Longtimer needs HELP ..exercise, P4 & weight gain?!?!?

Emi · 05-30-2012, 06:13 PM

I'm back for advice... I'm so frustrated

! Recap my journey first... 5 rounds, 75 lbs lost to goal ... maintained between all rounds w/effort but maintained. It's been months since resetting and eating P4 and I've decided to take up running... my 3rd week of couch to 5K .. I'm up 5 lbs since starting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My pants in the thighs & a$% are a smidge tighter.

Typically, if I'm up 1-2 lbs I eat extra clean and it comes right off.. if it's anymore than 2 lbs or if eating clean doesn't work I do a CD and it comes off.. this is the first time this has not worked!!!!

So.. what do you think!?!?!? I will add that I stopped my very last round short because I woke up one morning to my butt and girls being gone & what was left flabby.. I'm getting my butt back.. has the running turned this flab into muscle?!?!?!

I'm really frustrated & at a loss, please advise!

Emi · 05-31-2012, 03:59 AM

Bump... come on .. anyone, anyone!!!!

RedsSkinnyJeans · 05-31-2012, 05:01 AM

Yes. Muscle weighs MUCH more than fat. Everyone is different, but in my opinion toned and strong equals sexy. Enjoy your curvy, strong figure - who cares what the scale says? Take a good look at you rocking the skinny jeans :-)

C'Marie · 05-31-2012, 10:45 AM

I agree with Red, (as usual) but since muscle doesn't really "weigh" more than fat, a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscle, it is just more compact. BUT the process does create inflammation for awhile and can make you bloat up a bit until things settle down. What generally happens though is that you can be a higher weight on the scale but more compact in measurements, depending on how you personally gain muscle. Depends what your personal goals are. I wouldn't sacrifice toning and strength for scale weight.

You could ask Mini or Julie about it more. I'm not an exerciser by nature but when I do I notice increase in weight in P3/P4 fairly quickly. Stay super clean eating. Your toned body will look better!

Emi · 05-31-2012, 05:35 PM

Thanks Red & C'Marie ... Red.. I totally would rather have tone .. and C'Marie.. you hit the nail on the head about the bloat.. it was almost immediate!!!

Mini.. Julie.. are you out there?

C'Marie · 05-31-2012, 08:28 PM

Mini and Julie hang out on the rogue thread

dawnyama · 06-01-2012, 03:25 AM

I know that Gilded Lily is having trouble with this too. She added in P90X and has gone up at least 5 lbs. I wish my gains all came from exercise LOL. At least you know you are gaining for a good reason.

Emi · 06-02-2012, 05:54 AM

Dawn.. good to see you, glad to hear it's not just me!!!!

I was down a lb yesterday feeling a little better throughout the day, went running and boom.. I could feel the fluid retention in my stomach .. weird!!!!!!

Marie.. I'll repost w/a call to them!

RedsSkinnyJeans · 06-02-2012, 06:07 AM

I should have said that muscle weighs WAY more than fat PER CUBIC INCH. :-)

C'Marie · 06-02-2012, 08:54 PM

I hope you didn't take it as a criticism, Red! Your advice is perfect on this!

And like Dawn, I sure wish my gains, when they happen, were due to exercise!

minimonkey · 06-03-2012, 12:40 AM

Scale weight from exercise absolutely happens -- generally it is from the extra water needed for muscle repair, as C'Marie said. There also tends to be a temporary bulking up effect when a muscle is first worked hard -- it may appear that you are gaining a ton of muscle, but in reality, the muscle is just plumping up from the swelling. In time, they become a lot more compact.

As for the muscle vs. fat weight ... I don't have many cubic inches ... most of mine are more like blobs than cubes, lol!

RedsSkinnyJeans · 06-03-2012, 03:29 AM

Yep, that's why drinking a lot of water afterward helps. I believe there is also a supplement that helps - is it Creatine? I'm not sure.

Either way, I'd look at that as a TROPHY sister!!!
"That's right! Look! I WORKED it!!"

05-30-2012, 06:13 PM	#1
Emi Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 419 Gallery: Emi Stats: 197.3/135/135 WOE: HCG Simeon's Protocol Start Date: R5 1/2012	Longtimer needs HELP ..exercise, P4 & weight gain?!?!? I'm back for advice... I'm so frustrated ! Recap my journey first... 5 rounds, 75 lbs lost to goal ... maintained between all rounds w/effort but maintained. It's been months since resetting and eating P4 and I've decided to take up running... my 3rd week of couch to 5K .. I'm up 5 lbs since starting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My pants in the thighs & a$% are a smidge tighter. Typically, if I'm up 1-2 lbs I eat extra clean and it comes right off.. if it's anymore than 2 lbs or if eating clean doesn't work I do a CD and it comes off.. this is the first time this has not worked!!!! So.. what do you think!?!?!? I will add that I stopped my very last round short because I woke up one morning to my butt and girls being gone & what was left flabby.. I'm getting my butt back.. has the running turned this flab into muscle?!?!?! I'm really frustrated & at a loss, please advise!

05-31-2012, 10:45 AM	#4
C'Marie Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,047 Gallery: C'Marie Stats: 270/down 110-ish/ goal 147 WOE: hCG Rx shots/JUDDD maintain Start Date: 1/4/2010 Now R9 P2	I agree with Red, (as usual) but since muscle doesn't really "weigh" more than fat, a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscle, it is just more compact. BUT the process does create inflammation for awhile and can make you bloat up a bit until things settle down. What generally happens though is that you can be a higher weight on the scale but more compact in measurements, depending on how you personally gain muscle. Depends what your personal goals are. I wouldn't sacrifice toning and strength for scale weight. You could ask Mini or Julie about it more. I'm not an exerciser by nature but when I do I notice increase in weight in P3/P4 fairly quickly. Stay super clean eating. Your toned body will look better! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* HCG Rx to lose - JUDDD to maintain

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05-31-2012, 03:59 AM	#2
Emi Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 419 Gallery: Emi Stats: 197.3/135/135 WOE: HCG Simeon's Protocol Start Date: R5 1/2012	Bump... come on .. anyone, anyone!!!!

05-31-2012, 05:01 AM	#3
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	Yes. Muscle weighs MUCH more than fat. Everyone is different, but in my opinion toned and strong equals sexy. Enjoy your curvy, strong figure - who cares what the scale says? Take a good look at you rocking the skinny jeans :-)

05-31-2012, 05:35 PM	#5
Emi Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 419 Gallery: Emi Stats: 197.3/135/135 WOE: HCG Simeon's Protocol Start Date: R5 1/2012	Thanks Red & C'Marie ... Red.. I totally would rather have tone .. and C'Marie.. you hit the nail on the head about the bloat.. it was almost immediate!!! Mini.. Julie.. are you out there?

05-31-2012, 08:28 PM	#6
C'Marie Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,047 Gallery: C'Marie Stats: 270/down 110-ish/ goal 147 WOE: hCG Rx shots/JUDDD maintain Start Date: 1/4/2010 Now R9 P2	Mini and Julie hang out on the rogue thread

06-01-2012, 03:25 AM	#7
dawnyama Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 21,336 Gallery: dawnyama Stats: 154/???/115 5'4" WOE: Hhcg/Rwhatever P2 Start Date: 6/1/09	I know that Gilded Lily is having trouble with this too. She added in P90X and has gone up at least 5 lbs. I wish my gains all came from exercise LOL. At least you know you are gaining for a good reason.

06-02-2012, 05:54 AM	#8
Emi Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 419 Gallery: Emi Stats: 197.3/135/135 WOE: HCG Simeon's Protocol Start Date: R5 1/2012	Dawn.. good to see you, glad to hear it's not just me!!!! I was down a lb yesterday feeling a little better throughout the day, went running and boom.. I could feel the fluid retention in my stomach .. weird!!!!!! Marie.. I'll repost w/a call to them!

06-02-2012, 06:07 AM	#9
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	I should have said that muscle weighs WAY more than fat PER CUBIC INCH. :-)

06-02-2012, 08:54 PM	#10
C'Marie Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,047 Gallery: C'Marie Stats: 270/down 110-ish/ goal 147 WOE: hCG Rx shots/JUDDD maintain Start Date: 1/4/2010 Now R9 P2	I hope you didn't take it as a criticism, Red! Your advice is perfect on this! And like Dawn, I sure wish my gains, when they happen, were due to exercise!

06-03-2012, 12:40 AM	#11
minimonkey Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,029 Gallery: minimonkey Stats: 5'0" -- very small frame WOE: Clean eating, whole foods	Scale weight from exercise absolutely happens -- generally it is from the extra water needed for muscle repair, as C'Marie said. There also tends to be a temporary bulking up effect when a muscle is first worked hard -- it may appear that you are gaining a ton of muscle, but in reality, the muscle is just plumping up from the swelling. In time, they become a lot more compact. As for the muscle vs. fat weight ... I don't have many cubic inches ... most of mine are more like blobs than cubes, lol!

06-03-2012, 03:29 AM	#12
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	Yep, that's why drinking a lot of water afterward helps. I believe there is also a supplement that helps - is it Creatine? I'm not sure. Either way, I'd look at that as a TROPHY sister!!! "That's right! Look! I WORKED it!!"