~~Rogue/Alternative HCG/hHCG plans for week of April 16, 2012~~
 

Happy Week, everyone!! Don't forget the tax-man tomorrow!!

Well, here's my tale of woe and caution: Do not eat an entire jar of dill pickles. Hurts the tum, and gives you a 1.2lb. gain.

Nothing else to do but jump right back into my plan.

Oh lynne, there are almost no calories and carbs in dill pickles, that's all salt/water weight! Drink lots of water and it will be gone by Wed. :)

Cheryl, I didn't know you had decided against the job after all. I do think that's wise, with all you have on your plate right now.

And you know the eating thing is because of the stress of moving and all that entails - don't beat yourself up too much about it. :console: Moving is a huuuuge job and you're doing it all yourself! That's strong!

Say to yourself what you would say to any one of the rest of us! You're doing something big and you need to be kind to yourself! :hugs:

Cheryl, good luck and good vibrations your way. it will all work itself out. Rome was not built in one day.

Lynne - I agree - sodium is the culprit on the pickles.

As for me, I did not lose yesterday after my binge of 800 caloires. I should not have had both a chicken breast and chili for supper. Today is a new day. I am doing what is best for my body and my weight loss.

I love myself, unconditionally. I am beautiful and everyone loves me. I chose life. I trust life. I am safe.

subbing in... I still come and read even if not usually posting.. :)

Sue, I love this: I am doing what is best for my body and my weight loss!!

Today is a beautiful day in So. Cal!! I exercised, and I'm pounding water!!

Good morning, all. Looks like several of us went a bit off the rails this weekend, so I'm so glad to know I'm in good company. I went facedown into regular sugary chocolate yesterday, so I'm also up a lb., which puts me 1/2 lbs. outside my window. So today will be recovery day. Three protein shakes and a (hopefully) small meal at lunch. I did this to myself, so am not dismayed. P3 works great if you work the plan. I didn't yesterday. :sad:

Cheryl -- I didn't want to say anything earlier but I'm so glad you decided not to take the job at the horse farm. Something else will come along you will be more peaceful with. As others have said, please be good to yourself as moving is very stressful.

Have a great day, folks.

Hi everyone! Thanks so much for the messages of concern.

Sorry I've been missing in action -- I had my final review for my MFA, and have been drowning in massive amounts of work. (It went well, I think)

I literally pulled three all nighter's in one week, and another a few days later -- and did days upon days of heavy physical labor in preparation for all of this.... yikes! Not surprisingly, I got hit with a bad cold as well (I asked for that one by getting so run down)and my poor body is taking a heck of a beating -- I'm battling crazy amounts of inflammation now, and trying to recover.

I took a p3 break for the duration of the work marathon, and just stayed off the scale -- I'm sure it was WAY up, because the amount of inflammation/water retention I experienced was completely insane.... it rivals the kind of swelling that Cathy gets from eating carbs, though mine was brought about by lack of sleep and massive over-taxing of my body.... I kept to a clean p3, though I think my calories were a bit on the high side overall.

Finally, I am back on p2 -- I did two fat fast days as a semi-load, and am back on my regular rogue p2 starting today. I'm staying off the scale until the inflammation calms down. I'm pushing the enzymes and anti-inflammatory supplements, and trying to rest as much as my schedule allows.

I feel terribly out of the loop with everyone -- and I understand that Paula hasn't checked in... I hope she is ok!!!!

I've missed you ladies :)

I did decide to delay my graduation until next year, and finish the written thesis and the collaborative project portion of things then -- with the amount of work necessary for my MFA exhibit, and the workload from teaching, I just couldn't do it all. It'll cost me a bit more in loans, but at the end of the day, the risk of bringing on a lyme relapse just wasn't worth it, and I could see myself heading that direction, quickly.

It'll still be a complete work marathon between now and mid-May, but at least this much I can accomplish as long as I push myself hard --- the full shebang turned out to be literally impossible with the amount of time available to get it all done.

Just had to put Julie's last post over on the new thread so we can comment. I hate when we switch to a new thread on Monday!!!!! Anyway, thanks for doing the new thread, Lynne. Sorry for my little tantrum.

Mini! Welcome back! Will now read all the posts here and comment.

It was pretty much the only choice I could come to. It would have been a terrible situation and I to open my eyes to the fact that she was going to be taking advantage of me.

The eating thing is definitely stress. But if I don't stop the madness, I'm going to be in BIG trouble. And I do mean BIG! I will make some smarter choices and eat things that I used to love and see if I can break this spell I'm under.

Pickles got you! Were they those adorable little baby gerkins? Those are my faves. Sorry you had that scale bump but it is all from the water/sodium.

I'm laughing at reading you describe 800 calories as a binge. :hyst: But I do hear you.

:hiya: Cathy! Where you been hiding?

We broke a heat record in CT today! 90 degrees but it wasn't humid so I didn't really notice it. It's heading back down rapidly but will still be warm and sunny.

Sorry, BC. Chocolate is one of my "thangs." Hope you can put it behind you and just cherish the memory. ;)

I know something better will come along when the time is right. Now is definitely not an opportune time!

Mini's home!! :jumpjoy: You've been busy but we knew that. When you disappeared we were all very concerned. Now if we can just find out if Paula is all right, we can breathe-easy.

I hope your inflammation resolves quickly! I guess that's going to be a tall-order when you are going through so much stress in your life. :hugs: :heart: I'm glad to hear you've been taking good care of yourself!

That's wonderful, Zoe! Right move, in my opinion. :high5: All good things will come in time.

Now, the way I copied and pasted Julie's post, I can't quote it to comment or it will be lost. So I'll have to just scroll up and down to get the deed done:

Was that a 3-minute run? You said it felt like a year. Are you working your way up to running?

Thank you for the encouragement. (Thanks to all who are lifting me up.) I am not getting much packing done. My allergies go off the charts when I disturb dusty things and I end up just going through tissues like they are going out of style. I may have to pack my nares to wear a mask just to get through some of this stuff. I have no time to be putting this stuff off anymore. I'm going to get the keys in just 8 days! Then I have 7 days when I can start to "trickle in." Just boxes and stuff for the attic at first, until after the carpets have been cleaned, then the big stuff can be brought in.

I'm in a very unique situation in that I don't have to be out of my house on a specific date. At least not as things stand right now, and it likely won't be any time soon. I've scheduled the electricity and water to be turned off (and trash pick up to be stopped) by the end of the first week of May. Other than that, I'll still have the keys and be able to access the house.

It gives me a false sense of security and keeps me from feeling the urgency of my situation. I keep thinking that I have plenty of time.

Julie, you have a totally different situation. And your MOM on top of all the rest. I can't believe she's still at home! Is she doing more for herself finally? I hope that when you said "paying her taxes" that you meant with her money.

God bless you as you prepare to move, Julie! And may you wake something up inside of me so I can know that this is really happening to me, too.

cheryl, I feel confident that something MUCH better will be coming your way, and with perfect timing. :) concentrate on your move for now, I say!

julie, 3 minute run? I need to start a running program, I'm going to do a 5k this summer. it'll be a walk-run (because it'll probably be stinking hot), but still. :)

lynne, your salt gain will be gone before you know it! water water water. :)

belfrybat, I went facedown into sugary chocolate on P2! boy, do I feel your pain. once in a blue moon, you just gotta.

and MINI!!! :hug: I was getting worried! I figured you had to be drowning in work, but still. glad you're ok! :)

MINI!!! So great to see you!! I've always been amazed at the amount of stuff you get done in your life. Sounds like you made a great decision with regard to graduation. Health first, always!!

Cheryl, I agree with the many comments of support you've already read - I'm sure something just perfect will come along. That job was just ridiculously hard, and it didn't really sound like they were going to look out for you in the least bit.

To all of us with dietary indiscretions, I raise my cup of herbal tea to us, here's to a better tomorrow!!

Thanks for the sweet welcome back, ladies!

It's nice to be back.

I'll try to check in more often from here on out -- I've just been crazy busy, and will be for the next few weeks. I'm stressed as always -- but more so than usual right now. I took it relatively easy today, and am hoping that helps resolve some of the body stuff I'm experiencing.

Cheryl -- sounds like you are going through some major stress right now -- I hope that eases up soon!!!

Virgin Fat Territory!!!! Whoo Hoo: 151.2!!!

Made it at around 540 calories yesterday. Here is how I made it through the second half of the day, which is my difficult part: When I left work, I was feeling weak and tired and like I could not make it to the store to buy stuff we needed. So, I decided I needed to eat well. I went to Outback and ordered the 6 oz. steak. I had a salad and I had Walden's Farms dressing in my purse to put on it. I picked out the croutons and most of the shredded cheese. With my steak I had the asparagas. I cut the steak in half and brought that home for later. While I was there I ordered some food to bring home for my daughter.

Later in the evening I felt satisfied, and like I had something good to eat and so I knew there was no reason to be hungry. I got hungry for a snack around 8 so I ate an orange.

Yes, it cost me about $25.00 to eat out, including what I paid to get some food for my daughter, but how much is my weight loss really worth? If I sabotage myself, it is going to cost me DAYS of being in P2. I will pay out the nose to get out of that. LOL. I have an long commute and a time/energy consuming job and I accept that. I have learned that sometimes, I have to eat supper before I can conquer that commute home or I will get too tired and cranky and set myself up to fail. After I ate, I was able to shop to get what we needed.

If you try an affirmation, like, "I am beautiful and everybody loves me" and some negative thoughts come up when you say that, jot those down and then turn them into positive affirmations. And remember, I do not have to earn love. I have a divine birthright to unconditional love.


I forgive feely. Forgiveness is a gift to myself. I forgive and I set myself free. I am at peace in my world and affairs.

Sue, great way to care for yourself!! I think I sometimes forget that I AM worth it, and my health is "job 1". Beautiful affirmations, too! Thank you so much for reminding us!!

Well, seems the "Pickle Incident" is behind me...but that means it took 2 days to release .6 lbs. More of a slow-down that I had anticipated. Is this the dreaded week 3??? Ack!! I'd like to get a solid 20 released during this round, however long that takes, then P3 for a bit, and get back to P2 so I have time to release the final 15 before 6/15.

Now, here's my dilemma of the week: we're going out to brunch with my in-laws on Sunday. What do I eat??? How do I manage? I'm thinking that I could make in a 1-meal day and have an egg white omelet with veggies and call it a day. Normally, I would think that would have way less than 500 calories, but with restaurant food you never know, so I'd rather err on the side of caution. The alternative would be to just have coffee and claim upset tummy or something and just do my regular day. That would be hard but not impossible.

I have to believe that! I just have to. Not believing it is taking me down a path of self-destruction. Again.

"Clink!" That's cute, Lynne. I'll toast to that one. ;)

Thanks, sweetie. The job truly was "ridiculous." No other way to describe it. Common sense prevailed and I hope they are now wishing they had at least come up a few dollars per hour in order to keep me. I guess when they are employing very young people, they can get away with that kind of stuff. Us older folks know how to speak up when we see something that concerns us. I would have gotten hurt there. It was only a matter of time.

Yup! You've missed a whole lot around here, Mini! You missed lots of drama. The end result is I sold the hot tub and will be kissing it goodbye very soon, was offered a job working with 12 horses, 7 or 8 mini's, two goats and two babies from the Premarin industry and was going to be working all alone for about 12 hours per week for a flat $100 bill. She was telling me it was $10/hour but my math skills are a little better than that.

Cut back on my volunteer time at the therapy farm, in preparation for having this job and now I have next to nothing in the way of equine experiences! Regained some weight and feel like absolute HELL. Supposed to be starting riding lessons on Fridays, beginning the first Friday in May. Need to use that (as well as my move) as MOTIVATION. I can't undo what's been done. Then again, yes I can! :D

:eek: YIPPEEEEE! :congrats: :yahoo: Jealous! WTG on the Outback Maneuver, too. They are not cheap but you did the right thing. And keeping the dressing in your purse is a brilliant move. ;)

How long is your commute? Love your affirmations. :hugs: Need to come up with a few for myself, FAST!

Are you already in week 3? :confused: How did that happen!? Time flies when it's someone else in P2! :hyst:

I hate challenges like you will be facing this Sunday. How long are you planning to do your round? If it's a really long one, maybe do a refeed meal? Just a thought. If you are looking forward to ending the round in a matter of days, I'd pull the "upset tummy" plan. Nobody can argue with that one. And inwardly you can just smile and hold on tight to your little secret. ;)

Glad the pickle juice is out of your system! You're due for a nice whoosh soon.

As for me, I got some big-time purging done in the kitchen. I have no energy to waste on cleaning dirty things that can be replaced for a few bucks. And I'm not going to donate or have a tag sale for something that might bring me less than a dollar. Ain't going there.

Have a splendid day, ladies. Barn duty in a couple of hours. Time to let it go and live with the choices I have made. I can't worry that I made the wrong ones. I made the best choices I could make at that moment and I can make new choices as time goes on. Today I choose to move forward into this load. No clue how rogue I'm going to be but this is loading day 2.

I'm not even going to attempt "personals". Just welcome back the formerly lost, cheer on those who are doing so well (can I be a bit jealous? :o), and encourage those of us who are futzing around and not quite into the program. I did such a good P2, and even with the disappointing last two weeks I stayed the course. I KNOW I need to do better on P3 so as not to blow the whole shebang, so what do I do? Well, I'm not telling! :lol: But let's just say not what I should.

I leave for my trip at 0-dark thirty tomorrow morning, so not sure I'll have time to get on here. Be back Saturday afternoon, hopefully at the same weight I leave. I really, really, need to find my "NO!" button for this trip or I'll be in big trouble and eat the city of Austin out of house and home. Beginning Saturday I plan on injecting and doing a mini-load in anticipation of beginning P2 on Monday.

Have a great day everyone, "see" you on Saturday.

Just stopping in to mark my spot and say hi. I'm right there with you with a huge gain over the weekend. The biggest weekend gain I've had in a long time. 6 pounds! YIKES! Normally I'll gain 1-3 pounds. Its all my fault. Lots of eating and drinking things that I shouldn't. And normally I drop it fast but I only dropped one pound of the gain so far.

Things are still crazy bad with the husband. The crazy part, he doesn't think there's an issue. The bad part, not only do I see the problems but I spent the weekend adding to the issues on hand. Enough said on that for now!

Mini and Cheryl, I think you made good choices!

Belfrybat, have a great trip!

Julie, have fun packing. I'm more than likely will be doing that soon myself. I'm having problems finding what I want though and until I make the big announcement that I'm leaving I havn't been in much of a hurry.

Hello ladies! Popping in real quick. Glad to see you back, Mini! :) And hugs to you Melanie.
Here's to a FABULOUS week for everyone! Spring fever is hitting me hard. Today I had a phone interview, so here's hoping I made it to the next round...I will have a chronic stomachache until I hear sometime next week.

P2ing it, if you call cleaning up the Easter candy P2 protocol. meh. No worries though, even though I ate lots of chocolate I was low(ish) cals...I gotta get my butt in gear! Only 5 more pounds!!!

:hyst: Sorry but I so feel you, girl! Have an excellent time in Austin and just keep it in perspective. If you are already "futzing" then a few more days won't matter all that much. Try to keep it together! If you fail, it's not the end of the world.

Have a safe and happy trip!

Wow. He doesn't know yet? Melanie, that is some heavy stuff. It's no wonder why you are having a scale gain. If anyone has a good reason to gain and fall off the wagon, it's you. I hope you stay here and keep us in the loop with you. Melanie, it sounds like you've got a strategy planned but please don't disappear. We will be so worried if you drop off the radar. :hugs:

Thank you for giving a hoot about mine and mini's choices! :cry: And thanks for the vote of confidence. "Happy packing" to all three of us! :eek:

Phone interview!!! :kicking: I hope it went really well and that it leads you to a job that makes you feel happy and fulfilled. And may God give you peace about it until you hear about the next round. :aprayer:

I had a good barn day today. Perfect "So Cal weather". Just me, my other favorite volunteer and the regular girl. Cleaned up 1.5 paddocks and grained a few of the horses after grooming two of them each. I'd never seen their hooves so clean! No mud around and I guess they didn't get worked too hard in the arena.

I noticed that the hired girl was totally watching me today. Not in a bad way but as if to evaluate me. Maybe cutting back to just one afternoon of volunteering in order to look for a job is making them take a "closer look" at me and what I can handle. No pun intended. ;) Whatever. I will just take it in and file it away, and trust God for the outcome. That's all any of us can do. :up:

Figured out with the spa guy which day he's coming for it so I know when it needs to be drained and the side yard has to be cleared, etc. He wants to come move it on Sunday so I'll drain it by Saturday and turn off the power to the tub before I drain it. I might use it one more time before that day comes. :) One for the road, so to speak.

It will be sort of sad but I'm so grateful that it sold and sold for a good price. It's truly a miracle. :notwrthy: It will make my life that much easier for the first few months in the duplex.

I'm tired! But it's a good tired. A horsey tired! :high5: I hope y'all have the best possible night tonight. Praying for all of our difficult times to smooth-out soon.

Down a pound! Woot! 15 more pounds to goal. HhCG seems to be working fine now that hormone patch is wearing off!!!!! I don't know who remembers my wretched beginnings of round 3 with the epic stall, but this time its working!!!!! Plus the hypnosis seems to be working, too because I made 2 days at just over 500 calories!!!!!! I was hungry the last 2 nights after supper, but the willpower won out and I went to bed without cheating. I need to go to bed earlier tonite. I'm starting with making my kid go to bed earlier because I can't settle till she is down for the night. She is 14 and has a bad cough.


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Got the ticker to work yay. The total of 70 is from starting to do calories, then Atkins then HCG about 1 year ago.

Good for you! I do remember reading about your woes with the hormone patch.

Yea You!! So glad things are rolling along more easily. I don't think I even knew you had a kid. Am I just losing it?

Up before the dawn today and couldn't get back to sleep. Got up and packed up all the spa chemicals and stuff. Guy will come for spa on Sunday. I'll be glad to have it gone but I need to write up another short contract to clear me of any liability of harm done to the spa from him and his buddies doing the moving of it, and his friend the electrician disconnecting the power from my house and removing the control box from the basement wall. Oy.

I also want it nailed down when I will receive the rest of the money. So far he's paid me two payments of $500 each with the understanding (in writing) that there is still $1K owed. I told him I'd split it over two months due to his financial constraints but I refuse to be burned again. When I lost my husband and moved from AZ, it was almost a complete financial loss. I sold my bedroom set and a car to a few co-workers and never got a single payment from either of them. Consequently, the woman never got the title to the car, either. (Bedroom set was a different woman.) Water over the dam.

But we do "live and learn" and I'm covering my ass this time. And I'm going to over-see the transport of the tub from my house to his. If anything goes wrong, I'm taking pics. He owes half of the money, so it's still my problem if he mucks this up. At least if he tries to hold me accountable for it not working once it's set up over there, I can prove that it was not my fault. He did use it the other night and nothing was wrong with it in any way. I heard him say to his wife, "This is kick @$$!" when I walked away to give them time to talk.

Enough of all that talk. Just happy thoughts here! It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!

Well, I'm down .2. I'm so glad to be down, but I sure wish I could eek out something significantly more than .2!! Sticking with it!!

.2 is something at least! :)

Me, I refuse to weigh. I fell face first into all kinds of indulgence starting the day after Easter (EASTER day I was GOOD! Go figure! =}) and it hasn't quite ended as of last night when I ate several of the biscuits I made for Husband.

What do you all do when you do this? Do you stay on the hhcg and just keep starting over each day (or intending to, anyway) or do you go off for several days and start over completely?

Good thinking on how to cover yourself about the hot tub, Cheryl. Even better than pictures might be a video of all the disconnecting the men do and the trip to the new owner's house and the connecting there, if you intend to stay for it.

Well, I'm no expert, but I think I gained a lot of weight doing this. Having the hhcg in your system and eating way more that you should is loading, so, unless you are super-clear that you're getting back onto some sort of protocol (rogue or otherwise) I think it would be best to not dose.

Okay thanks! Good to know.