Trail Blazers and Path Takers - Page 6

ellenalesa · 02-16-2012, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dazygyrl

i'm glad i have continued to weigh even if i DON'T like the numbers i am seeing right now. knowing that number does motivate for better choices.

My all time high was over 210. Maybe 214, not really sure. I got down to 174ish and maintained within 10 pounds of that, which for me, is great.

A few weeks ago I felt my clothes get tight, all of a sudden. Like, 5 minutes ago, they were fine, and now they're TIGHT. Sometimes that happens to me w/PMS. Checked the calendar: no PMS. Just fat.

Got on the scale, it was 191. Started hhcg.

The funny thing is, for a while I hadn't been weighing myself. THAT's how this happened. I am disappointed that I allowed this to happen. I NEED to weigh myself and keep myself accountable.

It's funny how we can go unconscious with food, isn't it?

I'm just grateful I caught it before it was worse. In the past, it would have been a much bigger relapse.

TerriMM · 02-16-2012, 05:25 AM

Good Morning!
Well I did. I was only up .60. So although I'm not happy about that I don't feel defeated either. And it will be very motivating to see it disappear. Thanks for the shoulders!

TerriMM · 02-16-2012, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dazygyrl

oh, bud! i'm so sorry for your tough day. that's kinda how my tuesday was. for no good reason at all it all goes down the pot! but i told myself tomorrow is a clean slate. yesterday was better. and i felt more in control. even indulged in a few things but only A BITE or TWO rather than lots.

I was thinking after I posted that I've had indulgences fairly lately and really gained some weight. Why did this bother me so much? I think it was just the mindless eating for no good reason. Why? Like we've talked about before, I wasn't sad, stressed or anything, I just felt like it

And once I started it was like the little evil imp was released. My mom used to call that kind of attitude "imp of Satan". I guess that’s appropriate.

dazygyrl · 02-16-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TerriMM

I was thinking after I posted that I've had indulgences fairly lately and really gained some weight. Why did this bother me so much? I think it was just the mindless eating for no good reason. Why? Like we've talked about before, I wasn't sad, stressed or anything, I just felt like it

And once I started it was like the little evil imp was released. My mom used to call that kind of attitude "imp of Satan". I guess that’s appropriate.

isn't that what's most frustrating...the just because i know it will taste good thing.

0.6 is nothing! happy for you it wasn't more.

beachagain · 02-16-2012, 06:36 AM

good morning ladies

today is D1VLC...at least I'm finished loading

I finally have some time to sit, chillax and catch up with everyone

I like that Terri...Imp of Satan...it describes it so well...heck, it describes me too well sometimes

going to go catch up on the posts...bye bye til later

TerriMM · 02-16-2012, 07:01 AM

Welcome back Cristen!

dazygyrl · 02-16-2012, 07:29 AM

ladies...could you please pray for my hubby....he's very down in the dumps right now and it hurts my heart.

thank you.

beachagain · 02-16-2012, 07:33 AM

haha...always here, always here...just not always posting....struggling with that inner demon

most of the time (you know him at the imp of Satan)

but...back on the wagon (so to speak)! I stayed pretty stable all this time, but still was going back and forth over that window by a few ounces...finally just jumped back on before I had any real problems...but...

I about had a heart attack this morning...I gained 6 pounds loading!!!

...starting point today is 146.5

....(I think it was the ice cream and cheese cake last night before bed)

If history repeats itself...I'll drop most of that in the next day or two...but I also only (NORMALLY) gain like 4 pounds

...but hey... the ice cream and cheese cake was totally worth it!! I was afraid because I wasn't sure I had gotten enough fat...but I feel fabulous today

so the last effort last night was the right move

TerriMM · 02-16-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dazygyrl

ladies...could you please pray for my hubby....he's very down in the dumps right now and it hurts my heart.

thank you.

I just spent some time this morning and will continue throughout the day. Thanks for asking

TerriMM · 02-16-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by beachagain

haha...always here, always here...just not always posting....struggling with that inner demon

most of the time (you know him at the imp of Satan)

but...back on the wagon (so to speak)! I stayed pretty stable all this time, but still was going back and forth over that window by a few ounces...finally just jumped back on before I had any real problems...but...

I about had a heart attack this morning...I gained 6 pounds loading!!!

...starting point today is 146.5

....(I think it was the ice cream and cheese cake last night before bed)

If history repeats itself...I'll drop most of that in the next day or two...but I also only (NORMALLY) gain like 4 pounds

...but hey... the ice cream and cheese cake was totally worth it!! I was afraid because I wasn't sure I had gotten enough fat...but I feel fabulous today

so the last effort last night was the right move

Sometimes I wonder if this loading thing isn't just plain counterproductive. So glad you feel good today, great way to start! And you know you're right, a couple days and it will be gone.

I kind of like having ol' Imp of Satan to blame things on

beachagain · 02-16-2012, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dazygyrl

ladies...could you please pray for my hubby....he's very down in the dumps right now and it hurts my heart.

thank you.

...I will...sorry I didn't see it earlier...I got in a hurry to go pick up my sick kid at school

Praying for sunshine in his world

dazygyrl · 02-16-2012, 09:31 AM

thank you, friends...very appreciated.

dazygyrl · 02-16-2012, 09:46 AM

just got off the phone with a happier dh.

he got an encouraging phone call and is feeling better. THANK YOU for praying with me.

shirleychef · 02-16-2012, 05:12 PM

I'm sitting here CRYING

... seriously.. I just posted on the FF thread that I blew it today.... was feeling SOOOO rotten then read your posts... and feel like I'm human again... not a failure.... but a learner.... like you guys.

We are never gonna be perfect foodies.... but hopefully each struggle will bring us to a place where we are stronger and can have more victories over our struggle with our food issues. Dazygyrl.... thanks for being the strong one and only having a bite or two.... someday I'll be there!

You guys blessed me with your transparency.

Thanks!

CherylB · 02-16-2012, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

ladies...could you please pray for my hubby....he's very down in the dumps right now and it hurts my heart.

thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

just got off the phone with a happier dh.

he got an encouraging phone call and is feeling better. THANK YOU for praying with me.

Just now catching up on this thread. So glad to see he's feeling brighter! I'll ay a prayer anyway, just for insurance.

Terri, don't beat yourself up. I caved today and I wasn't even tempted! I just was so happy with how things are going right now in my life that I decided to have a "reward night." I know I'll burn off a lot of what I ate today at the farm tomorrow. No sweat!

to everyone else. Tired tonight and have little umph. Time to kick back but I still have my journal thread to post on. First prayer for Carrie's hubby, then my journal.

TerriMM · 02-16-2012, 08:57 PM

Well I’m back on plan today. I’m sure I’ve had more calories than I really should have. I brought more volume today to insure I didn’t stray, I wasn’t even tempted. I also planned an up day to hopefully kick things into gear. I haven’t counted yet and I’m seriously thinking of giving myself the night off as a reward. I’m not sure if I’ll be up or down on the scale tomorrow but I feel strangely at peace about it. I know this is only a stepping stone on my journey and I’m headed the right direction. Remind me of the later, will ya?

My sister is having a family luncheon tomorrow and is serving Chief Salad because she knows I’m dieting. I bought a beautiful box of multi-grain gourmet crackers before I started fat fast. I’m taking those (what a great way to get them out of the house) and some Chocolate Cheddar with only 1 gram of sugar I sliced on a pretty plate. I intend to eat entirely low carb and as high a fat as possible at lunch and as high a fat as possible for breakfast and dinner. And I plan to have a great time.

I've been thinking about all our cheats of late and one REALLY big thing occurs to me. How different our cheats are then they were before the HCG experience and how fast we're moving on and leaving them behind. We’re different people! Be careful my friends, we’re starting to think like skinny people. I believe anyone who saw our bloated cheating faces looking back at us in the mirror would gasp and say “Wow you look terrific, how have you lost so much weight?”

Have a wonderful night, I'm very thankful for you all!

dazygyrl · 02-17-2012, 04:33 AM

well, i simply don't have the same reaction to UD's, terri, as you do. i had a more up day...98% LC and pretty high fat a few bites of carby things but nothing horrible by any means and am up a pound.

we head to the hospital for a big treatment for noah today. the pattern has become kind of a free for all while at the hospital and i don't like that. will do my best to stay more in control there.

so i am sitting about 6 pounds higher than i would like...3 pounds from the top of my personal maintenance window. i really don't want to do hcg...although i was thinking of how i could do it and not get so mentally drained from the lack of fat. i can handle a few days of VLC then i start to get a bit obsessive about food i do NOT like that at all and i have come to the conclusion it's from not eating fat. WHY i sailed thru a 37-38 day round my very first time i will never understand. but anymore, it just doesn't work...

TerriMM · 02-17-2012, 05:31 AM

I know what you mean. I think it was easier the first time because we didn't know what we were in for. Well I'm up 1.4 today. This puts me at 127.2. Not really surprised, but disappointed. I think after my luncheon day today I'm going to drop back down into VLC with DH and see if I can't just jump back to goal and be done with it. I have to give him credit. He just weathered a three day stall and broke through this morning. I was kind of waiting to see if he'd cave before I went back to VLCD. Not sure I could do it if he wasn't at the moment. I'd be more confident if it wasn't for the fact I'm heading into HH week. But if I could just get a little of those first week losses, this might work.

I hope you have a good day today. Maybe use this as an excuse to go to that favorite health food store and get some sun butter like you did in the beginning. I’m trying to think of what high fat food, that will spoil, I need to eat up today. Not too big a deal, I’ll only do VLC for another week at the most and then DH will be at the end of his 23 day round and I’ll just transition with him to P3.

I’ve started reading on the EFGT thread. I think the way I’ve done P3 the last two times was pretty much like that. I started out balancing the fat and protein like Deb, Shelby, etc. recommended. But I seem to do better with a higher fat percentage and I stabilized really well. I think I’ll go that way again. I think I can commit to VLC fully thinking “it’s only a week”. Might be something to consider. That would probably be all you’d need to if you didn’t load with any carbs.

Have a blessed day, bud. Hope DH is doing better.

dazygyrl · 02-17-2012, 06:14 AM

oh we generally take lots of food as there are fridge's in every room.

i was going to take some of my high fat yogurt and almond butter would be divine.

short of cream, butter, and cream cheese...it's kinda sorta hard to eat high fat without too much protein, ya know?

i have some almond butter my sister made me awhile ago i will check to see if it is still good.

your plan sounds good. i have thought about a week of hcg....but then i also wonder if i would JUST have a few GOOD days of GOOD portion control, i *bet* the weight would come off, ya know?? i just need to buckle down. wayyyy back when i lost a bunch of weight eating basically SAD but with GREAT portion control....portion control has always been my "magic" of sorts, but i do tire of being on constant watch...it feels soooo obsessive to me, but then it may have to just be that way the rest of my life.

TerriMM · 02-17-2012, 06:31 AM

Yeah, portion control. Why is “I can have whatever I want, if I just exercise portion control” such a terrible thing? I mean think of people who have food issues that can’t have certain things. Oh well. I just try to think “if I do what I’ve always done, I’ll get what I’ve always got” and just keep making small permanent changes along the way that really have added up. Mostly adding good things, like yogurt for instance, now I don’t have room for ice cream. And when I do have an ice cream I rather miss my yogurt. All and all I’m in a far better place, health and weight wise, then I have ever been in my life. Speaking of yogurt, I found some French cultured cream 2T, 100 calories, 11 grams of fat. Add a couple of those to your yogurt and not only does it creamy it up, but balances out the protein too. Oh I just thought of it with almond butter, yummy! Maybe a little cocoa too, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

privatediva · 02-17-2012, 08:27 AM

Just a quickie before I hit the sewing. David is down to 193 today. 3 lbs from goal. 47 lbs in...get this...47 days. Officially "normal" BMI. Looks terrific in his new pair of loose 36 inch waist pants (I only let him buy two pair for now)...I think he will probably settle into a 34 by the time he is in P4. Looks like P2 is nearly over at our house

For that, I am EXTREMELY grateful!!

beachagain · 02-17-2012, 08:57 AM

yay Deb...that is fantastic!!

Terri and Carrie: I just love reading your insights and thoughts about maintenance...it is all so individual...don't you think? I am still trying to find my niche, but this last round I did was one of my better ones...but in the end, maintenance was a harder thing...I never made it too far above my window...but I hated the struggle.
My goal is to have a cheat-free P2 and see what P3 and 4 brings me

But I honestly do not know what the right food combo is for me...I will probably do the leptin reset during P3 to see if that is a factor

TerriMM · 02-17-2012, 09:38 AM

Wow Deb! He looks 15 years younger. Hubba Baby, no wonder you're smiling!

Boy Cristen you're not kidding. I'll be joining you on P2 tomorrow. Let's see if we can't make it to goal and really stabilize this time.

shirleychef · 02-17-2012, 10:43 AM

WOW!!! Privatediva, Tell hubby CONGRATULATIONS for a job well done!!

I'm sure your support and encouragement have been invaluable to him!! He looks GREAT!! So cool!

dazygyrl · 02-17-2012, 11:34 AM

wow, deb! he's done awesome!

CherylB · 02-17-2012, 12:20 PM

He really HAS done awesome! He looks amazing.

dazygyrl · 02-17-2012, 05:36 PM

ladies....i think i am getting my mojo back! thanks to a very helpful message i received about how someone else is doing their thing.

i am think i am going to try jumping back on to hcg...very rogue of course.

700-800 cals WITH fat!!

here is a menu i came up with as an example:

B: 1 egg cooked in .5 T butter, coffee w/ 1/4 c HH

L: canned chicken (1.5 servings) w/ 1 T light miracle whip; 1 oz cheddar cheese

S: 4oz 93/7% ground beef, 1 wedge of queso fresco & chipotle laughing cow cheese (YUUMMM!)

snack: (for whenever) 1oz cream cheese

cals: 730 for the whole day (i will allow up to 800 tho)

that menu is totally doable for me!! i am really starting to get excited about trying this. after all, the only thing i have to lose is the 6-8 lbs i have crept up!!

pffft....

so there you have it...the ever changing mind has changed directions ONCE again!

shirleychef · 02-17-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dazygyrl

ladies....i think i am getting my mojo back! thanks to a very helpful message i received about how someone else is doing their thing.

i am think i am going to try jumping back on to hcg...very rogue of course.

700-800 cals WITH fat!!

here is a menu i came up with as an example:

B: 1 egg cooked in .5 T butter, coffee w/ 1/4 c HH

L: canned chicken (1.5 servings) w/ 1 T light miracle whip; 1 oz cheddar cheese

S: 4oz 93/7% ground beef, 1 wedge of queso fresco & chipotle laughing cow cheese (YUUMMM!)

snack: (for whenever) 1oz cream cheese

cals: 730 for the whole day (i will allow up to 800 tho)

that menu is totally doable for me!! i am really starting to get excited about trying this. after all, the only thing i have to lose is the 6-8 lbs i have crept up!!

pffft....

so there you have it...the ever changing mind has changed directions ONCE again!

Love this menu. Do you know if this person has a calorie ceiling? How about the foods, is it mainly fat and protein? How is this person losing? Have they stabilized? Think I can ask any more quesitons??

I'm cutting my calories tomorrow but not sure if I'm going to stick with the no fat simeons approach or have some fat each day... and am toying with fat & protein vs. the strict simeons but still having a limit on the calories.

I want to lose 10-15 more pounds and want to be done by March 8... just not sure which way I want to do it yet. So tomorrow I have a rogue day planned too:

break: no fat cottage cheese spinach, strawberry smoothie and coffee with cream
lunch: 3.5 oz lean burger with 1 onion
dinner: 3.5 oz Bnless, sknless chicken and apple
This comes out to 693 calories.

I might even stick with the lower fat style for a bit and see how I'm losing then change it up along the way if I feel I need to.

dazygyrl · 02-17-2012, 06:59 PM

i think her calorie ceiling is similar to mine and she is happy with her losses...still in losing mode tho. not entirely sure of her menu.

i think your menu looks good!

my coffee with 1/4 c H & H is a 20oz mug. i'll drink half of it then add more coffee to it...so i'm drinking quite a bit of coffee with that 1/4 cup of H & H.

shirleychef · 02-17-2012, 07:16 PM

Thanks for the info. I try to stretch my cream too. :-) I usually end up drinking 2 - 24 oz mugs in the morning. One when I'm doing breakfast for the kiddo's and one when I'm out milking the girls, or when I come back in from milking if I forget to take it out with me.

I think I'll see how week 1 goes just adding in another protein and keeping out the starch, then go from there. If I can I'll delete the extra protein, I'll see how I'm feeling.

I'm not going to weigh for a few days... didn't stick with my FF rules today AGAIN and had another Fat FEAST.

So hopefully the fat load will set me into quick loss mode on the lower cal/fat hcg days.

02-16-2012, 06:36 AM	#155
beachagain Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,023 Gallery: beachagain Stats: Goal!!! WOE: low/good carbs & hhcg Start Date: re-September 2006	good morning ladies today is D1VLC...at least I'm finished loading I finally have some time to sit, chillax and catch up with everyone I like that Terri...Imp of Satan...it describes it so well...heck, it describes me too well sometimes going to go catch up on the posts...bye bye til later Last edited by beachagain; 02-16-2012 at 07:24 AM..

02-16-2012, 07:33 AM	#158
beachagain Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,023 Gallery: beachagain Stats: Goal!!! WOE: low/good carbs & hhcg Start Date: re-September 2006	haha...always here, always here...just not always posting....struggling with that inner demon most of the time (you know him at the imp of Satan) but...back on the wagon (so to speak)! I stayed pretty stable all this time, but still was going back and forth over that window by a few ounces...finally just jumped back on before I had any real problems...but... I about had a heart attack this morning...I gained 6 pounds loading!!!...starting point today is 146.5....(I think it was the ice cream and cheese cake last night before bed) If history repeats itself...I'll drop most of that in the next day or two...but I also only (NORMALLY) gain like 4 pounds ...but hey... the ice cream and cheese cake was totally worth it!! I was afraid because I wasn't sure I had gotten enough fat...but I feel fabulous today so the last effort last night was the right move __________________ Goal: Maintenance Last edited by beachagain; 02-16-2012 at 07:39 AM..

02-16-2012, 05:12 PM	#164
shirleychef Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Central Wisconsin Posts: 614 Gallery: shirleychef Stats: 235/154/140's WOE: hCG for loss, JUDDD currently Start Date: April 25, 2011	I'm sitting here CRYING... seriously.. I just posted on the FF thread that I blew it today.... was feeling SOOOO rotten then read your posts... and feel like I'm human again... not a failure.... but a learner.... like you guys. We are never gonna be perfect foodies.... but hopefully each struggle will bring us to a place where we are stronger and can have more victories over our struggle with our food issues. Dazygyrl.... thanks for being the strong one and only having a bite or two.... someday I'll be there! You guys blessed me with your transparency. Thanks!

02-17-2012, 08:57 AM	#172
beachagain Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,023 Gallery: beachagain Stats: Goal!!! WOE: low/good carbs & hhcg Start Date: re-September 2006	yay Deb...that is fantastic!! Terri and Carrie: I just love reading your insights and thoughts about maintenance...it is all so individual...don't you think? I am still trying to find my niche, but this last round I did was one of my better ones...but in the end, maintenance was a harder thing...I never made it too far above my window...but I hated the struggle. My goal is to have a cheat-free P2 and see what P3 and 4 brings me But I honestly do not know what the right food combo is for me...I will probably do the leptin reset during P3 to see if that is a factor Last edited by beachagain; 02-17-2012 at 08:59 AM..

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02-16-2012, 05:25 AM	#152
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,436 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Good Morning! Well I did. I was only up .60. So although I'm not happy about that I don't feel defeated either. And it will be very motivating to see it disappear. Thanks for the shoulders!

02-16-2012, 07:01 AM	#156
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,436 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Welcome back Cristen!

02-16-2012, 07:29 AM	#157
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,538 Gallery: dazygyrl	ladies...could you please pray for my hubby....he's very down in the dumps right now and it hurts my heart. thank you.

02-16-2012, 09:31 AM	#162
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,538 Gallery: dazygyrl	thank you, friends...very appreciated.

02-16-2012, 09:46 AM	#163
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,538 Gallery: dazygyrl	just got off the phone with a happier dh. he got an encouraging phone call and is feeling better. THANK YOU for praying with me.

02-16-2012, 08:57 PM	#166
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,436 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Well I’m back on plan today. I’m sure I’ve had more calories than I really should have. I brought more volume today to insure I didn’t stray, I wasn’t even tempted. I also planned an up day to hopefully kick things into gear. I haven’t counted yet and I’m seriously thinking of giving myself the night off as a reward. I’m not sure if I’ll be up or down on the scale tomorrow but I feel strangely at peace about it. I know this is only a stepping stone on my journey and I’m headed the right direction. Remind me of the later, will ya? My sister is having a family luncheon tomorrow and is serving Chief Salad because she knows I’m dieting. I bought a beautiful box of multi-grain gourmet crackers before I started fat fast. I’m taking those (what a great way to get them out of the house) and some Chocolate Cheddar with only 1 gram of sugar I sliced on a pretty plate. I intend to eat entirely low carb and as high a fat as possible at lunch and as high a fat as possible for breakfast and dinner. And I plan to have a great time. I've been thinking about all our cheats of late and one REALLY big thing occurs to me. How different our cheats are then they were before the HCG experience and how fast we're moving on and leaving them behind. We’re different people! Be careful my friends, we’re starting to think like skinny people. I believe anyone who saw our bloated cheating faces looking back at us in the mirror would gasp and say “Wow you look terrific, how have you lost so much weight?” Have a wonderful night, I'm very thankful for you all!

02-17-2012, 04:33 AM	#167
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,538 Gallery: dazygyrl	well, i simply don't have the same reaction to UD's, terri, as you do. i had a more up day...98% LC and pretty high fat a few bites of carby things but nothing horrible by any means and am up a pound. we head to the hospital for a big treatment for noah today. the pattern has become kind of a free for all while at the hospital and i don't like that. will do my best to stay more in control there. so i am sitting about 6 pounds higher than i would like...3 pounds from the top of my personal maintenance window. i really don't want to do hcg...although i was thinking of how i could do it and not get so mentally drained from the lack of fat. i can handle a few days of VLC then i start to get a bit obsessive about food i do NOT like that at all and i have come to the conclusion it's from not eating fat. WHY i sailed thru a 37-38 day round my very first time i will never understand. but anymore, it just doesn't work...

02-17-2012, 05:31 AM	#168
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,436 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	I know what you mean. I think it was easier the first time because we didn't know what we were in for. Well I'm up 1.4 today. This puts me at 127.2. Not really surprised, but disappointed. I think after my luncheon day today I'm going to drop back down into VLC with DH and see if I can't just jump back to goal and be done with it. I have to give him credit. He just weathered a three day stall and broke through this morning. I was kind of waiting to see if he'd cave before I went back to VLCD. Not sure I could do it if he wasn't at the moment. I'd be more confident if it wasn't for the fact I'm heading into HH week. But if I could just get a little of those first week losses, this might work. I hope you have a good day today. Maybe use this as an excuse to go to that favorite health food store and get some sun butter like you did in the beginning. I’m trying to think of what high fat food, that will spoil, I need to eat up today. Not too big a deal, I’ll only do VLC for another week at the most and then DH will be at the end of his 23 day round and I’ll just transition with him to P3. I’ve started reading on the EFGT thread. I think the way I’ve done P3 the last two times was pretty much like that. I started out balancing the fat and protein like Deb, Shelby, etc. recommended. But I seem to do better with a higher fat percentage and I stabilized really well. I think I’ll go that way again. I think I can commit to VLC fully thinking “it’s only a week”. Might be something to consider. That would probably be all you’d need to if you didn’t load with any carbs. Have a blessed day, bud. Hope DH is doing better.

02-17-2012, 06:14 AM	#169
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,538 Gallery: dazygyrl	oh we generally take lots of food as there are fridge's in every room. i was going to take some of my high fat yogurt and almond butter would be divine. short of cream, butter, and cream cheese...it's kinda sorta hard to eat high fat without too much protein, ya know? i have some almond butter my sister made me awhile ago i will check to see if it is still good. your plan sounds good. i have thought about a week of hcg....but then i also wonder if i would JUST have a few GOOD days of GOOD portion control, i bet the weight would come off, ya know?? i just need to buckle down. wayyyy back when i lost a bunch of weight eating basically SAD but with GREAT portion control....portion control has always been my "magic" of sorts, but i do tire of being on constant watch...it feels soooo obsessive to me, but then it may have to just be that way the rest of my life.

02-17-2012, 06:31 AM	#170
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,436 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Yeah, portion control. Why is “I can have whatever I want, if I just exercise portion control” such a terrible thing? I mean think of people who have food issues that can’t have certain things. Oh well. I just try to think “if I do what I’ve always done, I’ll get what I’ve always got” and just keep making small permanent changes along the way that really have added up. Mostly adding good things, like yogurt for instance, now I don’t have room for ice cream. And when I do have an ice cream I rather miss my yogurt. All and all I’m in a far better place, health and weight wise, then I have ever been in my life. Speaking of yogurt, I found some French cultured cream 2T, 100 calories, 11 grams of fat. Add a couple of those to your yogurt and not only does it creamy it up, but balances out the protein too. Oh I just thought of it with almond butter, yummy! Maybe a little cocoa too, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

02-17-2012, 08:27 AM	#171
privatediva Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 2,544 Gallery: privatediva Stats: 128 (R2ldw 128) 5'7" WOE: healthful, delicious low carb Start Date: 6/28/2011 (started HCG) maintaining since 9/2011	Just a quickie before I hit the sewing. David is down to 193 today. 3 lbs from goal. 47 lbs in...get this...47 days. Officially "normal" BMI. Looks terrific in his new pair of loose 36 inch waist pants (I only let him buy two pair for now)...I think he will probably settle into a 34 by the time he is in P4. Looks like P2 is nearly over at our house For that, I am EXTREMELY grateful!!

02-17-2012, 09:38 AM	#173
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,436 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Wow Deb! He looks 15 years younger. Hubba Baby, no wonder you're smiling! Boy Cristen you're not kidding. I'll be joining you on P2 tomorrow. Let's see if we can't make it to goal and really stabilize this time.

02-17-2012, 10:43 AM	#174
shirleychef Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Central Wisconsin Posts: 614 Gallery: shirleychef Stats: 235/154/140's WOE: hCG for loss, JUDDD currently Start Date: April 25, 2011	WOW!!! Privatediva, Tell hubby CONGRATULATIONS for a job well done!! I'm sure your support and encouragement have been invaluable to him!! He looks GREAT!! So cool!

02-17-2012, 11:34 AM	#175
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,538 Gallery: dazygyrl	wow, deb! he's done awesome!

02-17-2012, 12:20 PM	#176
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	He really HAS done awesome! He looks amazing.

02-17-2012, 05:36 PM	#177
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,538 Gallery: dazygyrl	ladies....i think i am getting my mojo back! thanks to a very helpful message i received about how someone else is doing their thing. i am think i am going to try jumping back on to hcg...very rogue of course. 700-800 cals WITH fat!! here is a menu i came up with as an example: B: 1 egg cooked in .5 T butter, coffee w/ 1/4 c HH L: canned chicken (1.5 servings) w/ 1 T light miracle whip; 1 oz cheddar cheese S: 4oz 93/7% ground beef, 1 wedge of queso fresco & chipotle laughing cow cheese (YUUMMM!) snack: (for whenever) 1oz cream cheese cals: 730 for the whole day (i will allow up to 800 tho) that menu is totally doable for me!! i am really starting to get excited about trying this. after all, the only thing i have to lose is the 6-8 lbs i have crept up!! pffft.... so there you have it...the ever changing mind has changed directions ONCE again!

02-17-2012, 06:59 PM	#179
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,538 Gallery: dazygyrl	i think her calorie ceiling is similar to mine and she is happy with her losses...still in losing mode tho. not entirely sure of her menu. i think your menu looks good! my coffee with 1/4 c H & H is a 20oz mug. i'll drink half of it then add more coffee to it...so i'm drinking quite a bit of coffee with that 1/4 cup of H & H.

02-17-2012, 07:16 PM	#180
shirleychef Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Central Wisconsin Posts: 614 Gallery: shirleychef Stats: 235/154/140's WOE: hCG for loss, JUDDD currently Start Date: April 25, 2011	Thanks for the info. I try to stretch my cream too. :-) I usually end up drinking 2 - 24 oz mugs in the morning. One when I'm doing breakfast for the kiddo's and one when I'm out milking the girls, or when I come back in from milking if I forget to take it out with me. I think I'll see how week 1 goes just adding in another protein and keeping out the starch, then go from there. If I can I'll delete the extra protein, I'll see how I'm feeling. I'm not going to weigh for a few days... didn't stick with my FF rules today AGAIN and had another Fat FEAST. So hopefully the fat load will set me into quick loss mode on the lower cal/fat hcg days.