**FAT FASTER'S THREAD**

[minimonkey]

Whoohoo Star! That is an excellent whoosh!

I miss my fat fasts already! I'll probably hit them again in a few days myself. My body was screaming for protein, I think... so I am doing that for a few days.

[Trishagrrl]

Originally Posted by RileyWorm

I lost 10 pounds doing protocol - cheated and stalled for a day, gained almost a full pound, stalled the rest of the week. Then I tried the Fat Fast - I lost 5 pounds on my 3 day fat fast, then lost another 1.5 during 4 days of protocol. THEN, I cheated, the scale wavered slightly UP (not a whole pound, I don't think.) So fat fasting again, probably until I run out of my cream cheese and bacon. I have 8 pounds to go til I hit my 1st goal of 130, then I'm going to evaluate if I wanna go for another 5. (I'm 5'4.5"). This round has been Hell for cheating. I think it's easier to do HCG (for me) in the winter because we have few social events going on. But this time, it's been a lot harder. My first cheat was alcohol induced and my 2nd cheat was a friend's birthday dinner. I've finally accepted the fact that this round will be a little longer than I planned but I'm NOT stopping until I hit goal. How about you?

Sounds like you've had a great round overall! I have a long way to go until goal. My first big goal is my pre-preg weight which is about 25 pounds away and then I'd like to lose about 25 more pounds. Breaking it up sounds so much more manageable though, than saying I have 50 pounds to lose . I've had a terrible time trying to get the weight off while nursing. If I could even just get most of the pregnancy weight (which is more accurately nursing weight, since the preg weight almost all came off within the first couple of weeks) off I would be happy and probably just work to maintain until my babies were weaned, at which point I'd work on getting the next 25 off.

[RileyWorm]

Originally Posted by minimonkey

Riley -- you are going gangbusters right now! Congrats!

Good luck getting all the way to goal -- those last pounds can be something of a bear for some of us to get off... I hope you sail right through them.

Thanks! sometimes it feels I'm going good and other times I feel like I've hit a brick wall. If it weren't for you and Trisha talking about the fat fasts I probably would have either given up or else gone insane. This is about where I stopped the last time, thinking I could get to goal without hcg. Of course that never happened. I am bound and determined because I remember how frustrated I was last year.

[RileyWorm]

Originally Posted by Trishagrrl

Sounds like you've had a great round overall! I have a long way to go until goal. My first big goal is my pre-preg weight which is about 25 pounds away and then I'd like to lose about 25 more pounds. Breaking it up sounds so much more manageable though, than saying I have 50 pounds to lose . I've had a terrible time trying to get the weight off while nursing. If I could even just get most of the pregnancy weight (which is more accurately nursing weight, since the preg weight almost all came off within the first couple of weeks) off I would be happy and probably just work to maintain until my babies were weaned, at which point I'd work on getting the next 25 off.

You can do it! Is this your first time with hcg? I don't remember...I had lost 40 pounds in 2 rounds so you can definitely achieve your goals. I gained 10 during the holidays plus about another 5 prior to that so trying to lose that plus some.

[RileyWorm]

Originally Posted by star a.d.

2 LB WHOOSH!!!

I may do this for another day! I am going to make it a bit more protein-y though. my stomach is rebelling a bit after my breakfast of cream cheese clouds.

YAAAYY!! congrats on the whoosh!

[Trishagrrl]

Originally Posted by RileyWorm

You can do it! Is this your first time with hcg? I don't remember...I had lost 40 pounds in 2 rounds so you can definitely achieve your goals. I gained 10 during the holidays plus about another 5 prior to that so trying to lose that plus some.

Nope, I did hhcg before getting pregnant with my twinsies and lost just shy of 40 pounds. I had about 25 more I wanted to lose. But last time I did it I was in the process of weaning my 2nd son and the weight was coming off a lot easier than this time.

[RileyWorm]

Originally Posted by Trishagrrl

Nope, I did hhcg before getting pregnant with my twinsies and lost just shy of 40 pounds. I had about 25 more I wanted to lose. But last time I did it I was in the process of weaning my 2nd son and the weight was coming off a lot easier than this time.

I thought so. That's awesome!!!

[Kiki373]

So I decided I am going to start the fat fast tomorrow instead of waiting until Tuesday.

How does this menu look? I am going to do this 2 days in a row and change it up a bit on the 3rd day. I was having a hard time getting my fat percentages higher than 82%


Breakfast
1 Large Egg, 1/2 TBSP butter and 1/2 TBSP of duke's mayo
1 Chocolate Cream Cheese Muffins

Lunch
Same as breakfast

Dinner
2 Large Eggs, 1/2 TBSP butter and 1 TBSP duke's mayo
1/8 cup of ground almonds fried w/ 1 TBSP cinnamon and 1/2 TBSP butter
(I didn't have whole almonds just ground almonds from last round)


My total calories for the day are 987 with 82% fat, 4% carbs, and 14% protein.

[RileyWorm]

Originally Posted by Kiki373

So I decided I am going to start the fat fast tomorrow instead of waiting until Tuesday.

How does this menu look? I am going to do this 2 days in a row and change it up a bit on the 3rd day. I was having a hard time getting my fat percentages higher than 82%


Breakfast
1 Large Egg, 1/2 TBSP butter and 1/2 TBSP of duke's mayo
1 Chocolate Cream Cheese Muffins

Lunch
Same as breakfast

Dinner
2 Large Eggs, 1/2 TBSP butter and 1 TBSP duke's mayo
1/8 cup of ground almonds fried w/ 1 TBSP cinnamon and 1/2 TBSP butter
(I didn't have whole almonds just ground almonds from last round)


My total calories for the day are 987 with 82% fat, 4% carbs, and 14% protein.

This has worked for me! Good luck and here's to a WHOOSH tomorrow, I mean Tuesday morning! And what are fried almonds? I must know!

[Kiki373]

Originally Posted by RileyWorm

This has worked for me! Good luck and here's to a WHOOSH tomorrow, I mean Tuesday morning! And what are fried almonds? I must know!

I've have a recipe to fry nuts in butter, cinnamon, and a little sweetner. I am just not sure where it is at the moment. Pobably in my P3 recipe book. My ground almonds (which I made for almond flour instead of purchasing it at a store)are probably going to end up being mushy since there really isn't any substenance to them but oh well, I wanted to get something else in to try. I tried this recipe with walnuts before (which I find rather bland tasting by themselves). They taste really good that way.

[star a.d.]

ooh, please share the fried nuts recipe when you find it!

[Kiki373]

I can't seem to find the fried nuts recipe, maybe I read it somewhere but never printed it out. Here is what I do: Put some butter in a pan and melt it, add the almonds, cinnamon, and sugar substitute and cook them until they look coated in cinnamon and sugar. Sorry I don't have any specific measurements, I am one of those people who only measures ingredients when I have to.

I did ok on the fat fast today. I did find myself hungrier than what I was just doing plain HCG but I have SO enjoyed the fats

Has everyone been drinking their normal water (1 - 2 liters) per day while doing the fat fast? I did find that I am thirstier now than just doing protocol.

[Trishagrrl]

Another fat fast day for me, but it wasn't as good of a day as yesterday. Yesterday I was able to keep my % at 90%, but today only came out to 70%. I was a bit high on the protein, but I figure better that than carbs, right?

Regarding water... I've been continuing to drink a gallon a day and haven't noticed any changes in thirst.

[SunnyFL]

So I'm back on P2...I only lost 2 oz on yesterdays FF, which is fine. I lost 2.5 pounds total in the three days which would have taken me two weeks to do at the rate I was going lol!

I start P3 Thursday, hope I stabilize well. Good luck ladies on your losses

[RileyWorm]

I am definitely making fried almonds tomorrow! Tomorrow will be day 3 and i am sick of eggs but maxxed out on grocery budget until thursday. I really want chicken thighs and avocadoes! My counts have been slightly off due to unforeseen circumstances and my only option was cheese. And today i had three bites of coffee cake. Drat. Still gonna keep on trucking.
I would say my thirst has been the same but i could see it increasing if u r eating saltier foods, ie salted butter, cheese, bacon...i am always crazy thirsty. Lol.

[RileyWorm]

Originally Posted by SunnyFL

So I'm back on P2...I only lost 2 oz on yesterdays FF, which is fine. I lost 2.5 pounds total in the three days which would have taken me two weeks to do at the rate I was going lol!

I start P3 Thursday, hope I stabilize well. Good luck ladies on your losses

Yay for the loss! Enjoy p3!

[Kiki373]

Day 1 of FF complete and only down .2 to 129.8 (which makes my last 4 days losses at .6, .4, .4, and .2) I will do one more day of FF to see if I get a WOOSH and if not - I'm going back to strict protocol for my remaining 6 days. I only have 7 more days of pellets left and really want to get to 120. I am a tad concerned it's not going to happen! Last round I was stuck in the 129's for 5 days

[MemoryKeeper]

Here's hoping for a big one for you! This is my second round and it's been completely different and a lot more challenging!! Hang in there!

[NP8559]

I was home sick yesterday and cheated terribly! We are talking McDonalds meal and ice cream and noodle soup! But that was one day and I have lost 12lbs total since Jan. 3 and want to loose an additonal 10 by March 8th (my birthday) which is doable and I am motivated. I won't let one day of poor choices derail me and make me give up.

So today until Thursday I am doing the Atkins Fat fast and going to see what results I get with that. No more drinking or cheating. Then Friday I plan to weigh and measure..wish me luck!

B-shake- 1oz cream cheese, 1 lg egg, 4tbs heavy cream, sf syrup
S: Macadamia nuts 1oz
L-2 TBS Mayo & 3oz can tuna
S:macadamia nuts 1oz
D- 2oz cream cheese mixed with 4tbs heavy whipping cream
80% fat and 1056 Calories

[RileyWorm]

Originally Posted by NP8559

I was home sick yesterday and cheated terribly! We are talking McDonalds meal and ice cream and noodle soup! But that was one day and I have lost 12lbs total since Jan. 3 and want to loose an additonal 10 by March 8th (my birthday) which is doable and I am motivated. I won't let one day of poor choices derail me and make me give up.

So today until Thursday I am doing the Atkins Fat fast and going to see what results I get with that. No more drinking or cheating. Then Friday I plan to weigh and measure..wish me luck!

B-shake- 1oz cream cheese, 1 lg egg, 4tbs heavy cream, sf syrup
S: Macadamia nuts 1oz
L-2 TBS Mayo & 3oz can tuna
S:macadamia nuts 1oz
D- 2oz cream cheese mixed with 4tbs heavy whipping cream
80% fat and 1056 Calories

Good luck! I always want McDonald's when I am sick too, wonder why? McNuggets and chocolate shakes. Weird!

[RileyWorm]

Originally Posted by Kiki373

Day 1 of FF complete and only down .2 to 129.8 (which makes my last 4 days losses at .6, .4, .4, and .2) I will do one more day of FF to see if I get a WOOSH and if not - I'm going back to strict protocol for my remaining 6 days. I only have 7 more days of pellets left and really want to get to 120. I am a tad concerned it's not going to happen! Last round I was stuck in the 129's for 5 days

Bummer! Maybe one more day and you'll get your WHOOSH!

[RileyWorm]

I am totally unprepared for my fat fast today so my food choices are pretty un-kosher. I am sick of eggs! My % is still pretty high but gotta make my dinner really count today. But, I'm down another 1.5 pounds, wavering slightly above 136. Yay!

[NP8559]

Originally Posted by RileyWorm

I am totally unprepared for my fat fast today so my food choices are pretty un-kosher. I am sick of eggs! My % is still pretty high but gotta make my dinner really count today. But, I'm down another 1.5 pounds, wavering slightly above 136. Yay!

what is your FF menu today?

[libbby]

I've been lurking this thread for a week! I decided, due to all your input(s), I was going to try it. I've been stalled at 189 for about 2 weeks.
Thought I'd share some inspiration I got from doing lots of research yesterday on other sites.
From a blog response to FF:
" Jannine said...
I'm glad there's someone out here giving the seemingly crazy Fat Fast some credibility. I'm a 24-year-old female who occasionally (like once a year) turns to this diet for quick and easy weight loss. I typically lose 8-9 pounds when I Fat Fast for a week. I know I shouldn't be using this diet because I'm already slim, but when your goal weight is only 10 pounds less than your natural weight, you really don't want to spend a painstaking month watching everything you eat and slaving away on a Stairmaster, you know? And it's so easy; I mean, you're never hungry, the grocery bill is next to nothing, and making little bacon-and-cream-cheese rolls is just plain fun.
Nothing else on Earth is gonna make me lose that much weight that quickly. I admit it, I'm a lazy ******. LOL"
...now I did read that going more than 5 days is very unhealthy due to lack of protein....
I have a few others that I'll post separately -- don't want to overload our underfed brains!

[libbby]

Now this one is long, granted, but full of good stuff for the 'fat fasters'(It's coming from an Atkin's gal who gets bored on the fat fast but why she does it(and then onto some FF boredom-busters") --

"Why? Because it works for me. If I am not in ketosis when I start the Fat Fast, I am when it's over. If I am having cravings to beat the band and hanging on by the skin of my teeth, when the Fat Fast is over the cravings are G - O - N - E and I'm perfectly happy to go back to munching on chicken legs and salads. If I've hit a plateau and stopped losing weight, my weight loss is jump started.

I've done the Fat Fast a half a dozen times in the last three years, and each time I have lost between 5 and 8 pounds during the three-day cycle. After I go back to eating normal low carb, I gain 2 to 4 of those pounds back, but have always ended up with a net loss for the 3-day period of between 2 to 4 pounds. (Your experience may be different from mine. The only way to find out for sure is to try it.)

Of course, a lot of people don't even consider doing the Fat Fast to get into ketosis or to break a stall because they can't stand the idea of subsisting on plain cream cheese and/or macadamia nuts for 3 days. I don't know about you, but I would be more likely to be able to cut off my big toe with a dull paring knife than I would be able to gag down 10 ounces of plain cream cheese. My throat closes up at the very thought. And I don't particularly like macadamia nuts, either.

I have developed a list of alternative food choices for the Fat Fast, which I've listed below. Some of them don't quite come up to the "90% of the calories from fat" parameter, but they come close enough and have worked for me.

Fat Fast Ideas And Recipes (Atkins Fat Fast Menu)

There is one further plus to the Fast Fast which I haven't mentioned. There is very little food preparation involved. None of the ideas or recipes listed below will take you more than 5 minutes to prepare.

1/4 cup heavy or whipping cream in a large mug of coffee (I use this to jump start my day and prevent abuse of those near and sometimes dear to me. In the summer I make it the night before and put it in the refrigerator, then pour it over ice. You could also pour it into popsicle molds and freeze it for Coffee Fat Fasticles. Yum!)

4 strips of bacon

Peanut Butter Cream Cheese
1 ounce cream cheese
1 tablespoon sugar free peanut butter
1 tablespoon heavy or whipping cream
10 drops Liquid Sweet & Low (or artificial sweetener of your choice)
1/8 teaspoon ground cinnamon
Blend all ingredients in a small bowl.

Serves 1. Approximately 208 calories.

***Note: If you life this one, make up several servings at one time and stick them into the refrigerator in custard cups for individual servings. That way you only have one cleanup.

2 ounces of cream cheese stuffed in one large celery stalk

1/2 pork rinds with 2 ounces of sour cream

Pork Rinds With Sour Cream Dip (This is not my recipe - Judi (Island Girl) forwarded it to me.)
1/2 ounce plain pork rinds (1/6 of 3-ounce bag)
1/4 cup sour cream
1 tablespoon grated parmesan cheese
Blend parmesan into sour cream and use as dip for pork rinds

Without Parmesan: 164 calories, 8 grams fat (79%)

With Parmesan: 187 calories, 15 grams fat (77%)


2 tablespoons of sugar free peanut butter on an approximately 7 1/2-inch stalk of celery.

1/4 cup heavy or whipping cream, whipped, sweetened with artificial sweetener, and flavored with vanilla or some other extract.

2 ounces of sour cream on approximately 1/2 cup sliced cucumber.

Tuna or chicken salad with triple the usually amount of mayonnaise.

I cook the bejeebers out of a whole chicken in the crockpot until the meat is literally falling off the bones, then shred the meat and save it for chicken salad or for soups. I strain the broth carefully (watch for small bones!) and freeze it.

I will usually reuse the broth to cook more than one chicken, which results in a superb, flavorful extra-strength broth which is great to sip on if you're sick.

2 egg yolks mashed up with lots of mayonnaise, salt, and pepper (like you would for deviled eggs), but eaten plain or with a few pork rinds, cucumber slices, or a celery stick

Peanut Butter Pudding (This is Rani Merens' recipe.)
2 tablespoons of sour cream
1 teaspoon sugar free peanut butter
Splenda (to taste)
Combine all the ingredients. This thickens up magnificently, and can either be eaten "as is" or partially frozen, but don't let it get rock hard unless you just want to suck on it.

***Note: If you life this one, make up several servings at one time and stick them into the refrigerator in custard cups for individual servings. That way you only have one cleanup.

1/4 cup heavy or whipping cream in a can of diet soda (any flavor)

1/2 package sugar free Jell-O in 1/2 cup whipped heavy or whipping cream

1/4 cup heavy or whipping cream, whipped, with 1 teaspoon unsweetened cocoa powder and a few drops of liquid artificial sweetener added (to taste).

***Note: If you life this one, make up several servings at one time and stick them into the refrigerator in custard cups for individual servings. That way you only have one cleanup.

Jell-O Whip (Someone named Chris sent this to me a couple of years ago.)
1 small package sugar free Jell-O (any flavor)
1/2 cup boiling water
4 ice cubes
8 ounces cream cheese, at room temperature and cut into cubes
4 tablespoons heavy or whipping cream
Dissolve the Jell-O completely in the boiling water, then add the ice cubes to cool it down and to thicken it.

When the ice cubes are melted, pour the gelatin mixture in the blender and add the cutup cream cheese. Whirl it around until the ingredients are completely blended. Pour the mixture into a mixing bowl.

Whip the four ounces of cream, then fold it into the cream cheese mixture.

Divide the mixture into 5 equal portions, cover each with plastic wrap, and put them in the refrigerator to chill.

This makes 5 servings, or all the you need for one day of the Fat Fast. Of course, you wouldn't have to eat all 5 servings in one day. You could alternate them with other food choices.

Cream Cheese Jell-O Chunks (Someone sent me this idea, too, but I've misplaced their name).

10 ounces cream cheese, cut into 20 equal squares (Not softened!) 1 small packet sugar free Jell-O, any flavor

Pour the dry gelatin powder into a small bowl or onto a salad plate. Set aside.

Roll the 20 cream cheese squares into balls. Roll each ball in the dry gelatin mixture. Place the coated balls on a plate, cover them with plastic wrap, and put them in the refrigerator until you're ready to eat them

Each Fat Fast serving is 4 balls."

[libbby]

That's it from research--started this am with 1 oz. of macadamia nuts. Will have tuna w/mayo for next 200 cal.
I discovered a few items that should make this easier --
boursin cheese spread(LOVE IT!)--it is almost all fat(110 of 120 cal). I bought cracked pepper. Will load it onto a celery.
And I'm thinking of frying mozzerella(patty-like), putting a smidge of canned pizza sauce(regular contadina-low carb and low sugar) add pepperoni slices and bake in toaster oven. Sounds good, probably smallish to stay inside 200 calorie, but yum! Will probably save for tonight. Will let you know how it works!

[libbby]

This seems like such a good combo with the ps2 part of the hcg diet (I'm in the middle of my 2nd 40 day round). Our systems are basically clean, from our VLC diet. We should have immediate results. I would think a 3 day cycle now and again could help the distress of the dreaded stall. I would imagine that our bodies would catch on after a time -- mine did with atkins. The first time I did it, the weight dropped off(like 40 pounds) and I ate tons. A few years later, no way. After a few days, my body knew exactly what was happening and clung to every pound. HCG has been working and I'm excited to pair it with this!

[RileyWorm]

Originally Posted by NP8559

what is your FF menu today?

I've been roughing it today because haven't actually counted cals or measured anything out--but, I tried the fried almonds, they were good but I need to experiment a bit. Then for lunch I had some cheese again....I've been having lots of cheese the past few days so I need to stop that since I've been guesstimating cals and quantities. Tonight I'm having something with cream cheese and peanut butter. I've been eating lots of peanut butter too.

[TerriMM]

Fellow lurker here. Excellent reserch Libby, thanks for sharing. I'm going to be trying this when I hid my 2/3 week stall.

[RileyWorm]

libbby,
Thanks for joining us and for all of the great recipes/info! I've been wanting cream cheese/peanut butter and you gave me some good ideas!

Since I don't have class tonight I will be able to prepare my foods and figure out my cals better for tomorrow.