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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 367
Gallery: IThinkICan
Stats: 218/142-144/145
WOE: HCG-R5P4 JUDDD
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My JUDDD Through P3 Experiment
Whew! Finally hit P3... glad I did. I couldn't do much more of P2 without seeing more of a change on the scale. I did 48 days of P2 and lost just over 19 lbs. It was the last three weeks that I only saw 1-point-something pound losses per week. I did some reading on JUDDD (alternating up days and down days for weight loss), and saw many HCG-ers had gone that route after doing several rounds of HCG, being successful with adding in normal foods after a while, with no need to count carbs even though they'd thought they'd be doing that forever (that's me - totally carb-conscious). Although I had two pounds left to goal, my JUDDD research made me think I could lose those pounds at some point in the future without another HCG round.
So I'm blending JUDDD with P3, though trying mostly to just somewhat stabilize/maintain for these next three weeks - still keeping Simeons' "no sugar, no starch" rule, which is helpful for a start on JUDDD anyway. I'm aiming to have 500-600 calories on my down days (DDs) and 1700-1800 on my up days (UDs). I may adjust my calories eventually if I need to to get those few extra pounds off. Hey, if things actually go really well, I'll just see where the scale leads - I'm not going to complain if it wants to go lower than my goal! So this is just a see-what-happens kind of journal for me. I did P2 with homeopathic drops and traditionally I end with 72 hours of VLC-ing (though some only do 48 hours after a round with hhcg). So the third day was yesterday, which I used as my first DD for JUDDD. But dinner was after my 72nd hour, so I went ahead and added some fat then. 4/20 DD1: Breakfast - none Lunch - shrimp, P2 cocktail sauce (79 cal) Dinner - Low carb pizza, salad with parmesan and Italian dressing (estimated 329 cal) Dessert - Low carb strawberry shake (144 cal) TOTAL: 552 calories 4/21 UD1: Breakfast (YES PLEASE!) - 2 sausage links; 2 eggs scrambled with cheese and butter; a sliver of oopsie cake with butter, and cinnamon and stevia sprinkled on top (394 cal) Lunch - Ruby Tuesday's bunless classic cheeseburger, grilled zucchini, roasted spaghetti squash (estimated 903 cal) Dinner - Spaghetti Squash Casserole, salad with shredded cheddar and ranch dressing (estimated 395 calories) Snack - Fruit Salad Oopsie Cake Parfait (estimated 152 cal) TOTAL: 1844 calories (...a little over my predetermined UD range, but some of that calorie counting was still estimated, and hopefully estimated a little high.) My LDW was 147.5. (I was 147.0 one full week before and never got back down to that when I finally decided to stop drops.) Miraculously the scale dropped the morning of that third day after drops/first DD to 146.4. And this morning, the morning of my first UD, I was still 146.4. (My eventual goal is 145.) After all I ate today, I'm sure the scale should be up tomorrow. But from other JUDDDers, I've read that you can expect your weight to be like a ball bouncing down the stairs. In my case, I only need very shallow steps on my staircase, but nevertheless, I can expect to see the scale up tomorrow morning, but then down the following morning as long as I'm good about keeping tomorrow as a DD. We shall see... I will say I am rather full this evening... really enjoyed my food today... REALLY enjoyed it. I'm glad I've been doing so much online research and watching Food Network for inspiration on dishes. I mean, I prepared pizza and cake! All completely low carb and P3 friendly! (After 5 rounds, I should know what is P3 friendly.) I am a foodie - totally love it! Just trying to keep that side of me under control in a healthy way. ![]() |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: South Central Wisconsin
Posts: 614
Gallery: shirleychef
Stats: 235/154/140's
WOE: hCG for loss, JUDDD currently
Start Date: April 25, 2011
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Subscribing.... in hopes of you keeping us posted as to how JUDDD is working during phase 3 and beyond.
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Senior LCF Member
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Yes, me too. I'm very interested because I too thought of JUDDD for maintenance, though not actually for P3. Good luck! And congrats on your overall loss!
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Major LCF Poster!
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Me three!!!
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 124
Gallery: keepingcupsfull
Stats: 250/162/155
WOE: Homeopathic Hcg
Start Date: P2
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So happy you are sharing your journey with us. I too have considered juddding. What scares me the most is the up day eating. Not sure if I can stop eating once I start eating . The other fear is the mood the scale puts me in. I know it's just a number and no one but me knows it.
![]() Congrats to you on your success so far. P3 is hard for me at first because of the lack of structure of P2. Once I stabilize I enjoy it for about a week then I want to go back to P2 so I can see the scale move down again. The bouncing ball of judd is scary Do you have an exercise plan for juddding with P3? |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Lynnwood, WA
Posts: 136
Gallery: jessinwa
Stats: 256/190.8/120
WOE: HCG
Start Date: 7/11
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I'll join you! I'll be doing my last injection Wednesday and will do the Judd with you! Saturday and Sunday will be up days because I'll be camping, but then I plan 2 down days Monday and Tuesday, Some do 2 down and 1 up. What are planning on?
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Philly suburb
Posts: 510
Gallery: adelinesdream
Stats: 300/170/155
WOE: low carb;hcg
Start Date: August 8, 2008
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I'm subscribing too, looking to you to be the forerunner, as I have failed on too many p3's. This time I want to suceed!
load day 1 177.2 load day 2 180 vlcd day 1 179.6 vlcd day 2 175.8 vlcd day 3 173.4 vlcd day 4 170.6 vlcd day 5 170 vlcd day 6 170 vlcd day 7 169.8 vlcd day 8 169.2 vlcd day 9 168.4 vlcd day 10 168 vlcd day 11 168.2 vlcd day 12 167.2 |
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Very Gabby LCF Member!!!
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I juddd too....really like it! And looking forward to following your journal.
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My apologies if I'm overstepping with my input here. . Just thought I'd mention what they do on the juddd forum.Last edited by dazygyrl; 04-22-2012 at 09:37 AM.. |
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lavender and lace
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Oregon
Posts: 4,213
Gallery: Violet_Dream
Stats: 225.6/12.8/135 ~5'10"~
WOE: P2 hhcg
Start Date: 4/26/2013
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lavender and lace
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Oregon
Posts: 4,213
Gallery: Violet_Dream
Stats: 225.6/12.8/135 ~5'10"~
WOE: P2 hhcg
Start Date: 4/26/2013
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 367
Gallery: IThinkICan
Stats: 218/142-144/145
WOE: HCG-R5P4 JUDDD
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![]() I don't have an exercise plan exactly... just that I am walking more, and not afraid to get on the Wii Fit with the kids a little bit here and there. I was REALLY inactive on P2 because I was so tired all the time, so I'm just starting to get more normally active life right now. I do have two young boys, and I'm not ashamed to chase them around the playground a bit, do some climbing on jungle gyms... haven't done it while on P2 (except once, but briefly 'cause I got so tired so quickly). I just intend to do less sitting on the bench... more physically involved with playing with the kids. I'd like to get regular walks in eventually, but it gets trickier as we head into the hot Florida summer. I'm hoping to do more walking with the family to get to some nearby destinations instead of taking the car up the road a mile. We'll see. For now, just getting back into the norm. Quote:
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Awesome, Dazy! How long have you done it? In conjunction with any phases of HCG? |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 367
Gallery: IThinkICan
Stats: 218/142-144/145
WOE: HCG-R5P4 JUDDD
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Here's my update for today...
I woke up this morning to a whopping .2-lb gain after yesterday's Up Day. (Yes, that's sarcasm.) It was a lot less than what I expected - that's for sure! I actually ate out in a restaurant! And had a fruit and cake parfait last night! But it's probably because I'm so well adjusted to the "no sugar, no starch" lifestyle. I'm curious to see when (or if) my weight ball starts to bounce a little more out of control... So here's today's menu: 4/22 - DD2: Breakfast - none Lunch - roasted turkey breast, celery & onions, zucchini with a smidgen of cheese (estimated 248 cal) Dinner - big heap of cabbage with lean ground beef, tomato paste, parmesan cheese, and Italian seasonings (estimated 205 cal) Dessert - exploded apple (cooked a little too long on the stove top ), dusted with cinnamon and stevia (80 cal)TOTAL: 533 calories It feels so good to eat turkey instead of chicken... and to mix vegetables all over the place! Doing 48 days of P2 can give you such a greater appreciation for P3... even on a day that you're keeping your total calorie intake similar to P2 days! |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 367
Gallery: IThinkICan
Stats: 218/142-144/145
WOE: HCG-R5P4 JUDDD
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Very Gabby LCF Member!!!
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yes..i have done it in conjunction with hhcg. i have attempted to do a couple rounds
in the last few months, but could never get more than 10 days into it. just couldn't keep my head in it so went right back into juddd. |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Lynnwood, WA
Posts: 136
Gallery: jessinwa
Stats: 256/190.8/120
WOE: HCG
Start Date: 7/11
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Does anyone use the down day and do a steak correction type of day? |
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Very Gabby LCF Member!!!
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you can do a DD however you like as long as the cals are in your DD range. that's the nice thing with juddd....you choose whatever woe (LC, HC, paleo, etc...) you like. all juddd cares about is the cals.
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 367
Gallery: IThinkICan
Stats: 218/142-144/145
WOE: HCG-R5P4 JUDDD
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Here's today's report...
After yesterday's DD, the scale... didn't budge. Sorry for the lack of excitement. Hmmm... where's my JUDDD bouncing ball? Perhaps doing this immediately following HCG eliminates the bouncing ball effect on the scale... at least at first? Well it's a theory... yet to be more thoroughly tested. The cool thing is my 146.6 is still .9 below LDW, and that makes me happy. ![]() So here's today's menu... 4/23 - UD2: Breakfast - leftover low carb pizza (285 cal) Lunch - leftover low carb pizza (285 cal) Afternoon snack - apple with peanut butter (280 cal) *PB isn't really P3 food, but I used it in past P3s with no issues, so I just consider that my rogue-ish P3 food. Dinner - turkey, zucchini, loaded cauliflower (421 cal) Dessert - Strawberry (or mixed fruit) Oopsie Cake... with lots of whipped cream (435 cal) TOTAL: 1706 calories I must say it was easy to just reheat my low carb pizza for two meals. It had to be used up and hubby didn't care to have it for another meal, so I just ate it today while he had both breakfast and lunch business appointments. My kids had their real pizza for lunch, so it was nice to eat similarly to them. I'm really looking forward to that cake tonight... as long as someone else doesn't eat it all first. Had a little incident last night with my exploded cinnamon apple... I'd prepared a bunch while I was the only one in the house still on P2, but since it was just me eating them, it looked like they were sitting in the fridge extra long. I was totally looking forward to the last one finally last night, but didn't get to it fast enough! I was digging all over the fridge, getting more and more nervous every time I looked elsewhere... finally discovered my mom took it! And only ten minutes earlier! She didn't even ask! I cored them, peeled them, cooked them, packaged them up in the fridge, and even gave her all the juice off of them (because I know that's her favorite part of cooking apples). But she just took it... the last one. My apple. But she's my mom... so I shoudln't get mad. I will say I was totally understanding Ross in Friends with his rage that resulted from someone else eating his sandwich. Inside, that was so me last night! Well, I finally nuked an apple in the microwave... and it turned out fine... so much easier to prepare too! ![]() Just so you know, I'm not totally mean... I will offer to prepare a piece of cake for my mom tonight too... |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 367
Gallery: IThinkICan
Stats: 218/142-144/145
WOE: HCG-R5P4 JUDDD
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Seriously, dessert to look forward to at the end of each night makes daily eating so much easier! I so enjoyed that oopsie cake last night! I added berries and a few slices of kiwi, put some banana extract in some of the whipped cream... a wonderful fruit salad cake!
And even though I felt like I was practically gorging yesterday, I was only up .2 this morning to 146.8. Here's today's menu... 4/24 DD3: Breakfast: none Lunch: 2 egg whites scrambled with spinach, 1 strip of crumbled bacon, and 1 laughing cow cheese wedge (123 cal) Snack: Apple, 1 laughing cow cheese wedge (115 cal) Dinner: Cabbage with ground beef (or turkey?) (185-205 cal) Dessert: Nuked apple (80 cal) TOTAL: 503-523 calories |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: The frozen north
Posts: 317
Gallery: circusgirl
Stats: 219/185/140
WOE: primal/paleo-currently HCG
Start Date: August 1999 primal, HCG in 2010
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subbing as I'm on hHCG now and planning to come off and do JUDDD for p3. Thanks for putting this out there!
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Blabbermouth!!!
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Sunny AZ
Posts: 7,109
Gallery: julieboolie
Stats: 272/147.6/140something Size 24/4-6-8/4-6 :)
WOE: one day at a time!! LC!
Start Date: July 14, 2003 - every day!!
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I hope this goes well for you!! Excited to see your experiment!! I tried JUDDD last year, but was not prepared to really do the DD's right. I was too indulgent on the UD's and ended up gaining in the 3 week trial I did. I am impressed so far and am rooting you on!!! You can do it!!!
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Big Yapper!!!!
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Marking my spot I will be done P2 on Sunday and really don't want to gain it back again, my last P3 was a complete failure so I had to do another P2 to get back to ldw which is still 2 pounds away.
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 367
Gallery: IThinkICan
Stats: 218/142-144/145
WOE: HCG-R5P4 JUDDD
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Welcome! If you do try it too, I'd like to know how it goes! P3 is really important... that's why I'm really trying to stick tight to this routine. Just stick with a plan, and if something doesn't work - correction day right away! So far, I haven't even had to give that a thought in this P3 as I've been staying below LDW... never done that before! I used to maybe go below LDW for a day or two but eventually back to 1-2 lbs above LDW where I'd constantly be wondering if the next day would be a correction day. Good luck, Cindy! Last edited by IThinkICan; 04-26-2012 at 09:15 AM.. |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 367
Gallery: IThinkICan
Stats: 218/142-144/145
WOE: HCG-R5P4 JUDDD
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4/25 - UD3
Weight = ??? Breakfast - small sausage and cheese omelet with side of cabbage and a little reduced sugar ketchup (245 cal) Lunch -homemade buffalo wings, side salad with bacon, cheese, and ranch dressing (689 cal) Dinner - Mexican seasoned ground beef with cabbage, salsa, and sour cream (276 cal) Dessert - part of an apple with peanut butter and a pumpkin protein shake (538 cal) TOTAL - 1748 calories I also snuck in a few mixed nuts last night... didn't measure or add to total... so my actual total should be a smidgen higher. 4/26 - DD4 Weight = 146.6 (down .2 from 2 days ago) Lunch - Beef bologna and lettuce rollups with mustard (158 cal) I know, luncheon meat like this probably isn't the best choice for P3 - 2 g carbs in this serving, but I'll take my chances. Dinner - turkey and cauliflower (262 cal) Dessert - apple (90 cal?) TOTAL - 510 calories I'm finding this quite odd... expecting a bouncing ball effect on my weight yet oddly maintaining between 146.4-146.8 (LDW: 147.5) after my whole first week of P3. Also, my TOM just started yesterday... so where's my 1-2 lbs of weight gain from that water retention? I've never actually stabilized so well before. I wonder if I'll see a drop after my TOM or if I'll just keep maintaining. ![]() |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: The frozen north
Posts: 317
Gallery: circusgirl
Stats: 219/185/140
WOE: primal/paleo-currently HCG
Start Date: August 1999 primal, HCG in 2010
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wow, that's awesome!
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Big Yapper!!!!
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 367
Gallery: IThinkICan
Stats: 218/142-144/145
WOE: HCG-R5P4 JUDDD
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