~~P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of March 11,2012~~

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

The older I get, the more I love my cat.

[Gibby]

Originally Posted by BaileysGirl

I'm a CAT LOVER too!

I have 4 of the lovely critters!

[LoriSax]

MsHistory, how much do you use for your dose?? The other kind, I used 10 drops, 3 X's per day. This bottle, I am going to do the same, even though it says 1 ml, twice a day. The other bottle said 1ml, twice a day also.
Lori

[MsHistory]

Lori -
I just stuck with the 10 drops 3x's per day. I was only using that one for my midday drops (while at work) but I decided to switch to my bottle which DOES say hcg on the label. I think it's helped with hunger, but I really feel off this round. I can't concentrate, I'm horrifically moody, I have headaches behind my eyes... I'm not sure if this is related to my drops. I started rounds with the Platinum X30, but never finished. (I am ashamed!) The bottle is much bigger than the original though, so it's lasted quite a while! Let me know how it goes for you!

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by MsHistory

Reposting from last week's P2 thread ...

The Platinum drops sold now are for sure hcg-less (I have them in my fridge). I tried them anyway, and they seemed to work, although without the hcg, how do we know we're burning fat and not lean muscle?
I would assume the Walmart HCG is the same formula as the Platinum at this point, except Nigen is $20 and Platinum is around $70-80.
I'm still not sure what to think on all this... hopefully someone has some experience and can let us all know!

walmart hcg products contain NO hcg not even homeopathic levels

the numbers do not have to be specifically those on the intermountain bottle most common are 12x, 30x,60x dilutions but there must be some in them

[Gibby]

Howdy, Deb!

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by Gibby

Howdy, Deb!

Howdy Marilee!! how ya doing so far?? i haven't started back yet but i am cheering you on!!!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by LoriSax

Hi all, I am on my first week of P2. I am down 8 lbs. or so. I did not lose this fast the first time I did this. This is incredible.

Dawn, I opened teh HCG from GNC, but I had not used it. They did take it back. If they would not of, I would nhave probably thrown a fit. This HCG is making me a little fiesty!

Have a good night everyone...Lori

Which hcg are you using? Glad they took it back

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by kaylem

Can I jump in on this thread? I just loaded on Saturday and Sunday. Today is my first "VLCD."

Somehow I have undone all of the hard work that I put in last year. I had a couple of weeks in February where I pretty much nosedived into horrible eating, and I think that it really messed with me.

BUT, things have changed a bit since last year--it is HARD to find hhcg! I know we aren't supposed to promote any one brand/website over another, but any "generic" tips out there?

I think I just need to give up the idea of EVER being able eat sugar and simple starches. My body just can't process it well. Somehow, that is a hard lesson to learn and to remember. Sigh.



Humbly returning....kay

Oh, my Kay. This could have been written by me....every word of it all My body seems like it likes to toy with me. I nosedived into some (well Ok a lot ) of stuff I should NOT have and have started yet another round let's not talk about which round I am on Just know that you are not alone. Let's do this together. I am on here til I reach goal, hoping that it won't be that far off. I won't even list my stats until I am where I was when I left off last time (those stats to the left are from the last round I attempted). Anyhoo, here I am warts and all to shed the weight. I am so sad that the hhcg is getting so hard to get. I got a couple of extra bottles at the beginning of the year when I heard that my supplier was forced to reformulate my usual hhcg. She had to produce it without any hcg in it Hating on the FDA right now I have heard that Netrition has some good hcg.....just make sure the numbers are on the label. The ones with 12X,6X,30X are good!!!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by kj2010

Hi ladies, well I'm hoping I can talk about this and not get in trouble. I have been doing Rx HCG and I'm thinking about switching back to hhcg. I logged on to Netrition to get the stuff I tried before but it's discontinued. I'm just wondering if anyone can tell me what brands are working for them?? I knew I should have stocked up before. Oh well! lol
If all else fails, I can always pay double for the RX, but just wanted to save some money.
Thanks!

Welcome back sweetie Now it feels like old home week with everyone returning!!! I thought Netrition had the good stuff

to Gibby too!!!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by LoriSax

I have the new and improved Platinum, and it says on the bottle HCG Platinum X-30. It must be the right stuff? The guy told me that that stuff just flys off the shelves, and he constantly has to replace it. Ladies lose up to 30 lbs. with that. I know he was trying to sell it too me, but only an empty box was there, and beside it the stuff was full.
Lori

No, that is not the correct one. It says hormone free, correct? Hormone free is NOT good. You NEED the hormone for it to work.

[Gibby]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

Howdy Marilee!! how ya doing so far?? i haven't started back yet but i am cheering you on!!!

It's only day one of VLC so who knows? I didn't gain as much as I thought I would on the loading days - I actually felt sick to my stomach with all of the food I was eating and was so full I didn't eat as much as I had planned. I wasn't used to that much fat.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by MsHistory

Lori -
I just stuck with the 10 drops 3x's per day. I was only using that one for my midday drops (while at work) but I decided to switch to my bottle which DOES say hcg on the label. I think it's helped with hunger, but I really feel off this round. I can't concentrate, I'm horrifically moody, I have headaches behind my eyes... I'm not sure if this is related to my drops. I started rounds with the Platinum X30, but never finished. (I am ashamed!) The bottle is much bigger than the original though, so it's lasted quite a while! Let me know how it goes for you!

If your bottle clearly states on the label "Hormone free" then there is no hcg in them. Some bottles boldly state that and are proud of the fact that there is no hormone in them, but everyone buying them doesn't understand that it won't work unless you have the hcg in it Very confusing indeed!!!

[LoriSax]

The other stuff I had, the NioGen, said hormone free on it, but the Platinum does not. it is a blue bottle, and it is hard to read the stuff on it. The other Platinum worked fine for me, hpefully this does too.
Lori

Well, I just looked the Platinum up on the internet, and it is hormone free. So, I still have the wrong stuff, but hopefully it still works for weightloss. In my mind, I am just going to pretend I don't know!

[kaylem]

HI DAWN!! It's so nice to see your face--and lots of others, too! I'm sorry to hear that you have had to deal with the same demons as I have. I'm totally with you this round. LET'S OWN IT! Let's do it right and get control of the food monster once and for all!

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Oh, my Kay. This could have been written by me....every word of it all My body seems like it likes to toy with me. I nosedived into some (well Ok a lot ) of stuff I should NOT have and have started yet another round let's not talk about which round I am on Just know that you are not alone. Let's do this together. I am on here til I reach goal, hoping that it won't be that far off. I won't even list my stats until I am where I was when I left off last time (those stats to the left are from the last round I attempted). Anyhoo, here I am warts and all to shed the weight. I am so sad that the hhcg is getting so hard to get. I got a couple of extra bottles at the beginning of the year when I heard that my supplier was forced to reformulate my usual hhcg. She had to produce it without any hcg in it Hating on the FDA right now I have heard that Netrition has some good hcg.....just make sure the numbers are on the label. The ones with 12X,6X,30X are good!!!

[BaileysGirl]

Originally Posted by Mommytwingirls

How do you know how much you get or what your serving is?

I never really measured it. I would normally eat maybe 1 or 2 cups of it per meal.

Morning Ladies!
Day 2 and down 2 pounds...I'm actually going to enter my food into ****** today to see how many calories I ate yesterday. I did mix about 4 bites of steak w/ my tilapia last night. Am wondering if this is why I only lost 2 pounds. Guess I was hoping for a bigger # on Day 2!

[Doing It Right]

Natasha- 2 lbs is great! Your body's just getting back in the swing of losing!

I'm down 1.2 today. Weighed exactly 123, Today is VLCD36 for a total of -30.8. Hoping to be 120, and to stop drops this weekend! I may be over reaching, but one can hope!

Hope you ladies have a wonderful day!

[Star73]

I did bad yesterday

What should I do? Re-load or just continue on with VLC?

[Doing It Right]

Star- just pick yourself up, dust yourself off, jump back on, and get it girl!

We're all human, we all mess up, just do it today!

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by Star73

I did bad yesterday

What should I do? Re-load or just continue on with VLC?

Hmm, it depends if you have started vlcd yet, then keep going with it, if it was your first day of vlcd you can add another load day with no ill effects.
You can do this!

[LaraSuzz]

Forgot to say that I'm down 1.2 on my 9th day vlcd. I have about a week and a half left. I'm already drooling at p3. Went to costco after work yesterday and my favorite swiss cheese jarlsberg is on sale I wanted it so badly. I will get two of them before the sale is over. It was food porn all night after that!!! I fell asleep watching the finale of The Bachelor, I was so mad at myself. And at him for his choice in fiancees. She is so awful, ugh!!

[Gibby]

Finished VLC day 1. I'm a little hungry this morning but that will pass.

[Lildrew]

I am down 1.0 this morning!! I only have four more days of pellets, 2 days without and then P3 HERE I COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BaileysGirl]

Originally Posted by Star73

I did bad yesterday

What should I do? Re-load or just continue on with VLC?

Sorry it's very hard but you can do it! Not sure about what you should do.

Originally Posted by Doing It Right

Natasha- 2 lbs is great! Your body's just getting back in the swing of losing!

I'm telling myself that!

I'm down 1.2 today. Weighed exactly 123, Today is VLCD36 for a total of -30.8. Hoping to be 120, and to stop drops this weekend! I may be over reaching, but one can hope!

Hope you ladies have a wonderful day!

WOOT! Go Girl!

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Forgot to say that I'm down 1.2 on my 9th day vlcd. I have about a week and a half left. I'm already drooling at p3. Went to costco after work yesterday and my favorite swiss cheese jarlsberg is on sale I wanted it so badly. I will get two of them before the sale is over. It was food porn all night after that!!! I fell asleep watching the finale of The Bachelor, I was so mad at myself. And at him for his choice in fiancees. She is so awful, ugh!!

I wish I only had a week and a half left! I hate P2 but it's worth it. That cheese sounds AMAZING! I was killing myself on pinterest last P2 with all the pics of food! Not watching the Bachelor this time...Maybe I'll look on the web to see who he chose...Is it over already?

Originally Posted by Lildrew

I am down 1.0 this morning!! I only have four more days of pellets, 2 days without and then P3 HERE I COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOOOOO GIRL!

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by BaileysGirl

I wish I only had a week and a half left! I hate P2 but it's worth it. That cheese sounds AMAZING! I was killing myself on pinterest last P2 with all the pics of food! Not watching the Bachelor this time...Maybe I'll look on the web to see who he chose...Is it over already?

yeah The Bachelor finalle was last night, he chose the girl that everyone hated and they already broke up and got back together lol duh... he should have listened!!!

Originally Posted by Lildrew

I am down 1.0 this morning!! I only have four more days of pellets, 2 days without and then P3 HERE I COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoop whoop well done girlfriend!

[MsHistory]

Ugh, please help me....

Day 4 at 140.something. This morning I woke up retaining so much water I had "sausage fingers". (Does anybody else get that, or is it just me?) But yesterday, I did NOT have more sodium than I typically do. And TOM is gone as of yesterday, so seriously WHAT GIVES?! Does hcg itself cause water retention? My water intake is stellar, around a gallon a day. My menu was similar to every other day. I am so frustrated, and I think I will do an apple day tomorrow. (I would have today, but can't.)

I'm on day 16 and have only lost about 7-8 pounds. This is NOT how it's supposed to work and I am frustrated! (Not to mention moody, emotional, and seemingly braindead...) What is going on with me this round?!

[MsHistory]

I drank a lot of cinnamon/apple tea... does cinnamon cause retention?

[kaylem]

HI ladies! So, down 3 pounds this morning on Day 2 of VLCD. THANK GOODNESS. I can't even explain how out of control I have felt for the last six weeks. I would lose a few pounds, and then gain 5. Then I would lose another couple of pounds, but by the end of the week, I would gain three. Over the course of time, weight just kept creeping up. I felt like I could NOT control my eating--I would do ok for a couple of days, and then crash. I know I am not explaining anything new, but it just feels really good to feel like I am back in control. The most difficult part of this is that my DH does NOT want me to use hhcg for weight loss again. He is pretty much against taking medicine unless absolutely necessary, and supported me through my first two rounds last year, but now....well, now he thinks that I should have "figured it out" as far as my weight is concerned. I understand his view--but it's just not reality for me. He doesn't want me to yo-yo, or add chemicals to my body. I get it. I even appreciate his concern. Heck, I agree with him! But this is the ONLY method that has worked for me. So, unfortunately, it means that in order to do this diet, I have to do it "under the radar," so to speak. It's kind of hard to disguise only eating 500 calories a day! He DOES know that I am cutting out fat and sugar and eating the foods on Simeon's protocol, which he is totally in support of. (Who wouldn't be? They are healthy, whole foods!) It's just the addition of hcg that he is unaware of. I don't like it, but I am desparate. If he asks, I'll tell him. I'm just not going to advertise it. In fact, I'm not going to advertise it to ANYONE. This round is about me.

Originally Posted by Doing It Right

I'm down 1.2 today. Weighed exactly 123, Today is VLCD36 for a total of -30.8. Hoping to be 120, and to stop drops this weekend! I may be over reaching, but one can hope!

WOWSA Natasha! I'm so impresed! I am always in awe of those who have the stamina to go for the full 40 days. That takes determination and focus. I am sure you will reach your goal and will stabilize there beautifully. Your hard work WILL pay off.

Originally Posted by Lildrew

I am down 1.0 this morning!! I only have four more days of pellets, 2 days without and then P3 HERE I COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nicely done, Drew!!! You have come so far! Holy Cow-I'm proud of you. Way to go.

[Lildrew]

Originally Posted by MsHistory

Ugh, please help me....

Day 4 at 140.something. This morning I woke up retaining so much water I had "sausage fingers". (Does anybody else get that, or is it just me?) But yesterday, I did NOT have more sodium than I typically do. And TOM is gone as of yesterday, so seriously WHAT GIVES?! Does hcg itself cause water retention? My water intake is stellar, around a gallon a day. My menu was similar to every other day. I am so frustrated, and I think I will do an apple day tomorrow. (I would have today, but can't.)

I'm on day 16 and have only lost about 7-8 pounds. This is NOT how it's supposed to work and I am frustrated! (Not to mention moody, emotional, and seemingly braindead...) What is going on with me this round?!

Hi MsHistory!! Are you stalled, or are you just retaining water? If you follow Dr. Simeon's Protocol Apple Days are not for "fixing" water retention, they are really only done for psychological reasons (per P&I) when you are firmly stalled for over 4+ days (it might even be 5+ days, I can't remember exactly). I wouldn't suggest doing one to "fix" retention.

I would just give it a day or so and continue on as you are. You sounds like you are doing great!! And your water intake is fantastic! I think that sometimes our body just thumbs it's nose at us, and we may never "get" why it's doing it on any particular day.

Anyway, that's my very cheap two cents! For what it's worth, which isn't much.

[Lildrew]

Originally Posted by Doing It Right

Natasha- 2 lbs is great! Your body's just getting back in the swing of losing!

I'm down 1.2 today. Weighed exactly 123, Today is VLCD36 for a total of -30.8. Hoping to be 120, and to stop drops this weekend! I may be over reaching, but one can hope!

Hope you ladies have a wonderful day!

WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds like you and I will be P3 at the same time!!