~~Rogue and Alternative HCG plans for week of 1/29/12~~

[catjrow3]

Cheryl, glad you had a good day at the barn yesterday, very nice! I too agree with the rest of the group, you are the cheerleader and everyone appreciates you!! (me included)

Melanie, glad you are up and about. I also think that the 4 lbs are probably not going to "show" up... Its more for you and how you feel than your actual exterior look. Hope you continue to feel better!! No girl scout cookies for me, even if they are low carb!! UGH!!!

Jackie, great job on making it through the day... I made it through 2 almost fully fasting days. I had a small salad on both days for the last 2 days, but going normal protocol today, no more attempted fasting....500 calories even will seem like alot today!!

Paula, sorry the scale is not your friend today. It will probably go away again in a day or two... You have this licked now...

To the others, good job on the loss belfry... and Luna on the inches!!

As for me.... I am hoping for a good round. Trying to keep my head on straight, so after 2 VLCDs (or almost fasting days that they were really) down another 3.8, for 10.6 in 2 days.. Oh if only I was not up that much before... Thats okay, my legs are feeling better without some of that bloat and TOM is fully underway, so hopefully a bit more of a swoosh will follow with that too (or could have been part of the already swoosh)...we will see. Hope you all have a nice HUMP day...

[Sasseaux]

Okay, I'm fed up with no and super slow losses. I called my doctor and am going in for paid HCG round today.

[msgirl]

Morning ladies!!!

Luna - yay on the NSV!!! You deserve it!

Disney - you can do this!!!

Melanie - take it easy - sometimes pushing too hard after an illness can cause it to come right back!

paula - yay for you in taking the water weight in stride!!

cat - I am still in awe!!!! I too can gain 6 pounds just by looking at some foods - but then I still have NEVER dropped that much at once.

Gre - Here's hoping you have a marvelous day!

I think that covers everyone so far....

Well, after two days low, low, low calorie I dropped .2 today. My body is really not wanting to budge. I feel thinner - my waist, chest, etc. looks thinner. So, that's a plus

Okay, I have a small dilemma. Today is hubby's bday and for lunch he wants Five Guys. If you have never been there, I will fill you in quickly - they have NOTHING healthy. So, I am trying to decide do I go and just bring some water and enjoy the company or do I go and eat a bunless burger with just lettuce? drink tons of water, and eat little to nothing the rest of the day. Keep in mind I have been right at 400-480 calories the last two days.

Not really sure what to do - so any help is appreciated.

This VLCD31 for me - Last dose day....

[catjrow3]

Sue... what is the difference in a paid version of HCG.. vs what you are doing now??

Msgirl... thanks... I guess its normal for me in the first few days but it stops very quickly. Its not a consistent thing with me at all!! and I was fasting for these last 2 days, so might rebound as well... and.... you are alot closer to your goal weight than me.. that matters too...

As for Five guys... even the burgers are super duper high in calories and fat. I would recommend not eating it if you can help it, unless you are okay with the consequences of doing it.... make take some sliced apples to much on or celery or something? but then again, you might get lucky and have a loss from it.

[msgirl]

hmmm....I could take in celery or apples and my water.

That is an option.

I know the burgers are high in fat as well - I heard they were sirloin and calories fall somewhere around 330. I have cut out all cream in my coffee, and anything even resembling fat. So, it could definitely send me over the edge. I am not sure if I am prepared for a 5 pound gain just from the sodium. Or, as you mentioned it might work to stimulate a loss...ugh I hate decisions!

Any other thoughts????

[Sasseaux]

Cat, now I'm doing homeopathic drops. With the doc I get Rx Hcg - he gives this one big dissolvable pellet for in the morning. Plus, he told me last time if I didn't lose on the pellet he would give me the shots. Also, he "weighs" you every week on this machine that tells you all kinds of info like your body fat ratio and whether you are dehydrated. He makes you measure, too. I probably just need that discipline. Plus the backup of the shots if I don't dang well start losing. I'm so impatient to lose.

I've been in P2 since the day after Christmas and have only lost a net 3 pounds. this is f'd up pardon my French. I think it is the hormone implant. But his wife/secretary says the Hcg will work with the implant so I'm going in today.

[Sasseaux]

MS you are dedicated. I admire that. Take along your own food and if they say anything to you tell them to stuff it. Sorry that's just the mood I'm in today.

I went to the office birthday party yesterday and stared at the cake. It looked good. I didn't have any. Its not that good anyway.

[catjrow3]

I went and looked up five guys burgers
calories/calories from fat/fat/sat fat/cholesterol/sodium/carbs/proteins
Hamburger 700 400 43 19.5 125 430 39 39
Cheeseburger 840 500 55 26.5 165 1050 40 47
Bacon Burger 780 460 50 22.5 140 690 39 43
Bacon Cheeseburger 920 560 62 29.5 180 1310 40 51

EDit... this probably includes the bun..could not find without the bun.

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

Cat, now I'm doing homeopathic drops. With the doc I get Rx Hcg - he gives this one big dissolvable pellet for in the morning. Plus, he told me last time if I didn't lose on the pellet he would give me the shots. Also, he "weighs" you every week on this machine that tells you all kinds of info like your body fat ratio and whether you are dehydrated. He makes you measure, too. I probably just need that discipline. Plus the backup of the shots if I don't dang well start losing. I'm so impatient to lose.

The reason I asked, I order my Rx from India and i bet its a ton cheaper than it is from the doctor... I paid like 60 for 3 vials of it, and then order the bac water and needles from here...

[msgirl]

Okay - well that answers my question - the bun could not be more than 200 calories so 500 calories for a patty won't do!

Celery and apples are coming with me

[Sasseaux]

Cat thanks and I will keep that in mind. I'm ascared to give myself a shot though.

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

Cat thanks and I will keep that in mind. I'm ascared to give myself a shot though.

I was deathly scared too, its soo easy it would amaze you! It does not even remotely hurt. It took me 10 minutes the first time, with several starts and stops, but it really is so simple with those tiny little needles!

[Trishagrrl]

Paula- sorry to hear the scale isn't being kind to you today, but it's so much fun to fit into clothes that haven't fit for a long time! Who cares how much you weigh, if you look and feel how you want to

Msgirl - ugh, I hate when social things come up while on P2. What about trying a fat fast day? Would you be able to pull that off going out to eat? Best of luck on whatever you do!

I dropped a pound today after a good fat fast day yesterday. Doing another one today. Just kinda taking it day by day. I think soon I'm going to stop the hhcg and just continue to keep very low carb, high fat, and moderate protein and up the calories from what I'm eating now. Wonder if I'd still be able to drop a little bit of weight eating like that?

[pugswin]

Hi All!

no time to read the thread, I'll come back later, promise! Stopped by to post a link for DisneyP who mentioned she wants another baby: How To Convince My Husband To Have Another Child | Being Pregnant

Anyway, I totally flailed last week and reloaded the past weekend with the idea that I would not give in .. its not working!
The good news is on Monday I was 181.5 (I was as high as 186.5 last week) so I've lost the initial load weight.. but yesterday I was 183.5 and today 182.5.

I'm just not getting into this time. I need to spend more time here with you all!

see you soon!

[maggie82]

Originally Posted by DisneyPrincess

Good morning. Well after about a week totally off plan I'm starting back on the hHCG today. While Im tired of dieting, I'm also tired of being fat! I'm not weighing for a while. I know my weight is up a LOT. I don't need the scale to make it worse, the fact that my fat jeans are tight is bad enough. So starting today with a nice protocol day and just moving on. I refuse to spend much more time dieting so I just want to get this over with

This is literally exactly how I feel! I was even torn after my "week break" if I want to do this diet anymore or just make my own similar version and get my a** back in the gym. I so miss it, i used to be a usper gym rat. body pump classes ans cardio and i miss it. I almost feel less healthy losing this weight, even though I got super small, i felt less tone. And now that ive gained some back its even worse. So my mind is everywhere!! Do hhcg but go semi rouge? do hhgc to the T get it over with?? Do a regular low cal/carb diet and kick butt in the gym? my mind literally changes every 5 min and i feel insane. If I never would have dont this diet I wouldnt know how it really does work..but i wouldnt be going insane right now either. I want to be back where I was in nov before I super messed up..but im scared in the long run this diet really doesnt "re-set" anything and that i can lose it and keep it off with any low cal diet. I have before...I just havent gone that long without cheating...soo yeah. At least the hcg keeps me from a freak binge every few weeks...but my sisiters do a super low cal diet during the week, exercise and have a treat day or meal every few weeks and still lose... I feel like I miss out on that! I guess I can consider p3 in a few weeks "my treat" and then 3 weeks after that I can add in some treat carbs. I just hate how back and fourth my head is. I know it works, ive seen it work on me..but because I messed up and gained...totally my fault..I doubt doing this again. I need super motivation from people who have lost and maintained for a good while.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by maggie82

I need super motivation from people who have lost and maintained for a good while.

Hmmm, wish I had the motivation to do another round myself. But since I only lost 7 pounds last time...I'm not motivated. Maybe when I'm 7 pounds from goal I'll be ready for a last round. Sorry, wish I could toss motivation your way!

[maggie82]

do most of you guys do the shots, hhcg or non-hormone otc stuff? I take hhgc pelletts and im wondering if what kind of hcg you take effects how "rouge" you can go. Also, do any onf you use the miracle noodles ( the zero cal ones) or eas low carb shakes? I just dont get how we can use these andnot lose. Sometimes it super trips me up what kind of foods we cant have. like reallly a slice of an orange is going to make me gain? Or coco poweder really? I don't know..maybe im just looking for excuses to go a bit more rouge. Wouldnt mind a diet mt dew at least once a week

[CherylB]

Originally Posted by msgirl

Cheryl - i am hoping you see a major drop tomorrow - those rotisserie chickens are sooooooo goood!!!! I buy them for my family many times and we have them as a meal. I have to stop myself though because I could eat a whole one

Well, I finished off the day with only 418 calories - not sure how that happened. But, I am not hungry at all. Today I haven't had as much water either. I guess yesterday's apple day threw me off with my water consumption - I hope that isn't setting me up for a fall.

So, that's 2 days falling in the 400 calorie range - apple day was 480 and today.

The weiderest thing though is that my tummy has felt all crampy today. Not sure if that is a good sign or not. I just know that I am ready for P3 - thanks Cheryl for your advice on my body needing a break. 30 days has been much longer than I planned.

Tomorrow is LDD - Thurs & Fri - last low cal days. Planning on another very short round in the summer to get to goal.

I am gonna need a lot of help staying on plan in P3! So, I will have to bug you ladies frequently - If that's okay

You must stick around, so "bugging us" is just what we will expect from you. I'm guessing the tummy cramping is from all the apples and fiber. It will "pass." I hope you enjoy your P3 and that you it! I'm sure you will.

Originally Posted by paulabob

Today is my P3 day. Scale was a nasty fiend today! Up 2.6 pounds after my lowish calorie day yesterday.

So, scale was messing with me the past couple days? Or, some ovulation weight right now (day 15 of cycle but no o pains or signs this month). DH admitted to moving the scale around ... he's such a mess sometimes!

Trying to keep it in perspective...LOL, my waist is still "tiny" feeling and I'm not bloated! Still down 0.8 pound from last week. And my metabolism is still ticking well at that rate and with my minimal calorie restriction.

It's just a number (repeating to myself!). 14.4 pounds to goal is not a bad place to be!

And yesterday when I realized I could just squeeze into those 8s, I pulled that red dress I took on my honeymoon 20 years ago and couldn't fit. And guess what...the red dress fits now! Will look better in 5 pounds, but is wearable. Despite middle age spread, I'm definitely back into college sizes.

I'm sorry about the dang scale, but if it's as sensitive as mine is, it can't be moved around without getting wonky. Mine has a spot all to itself and I get consistent readings if I leave it alone.

on the red dress!!! Picture, please!

Originally Posted by mdolph

Morning all!

I'm up and moving. I was laying in bed last night and I just couldn't help but think about the million deadlines I have this week and how my teaching staff is left out there all alone with no voice. Ok, a little dramatic but you get the point. I'm the go to person between my teaching staff and the grantee office. Being gone a day is sometimes tough. Being gone a few days is very difficult and they do not bring anyone in to replace me when I'm out. I'm glad I did come is as tomorrow we're having parent conferences and our files, that the office has taken for an audit, have not been returned! Not good! My sites are roughly 45 minutes apart so it looks like today will be spent driving quite a bit. At least I won't be spreading my germs.

From Friday's weight I'm up 3 pounds. I'm up 4 from where I'd like to be and this Friday I have a reunion of sorts with people from high school. I'm in quite the delima as to what to do about shedding these few pounds. First off, I don't want to make myself any sicker, secondly, in the grand scheme of things is 4 pounds REALLY going to make me look that much thinner? LOL! I've decided to be good and eat very low carb but as much as I want. I hid the sugar free twizzlers, my shout out (girl scout cookies that have only 4.5 carbs each) and peanut butter. Today my breakfast was a 1/2 a grapefruit, lunch is egg salad and a lowcarb yogurt and dinner is sausage with onions and peppers cooked in butter. I'll accept whatever the scale says on Friday. Most havn't seen me under 200. ANything will be better,

Glad you're feeling better. I know you're not completely well so I hope you have the best possible day as you go about your job. I agree with the others who said that 3-4 lbs aren't going to make anyone's eyes pop farther out of their heads than they already will be popping! You look amazing and people won't recognize you at all. Enjoy it! And I'm with Cathy. No cookies or diet bars or anything like that, whether they are LC or not. I think the entire box is a serving.

Originally Posted by lunagirl704

Cheryl- I'm glad you had a great day! Sometimes they are few and far between! And yes to the rotisserie chicken! Though the ones at my grocery store (Perdue) have dextrose listed as an ingredient. I am rouge-ish so I do eat it too!

Speaking of clothes, I tried on a pair of pants that were tight last week and they are wearable now...not falling off, but wearable. So maybe the inches are coming off slowly. I'll take it. I'm not ravenous but i think I am so hungry because I am focusing on the few calories I can eat...typical 'diet mentality.'

Have a great day everyone!!!

I hear that! (Great days.) I don't look at the ingredients list on the chickens, but I do stay away from anything that has BBQ or Touch of Honey as their name. I had one that was "all natural" yesterday and I've also had one in the past that said, "Bourbon" (but I wasn't on hcg at the time. That is surely treacherous chicken.)

WTG on the pants!!! Dieting mentality does indeed suck. I find it interesting that we focus more and more on food when we are trying to find a healthy relationship with it. Seems like we should be focusing on other things, ya know?

Originally Posted by catjrow3

Cheryl, glad you had a good day at the barn yesterday, very nice! I too agree with the rest of the group, you are the cheerleader and everyone appreciates you!! (me included)

Jackie, great job on making it through the day... I made it through 2 almost fully fasting days. I had a small salad on both days for the last 2 days, but going normal protocol today, no more attempted fasting....500 calories even will seem like alot today!!

As for me.... I am hoping for a good round. Trying to keep my head on straight, so after 2 VLCDs (or almost fasting days that they were really) down another 3.8, for 10.6 in 2 days.. Oh if only I was not up that much before... Thats okay, my legs are feeling better without some of that bloat and TOM is fully underway, so hopefully a bit more of a swoosh will follow with that too (or could have been part of the already swoosh)...we will see. Hope you all have a nice HUMP day...

Awww, shucks. All I can say is that I try. I'm glad it helps some of you! You all are a big help to me when I'm in need of a hug or a tissue, so thank you too.

Jackie, I didn't quote you but I agree with Cathy! The first days are the hardest. Once we get back in the groove, we can stay in the groove. Momentum is everything for me.

Cathy, maybe your fasting idea was a good one. Like you said, 500 calories is going to seem like plenty after eating next to nothing. WTG on the water swooshies! All you have to do is keep on keepin' on and you will get to VT, just like I will. Then we can look back and say, "I did it!" Close your eyes and think about that!

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

Okay, I'm fed up with no and super slow losses. I called my doctor and am going in for paid HCG round today.

Good Luck today!!!! Keep us posted.

[catjrow3]

All here are rogue in some way or another. I use the Rx shots.. but there are all types on here.

some mix veges, some do higher fat, some eat 1000 calories, Your own mileage may vary. Some cannot lose anything unless they stick to strict protocol, some can. Everyone is so different. I am a bit like you, change my mind every few days or minutes about which diet to try. I tend to get fed up with the slower ones. I used to be a gym rat too, now I still exercise, but not with the same intensity that I did before. I still try to keep it up though. I have tried all the diets, and then I fail, binge, gain 10-15 lbs, start again, and over and over. This time I am going to try very hard to stick as close to protocol as I can while still exercising and just try to get there.. and then use P3/low carb to try to stay there. Now, those are my intentions, I just hope I can make them "stick" Good luck to you. I hope you can figure out what to do for you!!

[lunagirl704]

Maggie82- there is a science to the diet...read Pounds and Inches if you have not. Though this board is rogue . I am using rx pellets...losses have not been stellar but I don't have much to lose. I have used the miracle noodles/shirataki...some do fine others do not. If they cause a gain it would be due to water as they have no calories or fat (40 for a bag- shirataki). You can try them if it will get you through the round. They are filling and can fill that pasta/noodle craving (well, sort of!). As for the eas shakes- if they have soy or sugars you should avoid. On the 800 protocol whey protein isolate shakes are allowed. I have used whey isolate (0 carb/sugar) in the past (pre-hcg) and lost well. They don't fill me up though but can be used if you are on the go.

[mdolph]

Cathy- OMG thanks for posting the 5 Guys numbers. I will never be able to eat there again, lol! I love me a good 5 Guys burger!

My two cents would be to grab something from another place close by if you can. One of our 5 Guys is next door to a Chipotle. I grab a salad and eat at 5 Guys with friends. DH loves both places so we get a salad from Chipotles and a burger and split it! I may never eat another burger from there again though, lol! Holy Calories Batman!

So one of the school nurses sent me home. I'm home for now but going back in to another site in a bit. Thought I'd at least come home and take some meds, drink some coffee and take a little catnap!

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by mdolph

Cathy- OMG thanks for posting the 5 Guys numbers. I will never be able to eat there again, lol! I love me a good 5 Guys burger!

My two cents would be to grab something from another place close by if you can. One of our 5 Guys is next door to a Chipotle. I grab a salad and eat at 5 Guys with friends. DH loves both places so we get a salad from Chipotles and a burger and split it! I may never eat another burger from there again though, lol! Holy Calories Batman!

So one of the school nurses sent me home. I'm home for now but going back in to another site in a bit. Thought I'd at least come home and take some meds, drink some coffee and take a little catnap!

The fries were even worse, for a large order, 1400 CALORIES!!!!!!

[RileyWorm]

Howdy girls! Sounds like this week is going better than last week, for some of us at least! I'm fat fasting again today, I think it's my last day, then I think I'm going to do 3 days P2 no drops and do a mini-reload on Sunday, skipping the Super Bowl party we were invited to because I have a finance midterm to study for on Monday, but thinking about making myself hot wings or chicken thighs. Then start again with regular P2 on Monday. I think tomorrow I may see a whoosh as I am peeing TONS today, so fingers crossed. I am getting closer and closer and I just know these last 10 pounds are going to be tough!

oh, and 5 guys? I would TOTALLY cheat for that so congrats for thinking it through! I love 5 Guys and Red Robin, my two faves.

[CherylB]

Originally Posted by msgirl

Morning ladies!!!

Well, after two days low, low, low calorie I dropped .2 today. My body is really not wanting to budge. I feel thinner - my waist, chest, etc. looks thinner. So, that's a plus

Okay, I have a small dilemma. Today is hubby's bday and for lunch he wants Five Guys. If you have never been there, I will fill you in quickly - they have NOTHING healthy. So, I am trying to decide do I go and just bring some water and enjoy the company or do I go and eat a bunless burger with just lettuce? drink tons of water, and eat little to nothing the rest of the day. Keep in mind I have been right at 400-480 calories the last two days.

Not really sure what to do - so any help is appreciated.

This VLCD31 for me - Last dose day....

I think it's going to be too late for my advice to count, since you are going for lunch. But I would have suggested doing like Cathy did (I'm assuming she did this) and go to their website online and do some serious scouring of their menu. I don't envy you! I am especially weak when I see others totally enjoying food and I have to separate myself from it. It is more than just feeling deprived, it touches something deeper within me about being "different." Maybe it's the "calling attention to myself" aspect of it.

If you do go with bringing apples and celery, and if the wait staff says anything, just tell them you have tons of serious allergies and that you need to bring your own food or you might die.

Bummer that this is your last dosing day! Too bad you couldn't have had his birthday lunch fall in P3. If it were me, I would do a refeed day today and extend P2 for a week to drop whatever I gained during refeed, then start P3. But that's me. You're probably sitting at the table right now, across from his ginormous meal and happy face. Be strong!

Originally Posted by catjrow3

Msgirl... thanks... I guess its normal for me in the first few days but it stops very quickly. Its not a consistent thing with me at all!! and I was fasting for these last 2 days, so might rebound as well... and.... you are alot closer to your goal weight than me.. that matters too...

(Shhhhhh!) Don't talk like that. No rebounding in your near future.

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

Cat, now I'm doing homeopathic drops. With the doc I get Rx Hcg - he gives this one big dissolvable pellet for in the morning. Plus, he told me last time if I didn't lose on the pellet he would give me the shots. Also, he "weighs" you every week on this machine that tells you all kinds of info like your body fat ratio and whether you are dehydrated. He makes you measure, too. I probably just need that discipline. Plus the backup of the shots if I don't dang well start losing. I'm so impatient to lose.

I've been in P2 since the day after Christmas and have only lost a net 3 pounds. this is f'd up pardon my French. I think it is the hormone implant. But his wife/secretary says the Hcg will work with the implant so I'm going in today.

No doubt about it. That SUCKS! So he's a diet Dr? He must be if he has special equipment like that. I hope going this route helps you get to your goal quicker.

Originally Posted by Sasseaux

MS you are dedicated. I admire that. Take along your own food and if they say anything to you tell them to stuff it. Sorry that's just the mood I'm in today.

I went to the office birthday party yesterday and stared at the cake. It looked good. I didn't have any. Its not that good anyway.

Cake sucks.

Originally Posted by pugswin

Hi All!

no time to read the thread, I'll come back later, promise! Stopped by to post a link for DisneyP who mentioned she wants another baby: How To Convince My Husband To Have Another Child | Being Pregnant

Anyway, I totally flailed last week and reloaded the past weekend with the idea that I would not give in .. its not working!
The good news is on Monday I was 181.5 (I was as high as 186.5 last week) so I've lost the initial load weight.. but yesterday I was 183.5 and today 182.5.

I'm just not getting into this time. I need to spend more time here with you all!

see you soon!

There you are! You are right. What's missing in your life is US! I feel you, struggling with getting off the ground. But it can be done. Just never give up.

Originally Posted by maggie82

This is literally exactly how I feel! I was even torn after my "week break" if I want to do this diet anymore or just make my own similar version and get my a** back in the gym. I so miss it, i used to be a usper gym rat. body pump classes ans cardio and i miss it. I almost feel less healthy losing this weight, even though I got super small, i felt less tone. And now that ive gained some back its even worse. So my mind is everywhere!! Do hhcg but go semi rouge? do hhgc to the T get it over with?? Do a regular low cal/carb diet and kick butt in the gym? my mind literally changes every 5 min and i feel insane. If I never would have dont this diet I wouldnt know how it really does work..but i wouldnt be going insane right now either. I want to be back where I was in nov before I super messed up..but im scared in the long run this diet really doesnt "re-set" anything and that i can lose it and keep it off with any low cal diet. I have before...I just havent gone that long without cheating...soo yeah. At least the hcg keeps me from a freak binge every few weeks...but my sisiters do a super low cal diet during the week, exercise and have a treat day or meal every few weeks and still lose... I feel like I miss out on that! I guess I can consider p3 in a few weeks "my treat" and then 3 weeks after that I can add in some treat carbs. I just hate how back and fourth my head is. I know it works, ive seen it work on me..but because I messed up and gained...totally my fault..I doubt doing this again. I need super motivation from people who have lost and maintained for a good while.

Maggie! Always nice to meet a lurker. If you are that into working out and still have the gym membership, I'd do an eating plan that was compatible with hard workouts. How much do you need to lose? Also, you need to figure out how you plan to eat when you get to maintenance. I think we all need to think about that. What can we truly live with? I for one don't think I'm going to be eating meat on a daily basis, so I have to work my way into more carbs but keeping protein high. That will ultimately be lower fat. It's a big decision but I know that exercise will be a regular part of my picture if I hope to maintain my losses for the rest of my life.

Originally Posted by maggie82

do most of you guys do the shots, hhcg or non-hormone otc stuff? I take hhgc pelletts and im wondering if what kind of hcg you take effects how "rouge" you can go. Also, do any onf you use the miracle noodles ( the zero cal ones) or eas low carb shakes? I just dont get how we can use these andnot lose. Sometimes it super trips me up what kind of foods we cant have. like reallly a slice of an orange is going to make me gain? Or coco poweder really? I don't know..maybe im just looking for excuses to go a bit more rouge. Wouldnt mind a diet mt dew at least once a week

I take the hhcg pellets. I love them and I've never tried anything else. I got a good tip right up front and I'm so thankful to the woman who suggested which to get. I've never had to monkey with doses or anything. Just take it as it's prescribed on the bottle.

I've never tried the miracle noodles. Mainly because I've read some things about them that makes me think I'd get skived out by them. I hear there are two different kinds and (if memory serves,) the kind in the green bag are better. But don't take my word for it! I often get things backward.

Have you looked at the Omaha Weight Loss hcg website? I think oranges are allowed on their plan. Even smart pop popcorn! I did the OWL hcg plan in R1 and it was nice. I am staying away from all grains this round and limiting fruit to just a few times a week, if that.

[CherylB]

The big question is, will I ever get caught up on this thread? Wow! Sometimes it's not easy.

Originally Posted by catjrow3

All here are rogue in some way or another. I use the Rx shots.. but there are all types on here.

some mix veges, some do higher fat, some eat 1000 calories, Your own mileage may vary. Some cannot lose anything unless they stick to strict protocol, some can. Everyone is so different. I am a bit like you, change my mind every few days or minutes about which diet to try. I tend to get fed up with the slower ones. I used to be a gym rat too, now I still exercise, but not with the same intensity that I did before. I still try to keep it up though. I have tried all the diets, and then I fail, binge, gain 10-15 lbs, start again, and over and over. This time I am going to try very hard to stick as close to protocol as I can while still exercising and just try to get there.. and then use P3/low carb to try to stay there. Now, those are my intentions, I just hope I can make them "stick" Good luck to you. I hope you can figure out what to do for you!!

I change my mind a lot, too. That's the thing! If we are continually changing our direction, how can we ever accomplish our goal of getting to our dream weight? I have to get that through my thick, impulsive skull.

I've heard it said that "There is no 'try'. There is 'do' or 'don't do' but 'try' does not exist." That rings true to me. "Try" leaves you an out. It's entirely in our own hands to do or not do. Let's make it happen!

Originally Posted by mdolph

Cathy- OMG thanks for posting the 5 Guys numbers. I will never be able to eat there again, lol! I love me a good 5 Guys burger!

My two cents would be to grab something from another place close by if you can. One of our 5 Guys is next door to a Chipotle. I grab a salad and eat at 5 Guys with friends. DH loves both places so we get a salad from Chipotles and a burger and split it! I may never eat another burger from there again though, lol! Holy Calories Batman!

So one of the school nurses sent me home. I'm home for now but going back in to another site in a bit. Thought I'd at least come home and take some meds, drink some coffee and take a little catnap!

It's so amazingly awful to see what people put into their bodies without even knowing the extent of the damage. It's best to stay the heck away from restaurants and fast food joints. I know that when I made that one big change a few years ago, I lost weight very easily. (I recall it was also at this time of year, where Winter is melting into Spring and early Summer, so that's my natural time for losing weight, too.) But I had gone from a complete fast food junkie to eating only what I cooked at home and I felt so much better!

I forgot to address the fact you got sent home from school! If she sent you home, that means you are really too sick still. I was thinking you were better than that. I will pray for you to get well speedily, since you are so needed at work and in your private life.

Originally Posted by catjrow3

The fries were even worse, for a large order, 1400 CALORIES!!!!!!

That's insane.

Originally Posted by RileyWorm

Howdy girls! Sounds like this week is going better than last week, for some of us at least! I'm fat fasting again today, I think it's my last day, then I think I'm going to do 3 days P2 no drops and do a mini-reload on Sunday, skipping the Super Bowl party we were invited to because I have a finance midterm to study for on Monday, but thinking about making myself hot wings or chicken thighs. Then start again with regular P2 on Monday. I think tomorrow I may see a whoosh as I am peeing TONS today, so fingers crossed. I am getting closer and closer and I just know these last 10 pounds are going to be tough!

oh, and 5 guys? I would TOTALLY cheat for that so congrats for thinking it through! I love 5 Guys and Red Robin, my two faves.

Definitely better than last week! Last week I was loading and finishing up my last "round" of being completely off-track. I always feel so much better when I'm doing the right thing for my health and wellness.

Good luck with your fat fasts! You're doing a mini-reload on Sunday but skipping the Super Bowl party? That sucks! I hope you ace your midterm! What brain food will you be scarfing on this Sunday? I hear pizza is really good for you.

We don't have 5 Guys or Red Robins here, to my knowledge. My faves are Chilis and Mexican food, but I rarely ever go to either. When I'm bad, I go with pizza delivery, wine and chocolate. It never fails. Those three things are what I eat on my off days, but it turns into off weeks so I have to stay the heck away from those trigger foods.

[CherylB]

Okay! Looks like I did it! I'm down another 1.2 today so moving right along. Just need to drop a kilo and I'll be back in the 60's. I am feeling so much slimmer already and am so happy to be back in control of my diet and my body.

I hope everyone has a wonderful Wednesday! It's a gorgeous day here again. I think it's in the mid-50's but I'm still indoors, in my PJ's. I am a total homebody and I need to get out of the house more. I am so out of shape cardiovascular-wise that I have to start doing things that make me build up my endurance. My muscles have surely done some wasting too, but I really get winded when exerting myself even mildly.

[minimonkey]

Ladies, I am seriously going to cry I think... I am up 3.2 lbs since yesterday What????

I ate p3, and only ate about 1600 calories all told. How is this gain possible? One possible culprit is whey protein powder -- that's something I hadn't been eating, and I know it can act like a carb in some peoples' bodies.

I know it can't all be fat, and I am struggling with bloating and water retention right now... but this is so discouraging. I'm beginning to think that I've seriously messed up my metabolism with all this p2.

So, this is about to be the world's shortest p3 ever -- I'm giving it one more day today, minus the protein powder --- but if there's any gain tomorrow, I am going back to p2 with the hhcg, and keeping it super strict from here on out.

I ate breakfast/lunch, and that's it for the day -- I don't know the calorie count of my meal, but it was fairly high ...

Being burnt out on dieting is one thing... but I am now 8 lbs up from my low this round.... and that is while sticking to plan

I can't live on hhcg forever (well, maybe I can, I seem to be on my way to doing that!) -- but this is ridiculous. As much as I hate to say this, I really WOULD rather starve than regain this weight again -- and if that is what it takes to relose the weight and maintain, I will do it.

I'm suspecting that I'll likely be back on p2 tomorrow, and this little experiment will constitute a refeed --

If that's the case, I am going protocol -- NOW -- and not deviating until I see 105 again, no matter how long that takes. Even if the hhcg has stopped working, I have to lose eventually on a 500 calorie diet -- even my body can't possibly be efficient enough to maintain or gain forever on that.

[Sasseaux]

Back from the doc's.

Cheryl, yes, he is a nutritionist, actually.

Cat, He gave me a 50% off discount since this is my second round with him.

He says shouldn't be any problem to get me down to 150 in 30 days. Dang, I hope so. That will put me in week 3 of P3 when I get to vacation in March Woot!

He and his staff bragged on how good I look and said I don't need them, But I do I do!! Even though when I started with them I was at 200 pounds, I still want to get down more. Maybe 135 is too ambitious, but I think 145 is realistic long term goal giving a little "cushion." Then all my size 12's should fit.

P. S. Doc is big on Walden's Farms junk. I stopped and got the Bacon Ranch dressing at the store. Its not bad. I was surprised since sugar free diet stuff tastes usually like utter crap.

I'm all fired up and praying this works. I'm so tired of not losing. Rx Pellets should be here by Friday. I'm not going to binge or load, though. I'm NOT getting back the 3 pounds it took me a month to lose.

[minimonkey]

I seriously want to cry right now. I have so much stress going on, I really don't need this

[lunagirl704]

Oh Mini- I am so sorry to hear that! It has GOT to be hormonal or water or something...3 lbs is 10,500 calories (over what your body needs for fuel) and you did not consume that! This is why I don't weigh every day...the fluctuations send me into orbit. Even if the whey was converted into carbs you wouldn't gain 3 lbs! It will be gone in the next day or so.