**FAT FASTER'S THREAD** - Page 8

garnet10 · 01-27-2012, 04:46 AM

After D#3 of Fat Fast, only 0.2 down today (for a total of 4 pounds in 3 days!), so I am stopping my hCG as of last night (I re-read Dr. Belluscio's info on oral hCG and he found the hCG is out of your system after 48 hours, so I should be on P3/interruption by Sunday). That's only 20 days of hCG, but I went rogue the last few days, so I'm just going with it.

I REALLY, REALLY cannot do this much longer. I am wiped. I am going to increase to 800 calories these next two days (all protein and veggies--going to skip the fruit and breadsticks), and hopefully there won't be any bumps upward. I'm worried because I've only been around 126 for two days, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Thanks to all of you who posted about this Fat Fast.

It is exactly what I needed to move out of my horrendous stall. Now my job is to maintain this weight loss through my interruption before I can try to lose the rest of my weight.

See you on P3!

SunnyFL · 01-27-2012, 06:24 AM

Ok so I want to do this, I think just for today, tomorrow, and Sunday...then do three days of clean P2 (strict) and starting P3. I am SO DONE!

What motivated me? I ate some chicken out with friends yesterday and I know the chicken and veggies HAD butter, I was only losing .2 oz a day creeping by...and this morning I lost .8 oz!...and I know I had fat yesterday.

So I need help ladies, heading to the grocery store in a few but need to know what to get and what to do...read page one and I'm confused...do I continue my hHCG? And what are the guidelines? I follow the K.I.S.S method (lol) I just took my morning dose, I use the pellets. Haven't had any coffee or food yet.

I'm at 146 today but I truly want to be lower before I call it quits. I stabilize exactly 2 pounds over on P3...and I'd like to be under 145 as my stabilization. Not looking for miracles, but some more budging on the scale would be nice.

Bring it on!

msgirl · 01-27-2012, 06:37 AM

Last day of FF and Still the same today on the scale - so no movement in two days...but it is not the fat fast - instead I was awakened by TOM!!! I knew it...bloating and generally weak feeling and crabby for days. But, I have to say, it is a miracle I didn't gain....I had the pre-TOM munchies last night and my fat went above what I expected!

SunnyFL - This actually gave me just what I needed for a boost - my body was totally stuck at 500 calories and would not let go of pounds. I added in fat then moved onto the fat fast - I did 3 days and I would say the pounds really did start moving. From last week until today I lost 4 pounds. That is not as significant as some but it was for me. Today I am going back to VLCD and am truly considering stopping drops on Sunday - I had hope to be at 140 but I think TOM stole my chances!

I posted a lot of menus on this thread - but I ate:

Two times:
8 0z GY, 1 tb CO, 1 TB of almond butter (that was my first day)

I can't remember the 2nd day exactly but

I know I had cream cheese, macadamia nuts, hwc, 3 eggs scrambled in butter, 4% cottage cheese

The exact numbers and percentages are on the post I added here a couple of days ago.

We do take the hcg while fat fasting.

Good luck to you!

The scale will move for you! I can feel it!

SunnyFL · 01-27-2012, 06:43 AM

I'm going to have to reread the original post and try to make sense of the fat percentage and calories.

I'm trying to use what I have here, which is eggs, butter, HWC, FAGE, cheese, Mac nuts, etc.

I was going to quit pellets today and start P3 Sunday but I really don't want to stabilize in the upper 140's

At this weight since I'm so petite, even several pounds are noticeable. Ideally getting to 140 would be the best but I don't know if I'll get there at all.

I'm excited for eggs with butter!!!!

are you doing two vlcd before going on to P3?

NP8559 · 01-27-2012, 06:54 AM

Thank you sweet baby Jesus!!

132.6 today! That is 2.5 pounds down this week, for a total weight loss since January 3 of 12 pounds!! This WOE DOES work if you stick to it and don't give up and cheat.
What a great way to start a Friday!

Water does makea HUGE difference. I drink mine all at work too so I can relax in the evening. I cannot believe I have lost considering I have had a cupple vodka cocktails in the evening this week. I drink it with flavored seltzer water that is sweetened with splends so literally no carbs in these drinks just calories but the alcohol does slow fat burn. I have also been watching my cheese. I LOVE cheese and that is one reason I was attracted to this diet but it just doesnt help me.

I do want to try the fat fast still and plan to incorporate working out next week. I say do what works for you and will keep you sane, losing weight is hard enough!

Have a good weekend

NP8559 · 01-27-2012, 06:55 AM

Rileyworm,

My cream cheese muffins came out like a pudding, not solid at all, I had to eat with a spoon?!?

msgirl · 01-27-2012, 07:02 AM

sunny - I haven't totally decided yet about what I am gonna do moving into P3. If I can dump some more weight after TOM (that showed up today) then I will stay VLC (which today is my first day back). I had hoped to transition pretty quickly.

However, if I don't lose the extra I will stay VLC for say 5 days, do FF, then my last two days of this round will be FF - which makes some sense going from say 700 calories to P3 would cause major tummy troubles for me - kind of like my first introduction to fat last week!

I am just playing it by ear right now - sorry I couldn't be more help. Maybe someone else could chime in on this one.

Congrats NP!

SunnyFL · 01-27-2012, 08:01 AM

Ok made eggs with butter and HWC

Coffee with 2 HWC (been doing it on P2)

Planning the rest of my menu but the eggs tastes so good I was humming to myself as I ate LOL!!!

Nicole T · 01-27-2012, 09:14 AM

Hi Fat Fasters! Sounds like everyone is doing great eating FAT

I'm on P3, day 3 and am 162.6 again. I was 162 even on my first day of P3. Hoping I stabilize this time. Haven't had the time to do Leptin Big A$$ Breakfasts due to crazy morning schedule but I'm still following all of his other rules (no snacking, 4-5 hours between meals, 3 hours between dinner and bed) and am eating Paleo-style. I was eating dairy since I had just come off of the fat fast BUT...Bernice was no where in site after almost 5 DAYS so I cut the dairy out yesterday and low and behold...she's back. I guess dairy just really does a number on me--even when it doesn't make me feel bad

Calories are still kinda low but I'm trying to slowly up them. I think I was only at 900 yesterday so I need to add some major food in soon! I was full and satisfied all day though due to eating Paleo (fat and protein and veggies). Hope everyone has a great weekend!

RileyWorm · 01-27-2012, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NP8559

Rileyworm,

My cream cheese muffins came out like a pudding, not solid at all, I had to eat with a spoon?!?

Hm..how long did you bake them? Is your oven temp accurate? Not sure. Mine turned out like little cheesecakes.

RileyWorm · 01-27-2012, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyFL

I'm going to have to reread the original post and try to make sense of the fat percentage and calories.

I'm trying to use what I have here, which is eggs, butter, HWC, FAGE, cheese, Mac nuts, etc.

I was going to quit pellets today and start P3 Sunday but I really don't want to stabilize in the upper 140's

At this weight since I'm so petite, even several pounds are noticeable. Ideally getting to 140 would be the best but I don't know if I'll get there at all.

I'm excited for eggs with butter!!!!

are you doing two vlcd before going on to P3?

I plan on going back to p2 after a fat fast before going to p3. I think I'm going to do another fat fast maybe next week. We will see where I am, I'm staying off the scale for a few days!

Did you get your percentages worked out? 1000 cals, 90% from fat or as high/close as you can get it. I think mine all 3 days came out to about 83%. Next time I'm shooting for higher and going to do what someone suggested on here and make like a mousse with cream cheese and HWC. Good luck on your fat fast!!

garnet10 · 01-27-2012, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NP8559

I see a lot of people eating cream cheese or heavy cream whipped. I don't know that I can stomach cream cheese alone, do you just eat it with a spoon?

I just ate the cream cheese off of a butterknife. I actually liked it! I had the heavy cream in coffee.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyFL

Ok so I want to do this, I think just for today, tomorrow, and Sunday...then do three days of clean P2 (strict) and starting P3. I am SO DONE!

What motivated me? I ate some chicken out with friends yesterday and I know the chicken and veggies HAD butter, I was only losing .2 oz a day creeping by...and this morning I lost .8 oz!...and I know I had fat yesterday.

So I need help ladies, heading to the grocery store in a few but need to know what to get and what to do...read page one and I'm confused...do I continue my hHCG? And what are the guidelines? I follow the K.I.S.S method (lol) I just took my morning dose, I use the pellets. Haven't had any coffee or food yet.

I'm at 146 today but I truly want to be lower before I call it quits. I stabilize exactly 2 pounds over on P3...and I'd like to be under 145 as my stabilization. Not looking for miracles, but some more budging on the scale would be nice.

Bring it on!

Oh, we are all winging it since there is no protocol for doing this with hCG! But I wish there was, I'm so discombobulated without a regimen to follow.

Today I am eating P2 (and also tomorrow), then I'm starting my interruption on Sunday, so I'll have about 60 hours off hCG. I have no idea what I am doing

, I only know I couldn't do this diet protocol any longer (either VLCD or Fat Fast).

I opted to do just protein and veggies today and tomorrow, just in case the sugar in the fruit and the starch in the breadsticks were going to be a problem. I just have to get through the rest of today and tomorrow and pray I stabilize during my interruption.

The only eggs I had on this plan were the yolks, because that is where the fat is (I also followed Atkins instructions for Fat Fast). I didn't eat my Fage full fat yogurt at all because it seemed to have too much protein, and I was looking for 90% fat.

I hope, I hope, I hope, the scale stays the same for the next two days, then that will be 4 days at the same weight, which will hopefully be enough for stabilization. I think I'm going to follow Nicole's Leptin Reset protocol when I start P3--that seems to be a good program to follow.

star a.d. · 01-27-2012, 10:53 AM

someone posted the original atkins menu options for it earlier in the thread, actually.

I don't know if I'd call that protocol, per se, but that's the business.

SunnyFL · 01-27-2012, 11:05 AM

Riley and Garnet, I'm logging my fats and trying to keep it up!
It's harder than it looks actually. Trying to sneak in HWC every chance I get!

I'm making cream cheese muffins now actually. Do we know the calories/fat on those? Hmmm...I'm making mini ones.

Might have to plug it in to caloriecount and see where it comes up.

LauraLovesLowCarb · 01-27-2012, 11:42 AM

185 grams of Avocado (6.5 ounces)
KCal = 340
Fat = 28.5 g.
Carb = 16 g.
Fiber = 12.5 g.
Net Carb = 3.5 g.
Protein = 3.6 g.

I eat this every single day!

SunnyFL · 01-27-2012, 01:12 PM

Are you ladies doing 800 calories or 1000 calories?

RileyWorm · 01-27-2012, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyFL

Riley and Garnet, I'm logging my fats and trying to keep it up!
It's harder than it looks actually. Trying to sneak in HWC every chance I get!

I'm making cream cheese muffins now actually. Do we know the calories/fat on those? Hmmm...I'm making mini ones.

Might have to plug it in to caloriecount and see where it comes up.

I made 8, so I figured 100 for the cream cheese(800 for the whole block), plus the egg (80) is 10 more, plus I added 5 just to be safe! Ha! So I figured 115 each. Cream cheese is 100% calorie from fat, so I figured them just a smidge under because of the egg addition. But my configurations are as rogue as my WOE so if you have a more accurate count, please keep me updated! lol!
If you can spare the cals, smear 'em with peanut butter. Ate it for lunch one day and it was yummy and super filling!

Next time I plan to rely heavily on HWC. Can't wait! I think I may start Sunday.

ETA: I think most of us did 1000 calories, I think a few days I was actually over.

SunnyFL · 01-27-2012, 01:22 PM

Ok I calculated 86 calories for my mini muffins (12 serving) I omitted the cocoa powder...but mine tasted a bit salty? Weird...still edible but I don't know what happened....maybe the cooking spray...

Calories 86
Calories from Fat 67% Daily Value*
Total Fat 7.4g
11% Saturated Fat
4.6g 23%
Cholesterol 38mg
Sodium 62mg
Total Carbohydrates 2.3g
Sugars 1.8g
Protein 1.9g

I am so full...trying to figure out dinner...maybe just one egg, I'm almost at 1000 calories

metqa · 01-27-2012, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NP8559

I see a lot of people eating cream cheese or heavy cream whipped. I don't know that I can stomach cream cheese alone, do you just eat it with a spoon?

One way to dress up cream cheese, and increase fat % is to make clouds.
this recipe from Linda Sue's Site:

Quote:

CREAM CHEESE CLOUDS
8 ounces cream cheese, softened
1/2 cup unsalted butter, softened
1/2-3/4 cup granular Splenda or equivalent liquid Splenda *
1/2 teaspoon vanilla or other flavoring

Beat everything with an electric mixer until fluffy. Drop by bite-size spoonfuls onto a wax paper-lined baking sheet. Freeze until firm, at least 1 hour. Store in the freezer and eat frozen.

Makes 24 clouds

* I didn't think they were quite sweet enough with 1/2 cup so I used liquid Splenda to equal 3/4 cup granular. The counts are based on 3/4 cup Splenda.

I use caramel Davinci to make caramel clouds, I use a pastry bag to pipe them out into little mounds, then freeze them, meanwhile I make a batch of cocoa bark syrup in a glass. I remove each frozen cloud from the tray, poke a toothpick into the bottom, and dip it into the cocoa bark syrup. It hardens into a shell ( or you can just grab one end of the cloud and dip half in the syrup)

Another variation is to use lemon juice or True Lemon powder in half of the batch, and flavor the other half with a fruit flavor like Raspberry/strawberry/Pomegranate. The using the pastry bag to pipe out the pink flavored clouds, the fill the bag with the lemon flavor, insert the tip in the center and pipe the lemon into the center.

Put them back into the freezer to finish setting up. They are a nice creamy treat that no longer tastes like plain boring cream cheese.

star a.d. · 01-27-2012, 02:27 PM

I'd completely forgotten about those! great idea!

SunnyFL · 01-28-2012, 06:58 AM

Hello hello!!

Well after a really upset tummy (

) I am down to 145.6!!
It's not much, but I'll take the 5 oz. happily! I'll do the fat fast today and tomorrow and back to strict P2 on Monday (yes ladies, no HWC, sigh') I figure I'll do a strict P2 Monday - Thursday and start P3 on Sunday.

Trying to find a way to up the fat today, ideas? I was at 83% fat yesterday and like 9 carbs...

I went to bed starving and woke up starving!!! My tummy was like you'd better feed me woman!

RileyWorm · 01-28-2012, 11:15 AM

Metqa! Your cream cheese clouds look amazing! I wanted to make some but only have salted butter. I will definitely try your variations the next time!

MemoryKeeper · 01-28-2012, 11:24 AM

I think I've really messed up on this fat fast. I've had way too many calories. So far I've had about 2000 calories, 70% fat. It's that the fattening things are so small and it's easy to eat a lot of it. I didn't notice the suggested calorie amount until after I ate the food. YIKES-A-RAMA!

Oh well, there's nothing I can do about it now. I will just have to watch my last meal, and try to keep it "lighter."

Riley I made the brownie bars you posted, with some tweaks:

I posted it on the P2-P3 Thread

RileyWorm · 01-28-2012, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyFL

Hello hello!!

Well after a really upset tummy (

) I am down to 145.6!!
It's not much, but I'll take the 5 oz. happily! I'll do the fat fast today and tomorrow and back to strict P2 on Monday (yes ladies, no HWC, sigh') I figure I'll do a strict P2 Monday - Thursday and start P3 on Sunday.

Trying to find a way to up the fat today, ideas? I was at 83% fat yesterday and like 9 carbs...

I went to bed starving and woke up starving!!! My tummy was like you'd better feed me woman!

Heavy whipping cream, butter, mayo, cream cheese...all are 100% calories from fat so if you can find a way to incorporate more of those.. I have this problem too, because if I only eat these things it doesn't leave much for actual food (with substance, you know what I mean?) My % was 83 everyday the last time. Someone (maybe star or agent?) on here said they whip cream cheese and add HWC to make a mousse-like dessert. You can add splenda, cocoa powder, vanilla, etc...ETA: I just saw on the other thread you already did this. YUM! Who knew eating more fat could be so hard? LOL!

SunnyFL · 01-28-2012, 11:47 AM

Yea I did that, it was yummy, with some cocoa powder...but I'm still craving substance ya know?
Thinking of tuna for dinner with a slice of bacon, or eggs with mayo...all I know is I have to eat dinner later tonight...I was SO hungry around 8:00, like hungry where your tummy actually hurts?!!

I'm at 79% right now, so my dinner needs to count!

So far I've had:

2 tbs hwc and coffee
2 eggs, 1/2 tbs hwc and 1 tbs butter (scrambled eggs)
3 mini cream cheese muffins
Chocolate cheesecake mousse: 1/4 cup HWC with 1 oz cream cheese, 1/2 tbs cocoa powder, splenda for lunch.
Dinner I think tuna salad but not sure yet

RileyWorm · 01-28-2012, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyFL

Yea I did that, it was yummy, with some cocoa powder...but I'm still craving substance ya know?
Thinking of tuna for dinner with a slice of bacon, or eggs with mayo...all I know is I have to eat dinner later tonight...I was SO hungry around 8:00, like hungry where your tummy actually hurts?!!

I'm at 79% right now, so my dinner needs to count!

So far I've had:

2 tbs hwc and coffee
2 eggs, 1/2 tbs hwc and 1 tbs butter (scrambled eggs)
3 mini cream cheese muffins
Chocolate cheesecake mousse: 1/4 cup HWC with 1 oz cream cheese, 1/2 tbs cocoa powder, splenda for lunch.
Dinner I think tuna salad but not sure yet

I hear ya! Are you eating 3 meals/day or spreading it out?I've been doing 3 main meals but I might try spreading them out into 5 mini-meals tomorrow, maybe that will help. At least 79 is still within the 75-90% window.

I'm gonna do lunch now, 2 eggs with butter probably. Bacon for dinner, with cream cheese muffins with peanut butter I guess (if I ever get motivated to go make them!)

I am going to have to make that cream cheese/hwc combo soon too!!

minimonkey · 01-28-2012, 12:04 PM

Memory Keeper -- that's easy to do with Fat Fasting -- I've let the calories creep up far too many times myself.

You may still see a loss -- if not, no worries -- just keep it more controlled in the future. You really don't get to eat much volume of food with fat fasting, which is the big drawback to it.

SunnyFL · 01-28-2012, 12:07 PM

I'm eating three meals...yesterday I spread it out and had mini meals but finished at 5:00 lol...I was so hungry!
So today, I am trying three meals...trying to hold out for dinner around 6:30...let's see if I can get there...chugging lots of water!

minimonkey · 01-28-2012, 12:40 PM

Hi FFers --

I am actually NOT doing the fat fast -- or anything resembling it -- for the next week or so -- I am going to a slightly rogue version of protocol for a bit.

I think I've gotten what I can from fat fasting for the moment, and my body adapts to it quickly -- so I am wanting to shake things up for a while -- well, not so much wanting to do it, as needing to do it. I think I need protein, badly, right now.

I'll undoubtedly be back at some point in the near future though!

msgirl · 01-28-2012, 03:43 PM

I have moved over to rogue as well for the next few days as well.

I thought tomorow was gonna be my LDD but, I have decided to keep on a little longer, maybe until the end of next week

I have 5-7 pounds I am still trying to budge and that will determine the length of time I stay on.

FF really did help me and I will continue to incorporate sporadically my 4% cottage cheese, HWC (in moderation) and CO.

Sunnfl - keep it up!!

Jeanette - On my last FF day I had a hard time keeping calories low as well - I ended up at 1300!!!! That wasn't intentional

Good luck ladies! I will be checking in here as this is one of my fave threads!

01-27-2012, 04:46 AM	#211
garnet10 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 941 Gallery: garnet10 Stats: 182/141.6 5/6/13/Goal 125 WOE: hCG Start Date: hCG 10/9/10; restarted 5/6/13	After D#3 of Fat Fast, only 0.2 down today (for a total of 4 pounds in 3 days!), so I am stopping my hCG as of last night (I re-read Dr. Belluscio's info on oral hCG and he found the hCG is out of your system after 48 hours, so I should be on P3/interruption by Sunday). That's only 20 days of hCG, but I went rogue the last few days, so I'm just going with it. I REALLY, REALLY cannot do this much longer. I am wiped. I am going to increase to 800 calories these next two days (all protein and veggies--going to skip the fruit and breadsticks), and hopefully there won't be any bumps upward. I'm worried because I've only been around 126 for two days, so I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks to all of you who posted about this Fat Fast. It is exactly what I needed to move out of my horrendous stall. Now my job is to maintain this weight loss through my interruption before I can try to lose the rest of my weight. See you on P3! __________________

01-27-2012, 06:24 AM	#212
SunnyFL Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South FL Posts: 1,175 Gallery: SunnyFL Stats: 177/140/130 WOE: Lowcarb w/grains Start Date: October 2011	Ok so I want to do this, I think just for today, tomorrow, and Sunday...then do three days of clean P2 (strict) and starting P3. I am SO DONE! What motivated me? I ate some chicken out with friends yesterday and I know the chicken and veggies HAD butter, I was only losing .2 oz a day creeping by...and this morning I lost .8 oz!...and I know I had fat yesterday. So I need help ladies, heading to the grocery store in a few but need to know what to get and what to do...read page one and I'm confused...do I continue my hHCG? And what are the guidelines? I follow the K.I.S.S method (lol) I just took my morning dose, I use the pellets. Haven't had any coffee or food yet. I'm at 146 today but I truly want to be lower before I call it quits. I stabilize exactly 2 pounds over on P3...and I'd like to be under 145 as my stabilization. Not looking for miracles, but some more budging on the scale would be nice. Bring it on! __________________ Sunny aka "SunnyHeavyCream" Here we go! P4 Round 3!!! I think I am done....enjoying life..."stay tuned"

01-27-2012, 09:14 AM	#219
Nicole T Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 1,021 Gallery: Nicole T Stats: 192/180/170 WOE: 5:2/JUDDD/Paleo Start Date: 4/22/13	Hi Fat Fasters! Sounds like everyone is doing great eating FAT I'm on P3, day 3 and am 162.6 again. I was 162 even on my first day of P3. Hoping I stabilize this time. Haven't had the time to do Leptin Big A$$ Breakfasts due to crazy morning schedule but I'm still following all of his other rules (no snacking, 4-5 hours between meals, 3 hours between dinner and bed) and am eating Paleo-style. I was eating dairy since I had just come off of the fat fast BUT...Bernice was no where in site after almost 5 DAYS so I cut the dairy out yesterday and low and behold...she's back. I guess dairy just really does a number on me--even when it doesn't make me feel bad Calories are still kinda low but I'm trying to slowly up them. I think I was only at 900 yesterday so I need to add some major food in soon! I was full and satisfied all day though due to eating Paleo (fat and protein and veggies). Hope everyone has a great weekend! __________________ Nicole in beautiful Annapolis, MD

01-28-2012, 11:24 AM	#233
MemoryKeeper Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,221 Gallery: MemoryKeeper Stats: 233.5/153.5/133 WOE: Currently: JUDDDkins Start Date: 10/18/2011	I think I've really messed up on this fat fast. I've had way too many calories. So far I've had about 2000 calories, 70% fat. It's that the fattening things are so small and it's easy to eat a lot of it. I didn't notice the suggested calorie amount until after I ate the food. YIKES-A-RAMA! Oh well, there's nothing I can do about it now. I will just have to watch my last meal, and try to keep it "lighter." Riley I made the brownie bars you posted, with some tweaks: I posted it on the P2-P3 Thread __________________ Hugs from the heart, Jeanette Start Weight: 233.5 (06/05/2011) hcg 1 (Oct. 2011): 218/198 hcg 2 (Feb. 2012): 198/184 hcg 3 (April 2012): 184/167.5 hcg 4 (July 2012): 165.5/153.5 GOAL: 133.5 Last edited by MemoryKeeper; 01-28-2012 at 11:29 AM..

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01-27-2012, 06:37 AM	#213
msgirl Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: TX!!! Posts: 1,227 Gallery: msgirl Stats: 158.6/158.4/140 WOE: Stillmans AGAIN! Start Date: Many times..... currently 03/13/13	Last day of FF and Still the same today on the scale - so no movement in two days...but it is not the fat fast - instead I was awakened by TOM!!! I knew it...bloating and generally weak feeling and crabby for days. But, I have to say, it is a miracle I didn't gain....I had the pre-TOM munchies last night and my fat went above what I expected! SunnyFL - This actually gave me just what I needed for a boost - my body was totally stuck at 500 calories and would not let go of pounds. I added in fat then moved onto the fat fast - I did 3 days and I would say the pounds really did start moving. From last week until today I lost 4 pounds. That is not as significant as some but it was for me. Today I am going back to VLCD and am truly considering stopping drops on Sunday - I had hope to be at 140 but I think TOM stole my chances! I posted a lot of menus on this thread - but I ate: Two times: 8 0z GY, 1 tb CO, 1 TB of almond butter (that was my first day) I can't remember the 2nd day exactly but I know I had cream cheese, macadamia nuts, hwc, 3 eggs scrambled in butter, 4% cottage cheese The exact numbers and percentages are on the post I added here a couple of days ago. We do take the hcg while fat fasting. Good luck to you! The scale will move for you! I can feel it!

01-27-2012, 06:43 AM	#214
SunnyFL Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South FL Posts: 1,175 Gallery: SunnyFL Stats: 177/140/130 WOE: Lowcarb w/grains Start Date: October 2011	I'm going to have to reread the original post and try to make sense of the fat percentage and calories. I'm trying to use what I have here, which is eggs, butter, HWC, FAGE, cheese, Mac nuts, etc. I was going to quit pellets today and start P3 Sunday but I really don't want to stabilize in the upper 140's At this weight since I'm so petite, even several pounds are noticeable. Ideally getting to 140 would be the best but I don't know if I'll get there at all. I'm excited for eggs with butter!!!! are you doing two vlcd before going on to P3?

01-27-2012, 06:54 AM	#215
NP8559 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 331 Gallery: NP8559 Stats: S141/C131.6/G115/ 5'0 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 12/22/2011	Thank you sweet baby Jesus!! 132.6 today! That is 2.5 pounds down this week, for a total weight loss since January 3 of 12 pounds!! This WOE DOES work if you stick to it and don't give up and cheat. What a great way to start a Friday! Water does makea HUGE difference. I drink mine all at work too so I can relax in the evening. I cannot believe I have lost considering I have had a cupple vodka cocktails in the evening this week. I drink it with flavored seltzer water that is sweetened with splends so literally no carbs in these drinks just calories but the alcohol does slow fat burn. I have also been watching my cheese. I LOVE cheese and that is one reason I was attracted to this diet but it just doesnt help me. I do want to try the fat fast still and plan to incorporate working out next week. I say do what works for you and will keep you sane, losing weight is hard enough! Have a good weekend

01-27-2012, 06:55 AM	#216
NP8559 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 331 Gallery: NP8559 Stats: S141/C131.6/G115/ 5'0 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 12/22/2011	Rileyworm, My cream cheese muffins came out like a pudding, not solid at all, I had to eat with a spoon?!?

01-27-2012, 07:02 AM	#217
msgirl Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: TX!!! Posts: 1,227 Gallery: msgirl Stats: 158.6/158.4/140 WOE: Stillmans AGAIN! Start Date: Many times..... currently 03/13/13	sunny - I haven't totally decided yet about what I am gonna do moving into P3. If I can dump some more weight after TOM (that showed up today) then I will stay VLC (which today is my first day back). I had hoped to transition pretty quickly. However, if I don't lose the extra I will stay VLC for say 5 days, do FF, then my last two days of this round will be FF - which makes some sense going from say 700 calories to P3 would cause major tummy troubles for me - kind of like my first introduction to fat last week! I am just playing it by ear right now - sorry I couldn't be more help. Maybe someone else could chime in on this one. Congrats NP!

01-27-2012, 08:01 AM	#218
SunnyFL Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South FL Posts: 1,175 Gallery: SunnyFL Stats: 177/140/130 WOE: Lowcarb w/grains Start Date: October 2011	Ok made eggs with butter and HWC Coffee with 2 HWC (been doing it on P2) Planning the rest of my menu but the eggs tastes so good I was humming to myself as I ate LOL!!!

01-27-2012, 10:53 AM	#223
star a.d. Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 887 Gallery: star a.d. Stats: 235/203.5/165-off the wagon-247+/213/235/198/165 WOE: hHCG rogue...still figuring it out	someone posted the original atkins menu options for it earlier in the thread, actually. I don't know if I'd call that protocol, per se, but that's the business.

01-27-2012, 11:05 AM	#224
SunnyFL Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South FL Posts: 1,175 Gallery: SunnyFL Stats: 177/140/130 WOE: Lowcarb w/grains Start Date: October 2011	Riley and Garnet, I'm logging my fats and trying to keep it up! It's harder than it looks actually. Trying to sneak in HWC every chance I get! I'm making cream cheese muffins now actually. Do we know the calories/fat on those? Hmmm...I'm making mini ones. Might have to plug it in to caloriecount and see where it comes up.

01-27-2012, 11:42 AM	#225
LauraLovesLowCarb Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 8 Gallery: LauraLovesLowCarb Stats: 164 Jan 2010 / 129 Jan 2012 WOE: Eat Fat Get Thin Low Carb Start Date: January 2011	185 grams of Avocado (6.5 ounces) KCal = 340 Fat = 28.5 g. Carb = 16 g. Fiber = 12.5 g. Net Carb = 3.5 g. Protein = 3.6 g. I eat this every single day!

01-27-2012, 01:12 PM	#226
SunnyFL Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South FL Posts: 1,175 Gallery: SunnyFL Stats: 177/140/130 WOE: Lowcarb w/grains Start Date: October 2011	Are you ladies doing 800 calories or 1000 calories?

01-27-2012, 01:22 PM	#228
SunnyFL Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South FL Posts: 1,175 Gallery: SunnyFL Stats: 177/140/130 WOE: Lowcarb w/grains Start Date: October 2011	Ok I calculated 86 calories for my mini muffins (12 serving) I omitted the cocoa powder...but mine tasted a bit salty? Weird...still edible but I don't know what happened....maybe the cooking spray... Calories 86 Calories from Fat 67% Daily Value* Total Fat 7.4g 11% Saturated Fat 4.6g 23% Cholesterol 38mg Sodium 62mg Total Carbohydrates 2.3g Sugars 1.8g Protein 1.9g I am so full...trying to figure out dinner...maybe just one egg, I'm almost at 1000 calories

01-27-2012, 02:27 PM	#230
star a.d. Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 887 Gallery: star a.d. Stats: 235/203.5/165-off the wagon-247+/213/235/198/165 WOE: hHCG rogue...still figuring it out	I'd completely forgotten about those! great idea!

01-28-2012, 06:58 AM	#231
SunnyFL Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South FL Posts: 1,175 Gallery: SunnyFL Stats: 177/140/130 WOE: Lowcarb w/grains Start Date: October 2011	Hello hello!! Well after a really upset tummy ( ) I am down to 145.6!! It's not much, but I'll take the 5 oz. happily! I'll do the fat fast today and tomorrow and back to strict P2 on Monday (yes ladies, no HWC, sigh') I figure I'll do a strict P2 Monday - Thursday and start P3 on Sunday. Trying to find a way to up the fat today, ideas? I was at 83% fat yesterday and like 9 carbs... I went to bed starving and woke up starving!!! My tummy was like you'd better feed me woman!

01-28-2012, 11:15 AM	#232
RileyWorm Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,100 Gallery: RileyWorm	Metqa! Your cream cheese clouds look amazing! I wanted to make some but only have salted butter. I will definitely try your variations the next time!

01-28-2012, 11:47 AM	#235
SunnyFL Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South FL Posts: 1,175 Gallery: SunnyFL Stats: 177/140/130 WOE: Lowcarb w/grains Start Date: October 2011	Yea I did that, it was yummy, with some cocoa powder...but I'm still craving substance ya know? Thinking of tuna for dinner with a slice of bacon, or eggs with mayo...all I know is I have to eat dinner later tonight...I was SO hungry around 8:00, like hungry where your tummy actually hurts?!! I'm at 79% right now, so my dinner needs to count! So far I've had: 2 tbs hwc and coffee 2 eggs, 1/2 tbs hwc and 1 tbs butter (scrambled eggs) 3 mini cream cheese muffins Chocolate cheesecake mousse: 1/4 cup HWC with 1 oz cream cheese, 1/2 tbs cocoa powder, splenda for lunch. Dinner I think tuna salad but not sure yet

01-28-2012, 12:04 PM	#237
minimonkey Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,027 Gallery: minimonkey Stats: 5'0" -- very small frame WOE: Clean eating, whole foods	Memory Keeper -- that's easy to do with Fat Fasting -- I've let the calories creep up far too many times myself. You may still see a loss -- if not, no worries -- just keep it more controlled in the future. You really don't get to eat much volume of food with fat fasting, which is the big drawback to it.

01-28-2012, 12:07 PM	#238
SunnyFL Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South FL Posts: 1,175 Gallery: SunnyFL Stats: 177/140/130 WOE: Lowcarb w/grains Start Date: October 2011	I'm eating three meals...yesterday I spread it out and had mini meals but finished at 5:00 lol...I was so hungry! So today, I am trying three meals...trying to hold out for dinner around 6:30...let's see if I can get there...chugging lots of water!

01-28-2012, 12:40 PM	#239
minimonkey Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,027 Gallery: minimonkey Stats: 5'0" -- very small frame WOE: Clean eating, whole foods	Hi FFers -- I am actually NOT doing the fat fast -- or anything resembling it -- for the next week or so -- I am going to a slightly rogue version of protocol for a bit. I think I've gotten what I can from fat fasting for the moment, and my body adapts to it quickly -- so I am wanting to shake things up for a while -- well, not so much wanting to do it, as needing to do it. I think I need protein, badly, right now. I'll undoubtedly be back at some point in the near future though!

01-28-2012, 03:43 PM	#240
msgirl Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: TX!!! Posts: 1,227 Gallery: msgirl Stats: 158.6/158.4/140 WOE: Stillmans AGAIN! Start Date: Many times..... currently 03/13/13	I have moved over to rogue as well for the next few days as well. I thought tomorow was gonna be my LDD but, I have decided to keep on a little longer, maybe until the end of next week I have 5-7 pounds I am still trying to budge and that will determine the length of time I stay on. FF really did help me and I will continue to incorporate sporadically my 4% cottage cheese, HWC (in moderation) and CO. Sunnfl - keep it up!! Jeanette - On my last FF day I had a hard time keeping calories low as well - I ended up at 1300!!!! That wasn't intentional Good luck ladies! I will be checking in here as this is one of my fave threads!