**FAT FASTER'S THREAD**

[NP8559]

Hello Everyone!

Im back from vacation in New Orleans and we had a blast. I totally went off plan and had pasta, potatoes, sandwiches but this morning I was up only 3 pounds (135) after five days of going nuts...I am ok with that. I wanted to really enjoy this time with my family and we were moving around and doing so much stuff that I probably 'excercised' more in a week then I have in six months.

So today I am starting hard-core induction by the book again and will just keep motivated knowing I know this WOE works and that I will see results over the long haul as long as I stick to plan!

Actually I may do a three day FF on Monday, this really worked for me and I didn't feel hungry hardly at all!

Goal for this week is to be down 2 pounds to 133lbs. I am also cutting out alcohol since we boozed it up with the family and hopefully that will make a BIG difference.

Good Luck Everyone!

[shirleychef]

Metqa I've made yogurt from 100% raw cream and kept it raw... meaning I never allowed the heat to get about 110 degrees.... and it really didn't work well. I think it is because the yogurt cultures NEED some sugar to ferment properly. So I now always make sure I have a minimum of 1/4 milk - 1/2 milk in my ratio of cream to milk and I get a much nicer yogurt.

[shirleychef]

Originally Posted by NP8559

Hello Everyone!

Im back from vacation in New Orleans and we had a blast. I totally went off plan and had pasta, potatoes, sandwiches but this morning I was up only 3 pounds (135) after five days of going nuts...I am ok with that. I wanted to really enjoy this time with my family and we were moving around and doing so much stuff that I probably 'excercised' more in a week then I have in six months.

So today I am starting hard-core induction by the book again and will just keep motivated knowing I know this WOE works and that I will see results over the long haul as long as I stick to plan!

Actually I may do a three day FF on Monday, this really worked for me and I didn't feel hungry hardly at all!

Goal for this week is to be down 2 pounds to 133lbs. I am also cutting out alcohol since we boozed it up with the family and hopefully that will make a BIG difference.

Good Luck Everyone!

WOW!!! 3 pounds is GREAT!! How fun that you were able to maintain so well and enjoy your time with family!! That 3 pounds will melt off in no time!!

[shirleychef]

For those lurking and wondering what these crazy hcger's eat on a Fat Fast day.. here is today's menu for me:

1/4 whipping cream
1 cream cheese muffin
1 TBSP butter
2 eggs
1/4 cup macadamia nuts
1 piece of chocolate cheesecake
Total Calories 1209, 115 fat grams, total fat 89%

Drinking about 3-4 quarts of water a day and 1 quart of coffee with herbal tea here and there if I'm in the mood. I'm currently addicted to a concoction my hubby made up: Peppermint Patty Tea. We use peppermint tea and add vanilla cream & chocolate stevia's to it... YUMMY!

Have a super day everyone!

[metqa]

Hmm, Okay, ****** keeps telling me it's "tired". I guess a lot of people are dieting for the new year!

M'kay A few days in the life of Metqa's Totally Wrong and Rogue Plan. ( Also known as eat what you got plan) Not Fat Fast but still pretty darn high in Fat...

One day...
Cream Cheese Clouds - 6 mounds
Lean Beef Pumpkin Chili Supplemented with MCT oil to add Fat
1/4 cup shredded Cheddar Cheese
Oscar Mayor Cheese Dogs - 2
1168Kcal, Fat (71%) Carbs (10%) Protein (19%)

Another day...
3 Oopsie Danishes ( Oopsie with Cream cheese and fruit topping)
Cabbage and Sausage Soup - 2 one cup servings
Mushrooms fried in Ghee
1312Kcal, Fat (75%) Carbs (11%) Protein (13%)

Yet another...
2 Oopsie Danishes
Clouds - 4 mounds
Mushroom Salsa Omelete - eggs, Walmart Market place Salsa, 10Cal for a huge amount...
4 macadamia nuts
901 Kcal, Fat (78%) Carbs (8%) Protein (14%)

Yesterday I had
Clouds - 5
Kefir with MCT oil - 1 cup
1 oopsie Danish
2 Oz Macadamia nuts
a pot of Mushroom, Cabbage Soup( mushrooms and cabbage simmered in chicken broth, black pepper, boring but tasty)
1 FF hotdog
1339Kcal, Fat (76%) Carbs (14%) Protein (9%)

Today I'm planning:
(each smoothie has 2t of MCT oil added)
Strawberry Kiwi Kefir Smoothie ( whole milk homemade kefir, 3 strawberries, 1/2 kiwi)
Blueberry Pineapple Kefir Smoothie ( kefir, 1/4c berries, 1/4 cup fresh pineapple)
Blueberry Lemon Lime Kefir Smoothie ( Kefir, 1/4c berries, 1pkt each True Lemon and True Lime)
Clouds- 4* if I bother to make them today,
4 slices of Turkey bacon and 1 fried egg.

that will be 1283Kcal, Fat (75%) Carbs (12%) Protein (14%)

I've been losing .2K each day on these menus. that's about 0.44lb/day

[shirleychef]

Originally Posted by metqa

Hmm, Okay, ****** keeps telling me it's "tired". I guess a lot of people are dieting for the new year!

M'kay A few days in the life of Metqa's Totally Wrong and Rogue Plan. ( Also known as eat what you got plan) Not Fat Fast but still pretty darn high in Fat...

One day...
Cream Cheese Clouds - 6 mounds
Lean Beef Pumpkin Chili Supplemented with MCT oil to add Fat
1/4 cup shredded Cheddar Cheese
Oscar Mayor Cheese Dogs - 2
1168Kcal, Fat (71%) Carbs (10%) Protein (19%)

Another day...
3 Oopsie Danishes ( Oopsie with Cream cheese and fruit topping)
Cabbage and Sausage Soup - 2 one cup servings
Mushrooms fried in Ghee
1312Kcal, Fat (75%) Carbs (11%) Protein (13%)

Yet another...
2 Oopsie Danishes
Clouds - 4 mounds
Mushroom Salsa Omelete - eggs, Walmart Market place Salsa, 10Cal for a huge amount...
4 macadamia nuts
901 Kcal, Fat (78%) Carbs (8%) Protein (14%)

Yesterday I had
Clouds - 5
Kefir with MCT oil - 1 cup
1 oopsie Danish
2 Oz Macadamia nuts
a pot of Mushroom, Cabbage Soup( mushrooms and cabbage simmered in chicken broth, black pepper, boring but tasty)
1 FF hotdog
1339Kcal, Fat (76%) Carbs (14%) Protein (9%)

Today I'm planning:
(each smoothie has 2t of MCT oil added)
Strawberry Kiwi Kefir Smoothie ( whole milk homemade kefir, 3 strawberries, 1/2 kiwi)
Blueberry Pineapple Kefir Smoothie ( kefir, 1/4c berries, 1/4 cup fresh pineapple)
Blueberry Lemon Lime Kefir Smoothie ( Kefir, 1/4c berries, 1pkt each True Lemon and True Lime)
Clouds- 4* if I bother to make them today,
4 slices of Turkey bacon and 1 fried egg.

that will be 1283Kcal, Fat (75%) Carbs (12%) Protein (14%)

I've been losing .2K each day on these menus. that's about 0.44lb/day

OK..... I am SOOOO drooling... get a MOP!!! When these FFing days stop working I'm so doing a kefir day.... sounds WAY to yummy to me!!!

Isn't it funny.. I actually have times where I crave kefir horribly... I don't even need the berries, just a little vanilla cream stevia and I'm content. I think it is a cry from my body for the pro-biotics!!

[RileyWorm]

Up 2.5 pounds after yesterday, which sucks, but I expect it will come right off...hopefully...with today's fat fast.
B- coffee/cream, cheesecake
L-avocado with Ranch dressing
D- maybe bacon? and probably more HWC.

Tomorrow I plan to incorporate more protein, and if I need to drop more from last night's gain, then a GY day on Friday.

Welcome back Nicole! I was wondering where you went Sounds like you had a blast in New Orleans, and 3 pounds is NOTHING! That's awesome!

[metqa]

Originally Posted by shirleychef

OK..... I am SOOOO drooling... get a MOP!!! When these FFing days stop working I'm so doing a kefir day.... sounds WAY to yummy to me!!!

Isn't it funny.. I actually have times where I crave kefir horribly... I don't even need the berries, just a little vanilla cream stevia and I'm content. I think it is a cry from my body for the pro-biotics!!

I know what you mean! I drink it straight a lot of times, It's such a fizzy treat. Yesterdays kefir was as strong as lemon, I let it 2F for so long!! and I love it like that.

I'm using up some fresh fruit so decided to treat myself to the sweetness, even though it lowers my fat percentage. but only by a percent or two and well worth it!. Plus I find that if I drink the kefir plain, I keep wanting more. Somehow, having the flavored smoothie makes it easier to stop after a cup. Crazy huh?

[Missydee]

HI gang I stumbled upon this thread..been reading it all morning...WOW...I am amazed at the results of high fat while on HCG...OMG...really...that is super exciting!

I did several hcg rounds in 2009..did awesome..lost about 50 lbs..gained about 35 back with life..divorce, moving, stress..etc. It's my own fault..and I did not weigh each day. I am one of the lucky ones who breezed through P3's on high fat..my body loves it!

Thanks for sharing your knowledge..this has been eye opening and interesting...I am on vlcd 8 today..having good results...but like others, thinking of switching to FF when/if the results slow down.

Keep up the good work..and thanks again for the info!

[metqa]

Missy!

[Missydee]

Originally Posted by shirleychef

Yeah to all the LOSERS!!

I know tomorrow will be a good weigh in... before I showered I already weighed less than when I got up and I had drank 1 quart of water, 1 quart of coffee and had a cream cheese muffin. :-)

Wahoo... onward and forward.

Today marks the 1 yr anniversary of the start of my weight loss journey. I weighed 235 on Feb 14, 2011... Today the scale said... 149.8.. but I'm thinking 148 in my head due to yesterday's weight and my post potty/eating weight. I'm claiming 87 pounds down in one year. WOW! I wrote an article on my blog entitled "Reflections..." if you want to walk through some of the thoughts on this past year... hop over and read it.

Reese Ramblings: Rounds, Recipes, and Real Life

Have a Happy Valentines Day everyone!

WOW..I just went over to your blog...GIRL..you have kicked some a**! I just got started reading and saw your pictures..you are an inspiration
I can't wait to read more..... THANKS!

[shirleychef]

Originally Posted by Missydee

WOW..I just went over to your blog...GIRL..you have kicked some a**! I just got started reading and saw your pictures..you are an inspiration
I can't wait to read more..... THANKS!

Thank you Missydee... I've hinted on my blog that I'm being a bit rogue... but I have such a large following there, and on many Dr. S stricty yahoo groups, AND at this point cannot prove that my rogue behavior this round will result in a stable ending so I'm not discussing it there... if a few months down the road all is peachy... which I believe it will be... I'll tell all!

I'm very excited about how I feel on the FF..... I was planning to return to strict VLCD for 21 days but after about a 20 min conversation with hubby this morning about all the information my brain is processing (more to come on that) AND the fact that I'm at a healthy weight and did 33 days STRICT VLCD at the start of this round.... I might not ever again return to the strict VLCD. I might finish out this round rotating between FFing, EFGT, and VLCD.... or a JUDDD type of rotation when the losses slow... so totally not sure yet... I DO know that I feel great and love watching me shrink! So for now taking it one day at a time while I'm trying to piece together all the info that I'm currently researching re: hypothalamus, leptin, SIRT1 gene, and fat's relationship to each of these. I don't think I'm smart enough to process all of this but I'm doing my best ...... we'll see where it gets me.... I know one thing for sure.. the end result will be my body where it needs to be and a lifetime maintenance plan that I can live with.

[TerriMM]

Originally Posted by shirleychef

Thank you Missydee... I've hinted on my blog that I'm being a bit rogue... but I have such a large following there, and on many Dr. S stricty yahoo groups, AND at this point cannot prove that my rogue behavior this round will result in a stable ending so I'm not discussing it there... if a few months down the road all is peachy... which I believe it will be... I'll tell all!

I'm very excited about how I feel on the FF..... I was planning to return to strict VLCD for 21 days but after about a 20 min conversation with hubby this morning about all the information my brain is processing (more to come on that) AND the fact that I'm at a healthy weight and did 33 days STRICT VLCD at the start of this round.... I might not ever again return to the strict VLCD. I might finish out this round rotating between FFing, EFGT, and VLCD.... or a JUDDD type of rotation when the losses slow... so totally not sure yet... I DO know that I feel great and love watching me shrink! So for now taking it one day at a time while I'm trying to piece together all the info that I'm currently researching re: hypothalamus, leptin, SIRT1 gene, and fat's relationship to each of these. I don't think I'm smart enough to process all of this but I'm doing my best ...... we'll see where it gets me.... I know one thing for sure.. the end result will be my body where it needs to be and a lifetime maintenance plan that I can live with.

You're torturing me girl!

Hi Missy, Welcome!

[Missydee]

Thanks girls for the warm welcome

Shirley..I know what you mean about being Rogue. After my very first 2 rounds done strictly by the book I went rogue. I have found that we need to do what works for us..and us only. We are all individuals and not the same WOE works for everyone.

I tell ya..today is VLCD 8 and I am down 10 lbs..but I am HUNGRY today..not sure if it is because I read this thread from start to finish (mmmmm..the menus are yummy!) or what! I've had decent losses...today was the smallest at .2- at least it was NOT a gain...or a big goose egg. I will follow you guys daily....thanks again for the info!!

[dazygyrl]

i had some of my yogurt last evening. tasted very good. it wasn't very tangy at all. i think it could have sat longer. it sat over 12 hrs. does the not so tanginess mean there is still a lot of lactose in it not converted?

[shirleychef]

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

i had some of my yogurt last evening. tasted very good. it wasn't very tangy at all. i think it could have sat longer. it sat over 12 hrs. does the not so tanginess mean there is still a lot of lactose in it not converted?

I'm not sure I know the Specific Carb Dieters say to ferment for at least 24 hours to make sure that all the sugars are gobbled up.

I personally think the tanginess is a combination of the starter you chose and the length of fermentation.

[shirleychef]

Woke up to another good loss .8... I'm in virgin loss territory now.

Here is a chart of my losses since I re-entered phase 2 after my Planned Interruption:

34 2/6/2012 156.40first VLCD
35 2/7/2012 154.40VLCD
36 2/8/2012 153.20VLCD
37 2/9/2012 151.80VLCD
38 2/10/2012 151.80VLCD
39 2/11/2012 151.80first FF day
40 2/12/2012 150.80FF
41 2/13/2012 148.80FF (ate at Olive Garden for dinner)
42 2/14/2012 149.80FF (OG bump on the scale)
43 2/15/2012 147.80FF
44 2/16/2012 147.00FF

I was VERY bad on my planned interruption and ate sugar an starch AND had TOM at the same time. . So I gained from 149.8 up to the 156.4. So now I've lost all that plus more! I've never weighed this little in my adult life!

So my first 5 days of VLCD yielded -4.6 loss, my first 5 FF days have yielded -4.8 loss. I'm doing FF for today.. and will see what the scale says tomorrow then determine if I need to bounce back over into the VLCD for a few days-week or if I'll continue going one day at a time with FFing. My end round goal is 130-135.

[dazygyrl]

congrats, shirley on VT!!

[TerriMM]

WTG Shirley

[shirleychef]

For those of you who have done FF....I have a question.

For the past 3 days I've had no hunger... today I'm having hunger, not bad... but I'm hungry and I already had 1/4 cup whipping cream, 1 cream cheese muffin, and 1/2 cup GY with 1 TBSP added cream & 1 TBSP raspberries ... should I just try to keep my cals between 1200-1300 like the past couple of days and guzzle water & tea or is it worth it to try to add some protein which would bump up my cals to like 1500 for what I have planned for today? I guess the scale will tell me tomorrow if it was a good idea... but I'm wondering what you all have done with success.

[RileyWorm]

Originally Posted by shirleychef

For those of you who have done FF....I have a question.

For the past 3 days I've had no hunger... today I'm having hunger, not bad... but I'm hungry and I already had 1/4 cup whipping cream, 1 cream cheese muffin, and 1/2 cup GY with 1 TBSP added cream & 1 TBSP raspberries ... should I just try to keep my cals between 1200-1300 like the past couple of days and guzzle water & tea or is it worth it to try to add some protein which would bump up my cals to like 1500 for what I have planned for today? I guess the scale will tell me tomorrow if it was a good idea... but I'm wondering what you all have done with success.

I have gone as high as 1500 calories on FF, but protein hinders my losses big time...I used to eat a lot of eggs/butter, but I had to cut the eggs out...Every day is a new day for me, though, I can never predict what will work and what won't. Good luck!
Off the FF, today I am doing a regular "P3" day as an in between CD, (gain from V-da7) tomorrow is Greek Yogurt, baby! I am going to start a Greek Yogurt thread for all of you who make your own, please give me your tips and hints, tricks, etc, etc!!

[metqa]

I eat if I'm hungry. I'm a reprobate dieter for that reason. I don't feel guilty if I have more calories, cause hunger is a signal. It takes effort to recognize if it's physical or psychological hunger, but I try to eat what I'm craving, so if I'm hungry for meat, I'll have a bit of meat, if I'm hungry for fat, I'll have fat, hungry for carbs, a wee bit but with Fat to fill in.

On Fat Fast I think a bit more protein might help, as it might be needed in the body to keep you BS stable, y'know with ketosis/gluconeo and all that jazzz....

[minimonkey]

I will be a fat-fasting-fool on p3 ladies -- can't wait for that

For now, just watching and drooling, while I do my near-protocol round.... and cheering you ladies on!

[shirleychef]

Hello.... My name is Shirley...... and I'm addicted to cream...............

Ugghhhh!!: sad: I could not resist ... can you say FAT FEAST instead of FAT FAST!

Did I mention that I got 5 gallons of cream from the cows this morning plus I still had 1 1/2 gallons from Monday left.... so I made strawberry ice cream, vanilla ice cream, chocolate cream cheese clouds, kefired cream, and creamy broc & cauli soup w/ bacon... and I sampled ALL of it.... no that is a lie.... I ATE all of it... At least everything was sugar free... well, there were real strawberries in the strawberry ice cream but thankfully they aren't a high sugar fruit. All this stuff I made with stevia or stevia and a little xylitol.

BELCH!

Plus I drank over a gallon of water today... I feel like my face looks like a balloon!!!

Do you ever feel like that when you have a horrible food day??? Do you feel like if you look in the mirror that old obese person will be staring right back at you instead of the thinner you you've become??

I do not think I will weigh tomorrow.

[RileyWorm]

Originally Posted by shirleychef

Hello.... My name is Shirley...... and I'm addicted to cream...............

Ugghhhh!!: sad: I could not resist ... can you say FAT FEAST instead of FAT FAST!

Did I mention that I got 5 gallons of cream from the cows this morning plus I still had 1 1/2 gallons from Monday left.... so I made strawberry ice cream, vanilla ice cream, chocolate cream cheese clouds, kefired cream, and creamy broc & cauli soup w/ bacon... and I sampled ALL of it.... no that is a lie.... I ATE all of it... At least everything was sugar free... well, there were real strawberries in the strawberry ice cream but thankfully they aren't a high sugar fruit. All this stuff I made with stevia or stevia and a little xylitol.

BELCH!

Plus I drank over a gallon of water today... I feel like my face looks like a balloon!!!

Do you ever feel like that when you have a horrible food day??? Do you feel like if you look in the mirror that old obese person will be staring right back at you instead of the thinner you you've become??

I do not think I will weigh tomorrow.

There is nothing wrong with that in my eyes! If I had fresh cream I would be a total addict also...I'm bad enough with the store-bought stuff.
And I always think that after eating too much/cheating/etc that I will see my old self...when I see skinny-me I still don't hardly recognize myself, and it's been a year!

Mini, we will welcome you back with open arms! You are the original leader of this group, after all!

We will see what the scale says tomorrow, I will probably be back to FF next week after a weekend trip to Costco for more cream and cream cheese.

[SueQ]

I got to that hungry point with the fat fast after only 3 days. I'm impressed you have been able to stay on it so long. I'm thinking your body really needed that. Mine did for two days, then it wanted PROTEIN, it was screaming!! VLCD's feel really good now and I dropped 1.2 lbs the day after I started back, and ended up net zero loss or gain from the experience. Maybe your body is ready for a change? Only you know.

I am hoping this 1.2 loss is a start of a few days of week 1 type losses. That would be very stinking cool!

And I did have a binge too, the last night of my FF, so don't fret too much about it. I gained, but it came right off the next day. Congrats on the weight loss and being in virgin territory!!!!!!!!!!! You totally rock.

[metqa]

Hmmph! I'll bet you lose a pound tomorrow! [jealous of all that cream]

[shirleychef]

Well... I did not weigh immediately upon rising but after eating and drinking was obviously higher than yesterday. So today is one last FF day. I'm going to try to stick as close to 1000-1200 cal's as possible to kick the body into fat burning mode, then back to the VLCD for me. If I end up hitting a bad stall I might bounce back over for a FF. My last dose will be March 8th whether I hit goal or not.

Off to appointments today so I have macadamia nuts in my purse and my jug of water!

Have a SUPER day everyone!

[TerriMM]

Well I'm done with FF for the time being. Kind of lost my focus and motivation this week and softening the rules too much so it’s not getting me anywhere. Today I have a family luncheon so I'll do low carb on the high fat side of things. Tomorrow I'm jumping back to P2 to finish DH's round with him for another week or so then off the P3 land. I hope to be at goal by then. We'll see. I’m still doing pellets and have not stopped through all of this. I'm hoping since I've been on FF for so long (two weeks) I might experience some of those first week losses P2 is known for. I'll let you know how it goes.

Thank you everyone for your insight and support!!

[SueQ]

It's day two of good losses after my 2 day fat fast. Lost another lb today, so I have high hopes for everyone hoping to have the same results! Something did kick in