~~P3/P4 Simeon's Protocol Week of 2/26~~

[LaraSuzz]

Started this weeks thread hope I did it okay...

Oh man Shelby That really sucks!! Sometimes theres no explanation, like what heppened to me yesterday, I went to Costco and bought a huge piece of Salmon, Grilled it with olive oil, Old Bay and dill... ate some swiss, almonds rum and diet coke and some beef later that night and I'mdown 3 lbs. Seriously when I try I cant manage to do a CD but when I say eff it then I'm down WTH? But I'm not complaining.

[shelbyla]

Thanks Lara! It looks great! I am just feeling really down about this last round. I have no idea what the scale will say today and not sure I want to know. I'm awake. I'm going to go weigh and exercise, and I'll be starting a new round after I finish out this P4. Ugh.

[dbunny]

Thanks for starting the new thread Lara
Hang in there, Shelbyla!
UP 2 pounds today, so 2.5 over LDW. Apparently Tyson chicken wings and I don't like each other. I can still feel the salty chemicals in my body~ Blech. I usually make my own, but was feeling lazy. Have to decide if I will do a GY CD or a steak CD today. Technically, I start P4 on March 2nd, so I will be able to have bits of this and that while on vacation, but I will try to stick to P3 for at least 2 meals a day. T minus 6 days and counting to the Dominican Republic!

[moonriver]

Well done on the loss Lara Suzz!

Shelybla, I wish I knew what the solution might be for you

dbunny - Jealous of your vacation Hope you have a great time!

I am .6 over my window. Not too bad as we ate out with friends last night and I had rolls and lots of nuts during the day. So, egg day it is and then onward and then someday downward.

[LaraSuzz]

Thank you! I gained back .4 of a pound but I don't care lol. Going to buy some more majic salmon today after work lol.

[BaileysGirl]

Afternoon! I am not getting on the scale for a day or two! I was BAD this weekend. Spent a weekend out of town and a big birthday party for my Mom so I over endulged BIG TIME! Planning a CLEAN P3 week and will get the nerve to get back on scale in a day or two and do a modified protein CD if necessary.

B - 2 egg omelete w/ onions, peppers, spinach, cheese, sauasge topped w/ salsa
L - southwestern soup
D - chicken stir fried w/ onions/peppers topped w/ sour cream, salsa & guac

[shelbyla]

Doing a traditional steak day today since I was UP another 1.4 pounds. Closing in on that 150 number--damnit!--I will NOT go there! Send me strength, ladies. I HATE steak days! And frankly if I do this to the T and I get up tomorrow and I haven't lost at least two pounds, I am going to be very very unhappy...

[PenPen13]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Doing a traditional steak day today since I was UP another 1.4 pounds. Closing in on that 150 number--damnit!--I will NOT go there! Send me strength, ladies. I HATE steak days! And frankly if I do this to the T and I get up tomorrow and I haven't lost at least two pounds, I am going to be very very unhappy...

Shelbyla
Have you tried sticking to just protein and fats with very little fruit and vegs. I have STRUGGLED with the round just like you! I have been eating mostly protein and fats with an apple for my fruit. No shakes, chocolate anything (protocol or not), drinking alcohol, lots of water, no nuts, no cheese and yogurt every once in a while.
Sample day:
B: 2 eggs-hardboiled
L: turkey breast roasted / spagetti squash with butter or GY
S: apple
D: protein with little vegs
I cut out my salads with dressing, tomatoes, cucumbers etc. I am just trying to go back to the very basics and start again. I did make some chocolate crack this weekend and I had some nuts......up 4 lbs!! WTH!
I just do not want to do another round of HCG just yet. I am trying to figure out how to balance all this. I know I can't stick to that diet forever, I would fail. But I have to figure out what I can safely eat and what I need to be very careful with. What about a P2 but with more protein and fat then allowed in regualr P2.

[shelbyla]

Thanks pen! Sorry about the bump up. Ugh! This round is seemingly just the pits for a lot of us! Yes, I've tried the P2++ approach as C'Marie calls it. Very little fruit, no starch, good fats, etc. I've cut out everything I can think of for days on end (nuts, cocoa, sweeteners, veg except for P2 veg, dressings, even apples). Nothing seems to be helping. At this point it doesn't appear that anything is stopping the climb. Whether I'm good or bad, doesn't seem to make a difference. (And who wouldn't prefer bad to good, eh? )In any case, I've got another week or so of "official" P4 (ugh) and hopefully my supplies will be here shortly thereafter. I guess it's going to be another round for me after all. I just had some Yerba Mate tea and another 32oz of water (I'm up to a gallon so far today) and I'm going for refills now. I have an afternoon full of meetings so hopefully that will keep me busy enough to not think about food! <grumpgrumpgrump>

[bkm]

Not yet on P3, but soon ... I'm at goal weight (actually 1 pound under this morning) - I want to "maintain" this weight for a few more days before going off the HCG, guess I'm simply afraid of gaining anything back!

It feels so good to be slim once again - but it scares me how I managed to gain weight after my first weight loss (1994 - lost about 80 pounds and maintained for a few years, but then started creeping up about 20 pounds-taking them off-then creeping up again ... ) - I do not want this to happen again!

I've finally given away almost all my larger clothes - and I've made my husband promise to "nudge" me if I start gaining again, but ...

How do you all handle low-term maintenance? I will definitely weigh myself every day, but it seems that in the past I would stay at a weight for a long time, then over a day or two gain maybe 5 or so pounds (which wouldn't come off easily) ...

[PenPen13]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Thanks pen! Sorry about the bump up. Ugh! This round is seemingly just the pits for a lot of us! Yes, I've tried the P2++ approach as C'Marie calls it. Very little fruit, no starch, good fats, etc. I've cut out everything I can think of for days on end (nuts, cocoa, sweeteners, veg except for P2 veg, dressings, even apples). Nothing seems to be helping. At this point it doesn't appear that anything is stopping the climb. Whether I'm good or bad, doesn't seem to make a difference. (And who wouldn't prefer bad to good, eh? )In any case, I've got another week or so of "official" P4 (ugh) and hopefully my supplies will be here shortly thereafter. I guess it's going to be another round for me after all. I just had some Yerba Mate tea and another 32oz of water (I'm up to a gallon so far today) and I'm going for refills now. I have an afternoon full of meetings so hopefully that will keep me busy enough to not think about food! <grumpgrumpgrump>

Hang in there girl I wish I could figure out the right combination myself. I just need to find the right diet low carb, low sugar or NO food intake You have done an amazing job on your wt loss overall, I don't even have that. I am only about 10lbs down from when I started my first round. Right now I feel like I am back where I started before the second round. My clothes feel the same as they did anyway. How did your boyfriend do?

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by PenPen13

Hang in there girl I wish I could figure out the right combination myself. I just need to find the right diet low carb, low sugar or NO food intake You have done an amazing job on your wt loss overall, I don't even have that. I am only about 10lbs down from when I started my first round. Right now I feel like I am back where I started before the second round. My clothes feel the same as they did anyway. How did your boyfriend do?

Ha! His first week he added more protein. After his first week, he started adding back in more things, like brown rice, different veggies, etc. After about 10 days, he stopped taking the hcg (didn't tell me). He's doing basically a VLC diet, with no hcg. I've tried to explain the science behind it (and forwarded all the docs) but what can ya do? Ya can't tell Them anything!

ETA: Steak day accomplished! Arrgh. If this doesn't do anything, I am seriously going mental!

[garnet10]

Originally Posted by bkm

Not yet on P3, but soon ... I'm at goal weight (actually 1 pound under this morning) - I want to "maintain" this weight for a few more days before going off the HCG, guess I'm simply afraid of gaining anything back!

It feels so good to be slim once again - but it scares me how I managed to gain weight after my first weight loss (1994 - lost about 80 pounds and maintained for a few years, but then started creeping up about 20 pounds-taking them off-then creeping up again ... ) - I do not want this to happen again!

I've finally given away almost all my larger clothes - and I've made my husband promise to "nudge" me if I start gaining again, but ...

How do you all handle low-term maintenance? I will definitely weigh myself every day, but it seems that in the past I would stay at a weight for a long time, then over a day or two gain maybe 5 or so pounds (which wouldn't come off easily) ...

Bonnie, this is where I am at as well. Almost at goal, but concerned about the ability to maintain this weight. I'm starting to look into different "low carb" plans, since I think low carb is the way to go.

It's interesting, but Dr. Kwasnieski set up a meal plan whereby you eat daily 1 g protein per kg body weight, then 2.5 to 3.5 times that as fat grams, and only 0.5 g per kg body weight as carbs daily. I don't know if I can eat that much fat daily, and I don't know if I can eat that few carbs and that many fat grams daily for life, but it was interesting.

I read so often about people who regain so much weight after losing so much weight. I really don't want that to be me. I wish I could find a "plan"--it may just have to be "low carb", and I may just have to figure out how many grams of carbs I can eat daily, and start calculating these values out. Because if you eat too much protein, that can be converted to weight gain (fat storage) as well.

[shelbyla]

Garnet - I've done Kwasniewski's plan before. It is really TOUGH keeping protein that low (around 50-75g daily) and fat that high. To give you an idea, the amount of protein is roughly about what you eat on P2 (unless you have a LOT of lean body mass). I think mine was about ~60g. You also get very well acquainted with marscapone cheese (which is almost ALL fat). I did the plan regularly for about 6 months. For what it's worth, it didn't help me lose anything. I maintained ok but no loss. Of course, this was before hcg so my metabolism was all sorts of messed up! If you decide to do it and have questions around tips, tricks, etc. let me know.

[garnet10]

Well, I just read Dave's thread in The Maintain Lane, and he eats based upon the scale in the morning. If he is 2 lbs over his ideal weight, he restricts carbs greatly, if he is within the window, he allows more. I may alter this to not only restricting carbs that day, but also restricting protein that day to just what my body needs (1 g protein/kg body weight), and eating the rest as fat.

I'm going to really have to work on the eating mostly fat--even my beloved Fage has twice as many protein grams as fat grams.

[garnet10]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Garnet - I've done Kwasniewski's plan before. It is really TOUGH keeping protein that low (around 50-75g daily) and fat that high. To give you an idea, the amount of protein is roughly about what you eat on P2 (unless you have a LOT of lean body mass). I think mine was about ~60g. You also get very well acquainted with marscapone cheese (which is almost ALL fat). I did the plan regularly for about 6 months. For what it's worth, it didn't help me lose anything. I maintained ok but no loss. Of course, this was before hcg so my metabolism was all sorts of messed up! If you decide to do it and have questions around tips, tricks, etc. let me know.

We must have just posted at the same time--it does look tough to keep protein that low and fat that high. There's only so much cream and dairy products I can eat!

And dang on the no weight loss!

I think low carb will be especially hard if I find I cannot even eat things like brown rice. I really, truly feel like I need some starches. If I can eat beans and lentils without gaining weight back, I'd be happy.

Such a mystery, this weight loss/maintain journey!

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Started this weeks thread hope I did it okay...

Oh man Shelby That really sucks!! Sometimes theres no explanation, like what heppened to me yesterday, I went to Costco and bought a huge piece of Salmon, Grilled it with olive oil, Old Bay and dill... ate some swiss, almonds rum and diet coke and some beef later that night and I'mdown 3 lbs. Seriously when I try I cant manage to do a CD but when I say eff it then I'm down WTH? But I'm not complaining.

Salmon is kind to me on the scale, too. I think the high protein, high fat might have been treated by your metabolism the same way a correction day is. Either way, excellent!

Originally Posted by dbunny

Thanks for starting the new thread Lara
Hang in there, Shelbyla!
UP 2 pounds today, so 2.5 over LDW. Apparently Tyson chicken wings and I don't like each other. I can still feel the salty chemicals in my body~ Blech. I usually make my own, but was feeling lazy. Have to decide if I will do a GY CD or a steak CD today. Technically, I start P4 on March 2nd, so I will be able to have bits of this and that while on vacation, but I will try to stick to P3 for at least 2 meals a day. T minus 6 days and counting to the Dominican Republic!

Boo Tyson! I'm sorry it bounced the scale. I personally like both Greek yogurt AND steak CDs, so my preference tends toward whichever I have on hand. Enjoy your trip!

Originally Posted by BaileysGirl

Afternoon! I am not getting on the scale for a day or two! I was BAD this weekend. Spent a weekend out of town and a big birthday party for my Mom so I over endulged BIG TIME! Planning a CLEAN P3 week and will get the nerve to get back on scale in a day or two and do a modified protein CD if necessary.

B - 2 egg omelete w/ onions, peppers, spinach, cheese, sauasge topped w/ salsa
L - southwestern soup
D - chicken stir fried w/ onions/peppers topped w/ sour cream, salsa & guac

Don't overindulge! Remember it's rarely worth it good luck going clean for the remainder of the week. You can do it!

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Doing a traditional steak day today since I was UP another 1.4 pounds. Closing in on that 150 number--damnit!--I will NOT go there! Send me strength, ladies. I HATE steak days! And frankly if I do this to the T and I get up tomorrow and I haven't lost at least two pounds, I am going to be very very unhappy...

That sucks, Shelby. You have had a rough round, and for no discernible reason. I'd be incredibly frustrated in your shoes and I think you're a total trooper in how you're handling this. Good luck with the fast-and-steak!

Originally Posted by bkm

Not yet on P3, but soon ... I'm at goal weight (actually 1 pound under this morning) - I want to "maintain" this weight for a few more days before going off the HCG, guess I'm simply afraid of gaining anything back!

It feels so good to be slim once again - but it scares me how I managed to gain weight after my first weight loss (1994 - lost about 80 pounds and maintained for a few years, but then started creeping up about 20 pounds-taking them off-then creeping up again ... ) - I do not want this to happen again!

I've finally given away almost all my larger clothes - and I've made my husband promise to "nudge" me if I start gaining again, but ...

How do you all handle low-term maintenance? I will definitely weigh myself every day, but it seems that in the past I would stay at a weight for a long time, then over a day or two gain maybe 5 or so pounds (which wouldn't come off easily) ...

Long term maintenance is definitely tough. Daily vigilance seems to be what separates the long term losers from the retainers. Correct even slight regains quickly and don't let things slide. Have a livable plan that you enjoy and that lends itself to your health. Adapt if things change. That's my best advice and how I've managed to maintain my losses thus far, through things like pregnancy and general life stress. Weight loss and maintenance are quite similar as far as I'm concerned. It is just a balancing act, as opposed to a consistent deficit.

You kept off most of your weight for a LONG time, that is a huge victory! I think correction days are the tool that will enable you to manage those slight regains that don't want to come off easily. Simeons is pretty vehement that the weight comes off more easily the more quickly it is dealt with.

You can stay slim, I'm sure of it. You have all the ingredients and a proven history. It is now a matter of finding that balance you can live with

Originally Posted by garnet10

Well, I just read Dave's thread in The Maintain Lane, and he eats based upon the scale in the morning. If he is 2 lbs over his ideal weight, he restricts carbs greatly, if he is within the window, he allows more. I may alter this to not only restricting carbs that day, but also restricting protein that day to just what my body needs (1 g protein/kg body weight), and eating the rest as fat.

I'm going to really have to work on the eating mostly fat--even my beloved Fage has twice as many protein grams as fat grams.

Dave's methods and mine are similar and I think it is a behavior 'naturally slender' people tend to do naturally. Eat lighter when weight comes on, indulge a bit when things are good. Like a seesaw back and forth, seeking that sweet spot in the middle. I've been charting my weight trend line for a few years and when it comes to maintaining, differences of macronutrients or 50-100 calories a day make all the difference in the overall stability of the pattern. Adjust when the trend line begins trending upward, adjust if it slips downward, keep on keeping on if things are nice and balanced between the two. The weight window of 2 lbs on either side of the happy number is incredibly wise and I've taken it to heart.



As for me, I blogged extensively about this but I am down another 7.5 inches this week for a total of 15.5 inches off my body in two weeks of TTap exercises! I was at 178.2, so inside my sweet spot Now that my period is over I have also stabilized, even with exercise water retention, in my original weight window. I'm up a pound of muscle mass, at least, from the beginning of P3, so I'm in the higher half of my window, but my body is shrinking, my strength is increasing, and correction days have served me very well. Praise the Lord! I hope all future rounds go as well!

I have included a serving of rice (1/2 cup or so) a day and a little creamier cheese (Brie, drool!) with no ill effect. P3 seems to have locked my set point around 178 and my body seems to want to stay there, so I couldn't be more thrilled. I'm eating about 2000 calories a day right now and generally feel great, but I am pumped for another P2 (even though I'll miss my creamer and fatty meats during the next round ). A week and a half or so of P4 left and counting...

[C'Marie]

I did fine today, only having protein (3 chix drumsticks, coffee, water) until I got home from work at 10 pm. Yes, 10 pm. Then I ate:
6-8 Greek garlic-stuffed olives
LOTS of Pork rinds
3 pcs turkey bacon (no sugar, no nitrates)
2 tbls sour cream
shot of tequila/lime/stevia

Yes, I was a salt montster. I can already feel my fingers swelling. Yikes. Just really wanted SALT and all of it was low carb at least but I know this day won't be the tequila correction day I was looking for ! LOL

[PenPen13]

Originally Posted by garnet10

Well, I just read Dave's thread in The Maintain Lane, and he eats based upon the scale in the morning. If he is 2 lbs over his ideal weight, he restricts carbs greatly, if he is within the window, he allows more. I may alter this to not only restricting carbs that day, but also restricting protein that day to just what my body needs (1 g protein/kg body weight), and eating the rest as fat.

I'm going to really have to work on the eating mostly fat--even my beloved Fage has twice as many protein grams as fat grams.

My problem is if I go down on the scale a little I feel a little more freedom "oh I can eat that" and then the next day or two "bam!"
I have to admit that I am more strict when the scale is not where I want it to be which is most days lately.

Ok new subject...what exercise do you guys do for FLABBY BUTT AND LEGS? I walk three nights a week about 2 1/2 miles but I think my body is getting used to it. I do yoga once a week and try to ride my bike when I can (not that often) I have been having problems with my knees (going to the doctor today about it finally) so I don't want to run. Anyone know of a good exercise that really helps with these problem areas??....that they enjoy doing? Anyone ever tried the Kumba exercise dance videos?

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Doing a traditional steak day today since I was UP another 1.4 pounds. Closing in on that 150 number--damnit!--I will NOT go there! Send me strength, ladies. I HATE steak days! And frankly if I do this to the T and I get up tomorrow and I haven't lost at least two pounds, I am going to be very very unhappy...

I'M PRAYING FOR YOU! I can't wait to hear how it went!!

I'm up two pounds this am so that puts me 3 over LIW AGAIN. Wholly Molly.

So its been a two week break and the plan was to go back on p2 March 1 but
a. I'm scared cuz I had my period for 2 weeks last time, it may have been cause of a change in pills... and
b. I'm turning 41 on April 7th and I need to be thinner to be happy with myself. I have no self confidence right now.
c. It's been 2 weeks and I want to load if I start again, maybe one day to get it out of my system?

I dont know what to do. If I loose 25 pounds on 23 day short round it will really be pleasing to me. I can always stop if I dont feel well.
At 200 lbs I'm a size 10, right now I'm a 16 at 250. Seems like a lot but I'm very muscly and have a large frame. I'm only 5'4'' but no one ever believes me because I look tall, lol. I know I need to loose. this last round was the most successful ive ever been in keeping close to my LIW.

Help! I need encouragement to keep going and get to my goal...

[shelbyla]

Lara, I think it's going to be you, me and C'Marie! Steak day netted me a measly pound. Injections shipped today so when they get here (with the supplies which are shipped separately ), I'll be going back to P2. Not to be selfish just 'cause I want company on my next round ... but if you go longer than 2 weeks you NEED to load again. Maybe finish up your official P3 of 3 weeks then cycle back to P2? You still have time to get in a short round if you go the extra week. You can do it! WE can do it!

[BaileysGirl]

Morning! Weighed today and am at 192 so I'm at my 2lb over LDW. Clean eating continues! I know the overendulging isn't worth it! I had a tummy ache and bad gas for a day. My body telling me it didn't like the junk! Plus I just keep looking in the mirror and telling myself how good it feels for my pants to be loose! Also having people call me SKINNY which by no means am I skinny! I guess I'm skinny compared to 4 months ago!

Have a great day girls! Good luck to those struggling hope today the scale is down for you!

B - 2 scrambled eggs w/ cheese & 1/3 pc of banana bread
S - peaches
L - tuna salad w/ celery/ranch & spinach dip
D - stir fry chicken fajitas w/ guac/srcrm/salsa

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Lara, I think it's going to be you, me and C'Marie! Steak day netted me a measly pound. Injections shipped today so when they get here (with the supplies which are shipped separately ), I'll be going back to P2. Not to be selfish just 'cause I want company on my next round ... but if you go longer than 2 weeks you NEED to load again. Maybe finish up your official P3 of 3 weeks then cycle back to P2? You still have time to get in a short round if you go the extra week. You can do it! WE can do it!

OMG, that's maddening. At least you gave it your best shot.

LET'S DO THIS!! Count me in!! I can shoot for my first vlcd monday March 5th? That means I can load during the weekend...

Sidebar: What do you think of chicken breasts in the crockpot with tomatillos for p3 meals? Like shredded chicken? Are tomatillos technically tomatoes? lol. Otherwise it will back to my roast beast, spinach, and apples... but it works. lol

[MarieTN]

Good morning ladies! I hope you all don't mind me joining you all in this thread. I guess I'm still considered in P4?

I found out that my thyroid is enlarged and I have several nodules on the right side. I have an appointment with a surgeon next Tuesday, so we'll see how it goes. I had wanted to start my 3rd round, but have decided to wait until after I see the surgeon next week before I start planning my next round.

I have been struggling over the past several weeks and had gained about 8 pounds. I have lost 4 of those pounds and am currently 4 pounds over my LIW.

[heatherwagnon]

Don't mind me, reading up on y'alls thread LIW today was 125.0 couldn't get any closer to goal i guess , I'll see you peeps very soon! Why am I having such a hard time remembering if the 72 hours starts with today? or does it start tomorrow? why do i feel stump dumb?!!

[dbunny]

Originally Posted by heatherwagnon

Don't mind me, reading up on y'alls thread LIW today was 125.0 couldn't get any closer to goal i guess , I'll see you peeps very soon! Why am I having such a hard time remembering if the 72 hours starts with today? or does it start tomorrow? why do i feel stump dumb?!!

72 hours from your last dose for Rx... 48 for Hhcg. Planning your first meal??

Steak day netted me 3 pounds, so now .5 from the top of my window. I would like a little more wiggle room, so going to stick with GY today and chicken and asparagus for dinner tonight. Had my daily morning shake (which I have everyday, regardless of CD) ~ I love it! It is the easiest way for me to get in lots of protein in the morning. I am going to add some sort of fiber in there and try to trick my SO into thinking it is the same...

Shelbyla..

[C'Marie]

@dbunny, what is your shake? and you have it even if you have a steak day? 'esplain, please!

I am nursing a headache so am playing hookey from work a bit, drinking coffee in the dark and deciding what to eat today. I probably am going to do a GY day to hopefully get a little further down. It does appear that I am not really gaining quickly now, so maybe I can almost stabilize. I do not expect to go into any P4 eating at all, unless my peeps here (shelby, Lara) decide to do another P2 together - then I may load one day and it WILL include some good yummy potstickers!

I find it infinitely easier to conduct my life around a P2 when I am at work then when trying to juggle the demands of work and eating P3 with correction days. Weird I know but it works for me so even though I'm working LOTS of hours it is easier. I don't usually do anything rogue but I may add a little protein here and there, maybe some extra eggwhites once in awhile, especially if I'm doing PT for the hip at the same time.

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by PenPen13

My problem is if I go down on the scale a little I feel a little more freedom "oh I can eat that" and then the next day or two "bam!"
I have to admit that I am more strict when the scale is not where I want it to be which is most days lately.

Ok new subject...what exercise do you guys do for FLABBY BUTT AND LEGS? I walk three nights a week about 2 1/2 miles but I think my body is getting used to it. I do yoga once a week and try to ride my bike when I can (not that often) I have been having problems with my knees (going to the doctor today about it finally) so I don't want to run. Anyone know of a good exercise that really helps with these problem areas??....that they enjoy doing? Anyone ever tried the Kumba exercise dance videos?

My TTap, all the way. It tones the tummy and lower body extremely quickly and without a lot of time (though not without a fair bit of effort! It's intense!). I recommend it more highly than anything else I've tried. Only Callanetics comes close.

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by C'Marie

@dbunny, what is your shake? and you have it even if you have a steak day? 'esplain, please!

I am nursing a headache so am playing hookey from work a bit, drinking coffee in the dark and deciding what to eat today. I probably am going to do a GY day to hopefully get a little further down. It does appear that I am not really gaining quickly now, so maybe I can almost stabilize. I do not expect to go into any P4 eating at all, unless my peeps here (shelby, Lara) decide to do another P2 together - then I may load one day and it WILL include some good yummy potstickers!

I find it infinitely easier to conduct my life around a P2 when I am at work then when trying to juggle the demands of work and eating P3 with correction days. Weird I know but it works for me so even though I'm working LOTS of hours it is easier. I don't usually do anything rogue but I may add a little protein here and there, maybe some extra eggwhites once in awhile, especially if I'm doing PT for the hip at the same time.

Headaches suck, I've gotten a few lately, too! That's interesting that p2 is easier on your schedule than p3, but your hours sound crazy. And I agree the corrections days just suck when you have to do so many of them. I have another p2 coming up in two weeks and I am struggling with whether to eat really P4 for loading or not - I want a pizza badly, and yet not badly enough to suffer from the effects of the wheat on my body

Decisions, decisions! Hang in there!

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by MarieTN

Good morning ladies! I hope you all don't mind me joining you all in this thread. I guess I'm still considered in P4?

I found out that my thyroid is enlarged and I have several nodules on the right side. I have an appointment with a surgeon next Tuesday, so we'll see how it goes. I had wanted to start my 3rd round, but have decided to wait until after I see the surgeon next week before I start planning my next round.

I have been struggling over the past several weeks and had gained about 8 pounds. I have lost 4 of those pounds and am currently 4 pounds over my LIW.

I'm sorry to hear about you thyroid! I hope the appointment and subsequent treatment is easy and painless for you

The regain also sucks, but life happens and sometimes weight creeps on. You can do this, but be kind to yourself until some of the health craziness settles down, yes?