P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of June 4th

[TiffanyM]

Well, glad you came back yellowkitter! You go girl!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by hikergurl

Dawn, what is your P4 plan? That's where I'm struggling the most, and thus I'm doing R4 to lose the same pounds I lost in R3

I struggle in every P4 I do too This time I am doing JUDDD. I figure I have half the diet down pat! I mean I can eat 500 calories in my sleep, or at least figure out how to eat only 500 calories in a day I have been doing it since last week (I have fallen off of P2 ) and am down 4.2 lbs in a week I stick like glue to the 500 calories on my DDs and on the alternate days I eat what I want. I have lost weight every single day this week. As much as I would if I were doing P2. I am happy I think I will pick P2 back up next week, but right now I am pleased. I keep thinking the losses will stop, but they haven't. I mean why switch now when I am eating carbs this week and losing? I have had cake (today I was at a wedding and there was ice cream cake--it was the best thing ever!!) and brownies and they were not low carb. And I am losing weight My dream diet Ok I will shut up now But that is my plan. Here is the forum JUDDD - Low Carb Friends Poke around over there and see how many hcgers are being converted.

[Desma]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

I struggle in every P4 I do too This time I am doing JUDDD. I figure I have half the diet down pat! I mean I can eat 500 calories in my sleep, or at least figure out how to eat only 500 calories in a day I have been doing it since last week (I have fallen off of P2 ) and am down 4.2 lbs in a week I stick like glue to the 500 calories on my DDs and on the alternate days I eat what I want. I have lost weight every single day this week. As much as I would if I were doing P2. I am happy I think I will pick P2 back up next week, but right now I am pleased. I keep thinking the losses will stop, but they haven't. I mean why switch now when I am eating carbs this week and losing? I have had cake (today I was at a wedding and there was ice cream cake--it was the best thing ever!!) and brownies and they were not low carb. And I am losing weight My dream diet Ok I will shut up now But that is my plan. Here is the forum JUDDD - Low Carb Friends Poke around over there and see how many hcgers are being converted.

Just so I'm clear....you eat 500 calories a few days a week and more than 500 calories the other days and you lost weight? And your not taking HCG?

WOW!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Desma

Just so I'm clear....you eat 500 calories a few days a week and more than 500 calories the other days and you lost weight? And your not taking HCG?

WOW!

Yes, no hcg this week!!! I am very happy right now. I don't expect that these losses will continue, but I am enjoying them while they are coming I expect that they will start to taper off. I highly suggest this way to maintain your weight loss once done with hcg. It is my going to be what I am going on after my next round to maintain my losses. After having gotten to my goal weight I have been unable to maintain that weight. But with trying the JUDDD just this week, I know I can maintain my goal weight. I have been out to eat at a buffet restaurant this week and ate dessert. It was fabulous. I had real chocolate brownies this week and lost the very next day. This is what I have wanted to do forever--eat what I want and lose, or just maintain---and never thought it would work. But then again I had never heard of JUDDD. Now I am glad I have tried it. I know it will work for me.

[Desma]

I'm already sick of eating like this! It's hard trying to add in enough veggies once you count your 100g of protein and your fruit. I feel like I'm eating heads of lettuce and boxes of cucumbers.....ugh! I can't wait for this to be over. And the bad part is......I don't want to eat desserts, I just more flavor and more protein! Help!

[crstrom]

Today is VLCD11 for me and I am doing well. Down 9.6lbs in 10 days. My menu today:

apple
chicken and cucumbers
a few almonds
chicken
2 cups air popped popcorn

I went shopping from 3pm to 9pm and just wasn't hungry when I got home so I had my chicken portion and that was it. I did a minor cheat with a few almonds. I have eaten them before and still lost. I'm sort of afraid that my body won't stabilize with nuts in P3 if I don't have them at all in P2... kind of like the making sure to do your grissini and milk portions. I'm probably just crazy.

DH is also doing HCG right now. This is his 3rd round. He started this round at over 300lbs and has lost 28lbs in 11 days. He had a terrible day at work today. While I was gone shopping he let his stress get the best of him and he ate an ENTIRE pack of Chips Ahoy cookies!!! Woah, Nelly! That outta show up nicely on the scale tomorrow. Yowza!

[RedsSkinnyJeans]

Morning all.
It's my last VLCD and I'm up .8 today. (After being up yesterday too...).
I ran out of veggies, so I ended up with a bit of chicken and had two protein shakes yesterday, (using organic soy milk). Gain could be due to Fish Oil that I HAVE to take right now also. (health before weight loss).

Oh well. Take it in stride.
I still look damn good in my skinny jeans!

Dawn!

I'm wondering. Do you think that doing JUDD on P3 is dangerous? I know that P3 is the most critical of the phases. And I'm usually a strict protocol girl. (Hey, it works!). I'm pretty good at eating to appetite, (but now I'm on pain pills.....grrrrrreeaaat), but you've never heard of anyone doing P3 on JUDD, have you?

And you really like JUDD better than Fat Fast? Have you done that as well?

Inquiring minds want to know. :-)

Have a great Sunday everyone.

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by RedsSkinnyJeans

Morning all.
It's my last VLCD and I'm up .8 today. (After being up yesterday too...).
I ran out of veggies, so I ended up with a bit of chicken and had two protein shakes yesterday, (using organic soy milk). Gain could be due to Fish Oil that I HAVE to take right now also. (health before weight loss).

Oh well. Take it in stride.
I still look damn good in my skinny jeans!

Dawn!

I'm wondering. Do you think that doing JUDD on P3 is dangerous? I know that P3 is the most critical of the phases. And I'm usually a strict protocol girl. (Hey, it works!). I'm pretty good at eating to appetite, (but now I'm on pain pills.....grrrrrreeaaat), but you've never heard of anyone doing P3 on JUDD, have you?


And you really like JUDD better than Fat Fast? Have you done that as well?

Inquiring minds want to know. :-)

Have a great Sunday everyone.

I don't know much about how it may be dangerous...but I did try it on P3...didn't like it. I had a hard time getting my calories high enough on UD's, and gained...not a lot...but I was over LDW by 2.2...so I did a Steak CD. Then on to normal P3 again. I read later on that it takes a few weeks for the JUDDD diet to "kick-in", which kinda seems counter-productive since P3 is technically 3 weeks. BUT...when I reach goal...I definately think this will be the way to go!

HTH~Angela in TX

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by RedsSkinnyJeans

Morning all.
It's my last VLCD and I'm up .8 today. (After being up yesterday too...).
I ran out of veggies, so I ended up with a bit of chicken and had two protein shakes yesterday, (using organic soy milk). Gain could be due to Fish Oil that I HAVE to take right now also. (health before weight loss).

Oh well. Take it in stride.
I still look damn good in my skinny jeans!

Dawn!

I'm wondering. Do you think that doing JUDD on P3 is dangerous? I know that P3 is the most critical of the phases. And I'm usually a strict protocol girl. (Hey, it works!). I'm pretty good at eating to appetite, (but now I'm on pain pills.....grrrrrreeaaat), but you've never heard of anyone doing P3 on JUDD, have you?

And you really like JUDD better than Fat Fast? Have you done that as well?

Inquiring minds want to know. :-)

Have a great Sunday everyone.

I do NOT advise anyone to do JUDDD during P3. I suggest to everyone on that JUDDD forum to do a proper P3--the way Dr Simeon's wrote it. I did NOT do a proper P2, so I thought why not just do JUDDD? I barely got in one P2 cheat free day my last round, so I jumped into JUDDD right away. BUT I caution everyone to FOLLOW PROTOCOL and be well into the 3 weeks of P3 before starting JUDDD. I have done a sort of version of a fat fast, more of a high fat day or 2 to get weight down in P3/P4 and JUDDD is better---ya get to eat on JUDDD!!! And I have been eating some amazingly good food!! I eat what I want on my Up Days. No restrictions and that is key for me. I have been so deprived on the hcg plan that I am tired of dieting. This doesn't feel like a diet, because I can eat what I want every other day. And that, for me, includes carbs.

My next round I am going to do (planning for one next week) I will be doing P3 the way that Dr Simeons' says to do it, for 3 weeks. I won't start JUDDD til I am onto P4. I want my weight set in stone!!! And I am hoping to get to goal next round. That is the plan anyway! JUDDD is going to be my maintenance plan, I had always intended on losing with hcg and maintaining on JUDDD. Right now I am trying to stick to every other day at 500 calories in getting ready for every day at 500 next week. You know, get my head in the game.

Good for you on eating to appetite. That has been my problem all along. I love food and cram it in as if they would never make chocolate again I go to a buffet and it is a true free for all. I eat so much never thinking "am I full"? Just think "Oh, I have to try that one and that one and that one". That is what "Weight Loss Apocolypse" is all about. Teaching you to eat ONLY when hungry and not stuffing yourself. You have half the battle already won

[crstrom]

I'm down 1lb today putting me at 10.6lbs in 11 days. DH is up 4.2lbs so far. I am making him read "Weight Loss Apocolypse" soon. I put it on his Kindle for him already.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by crstrom

I'm down 1lb today putting me at 10.6lbs in 11 days. DH is up 4.2lbs so far. I am making him read "Weight Loss Apocolypse" soon. I put it on his Kindle for him already.

You are doing well!! Great job

[dbunny]

No loss to report.. I broke down and had a glass of wine last night. Oops! But at least I didn't gain!

[Desma]

Originally Posted by crstrom

Today is VLCD11 for me and I am doing well. Down 9.6lbs in 10 days. My menu today:

apple
chicken and cucumbers
a few almonds
chicken
2 cups air popped popcorn

Is popcorn allowed on P2?

[Desma]

Originally Posted by TiffanyM

Don't get discouraged Desma! It happens. Expect a big ol' woosh soon.

Tiffany M you was soooooo right!!!!!!

I woke up at 12 noon, this HCG is doing wonders for my rest, and got on the scale and.........WHOOSH!!!!!!!:jump joy: ............I went from 222.2 to 220.8!!!!!

I even checked twice and it was still the same!!!! YEAH!!!!!

[crstrom]

No, popcorn is not allowed on P2. It's rogue. I have it instead of my grissini sometimes.

BTW, congrats on the whoosh!!

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by Desma

Is popcorn allowed on P2?

No popcorn isn't a PH2 food. Some do PH2 rouge.(their own way...not on protocol)

[Berta48]

oops

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Berta48

oops

Welcome back Berta

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Welcome back Berta

[Gibby]

No loss or gain today, but that's ok. I don't expect to lose everyday - the body needs to adjust.

I have question....when we report our weight loss are we taking it from after loading or the day we started loading? Just curious.

Desma, you may want to check out the OWL diet. It's hcg, but allows 700 calories a day with more choices of vegetables and fruits and carbs.

[CaTriGirl]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

I remember you. Welcome back It is sooooo hard to do this for the second time....and the third and 4th time BTDT, so I understand where you are coming from. Good for you for sticking to it though. You are doing really well!!! 9.2 down is fantastic

I remember you too Dawn! So glad you are still here, well not that you are still looking to lose, but I Love reading your posts. I don't know how you do so many rounds. You are much stronger than me!

Originally Posted by Gibby

I agree. The first time was the best - excitement and hope and fast results. The mental challenges of starting again for the second, third, etc. time is the hardest.

So True!

Well this week has not been good. Not only is it hard mentally, but the WHOLE second week on P2, I only released 1.6 lbs. Last time, I released 3.8!

I don't know if my drops are working, I've also been starving and I loaded really well with a ton of fat! I bought my drops in Dec. from the same place I used last time, but I wonder if they expire. I'm mad because I bought 3 bottles.

I just placed an order for Intermountain drops so I hope they get here fast. I wanted to do an extended round, but not sure now. I'm hoping I get better results with Intermountain. Last time I did this it was SOOOO much better! I felt great, had energy, not too much hunger and much, much faster results.

[CaTriGirl]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

I struggle in every P4 I do too This time I am doing JUDDD. I figure I have half the diet down pat! I mean I can eat 500 calories in my sleep, or at least figure out how to eat only 500 calories in a day I have been doing it since last week (I have fallen off of P2 ) and am down 4.2 lbs in a week I stick like glue to the 500 calories on my DDs and on the alternate days I eat what I want. I have lost weight every single day this week. As much as I would if I were doing P2. I am happy I think I will pick P2 back up next week, but right now I am pleased. I keep thinking the losses will stop, but they haven't. I mean why switch now when I am eating carbs this week and losing? I have had cake (today I was at a wedding and there was ice cream cake--it was the best thing ever!!) and brownies and they were not low carb. And I am losing weight My dream diet Ok I will shut up now But that is my plan. Here is the forum JUDDD - Low Carb Friends Poke around over there and see how many hcgers are being converted.

OMG Dawn, that is awesome! I am going to have to check it out! Never heard of it.

[Desma]

Originally Posted by Gibby

No loss or gain today, but that's ok. I don't expect to lose everyday - the body needs to adjust.

I have question....when we report our weight loss are we taking it from after loading or the day we started loading? Just curious.

Desma, you may want to check out the OWL diet. It's hcg, but allows 700 calories a day with more choices of vegetables and fruits and carbs.

Thanks Gibby! Have you tried it before?

[Gibby]

Not totally. In the past I've added a few more veggies like broccolli. I'm thinking about doing it in round 2. This round has been hard - boring and I've been hungry, but I'm going to stick it out!

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by Gibby

No loss or gain today, but that's ok. I don't expect to lose everyday - the body needs to adjust.

I have question....when we report our weight loss are we taking it from after loading or the day we started loading? Just curious.

Desma, you may want to check out the OWL diet. It's hcg, but allows 700 calories a day with more choices of vegetables and fruits and carbs.

Gibby
Is it just called the Owl diet? I tried looking it up and it came up with foods that an Owl eats
Can you post an address?

[vanna1970]

Originally Posted by Berta48

Gibby
Is it just called the Owl diet? I tried looking it up and it came up with foods that an Owl eats
Can you post an address?

Berta! You are lookin' good! Love your new picture!

And OWL stands for Ongoing Weight Loss. It is the second phase of the Atkin's diet.

[vanna1970]

Hey all!

I'm back on P2! I am loading today and tomorrow. I'm looking forward to getting back to it. I didn't do well on P3. I learned that I need to plan better for P3. While I'm in this second round of P2, I'm going to cook stuff for P3 and put it in the freezer.

I'm up five pounds, but most of that is from this past weekend. We went to my niece's wedding on the other side of the state. My daughter was the flower girl (my avatar picture is us at the reception). Needless to say, several days away from home and lots of bad eating can really pack on the pounds quickly. I'm not too worried about it though. It will come off fast!

So happy to be back to HCG! Looking forward to the losses again! And I hope by my September birthday to be a lot thinner than I am now!!

[soontobesexy'ntx]

Originally Posted by Berta48

Gibby
Is it just called the Owl diet? I tried looking it up and it came up with foods that an Owl eats
Can you post an address?

OWL diet -Omaha weight loss or OWL clinic
(I have the book, Like the food plan but he's really down on oral hHCG wants you to come to his clinic for injections) thinking of following his food plan for my second P2.

[Gibby]

Originally Posted by soontobesexy'ntx

OWL diet -Omaha weight loss or OWL clinic
(I have the book, Like the food plan but he's really down on oral hHCG wants you to come to his clinic for injections) thinking of following his food plan for my second P2.

Yep, soontobe, that's it! I have the book too. I ignore the injection slant. Since I am so heavy, I don't think the additional 200 calories and varied veggies are going to affect me much. I didn't want to mess around with round 1 - I wanted to do strict protocol - because for me, it is the most successful round.

Good news and bad news today. I'm down a pound, finally. But, I left my drops at home so I won't be able to dose until after 5:00 tonight! Bummer!

[vanna1970]

Oh! Guess there's more than one OWL diet! LOL!