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Old 05-09-2012, 07:44 AM   #1
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Gaining and losing the same 0.5lbs. Is this a plateau?

I'm on VLCD17 and for the last 4 days I've been gaining and losing the same half pound over and over again. I'm not sure if this is normal or if I'm doing something wrong.
I'm eating a very clean diet, no cheating whatsoever, no stevia, no coffee or tea, no Melba toast, no beef, and weighing my protein very carefully. I don't eat a breakfast and eat my first meal for lunch which is always 100g of baked chicken or shrimp, and a cucumber. Then I have an apple as a snack. For dinner I have a salad with 5 strawberries and 1/2 Tsp of vinegar and 100g of chicken, shrimp or crab.
I don't know what I could be doing wrong. I don't use lotions or non-allowed makeup, I drink tons of water (about 100oz a day). The only thing I can think of is I'm not getting 8 hours of sleep and the times I take the hHCG is not the same everyday. Should I change anything I'm doing? How long should I wait to do a correction day?
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:42 AM   #2
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No, no change is required. Just keep on keeping on!! Plateaus can last many days. If it goes on for 5+ days, I would do an apple day as is suggested in Dr Simeon's Pounds and Inches. But that is me. Many on here would suggest you plow right through a stall/plateau, but I am very impatient. I want to see weight loss, not a stall. The apple days work for me and I do them when the need arises. Good luck!
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:00 PM   #3
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Speaking from experience...keep it up! It will eventually move for you. I played w/ the same pound for 7/8 days...but it did come off. I had another week long stall after I cheated and ate ham instead of protocol meat...BIG mistake! I never did a CD, but was sooooo tempted. I average about 3 pounds loss each week...so overall I am happy with my last round P2...30 lbs. lost in 49 days...I would have never dreamed I would end up losing that much after seeing the stalls...but it added up to great overall losses.

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Old 05-10-2012, 03:21 AM   #4
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Angela--that is fantastic!! Wow, 30 pounds in 49 days!! Good for you!!! Those stalls are frustrating aren't they? Especially when you know you are doing everything right. I agree, your body will eventually get the point when you keep on trucking! You dig in your heels and it will cooperate.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:34 AM   #5
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I am beyond frustrated and so upset with this stall. I woke up today and weighed myself and again I've gained the same stupid 1/2lbs I almost cried seeing it. I'm on day 18 of VLCD and I was planning on doing a 40 day round but now I'm pretty sure I'm only going to go 23 days and stop and probably never do the HCG diet again. I was only moderately comfortable putting hormones in my body but I was under the impression that it would be worth the weight loss. Plus only eating 500 calprices seemed very low, but wanted to believe so I did. The way this is going now is just ridiculous. 5 days of gaining and losing the same 1/2lbs means that my weight loss average is really no better than it was on Atkins....which was MUCH easier to do than this diet. Plus after these 23 days I have to do P3 and P4 where I don't lose any weight...which if I add those 6 weeks to the 23 days of taking HCG my daily weight loss is just a joke compared to Atkins or even weight watchers. I don't know why I ever thought this was a good idea. I am seriously beyond frustrated and upset at this whole thing. I'm going to keep doing this till I hit day 23 and that's it. I can handle stalls on Atkins better since I'd actually be eating food. I'm just worried I messed up my body with all these hormons...I am so upset
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:16 AM   #6
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Then you should seriously try the apple day. I did them and they worked for me. I ate the apples as suggested in Dr Simeons' manuscript and lost quite well. I understand your frustration, I really do. It is very frustrating to see the same stupid number on the scale day after day, and that is why Dr S built the apple day into his plan. So it would quit playing mind games on you. You are doing well---keep it up! You are not messing up your body by taking the hormone hcg. You are actually fixing what is wrong--obesity. It works, it really does. Also, something to think about.....when you are NOT losing pounds you are losing inches. Even though you don't see movement on the scale good things are happening!! AND that comes with no muscle loss--what a bonus!!!

Best of luck sweetie.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:25 AM   #7
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Benny - Sorry this is so frustrating! Believe me, the comparison to Atkins/WW and the time involved has been made before!

Have you considered doing an apple day or a protein/mini-steak day to bust this stall? You are eligible after 5 days so I would encourage you to do it.

The other thing that you can try is adding a little more protein, veggies or fruit. Your calories look a little light to me, with seafood and chicken every day as well as only 5 strawberries and some of the really low calorie veggies. Sometimes not getting the 500 calories will tip you into starvation mode and you will stall. If you don't eat beef (wasn't sure if not eating it was an attempt to cut down calories or a regular thing for you), maybe try eggs, and have two whole ones instead of the 3 whites/1 yolk that is suggested? I eat chicken, fish and beef in the normal portions but I eat 150g of lettuce daily for lunch (which is a HUGE amount) and usually 200g of cabbage, bok choi, endive, or spinach, which are higher calorie. I also eat a large apple and 200g (7oz) of strawberries daily which is around 10 large strawberries.

There's no reason You CAN'T lose weight in P4, btw. It's P3 where you need to hold steady...

HTH some and gives you some ideas.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:34 AM   #8
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Today is day 22 VLCD For me and I have been the same weight for 8 days! I tried to wait out the stall but I'm going for the apples today. I was thinking the same thing as Bennymaker. If I'm not losing weight, I could've been enjoying some delicious low carb food and had the same results or better.

This is why I'm not giving up on Hcg:

This is my 2nd round so I know it works and even with the stall, I'm confident that I will average half lb a day.

Low carb does not reset my metabolism, but hcg does.

Even though there's nothing moving on the scale, I have gone down a size in my jeans. My 16's started sagging and now I'm a comfortable 14 with room to spare. I'm in regular clothes now! XL tops, but no more plus sizes.

I feel so good. Tons of energy and my blood pressure stays low.

I'm actually enjoying the food.

I'm trying not to be discouraged. We had company stay for a few days. I had to cook for them and sometimes they ate out. I could've eaten out with them if I were on low carb, but as it was, I cooked a lot and ate none it. I can't even give the food a taste test. But, I have too much incentive to continue hcg, so I just try not to be discouraged by what the scale says.

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Old 05-14-2012, 01:35 PM   #9
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Let us know how it goes!! I can never get in all my allowed apples for the apple day. Believe it or not.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:43 PM   #10
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I only manage to have 3 or 4 apples in the 24 hr period too.

UPDATE: okay, this totally sucks. Apple day had no effect. It's 10 days now with no movement on the scale, except for one day when I gained a lb!

I don't know what's going on but I was hungry on apple day and I usually don't get hungry. I'm wondering if my Rx hcg is from a bad batch or something. I think my body got used to the 500 calories and kicked in starvation mode so my body is getting along just fine on the 500 calories but not releasing any fat.

I say this because even without hcg any normal person would lose weight on a VLCD like I'm eating. Hcg is just to stave off hunger and to release stored fat so you don't lose essential muscle. Well it's not releasing anything from my body.

After losing my load weight I only netted 5 lbs loss in 25 days with no cheating. I'm really discouraged, although I feel great otherwise.

I planned on doing a 60-day round but I don't see any point in continuing. I need to mix up another vial of hcg if I continue so I think I will stop here and do the 6 weeks of maintenance and give it another go after that.

It just sucks.
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:51 PM   #11
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If you are doing the rx, can you test it with a pg test to make sure it's still good? Sorry!
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:11 PM   #12
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Thanks Shelby for your response.

I can't test it now because I used the last of that vial. I probably should check the next mixture when I start again. Aren't those kits expensive? Anyone know where I can get one cheap?
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Old 05-16-2012, 09:23 PM   #13
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I think a few people have mentioned that they can get them at the $1 store. Worth a try anyway.
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Old 05-20-2012, 02:41 AM   #14
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So I went to Walmart and spent about $20 for five clear blue pregnancy tests. I tried one and got an error message so I tried another; same thing. I used a third one trying the second recommended method and nothing showed up in the window at all. So, not only did I waste a lot of money on the tests and much of my Rxhcg, but it's still inconclusive. I'm planning to start VLCD again tomorrow but I don't want to have the same problem again. I'm worried that my hcg isn't any good.

I was so discouraged and so I quit my round after 26 days. Planning to shake things up a bit and then start right back up, I reasoned that I could eat whatever I wanted to this past weekend. Needless to say, I gained quite a bit and it wasn't really worth it.

I'm even more discouraged now and angry with myself. I should've just eaten low carb until I restart VLCD. now that I've messed up its easy to say what I should have done. Oh well, what's done is done.

I'll be taking my injection in the am. Wish me luck on this new round.
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:41 AM   #15
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Good luck Felina!! I know this is hard. I used to think it was sooo easy. But that was when my round was easy LOL. It is hard--very hard to do this. I wish you a much easier round. I hope your hcg is better too!! I don't use Rx so have no comment on that, but certainly hope it goes better for you this time around.
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:45 PM   #16
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I thought I'd drop in here and give you guys an update.

After restarting rxhcg i lost the weight I gained during my "interruption". When I got to the weight that I was stuck at for 10 days, I got stuck again. I browsed through Pounds and Inches again looking for some answers. I found the answer I was looking for so now I realize there was nothing wrong with the hcg or anything that I did on the protocol.

I knew about getting stuck for a few days at a previous setpoint but he also says that if you come to a setpoint that you had previously been at for about 10 years or more, you could get stuck at that weight for 10 days - 2 weeks!

I don't know if I was stuck at 172 for 10 years, but I know I was stuck there for many years. This time I was stuck at 175 and I was totally expecting to get stuck at 172 when I got there, but not 175. I figured well, it's only three pounds so maybe that's close enough and that's why I'm stuck. Then, after reading what Pounds & Inches said about the long plateau, I remembered that the scale I had back then was 3 lbs off so I really was 175, not 172!

That's amazing. Everything is working exactly to the textbook. So, I should've just stuck it out instead of letting my discouragement get the better of me. But all is good now. Since I restarted, I only got stuck at the 175 for two days and then the scale started moving down again. Yay!!

So including my 5 day interruption, my average loss for the total 37-day round so far is a little under half lb a day. Not bad. I'm planning on sticking it out another 18 days. We'll have to see how that goes.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:27 AM   #17
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I'm so glad you finally moved past it! Stalls do usually work themselves out eventually, but it can be so discouraging because you don't know when it will happen and you don't have much control over it.

I have to say that 175 was a set point for me as well - I got to 175 on my own almost 3 years ago and stayed at 175 for forever, no matter what I did. When I started hCG I was actually 187 because I was frustrated with my lack of progression and was eating lots of terrible things. I got back to 175 and was stuck there for almost a week! Apple day didn't do much, as I lost a pound and gained it back the next day. But I did break through it And so did you!
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:39 PM   #18
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Cocoapeanut,
it helps to know that there are others here who feel my pain. All is well now. I hope I can get to the 160's like you. It takes patience, but I just feel so great with the changes from my weight loss. I feel like I'm getting to be a normal person again!
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Oh I have had some crazy stalls, too, often at previous set points or around the time my period is due. Anywhere from 5 days to two weeks! Apple days helped a bit but didn't fully resolve them. Only time and consistency did, and I have been better for doing it. If I'd given up on my first long stall on hCG still be 187 pounds.

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