P3/P4 Simeons Protocol Week of 02/13/12

[moonriver]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Hmm not bad Moon~... I wish I'd thought of egg day for breakfast. I can always do that when I get home or tomorrow. Thanks.

No problem. I am currently doing an egg day as I had an enjoyable Candy...err Valentine's day....

[dbunny]

Originally Posted by garnet10

What the heck is going on today! I thought I would be nice and full, eating 8 oz full fat Fage and heavy cream in my coffee this morning, and yet by 11:30 I was really starting to feel like I needed to have lunch!

I'll try to eat a bigger breakfast tomorrow. I just had my chef's salad for lunch, and now I'm hoping I can make it through work until I can eat dinner!




That's a great idea for the shake! I had been having for dinner every day during the VLCD something similar using the non-fat cottage cheese in place of the Fage and heavy cream. It's a great way to get spinach in. I'm glad you posted this, because I didn't even think of this for P3. I will probably throw in 1 Tbsp unsweetened cocoa with Truvia to get a bit of a chocolatey flavor.

Has your husband been tested for Celiac? Mine had acid reflux which completely resolved when he was diagnosed and switched to eating gluten-free. I only ask because if eating low carb helps, it might be because he is eating less gluten.

Garnet10~ I think he has issues with sugar, dairy, and gluten, but he is very defensive about it.. he does not like to be denied, and no Oreos and no milk= being denied. It is like having a fussy child sometimes. He literally makes himself sick from overeating starchy, crappy foods. He would rather take 3 different kinds of antacids a day than address it. It makes me really sad, but I can only watch him hurt himself, and try not to contribute to his bad habits. Plus, it is even more frustrating that he used to weigh 180 when he raced bicycles and ate whatever he wanted. Now he is 245 and still thinks he can eat the same, but he does not exercise at all. Sorry for the novel/unload, but it is just so frustrating for me.

[xxhellokittyxx]

DH and I are on our 4th day of P3. It feels so good to be eating fats again! Loving the ribeye, bacon, avocado, etc.

I am currently .6 under my LDW, but DH is a full 2lbs. He asked me what he should do if he goes farther under that number and I didn't know what to tell him. Could anyone here comment on that? (He's hoping the answer is to drink beer! LOL)

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by xxhellokittyxx

DH and I are on our 4th day of P3. It feels so good to be eating fats again! Loving the ribeye, bacon, avocado, etc.

I am currently .6 under my LDW, but DH is a full 2lbs. He asked me what he should do if he goes farther under that number and I didn't know what to tell him. Could anyone here comment on that? (He's hoping the answer is to drink beer! LOL)

As a rule, you should not go 2 over or 2 under as it will interfere with the muscle mass/fat distribution. Best thing is to maintain as fast as you can. If you start going too under then add more veggies, if you start gaining too much add more protein less veggies.

Originally Posted by moonriver

No problem. I am currently doing an egg day as I had an enjoyable Candy...err Valentine's day....

lol!! Cute.

Thank God I lost 3 lbs from my steak day. So I'm not within 2 lbs and really gonna be careful. The steak was a little tough so it wasnt very enjoyable.

Have a good day all.

[BaileysGirl]

P4D2 and weighed in at 191! Woot!

[shelbyla]

All right. I need some help from my people here. I did a cd yesterday, took a detox bath, and was UP 1.2 this morning. LDW was 141.4, I saw 139 for one day, and today I am up to 146. AFTER A CD!!!!! I am getting really really discouraged here. I don't want to go back on this damn diet but it's not looking like I have much choice... Eating clean P3 today, sticking with it through the weekend, but I'm losing my mojo. Help? Please?

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

All right. I need some help from my people here. I did a cd yesterday, took a detox bath, and was UP 1.2 this morning. LDW was 141.4, I saw 139 for one day, and today I am up to 146. AFTER A CD!!!!! I am getting really really discouraged here. I don't want to go back on this damn diet but it's not looking like I have much choice... Eating clean P3 today, sticking with it through the weekend, but I'm losing my mojo. Help? Please?

You're really only up 2 lbs over your last dose weight. I think sometimes the body holds on to water and stress doesnt help either. You're doing exactly what you should be, eating clean, relax for today.

[LaraSuzz]

Trouble After Treatment
When abnormal fat is no longer being put into circulation either because it has been consumed or because immunity has set in, this is always felt by the patient as sudden, intolerable and constant hunger. In this sense, the HCG method is completely self-limiting. With HCG it is impossible to reduce a patient, however enthusiastic, beyond his normal weight. As soon as no more abnormal fat is being issued, the body starts consuming normal fat, and this is always regained as soon as ordinary feeding is resumed. The patient then finds that the 2-3 lbs. he has lost during the last days of treatment are immediately regained. A meal is skipped and maybe a pound is lost. The next day this pound is regained, in spite of a careful watch over the food intake. In a few days a tearful patient is back in the consulting room, convinced that her case is a failure.
All that is happening is that the essential fat lost at the end of the treatment, owing to the patient's reluctance to report a much greater hunger, is being replaced. The weight at which such a patient must stabilize thus lies 2-3 lbs. higher than the weight reached at the end of the treatment. Once this higher basic level is established, further difficulties in controlling the weight at the new point of stabilization hardly arise.

[KarenOhio]

Shelby - I feel your pain. Actually, I'm living it. My last dose was Saturday. I still had the 500 calories on Sunday and Monday. I was clean, but still gained a pound and a half on those two days. Tuesday was my first P3 day. Wednesday, I was up another pound, so did a steak day. Today - didn't even lose an ounce. Still up 2 1/2 pounds from Saturday. I'm frustrated too. I did a short round from halloween through Thanksgiving. My mentality was different then... I just figured whatever I lost, I'd be ahead of the game when I got serious on my second round in January. I did a 40 day round this time and lost the same amount as I did the first time (on 23 days). I knew that I'd have 1 more round after this one... now it's looking like more. I'm trying to look at the big picture now. I'm down 36 pounds. That's more than if I didn't do this at all. I'm feeling better. So... I'm TRYING to focus on the positives!!! Depending on what the scale says tomorrow, I may increase my "number" to what it is today (since that appears to be where the scale wants to be).

Karen

[miamiloca]

Checking in, people! How's everyone doing? Looks like we have some people struggling this week. I have not been around much as ive been busy with work and kids.
Hang in there, everyone! I am embarrassed to say how much weight i gained over my birthday/disney trip little extravaganza. And it seems to be a true gain. I dont know what is wrong with me this week. I cant stop grabbing little bites of stuff i know im not supposed to eat. The old fat girl habits are still in me i suppose, and they are trying to come back! I know this is going to be a life long battle for me, and i need to accept that. I do get tired of thinking about what i can/cant eat every day, but this is how it has to be for me.
Anyway--enough of the debbie downer stuff! Sorry guys! I am going to beat this thing! I didnt lose 100lbs for nothing and i refuse to gain it back! Time for me to get a better grip on control....and i know this!

[garnet10]

Originally Posted by dbunny

Garnet10~ I think he has issues with sugar, dairy, and gluten, but he is very defensive about it.. he does not like to be denied, and no Oreos and no milk= being denied. It is like having a fussy child sometimes. He literally makes himself sick from overeating starchy, crappy foods. He would rather take 3 different kinds of antacids a day than address it. It makes me really sad, but I can only watch him hurt himself, and try not to contribute to his bad habits. Plus, it is even more frustrating that he used to weigh 180 when he raced bicycles and ate whatever he wanted. Now he is 245 and still thinks he can eat the same, but he does not exercise at all. Sorry for the novel/unload, but it is just so frustrating for me.

I'm glad you were able to find my response--I just looked back and realized I didn't "quote" it properly!

Men! My husband didn't follow the diet properly at all in the beginning, and I stopped nagging (it never worked for me anyway), but I started bringing some gluten free items into the house (Glutino makes a decent oreo substitute). It was very gradual, but he started to notice he felt differently.

My husband also had cabinets filled with Tums! Now he never uses them. I totally understand your frustration.

Originally Posted by xxhellokittyxx

DH and I are on our 4th day of P3. It feels so good to be eating fats again! Loving the ribeye, bacon, avocado, etc.

I am currently .6 under my LDW, but DH is a full 2lbs. He asked me what he should do if he goes farther under that number and I didn't know what to tell him. Could anyone here comment on that? (He's hoping the answer is to drink beer! LOL)

Funny comment on the beer! Having done this for a year and a half, and seeing the wild swings in weight that can occur in P4, I think he is fine, as long as he is eating enough to satisfy his appetite. If he tries to gain weight, he may later regret it in P4, when adding in carbs causes a bump up. Just a rogue opinion.

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Trouble After Treatment
When abnormal fat is no longer being put into circulation either because it has been consumed or because immunity has set in, this is always felt by the patient as sudden, intolerable and constant hunger. In this sense, the HCG method is completely self-limiting. With HCG it is impossible to reduce a patient, however enthusiastic, beyond his normal weight. As soon as no more abnormal fat is being issued, the body starts consuming normal fat, and this is always regained as soon as ordinary feeding is resumed. The patient then finds that the 2-3 lbs. he has lost during the last days of treatment are immediately regained. A meal is skipped and maybe a pound is lost. The next day this pound is regained, in spite of a careful watch over the food intake. In a few days a tearful patient is back in the consulting room, convinced that her case is a failure.
All that is happening is that the essential fat lost at the end of the treatment, owing to the patient's reluctance to report a much greater hunger, is being replaced. The weight at which such a patient must stabilize thus lies 2-3 lbs. higher than the weight reached at the end of the treatment. Once this higher basic level is established, further difficulties in controlling the weight at the new point of stabilization hardly arise.

I love re-reading sections of P&I, and thank you for posting this. I was prepared for my bump up today, after my first day of P3, up 1.6 pounds from yesterday (but I also stuffed myself yesterday.)

I can NEVER, ever, do the first day of P3 correctly. I always tell myself I will go slowly, but oddly I was famished yesterday!

B: 8 oz full fat Fage greek yogurt w/frozen raspberries
heavy cream in coffee
L: chef's salad with Marie's blue cheese dressing
S: packet of salted cashews
D: Linda's Low Carb chicken/sausage casserole (too many servings of this)
heavy cream in coffee
heavy cream in chai tea
S: 8 oz full fat Fage greek yogurt w/frozen raspberries
2 cocoa crack
1/2 glass red wine

I just could not stop eating after I got home!

Even this morning, after my breakfast, I didn't feel stuffed (the way I used to). Hopefully this hunger will settle down soon.

On the bright side, I AM SO WARM TODAY!!! Woo hoo!! So tired of being cold. It just feels so great. And the fatigue is dissipating as well.

Hope everyone is doing well!

[shelbyla]

Thanks guys! (especially Lara! ) I wish this was 2-3 pounds, seriously. LDW was 141.4 so the top of the window should be 143.4. I "adjusted" LDW up to 143 because in week one of P3 my body looked like it was trying to settle there, with 145 the top of my window. Yesterday I was right at the tippy top of my window and I had already cooked chicken thighs so did a CD. I just didn't expect a gain. I'm actually seeing and feeling the gains in my body now and my average P3 weight just keeps going up. I am going to go off the rails today and eat more--I've been keeping it right around 2000 calories--and see if it's possible I'm not eating enough.

Miami and Karen - to you guys. Can we just all say a collective "ARRRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!"

[dbunny]

Shelbyla~ Hang in there... perhaps you should play with your ratios? What works one round doesn't necessarily work on the other... could the detox bath cause swelling? I know it is supposed to draw out impurities, but I alway feel swollen after hot baths.
Actually, not sure why I am giving advice as I am up .5 over my window after ANOTHER encounter with too much wine last night. So, GY CD for me today, and NO WINE!

[C'Marie]

After my steak day yesterday, on protocol, steak for dinner, nothing during the day except coffee and only the first cup with hnh, I'm down 2.4 back into my window, .4 above LIW. We'll see how long it lasts! LOL

@shelby, I'm sorry, hon, I definitely know what that is like! If you eat more and then lose, we'll know for sure you weren't eating *enough* -- that's happened to me more than once, but I can tell you after gaining before Thanksgiving that it's frightening to gain. But, you really could be "too" thin after your last round. Maybe what LaraSuzz posted from P & I holds for you - hcg is self-limiting. I know that wouldn't be the case for me, but at your height and that weight and the fact that you're in a size 4? You could do another round and see what that nets you, and then see what you think. I don't think I'd do it. I think I'd be happy stabilizing 5 pounds above your LDW if that's what it took to make your body comfortable with it.

[marion93]

OMG! The wild ride of P3! I am sorry that so many are having gains.

@Shelby: WTH? It just doesn't make sense! Maybe what LaraSuzz posted is right. I hate to see you getting stressed out by this...it would drive me bonkers! I think your plan for eating clean P3 and uped calories, has merit. Also, are you getting enough sleep? That always makes me gain.

Maybe it is time to approach it on another angle. This weekend, maybe spend some time appreciating your body and giving it some love. Sounds nutty, but it could work! Maybe there is some emotional issue coming up and your body is responding by trying to protect you by adding weight? I know that some of my weight gain had an emotional issue component, and i know that there are others who have the same thing. If there is an emotional issue coming up, maybe resolve to "be" with it and work through it, and then tell your body that it is ok and that you are safe now.

Last shot advice. I doubt that there is a physical answer as I am pretty sure you are doing everything correctly on that front.

[marion93]

btw, speaking of crazy P3's...my fiance, Jim Is all over the place. He was out of his window, but I wasn't prepared to send him with a correction day lunch, so he did an all protein day. He went down but not by enough, so he elected to try a GY day. He was hungry and it was hard for him but he received an over 3 lb drop! So we were happy, because we were having a small send-off for a friend of ours, who is moving from LA to Florida. So, last night we had some wine and in spite of the cocoa crack I made, I saw him pop a TRUFFLE in his mouth! I'm like...Honey! WTH?!

So of course, he is out of his window again. But I didnt have correction day stuff to send him with, so he just got P3 stuff. I think I am stressing over his weight more than he is. Ironically, I am stable as a rock. For instance, I am .4 over LIW, even after last nights wine shenanigans. However, I can't even enjoy it, since I am in charge of Jim's meals....ugh!

[garnet10]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Thanks guys! (especially Lara! ) I wish this was 2-3 pounds, seriously. LDW was 141.4 so the top of the window should be 143.4. I "adjusted" LDW up to 143 because in week one of P3 my body looked like it was trying to settle there, with 145 the top of my window. Yesterday I was right at the tippy top of my window and I had already cooked chicken thighs so did a CD. I just didn't expect a gain. I'm actually seeing and feeling the gains in my body now and my average P3 weight just keeps going up. I am going to go off the rails today and eat more--I've been keeping it right around 2000 calories--and see if it's possible I'm not eating enough.

Miami and Karen - to you guys. Can we just all say a collective "ARRRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!"

Shelbyla, I really feel for you, because I went through this a couple of rounds ago, and it is just the most distressing thing. It's not like you don't know what you are doing, you know fully well how to do P3/P4 successfully, but then it just doesn't happen.

If you are still experiencing weight gain, then it would seem like at this time, you did not stabilize. When this happened to me, I stubbornly continued the 3 weeks of P3 and then 5 weeks of P4 (done mostly P3) because I wanted to follow protocol, but I became the "incredible gaining woman" and just could not stop gaining weight. It was scary. I wasted an entire round's worth of weight loss regaining it during those weeks.

If I had to do it over again, and if this happens during this round's P3, I am going to go right back into the hCG and VLCD, because then I would think that something just went wrong and I hadn't stabilized. (Unless of course, I would find the VLCD unbearable at that point, then I would just stick it out and wait.)

I hope whatever you decide feels right to you. Good luck!

[LaraSuzz]

Any time girlfriend! Hugs!

[katiesmemaw]

Shelbyla, your post reads almost exactly like NicoleT's when she was fighting to stabilize!!! She went the Leptin reset route, I think. Don't know anything about it but know that seemed to work for her. I hate this for any of us but I especially hate it for you because you have been there for so many of us when we were struggling!!!
I wish you the best and pray that as mysteriously as this struggle has come that it will disappear for you.
Betty

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by katiesmemaw

Shelbyla, your post reads almost exactly like NicoleT's when she was fighting to stabilize!!! She went the Leptin reset route, I think. Don't know anything about it but know that seemed to work for her. I hate this for any of us but I especially hate it for you because you have been there for so many of us when we were struggling!!!
I wish you the best and pray that as mysteriously as this struggle has come that it will disappear for you.
Betty

Thanks Betty! I appreciate your (and everyone's!) thoughts on this. Tried it. Unfortunately, it didn't seem to help. I'm just going to hang in there for now. Day 21 is tomorrow for me and I haven't been closer to LDW than a pound or so above and I've been hovering in the 3-5 pounds above range for a while. Saturday usually shows me a decent loss but I am toying with the cycling idea if the trend continues after this weekend. I just don't know. If it went up and then down again I could probably get comfortable. But it seems to be inching up and that's not what I like to see. I am seriously thinking about the "no abnormal fat left to lose theory." I guess it's possible but I am certainly not stick thin by any means. Size 4's aside (seriously??? who is MAKING pants these days? ), I still have heavy thighs and a good bit of "pinch an inch" business going on on my hips, back and arms. I think, if anything, this may be related to an old setpoint. I was at 147 for about 3 years right after I first went low-carb about 7 years ago and was at that same weight for several years prior to trying low-carb. I just want wiggle room, damnit! Again, appreciate all your thoughts!

[xxhellokittyxx]

Lara & garnet- thanks for your input. I will tell him to add in more veggies.

[garnet10]

The one thing I have learned, from my own experience as well as the experiences of others on this forum, is that oftentimes what is happening makes no logical sense whatsoever!

I went from a 10 day stall 2 weeks ago, to a disappointing interruption where I inexplicably overate, to a round where I lost more weight in the first 10 days than I have ever lost in any round, despite being very close to goal, when I thought my weight loss would slow.

Some things we experience here just make no sense! And I've learned to accept that.

I am very concerned about what is going to happen when I decide I'm done losing weight--I'm very curious to see how I will be able to eat.

I am grateful today that I was far less hungry than yesterday. Whew! That was worrying! I didn't need to snack today, and did not overdo it on Linda Sue's Chicken/Sausage Casserole. I didn't overeat today, so I'm curious to see where I wind up on the scale tomorrow. I won't be able to weigh after that for the next 3 days, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I am stable.

Never in a milion years could I imagine that I would ever be 125 again.

[katiesmemaw]

Shelby, there may definitely be something to Dr. S "no abnormal fat left to lose theory." You are beautiful and a knock out right where you are!! Try not to stress and just give yourself as much UP wiggle room as you can live with.
I think your comment:
"I think, if anything, this may be related to an old setpoint. I was at 147 for about 3 years right after I first went low-carb about 7 years ago and was at that same weight for several years prior to trying low-carb. I just want wiggle room, damnit!"
may be exactly what this is all about.
Hope today's reading is better for you.
Betty

[katiesmemaw]

Originally Posted by garnet10

The one thing I have learned, from my own experience as well as the experiences of others on this forum, is that oftentimes what is happening makes no logical sense whatsoever!

I went from a 10 day stall 2 weeks ago, to a disappointing interruption where I inexplicably overate, to a round where I lost more weight in the first 10 days than I have ever lost in any round, despite being very close to goal, when I thought my weight loss would slow.

Some things we experience here just make no sense! And I've learned to accept that.

I am very concerned about what is going to happen when I decide I'm done losing weight--I'm very curious to see how I will be able to eat.

I am grateful today that I was far less hungry than yesterday. Whew! That was worrying! I didn't need to snack today, and did not overdo it on Linda Sue's Chicken/Sausage Casserole. I didn't overeat today, so I'm curious to see where I wind up on the scale tomorrow. I won't be able to weigh after that for the next 3 days, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I am stable.

Never in a milion years could I imagine that I would ever be 125 again.

garnet10......AWESOME!! This is amazing, isn't it. Every day I am just in awe. I, too, never thought I would be the weight I am right now. I love hcg!!!
Betty

[quirkyrabbit]

AHA! This is where I need to be!! My last injection was Saturday, 2/11 and I weighed 129.5. Since then, I've been down to 127.5, and as high as 130! Today, despite the champagne and brownies last night (mmmm!) I weigh 129.5. MY goal for the next 6 weeks is to remain below 130, and, in April, return to Round 2 to see if I can release another 10 lbs and stay looking good.

Hugs to all and glad to be here.

[LaraSuzz]

Aw bloody hell now I'm 1 over!!!!! Even tho I lost 3lbs on my steak day I was still at the top of my window, Grrr!!! I'm thinking of doing a vodka ciggarette day hahahaha!! And I dont even smoke! I think that I ate too much yesterday. And even though there are no fillers or bad stuff im positive that the culprit was a Hebrew National hot dog, without the bun of course. Darn you delicious weiner.

Ok so I happen to be a fan of thickness and curves, and I would never want to be "skinny" just healthy and yes meaty. Just wanted to put my two cents in. Love your curves no matter how curvy.

[garnet10]

Still 124.6 today! So relieved because I snacked on 8 oz Fage full fat greek yogurt w/fro raspberries before going to bed. I plan to eliminate this evening snacking because it is WAY unhealthy, just a bad idea all around.

Originally Posted by katiesmemaw

garnet10......AWESOME!! This is amazing, isn't it. Every day I am just in awe. I, too, never thought I would be the weight I am right now. I love hcg!!!
Betty

Betty, the most amazing thing about this whole process, is after years and years of trying to lose weight, working out hard, the sweat, the tears, this was so freakin' easy! I haven't even begun to exercise yet!

I had already "resolved" my destiny of being a plus sized woman. Purchased a new wardrobe, had my rings re-sized, and then...heard about hCG. It is wonderful serendipity how I found out about it. Many good things in life happen that way!

I actually purchased size 8P pants the other day and they fit! I never "saw" myself as a size 8 (in my head, I'm still size 10--I was so happy to get there!)

Betty, you are such a positive presence on this forum! I really want to thank you so much for being here.

Me, too! I LOVE hCG!

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by katiesmemaw

Shelby, there may definitely be something to Dr. S "no abnormal fat left to lose theory." You are beautiful and a knock out right where you are!! Try not to stress and just give yourself as much UP wiggle room as you can live with.
Hope today's reading is better for you.

Thanks Betty! You are a super sweetheart!

Originally Posted by quirkyrabbit

AHA! This is where I need to be!!

Hugs to all and glad to be here.

You got it kid! Welcome to P3 land!

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Darn you delicious weiner.

Ok so I happen to be a fan of thickness and curves, and I would never want to be "skinny" just healthy and yes meaty. Just wanted to put my two cents in. Love your curves no matter how curvy.

Bahahahahaha! Darn you delicious weiner--that's hilarious! Teehee. Truly made me lol! Thanks Lara!

I have no issues with "curves" or "meat" and certainly don't want to look too skinny. I know we get obsessed with the number on the scale--guilty!--but but I just WANT to be in the low 140's... <pout> Ok so after eating 2400+ calories yesterday, my weight was down a half pound-ish today but given the fluctuations of the last 3 weeks, that could just be a fluke. I am going to do a couple of things for the next week and see if this helps both my weight and my state of mind. I'll give it a week and see where it goes. I I keep going upupup, I may indeed have a reset issue and may need to do another couple of weeks of the hcg to stabilize me.

1. Since I seem to be an average of this P3 3 pounds above LDW and an average weight of 144, I am going to adjust my LDW UP to 144 (from 141.3 and then 143), and do cd's only if I go OVER 146.

2. Try to eat in the 2300-2400 calorie range. I was HUNGRY last night, damnit, so I ATE! Not bad stuff but a lot of it.

3. Get my butt in gear and work out more. I've been slacking a bit lately and that hasn't helped.

I am going wine tasting this weekend with girlfriends so it will be good to blow off some steam and drink some tasty wine.

Happy Friday everyone and thanks for putting up with my meltdown yesterday! Love you guys!

[dbunny]

Hey all! After GY CD day, I am down 3.5 pounds, so I am currently 1 pound below LDW.. Yay!

I think I am going to laser wine.. Never lasered before, but dang it, I love wine and do not want to gain every time I glance at a glass ~ or drink half a bottle...

[C'Marie]

Well, after my steak day Wednesday losing me 2.4 to only .4 above my LIW, today's rebound weight is 3 pounds UP from that - so higher yet. ARG. I am retaining water like crazy, rings are tight tight when they are loose on me usually. Yesterday I had chicken legs and salad for lunch, then I had an omelet out at a restaurant that is usually completely safe for me for dinner, and then there was an almond butter incident at home later at night. Sigh. But I know that I didn't truly overeat so am wondering what this gain is, unless it is simply water.

Debating doing a fat fast day today to see if I can get things "moving" and then do a steak day tomorrow if need be still. Gotta really hit the water now. It is too early in my P3 to do an "adjustment" to my LIW but this weight (at the 3 pounds above) was my setpoint for a long time so I'm a little afraid that once I stay here for a few days that'll be it. I only landed a few pounds below that at the end of this round. As a consequence, maybe I'll do another week of P3 and then go back to P2 before my 14 days are up and call this an interrupt.