Hcg Rogues and Alternatives 2/27/12

[minimonkey]

Disney -- the distributor claims that the bottle last for at least 6o days if they are unopened, so who knows.... I could test it to see if it is still potent when I decide to use it -- guess I will wait and see.... I've heard others say that they do lose potency more quickly than that....

I will hold off and see where I am -- right now just the thought of finishing this long round isn't very appealing, so I can't imagine wanting to extend it a lot longer than that, lol!

[minimonkey]

I haven't decided yet if I am getting on the scale -- I'm mad at it

Then again, I should probably know what it says....sigh....

[mdolph]

Morning.....

Mini I'd hang onto it and if the company figures out their mistake send it back.

Disney, yeah for the last early morning! My husband goes in at 3 and I can't even imagine having to be up and moving for 4!

Sass, well doesn't that stink! I wish I could help you. It has to be that dang blasted hormone thingy! Sorry!

Nothing new and exciting for me. I'm still in the 140.whatever range. I didn't eat as much yesterday and I did get a run in so I thought I might break back into the 130s but no luck. I'm ok with my weight so I'm not stressing it or anything and I'm starting to feel like perhaps I must be doing something right if I'm able to maintain within a few ounces and I'm eating like a nut. Last night I even had a snack. I never eat after 7 and I did that twice this week and still maintained! Today I am pressing my luck and I had oatmeal for breakfast and will eat out for dinner. Again not going to freak out over a gain as tomorrow is my 5.5 mile run and I'll need the energy!

Long busy weekend of cleaning ahead and we're conteplating a living room makeover before the party. I'm not sure when I'll find the time to look at carpet but it's got to get done this weekend. Luckily the room is small enough that a remnant will work if I can find a color and texture I like. I'm thinking a dark brown. I've decided to give into my husbands begging and get some new albeit cheap and crappy furniture for now. While it's against my better judgement no matter what I do to the couch it still looks like crap and it still smells. I found a set for $600 that will work and I'm sure when I finally find what I actually want I'll be able to sell it easily.

Julie, I'd love leather furniture but its so dang cold to sit on! I'm thinking microfiber. My friends with kids love it. Right now my set is 11 years old and I swear I've been able to keep it looking nice until recently when the kids started eating in the living room more often. They're going to hate me when we get new furniture, even if it is crappy stuff they aren't eating on it!

[minimonkey]

Plum -- I posted that last night, so I was contemplating whether to start fat fasting Friday (today) or Saturday -- I opted for tomorrow --I'm going "moderate everything" today -- fat, protein, carbs (nonfat yogurt and 1 fruit) -- about 800 calories. I'm doing one big meal (breakfast) so I get an intermittent fast in there as well. About half of those calories came from fat -- coconut oil mostly -- that will look a lot like yesterday, just higher calorie.

Scale is back down today -- looks like just a regular stall pattern with bouncing around -- neither really gaining nor losing. I'm hoping my weekend fat fast breaks that --

Sass -- you and I are in about the same boat -- I hear ya! It's frustrating.

Mel -- I'm planning to hang on to the hcg -- I seriously doubt the company will figure it out (they're disorganized) -- but I was wondering about the cut label -- would that worry anyone? OR am I being silly?

I'll definitely be breaking out the big rogue fat-fast guns tomorrow -- I can't wait! Yum!

I guess I will just go ahead and dose through it --and then roll right back into the round. If my normal round pattern holds, I am about due for this stall to break in any event (unless I end up in an endless one like I did before, but I think a number of factors accounted for that one).

[minimonkey]

Disney -- the distributor does sell two bottle sets for longer rounds, so the hcg may well be good on the other end of this bottle -- but that is one long, long round if I decide to use it. Whatever -- I'll hold on to it for now and see where things land.

[CherylB]

Originally Posted by Mojenna

Thanks for your input everyone. I have about 35 pounds to lose. Despite eating a REALLY high fat diet and relatively little grain, I have the lipid profile of an anorexic. But, I've been taking a product called Sonic Cholesterol made from lanolin that has raised my cholesterol back up into the 140's. However, it doesn't work too well without some fat in the diet, so the reason I posted here was to check out what you all do that is so rogue. My plan is to take 1 tsp of MCT oil with breakfast, add 1T coconut oil to my lunch and have the standard hcg dinner. That is what I did today, and I feel much more normal energy wise than I have all week. I am at the end of week one in a three week protocol. But, if adding the coconut oil works out I might go the full six weeks just to get it over with. After I lose the weight I plan to go back to high fat paleo for maintenance. I just find that nothing else I have ever tried will budge the weight, but I can maintain just fine. I will let you all know if this modification works for me.

Sounds like you're doing all you can to make the most of your situation. I may be wrong but I know the common theory is that animal fats worsen (or raise) cholesterol. But I seem to recall (maybe in "Good calories, Bad calories") that it is actually simple carbs that raise it the most. I might have to google that and see if I'm just completely whacked in my thinking. Maybe you can do the OWL version of P2 and add in some popcorn. I enjoyed it but it needed zero cal butter spray and popcorn cheese (in the grocery store next to the popcorn.)

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

Wow you gals have been busy. I'm tired and for some reason my lower back hurts (in a way other than the L5-S1 pain I've had for 20 years) I hope its just back strain. I was picking up some poles with sand-filled bases at the horse class (daughter was riding - I didn't get to). They didn't seem that heavy. I'm so out of shape.

628 calories today. 65 grams protein. So, so tired. I stayed up late working last night but got the project finished and turned in today Yay! My annual review at work is coming up and I have a couple blemishes on my year that I need to try to make up for
(1. spacing out and being late one day when I had stuff on my schedule and 2. mouthing off about something I disagreed with which my boss took as defiance and wrote me up for) I've been doing really well, lately. Being punctual and super careful not to tromp on my boss's fragile ego. Hope it works!!!

I'm really out of shape, too. We need to always remember to use good body mechanics and respect our elders (aka US). I hope your annual review ends up being better than you expect it to be. My annual reviews always sucked. At least as far as I was concerned. Always something negative. Never a mention of all the good things that you managed to accomplish. So demoralizing.

Originally Posted by minimonkey

Ok, this is weird -- today I received a second bottle of the hcg (which I didn't order, but they did have trouble with my credit card the first time.) It comes in a box with a seal that says "if seal is damaged, check contents before signing for package" -- and that seal was broken as if the package had been opened....? Someone did sign for it, probably my neighbors, but I doubt they opened my mail.

The bottle inside is still safety sealed and everything was there -- but the whole thing is strange. I am going to use the other one first and I may not end up using the mystery one at all anyhow -- but I am wondering if it was maybe opened by UPS due to regulations-- or something else? It's odd.

I'm pretty sure I wasn't charged for the second bottle -- it was probably shipped in the whole change of vendor frenzy... but it really did look like the label had been cut open. I suppose it is possible my neighbor did do that -- checking before signing, etc.

I guess my question is this -- would you worry, or would you use the product if you ended up needing it?

Well, first I'd make sure you didn't get charged for it. Second I'd ask the neighbor about the opened package and just tell them you are asking to ease your mind. Then I'd just thank God for the extra bottle and try to preserve it in such a way as to keep it potent while you use the other bottle you just got! Is this last bottle the same "use by" date as the one you just received?

What did you mean about the label being cut open? The seal is intact on the bottle? If so, I'd trust it.

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

Up another pound. Back to 158. Really, really upset about this. I try so hard and I still can't lose wieght. Its sad.

Well.... I guess 6 pounds in 3 weeks really isn't that bad. I could not have done that without being on HCG. I just would like to see spectacular losses, but I guess that just isn't going to happen when I don't have as much excess weight as I did when I started last July. I have lost a solid 10 over the two months of this round. I guess a lot of people would be happy to lose 10 pounds in 2 months. When I was younger I would have lost 25 pounds by now. But I'm not younger. I accept where I am. I am happy to be healthy.

My hormone implant is still in place. I can still feel a little knot under the skin. That is really not helping me lose, but the hot flashes were really bad before. I'm not getting another implant, though. Its making me grow hair on my chest Seriously. Crazy stuff!!!!

Sorry to be so self-absorbed. I'm just really disappointed in myself that I haven't done this round right. But I have done my best. I have to accept that this is as good of results as I'm going to get with the efforts I can put in. I think I'm going to go back to looking at OA (Overeaters Anonymous). I need some more mental and spritual work on my food and how it rules my life.

I'm sorry, Sue. But you said you were sore in your back in places that aren't normally sore so that means inflammation. I noticed that your daily calories on plan are sometimes under or around 300. I often had that happen and I felt fine on that little food, but maybe you need more in order to lose better. Have you tried eating around 600-700 daily for a while to see if it made a difference?

OA might be a good option for you. My sister started going back to meetings because she feels it helps. I'm very anti-group so something like that skeeves me out. Maybe it's pride but I think it's more being a loner and independent. "I'll do it myself!" she said as the boat was going down in flames.

You're not self-absorbed. You're telling us what you're going through. That's what you're supposed to be doing here with us. We love you!

Originally Posted by DisneyPrincess

Quick check in. Finally made it through a complete day. Was rewarded on the scale too.

Aiming for a run this evening depending on my exhaustion. This is my last 4am wakeup day so things should get easier from now on

Hope everyone has a good morning. I'll try to catch up later

Yippee! Hope you get your run in later and thank God it's Friday!

Originally Posted by txladymedic

I was down another 1/2 lb today down to 174.2! I am craving popcorn something fierce! I do not know what is wrong with me!
The second is my last day of shots! I am ready to be off of P2!

Almost done with your round! I don't think popcorn is allowed on P3, though. If you had been doing the Omaha Weight Loss (OWL) plan for P2, (see above) you could have gotten away with it. Sorry to be the barer of bad news. I hope the popcorn cravings pass. Enjoy P3!!! Keep us posted on your progress with stabilization. (ie, stick around!)

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

Update. I'm going ahead with finishing this bottle of Rx pellets and am going to stick it out with low cals the rest of the dosing, but I'm not happy about it. Maybe it will be like my first round that had a stall in week 3 and then I dropped. I hope so. Stupid scale. I think its broken. (Not really).

How much longer will that extend your P2? We U. Hang in there, cutie-pie.

[Sasseaux]

Thanks, Cheryl and everyone for the commiseration!!! Only about 10 more days of Rx doses left. I can't seem to hit the calories correctly. Either I skip supper at night or I don't. Once I start eating supper I don't stop. Maybe daughter and I could go for a walk after I eat and then tell myself if I'm still hungry I can eat more after the walk.

I'm going to be smack in the first week of P3 when I leave for Belize. Shoot. Bad planning. Oh well, we will cross that bridge when we come to it. I'm going to need one more round to get to goal, anyway. I think I will keep it low carb as I can on the trip ( I don't drink so no alchy calories/carbs to fear), wait about 30 days, the hormone implant should be wearing off by then, and then do the last round before I get another implant. Yah, that's it. that's the ticket.

On the consolation side, my size 12 pants from Cato are kinda too big now. But my Harve Bernard 12's from the thrift store are still too tight. That Harve Bernard pantsuit is to die for. It seems as if it has never been worn!!!! And its RED. I thought designer clothes were supposed to be vanity sized. Oh well.

[minimonkey]

Yes, Cheryl, the safety seal on the actual bottle is intact -- but there is a label on the shipping box that says "Stop! If this label or the package is damaged, check contents before signing for the delivery!!" -- that is what looked as if it had been slit open. It was cut on all three sides of the package --like it had been slit with a knife -- which is weird.

Whatever -- I'll use the non-mystery one first, and just hope I don't even need to consider using the other one -- at this rate, I really hope I don't anyhow -- that would mean a really long-ass round for me, or another one after this -- neither of which appeals to me... so I will just assume it isn't going to be an issue.

I'm mostly wondering if UPS opened it due to all the hol-de-rol about shipping drugs and such....they do have the right to do that, for homeland security of course.....

[minimonkey]

Sass -- when was the pantsuit made? If it is vintage, sizes have changed a lot, which might explain the difference -- it sounds very snazzy!

[Sasseaux]

Mini, I dunno - doesn't look too old. Its a classic style so hard to tell.

On your label thing, I think the warning is telling you don't sign for the package saying you have received it until you make sure the contents haven't been stolen. That's my interpretation,. Somebody probly cut it looking for "good" Rx drugs. Lucky they didn't throw away your drops in frustration. Plus, Customs checks the stuff sometimes. I get e-cig stuff from China and it has to go through customs.

[CherylB]

Originally Posted by paulabob

Wow, I'd be unhappy too! 10 pounds in 2 months isn't enough for the deprivation of this diet. Have you considered a nice long P3 to move up the metabolism? Maybe leptin reset style?

I would want that implant out!

Of course, with that hot new boyfriend of yours...maybe it's hard to focus on food right now.

Sending SHOUTOUT to all my peeps!

Back to 123.6. Thinking it won't budge from that by Saturday, but I'm glad I'm back! This is really slow progress the past 2 months, but my metabolism is still up. Based on calories in/out, I'm still over 1700 calories (was 1800 over Christmas on the reset). So I'm not stopping yet.

It's amazing how a pound 15 pounds from goal is so much more significant than a pound 90 pounds from goal. That paper roll analogy is so true, and makes this slow loss more bearable since I can see a bit of small change from week to week.

Just my early morning ramblings... Hope DD doesn't have ear infection, darn ear is bothering her.

Paula, your losses are slow but I love that "paper roll" analogy. I hadn't really thought of that and it makes so much sense! Thanks for mentioning that. And when I look at what you were at your highest weight and see where you are now, I am nothing but IMPRESSED! I hope you are, too.

I hope your DD is not getting that ear infection! I usually find when my ear hurts that it is a precursor to a tooth problem. Eventually I find that is always the case.

Originally Posted by pendragginp

Cheryl, it is frustrating when we have to keep waiting for someone else to give us something to do. Probably she was discombobulated herself with a big benefit coming up.

As for me, same weight as yesterday. AND I discovered that I'm not ounces from where I was when I fell off the wagon, I looked at my chart and found that I'm 1.4 POUNDS from where I was! Dadblast! Well, it's my own fault and it WILL come back off, but SHOOT!

I am patient with her because she is literally the hub of the wheel. And she is all volunteer, too! I don't know why she does all that she does for free, but she does it. That's why I like helping her. Plus I'm learning some skills that I wouldn't necessarily have learned otherwise. Right now I'm just working in Word Docs but eventually she'll teach me how to use Excel, etc. It's all like a big Internship. It's sharpening my mind, teaching me patience and how to be reliable and accountable and giving me skills that can lead to a job someday. (A job outside of healthcare, which is all that I really want for my future.)

1.4 lbs is still "peanuts." If you enjoyed the food and drink you indulged in, be glad it's only 1.4 lbs. That'll be gone in a hurry if you behave yourself. I know it and you know it.

Originally Posted by Violet_Dream

Good Morning! Down another .6! Today is another protein day (eggs/turkey sausage/turkey bacon), chicken thighs for lunch and dinner.

My hhcg is "out for delivery" will be here today and I decided to start loading tomorrow. I found out that I can have my lab work done tomorrow so that's what influenced my decision. This time, I'm getting a cheesecake (like I've always done), but am not doing the mac & cheese and ice cream.

I'm excited and this time I'll end the round properly. Have a great day everyone!

It's so funny to see what our load days look like! Cheesecake sounds good but I can't eat too many pieces. It's just so rich. I think I might keel-over from the sugar crash afterward. I always run to pizza, chocolate and wine. I love plenty of other foods but those are my key loading choices.

I'll be loading in a day or two myself. I haven't decided to do another round but it's 4 months before my nephew's wedding and I hadn't decided to go off hhcg. It just sort of happened when all things started to spin in a dizzying fashion all around me. (Dog, foreclosure, law day, side pain, and whatever else happened.) It's time to climb back on-board. I'll still do it rogue but it's time to get back in gear.

Originally Posted by mdolph

Morning.....

Nothing new and exciting for me. I'm still in the 140.whatever range. I didn't eat as much yesterday and I did get a run in so I thought I might break back into the 130s but no luck. I'm ok with my weight so I'm not stressing it or anything and I'm starting to feel like perhaps I must be doing something right if I'm able to maintain within a few ounces and I'm eating like a nut. Last night I even had a snack. I never eat after 7 and I did that twice this week and still maintained! Today I am pressing my luck and I had oatmeal for breakfast and will eat out for dinner. Again not going to freak out over a gain as tomorrow is my 5.5 mile run and I'll need the energy!

Long busy weekend of cleaning ahead and we're conteplating a living room makeover before the party. I'm not sure when I'll find the time to look at carpet but it's got to get done this weekend. Luckily the room is small enough that a remnant will work if I can find a color and texture I like. I'm thinking a dark brown. I've decided to give into my husbands begging and get some new albeit cheap and crappy furniture for now. While it's against my better judgement no matter what I do to the couch it still looks like crap and it still smells. I found a set for $600 that will work and I'm sure when I finally find what I actually want I'll be able to sell it easily.

Julie, I'd love leather furniture but its so dang cold to sit on! I'm thinking microfiber. My friends with kids love it. Right now my set is 11 years old and I swear I've been able to keep it looking nice until recently when the kids started eating in the living room more often. They're going to hate me when we get new furniture, even if it is crappy stuff they aren't eating on it!

You are doing remarkably well with maintaining in that range! Look at you go! I hope you have a good result after eating the oatmeal and I'm sure it will help with your long run. Enjoy!

You've got a lot of shopping in your future! I love it as long as I can afford it. When it comes to furniture I prefer to buy new but only because then they deliver it for me. (WHEW!) But those days are gone and all things I buy now are from thrift stores. You have to be really careful these days though, with all the bed bug infestations. Give things a really close inspection and even a good "whiff". Doesn't your son have a bunch of allergies?

I had a really nice microfiber sofa and matching loveseat but sold them both when I was certain I was going to be living and traveling full-time in an RV. Now they are gone and I'm stuck with the mis-matched stuff. Oh, well. They were the kind with recliners on both ends and the loveseat were rocker/recliners. The sofa had a fold-down table in the center. You can find some really nice stuff out there. I sold mine for a lot less than $600! Shop online. Buy from someone who is moving or from an estate sale. Just make sure they weren't smokers or hoarders.

As for me, I'm feeling MUCH better pain-wise and I'm doing my regularly scheduled equine care day at 4. It is not raining or snowing but is going to begin raining tonight and get windier. I have to be grateful for the dry period but be mindful of the horses being on alert. When the weather is changing to something worse, they sense it and are so unpredictable. I'll be wearing my back brace to give my core a little stability while I'm doing things that are likely to make my "popped tendon" worse.

Then tomorrow at noon I'm back to the farm for an orientation. Some of it will be indoors but if it's not raining, part of it will be out in the Arena. So I'm hoping it's not raining so we can learn something to do with the actual therapy lesson routines! I know next to nothing about that aspect of what they do. Spring is fast-approaching and things are ramping up. When I was there yesterday, working in the office, there were two people cleaning up the saddles in the kitchen. Things are getting very intersting!

As I said in an early part of one of my posts from today, I'm going to restart hhcg soon. I can't really rationalize loading at the moment after just getting my eating back under control. I wonder if I should skip the load this round and just dive right in. I might load one day and call it done.

My weight today is 178.0. My goal remains 140. So that means I have exactly 38 lbs to lose before the wedding (but I want them off long before then.) If I start soon (Sunday is my sister Teresa's birthday party so that would be the best day to load,) I can be on my first VLCD on the 5th. I think that's what I'll do.

I hope everyone has a pleasant Friday and that we all have a great weekend!

[paulabob]

Argh, just back from doctors. Both kids are okay...DS had chest pains all night so we had that checked out, and DDs ears were clear other than "potatoes" LOL.

I'm now almost 10 pounds lighter than my son. Awesome! OK, 50 pounds heavier than DD, but she's only 12.

[CherylB]

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

Thanks, Cheryl and everyone for the commiseration!!! Only about 10 more days of Rx doses left. I can't seem to hit the calories correctly. Either I skip supper at night or I don't. Once I start eating supper I don't stop. Maybe daughter and I could go for a walk after I eat and then tell myself if I'm still hungry I can eat more after the walk.

I'm going to be smack in the first week of P3 when I leave for Belize. Shoot. Bad planning. Oh well, we will cross that bridge when we come to it. I'm going to need one more round to get to goal, anyway. I think I will keep it low carb as I can on the trip ( I don't drink so no alchy calories/carbs to fear), wait about 30 days, the hormone implant should be wearing off by then, and then do the last round before I get another implant. Yah, that's it. that's the ticket.

On the consolation side, my size 12 pants from Cato are kinda too big now. But my Harve Bernard 12's from the thrift store are still too tight. That Harve Bernard pantsuit is to die for. It seems as if it has never been worn!!!! And its RED. I thought designer clothes were supposed to be vanity sized. Oh well.

Ten more dosing days for you, but it will make you 10 days happier in Belize. I hear it's beautiful there. And they speak English! Many English-speaking peeps move there for a better way of life. I've given it some thought at times in my life. There are American communities in Mexico where people live in luxury on their pensions that would barely pay the bills here in the States. Well, things might have changed since then. It's been a while since I looked into it. Things always change. (*sigh*)

Sounds like a good plan to postpone getting the next hormone implant until after your next hcg round. Maybe that will make a difference for you. I hope your cute pantsuit fits you soon! Sounds like it's darling!

Originally Posted by minimonkey

Yes, Cheryl, the safety seal on the actual bottle is intact -- but there is a label on the shipping box that says "Stop! If this label or the package is damaged, check contents before signing for the delivery!!" -- that is what looked as if it had been slit open. It was cut on all three sides of the package --like it had been slit with a knife -- which is weird.

Whatever -- I'll use the non-mystery one first, and just hope I don't even need to consider using the other one -- at this rate, I really hope I don't anyhow -- that would mean a really long-ass round for me, or another one after this -- neither of which appeals to me... so I will just assume it isn't going to be an issue.

I'm mostly wondering if UPS opened it due to all the hol-de-rol about shipping drugs and such....they do have the right to do that, for homeland security of course.....

That would make me stop and wonder, too. But the label on the bottle itself was not cut or removed, right? The safety seal was intact and all labeling on the bottle was as it should be? It's kind of strange because you won't be needing that bottle and there you are, holding it in your hot little hand! Maybe you could sell it to someone you know who is looking for "the real thing." Just don't get arrested.

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

Mini, I dunno - doesn't look too old. Its a classic style so hard to tell.

On your label thing, I think the warning is telling you don't sign for the package saying you have received it until you make sure the contents haven't been stolen. That's my interpretation,. Somebody probly cut it looking for "good" Rx drugs. Lucky they didn't throw away your drops in frustration. Plus, Customs checks the stuff sometimes. I get e-cig stuff from China and it has to go through customs.

I understand that they need to check packages for safety reasons but if they checked it legitimately, they should mark the box with a federal stamp to show who opened or cut the package! Wouldn't that make sense? Wouldn't that be considerate of them?

Originally Posted by paulabob

Argh, just back from doctors. Both kids are okay...DS had chest pains all night so we had that checked out, and DDs ears were clear other than "potatoes" LOL.

I'm now almost 10 pounds lighter than my son. Awesome! OK, 50 pounds heavier than DD, but she's only 12.

I'm glad that everyone checked out okay but sorry that you have so much on your plate right now with all these health issues! I wonder what the chest pain was from. When my gallbladder was going bad, the only symptom I got was a very specific pain to the right of my sternum (or was it left?) I could put the tip of my finger on it. But when I finally went to the ER about it one night, the Intern palpated over my right upper quadrant and it was tender. Instant diagnosis. He just walked in, pushed a little on the area, turned around and pealed off his gloves.

[Sasseaux]

Thanks, Cheryl.

I had one more thought of self-obsessing aboutmy weight - or rather a question - and then I will go back to diligently starving for 10 more days without complaint (maybe LOL). Anyway

WATER - I have been taking all my liquid in as tea, granted it has been caffiene free and health food store brands of tea, but do you think it makes any difference that I never drink just plain water? If anybody thinks plain water would be the key please give a shout on here. Thanks!!

At this point, it can't hurt to swtich to as much plain water as possible. I was hoping someone would say - oh absolutely, there's your problem right there!!!

[CherylB]

One vote for plain water.

[paulabob]

Lost my response earlier!

Vote for at least 1/2 water, and double check teas (not too much artificial sweetener or carby dried fruits).

Can't say I do that any more. Since I started on salt in the morning I'm not as thirsty...forgetting to drink enough.

Cheryl, the doc said something about chondroitis (sp?). He did a very thorough exam and it reassured my son immensely.

[Sasseaux]

Paula, what's salt in the morning?

And I missed the paper roll analogy. What was that about?

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

Paula, what's salt in the morning?

And I missed the paper roll analogy. What was that about?

I have some adrenal fatigue from the stress of the last couple years, and take a little salt in the morning. There's a hormone that is depleted that made me super thirsty most of the day. With salt in the morning, it doesn't happen. Strange but true.

OK, the paper roll analogy. Imagine your brand new roll of paper towels when you open it. Unroll the first 5 sheets - and it looks just as big. Then, when the roll is almost empty, take 5 sheets off, and there is a visible difference. Fat loss is like that. When we start at our top weight, it's often very difficult to see much difference. I lost well over 30 pounds before my friends started noticing (ok, except for one). It was disheartening not to get any kudos. Course my LCF buds here carried me through.

And the converse is true...not losing much weight now or fast, but it's easier to tell a difference and see how clothes are fitting better faster, even from just 5 pounds ago. I'm getting close to emptying that paper roll, you are too!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by CherylB

I am so tired. I didn't sleep well last night so tonight I'm going to try and get caught up. I was in the farm's office from 12:45 to 6 pm today, helping them prepare for the "Horse's Ball" that is on Saturday night. It's a fund raising event. I was able to help quite a bit but I always feel I could have done more if the lady had thought ahead of time what I could do and then be ready for me when I plunk my keister in the chair. I spend a lot of time waiting for her to tell me what to do next. She's overwhelmed and today was very chaotic.

Tomorrow is equine care day. I will wear my back brace and take it easy. Prednisone has kicked in and I feel great! Saturday morning is another thing at the farm and so I'll be there 3 days in a row. An orientation of some kind but teaching us things we didn't get taught yet. Supposed to be more in line with the therapeutic lessons they will soon be giving again. Should be interesting!

Sunday is my sister's b-day pizza party. After that, things will hopefully slow back down a bit. Time will tell. I'm still doing well with keeping food under control.

Glad you're getting some time w/ the horses!! Take it easy though. And I think loading 1 day at your sister's party sounds like a great plan!!

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

Up another pound. Back to 158. Really, really upset about this. I try so hard and I still can't lose wieght. Its sad.

Well.... I guess 6 pounds in 3 weeks really isn't that bad. I could not have done that without being on HCG. I just would like to see spectacular losses, but I guess that just isn't going to happen when I don't have as much excess weight as I did when I started last July. I have lost a solid 10 over the two months of this round. I guess a lot of people would be happy to lose 10 pounds in 2 months. When I was younger I would have lost 25 pounds by now. But I'm not younger. I accept where I am. I am happy to be healthy.

My hormone implant is still in place. I can still feel a little knot under the skin. That is really not helping me lose, but the hot flashes were really bad before. I'm not getting another implant, though. Its making me grow hair on my chest Seriously. Crazy stuff!!!!

Sorry to be so self-absorbed. I'm just really disappointed in myself that I haven't done this round right. But I have done my best. I have to accept that this is as good of results as I'm going to get with the efforts I can put in. I think I'm going to go back to looking at OA (Overeaters Anonymous). I need some more mental and spritual work on my food and how it rules my life.

Big to you!! That totally stinks!! you've been working and sacrificing for so long!! you're a tough cookie. 10 more days? You go girl!! Show that scale who's boss. Hoping your stall breaks tomorrow!

Originally Posted by Violet_Dream

Good Morning! Down another .6! Today is another protein day (eggs/turkey sausage/turkey bacon), chicken thighs for lunch and dinner.

My hhcg is "out for delivery" will be here today and I decided to start loading tomorrow. I found out that I can have my lab work done tomorrow so that's what influenced my decision. This time, I'm getting a cheesecake (like I've always done), but am not doing the mac & cheese and ice cream.

I'm excited and this time I'll end the round properly. Have a great day everyone!

Good job working back down. I'm sure you'll have a great round.

Paula-back where you belong, heading into the weekend. It's great you're keeping your metabolism going and allowing your body to adjust to the weight loss. Certainly good for your skin that way!!

Mini-bonus bottle!! I'm sure it's fine. Hope your fat fast goes well this w/e. Maybe you're on to something. Sounds like your body prefers fat. May be worth a few days of experimenting?

Tx-wtg! Good job!!

Pend-you'll get there. Keep plugging away!!

DP-glad you got your run in and glad you were rewarded on the scale!!

Melanie-oh yes, no eating on the furniture!! I keep my kids in the kitchen to eat, but dh is the problem!! We've found leather furniture on Craigslist for $300 for a whole 3 pc set. Got my replacement couch (which matches the other furniture perfectly) for $75. I've had it for 14 years, and it was cheap (Jennifer's convertibles) to begin with. I'm in AZ so the cold isn't our challenge. But sweating on a leather sofa? Not fun either. hope you can all agree on the makeover and it's a fun weekend for you guys!

I think that's everyone. Sorry if I missed anyone!!

I am down 0.6 today to VWT!! I'm 149 today. Lowest I've been since 6th grade. That will be my line if I continue to lose this round. Very happy.

I am noticing that my P2 meals are seeming really big to me!! This is odd and I can't remember feeling this way on other rounds. Really pleased by that, especially this late in my game. My P2 chili over salad lunch (like a taco salad, kinda') seems huge right now. Had several bites but it seems to be growing in my bowl! Very unusual!!

Anyway, off to see a potential house for us. I can't believe we're even considering buying something? The world has gone mad!!

Have a great weekend girls!! I just made chili to keep in the fridge, and I have steak and chicken lettuce wrap stuff all made too. I'm doing cottage cheese and strawberries tomorrow at dd's vball tournament (an hour away!!). I hope to stay strong through the weekend and maybe head into P3 on Mon or Tues? We'll see. I still feel great, minimal hunger, plenty of energy and I can actually see that I'm getting smaller!! Truly amazing!! God is so good!!

[Sasseaux]

Oh Paula I LOVE the paper towel roll analogy. It is so true.

Lately, I can see the losses myself. Like I noticed that 2 inches around my waist and I noticed the boob loss before I caught it on the meauring tape and I now notice it in my face.

That's terrific. Thanks for sharing that.

[minimonkey]

Sass -- I was thinking something similar about the label -- that someone was hoping for "good" drugs, maybe. It didn't have to go through customs, as it was shipped in the US... but UPS really might have opened it.

You all have reassured me that it is probably fine.

I am going to come in over my calorie limit today ... I got really hungry, and decided on a second meal (eggs(mostly whites), a little chicken, nonfat yogurt, and a little coconut oil) -- I think it is going to put me somewhere around 1200 for the day -- maybe a little lower, and I can't say I am overly happy with myself on this -- but I need to get a ton of work done today, so I just didn't have the patience to be hungry and dragged out energy wise....

I'll make up for any gain over the weekend, I hope, with the fat fast. Maybe I needed a little extra fuel -- at least it was all clean food (per my plan.)

[txladymedic]

I'm down another 0.6 lbs weighing 173.6 this morning for a total of 18.8 lbs this round! Since today is my last shot day I usually take the weight tomorrow morning as the weight I'm trying to stay at. I usually stabilize pretty well, the first week though can be a little rocky!
I'm planning a surprise for my Mom's 70th birthday! I know that she doesn't like parties so my sister is going to fly into town and we're going to take her out to her favorite restaurant. Then that weekend we're all going to my other sister's house and we're all going out and bringing the grandkids. We're excited!!

[minimonkey]

On another note, though -- since I ended up with multiple pregnancy tests from the two hcg kits (they send you two with each bottle) -- I tested my drops that I am just finishing up, and they still test positive, so they definitely do hold up well in the fridge -- this bottle has been open since Feb 7th.

I guess that's good, anyhow. Just wish I were better able to stick to very, very low calories with it -- harrumph. Oh well, tomorrow is another day -- and the weekend is a fat fast, so that should maybe get things rolling again.

[minimonkey]

Tx lady -- wow! Awesome results!

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

I am down 0.6 today to VWT!! I'm 149 today. Lowest I've been since 6th grade. That will be my line if I continue to lose this round. Very happy.

Originally Posted by txladymedic

I'm down another 0.6 lbs weighing 173.6 this morning for a total of 18.8 lbs this round!

Congrats you two and everyone on their losses!

Mini good luck finishing out this round! It's so hard once hunger kicks in.

[DisneyPrincess]

Checking in. Day 2 of juice fast going well.

Not going to be able to run this evening. It's kind of cruddy out I'm going to do a cardio DVD tomorrow and then my weight training Sunday.

[Sasseaux]

Originally Posted by paulabob

Congrats you two and everyone on their losses!

Mini good luck finishing out this round! It's so hard once hunger kicks in.

Yes yes Gratz to the losers!! I am really happy for you all!!!

[Sasseaux]

Originally Posted by txladymedic

I'm down another 0.6 lbs weighing 173.6 this morning for a total of 18.8 lbs this round! !!

Originally Posted by julieboolie

I am down 0.6 today to VWT!! I'm 149 today. Lowest I've been since 6th grade. That will be my line if I continue to lose this round. Very happy.

There, that's better. Gratz!!!

[MaryMouse49]

checking in, up 4 ounces, I am off work next 4 days so hoping to start on the treadmill since doctor gave me the go ahead, problem is, foot starts hurting for no reason, I don't want to do a backwards sommersault in the middle of walking LOL.

[DisneyPrincess]

Ah. Got in my run after all and glad I did. Now I get to relax during nap time tomorrow. I'm so exhausted. Ds is going to bed withing and hour and I'll be right behind him. I'm so glad it's Friday!