P2 Simeons Protocol Week 1/9-1/15

[Marocka]

VLCD 2, 197.4, -3.6...load gain +1.4 GONE!! AGAIN!! HAHA

Happy Friday everyone!!

[Nicole T]

VLCD 11 and down another 1.5 lbs! THAT was totally unexpected today since I had 2 major losses in the past 3 days. I am now 3 oz away from Virgin Fat Territory!!! My last round I got to 165.4 and called it a day. Today I was 165.7 Maybe I will make it to 160 by the end of this round after all! And here I was worried I wouldn't lose today since I had a little more half and half yesterday than I usually do (1.5 T in the morning and 1.5 T later in the day at Starbucks).

So far, Friday the 13th has been good to me Going to See Christopher Cross in concert with my boyfriend tonight...can anyone say "Sailing"??? Only one of my favorite songs of ALL time!

[catkin]

Stayed the same! With less than 10 to go, I am not surprised. I'm mentally preparing for a longer P2--hopefully my last!

Peppermint.

Have you tried tweaking your dosage? You should NOT be having the hunger you describe.

As has been said before, we cannot use others' losses as a standard for our own, we set ourselves for disappointment when we do that. Yes it is hard no to--and believe me, we have all done it--but we simply cannot.

I can't recall if you said you measured. If so, re-measure and compare. Simeons Protocol is called Pounds & Inches. Many times people find they have lost inches when the scale has shown little or no change.

Have you read Pounds and Inches?

Are you able to make a commitment to yourself to hang in there for a full round and wait till then make a decision? You owe it to you! I've read of so many that were close to giving up and they stuck it out and had a great round. As you already said, you'd had above average losses so far.

[catkin]

Originally Posted by Marocka

VLCD 2, 197.4, -3.6...load gain +1.4 GONE!! AGAIN!! HAHA

Happy Friday everyone!!

Woohoo!

[Nicole T]

Originally Posted by Peppermint

I am also going to eat more. Whether its more veggies, or mixing veggies (I'll avoid tomatoes since I've read bad things about them for this), or more protein ... but I can't continue like this. My body is apparently not happy and according to the below hasn't been for the last 6 days.

I am SO sorry this is so frustrating for you! This is exactly how I felt in my last P3 when everyone else was stabilizing EXCEPT me--even though I was eating 100% on P3 protocol! It took me about 2-3 weeks to finally find an answer by scouring the internet (it was actually my boyfriend who found it for me since he was SO tired of my whining and crying lol). My point is that sometimes it doesn't work the same for some of us as others and you just have to tweak it until you find what works.

I eat tomatoes and/or tomato sauce almost every day and have been losing great. I also mix all my veggies. Maybe at this point you should try the OWL (Oklahoma Weight Loss) program. It allows more food and foods that Dr S banned from P2. My boyfriend and I basically follow OWL and are both doing great. It's worth a try. You may need the 700 calories OWL gives you vs the 500.

[xxhellokittyxx]

I guess my potato chips didnt do as much damage as I feared. I'm down 2.4 today. I'm on vlcd12 and I'm down a total of 7.8.

Peppermint- I am a beginner, so my advice doesn't mean much....but since staying on protocol isn't working, what if you had a small cheat?

[Peppermint]

Found a couple threads on here where people were frustrated and not losing:

HCG didn't work for me - pleeeease advise!

Maybe this doesn't work for everyone?

No idea whether those folks ever succeeded, but I'm not going to be able to stick with this for 21+ days without seeing the payoff that everyone else is seeing.

Originally Posted by catkin

Peppermint.

Have you tried tweaking your dosage? You should NOT be having the hunger you describe.

As has been said before, we cannot use others' losses as a standard for our own, we set ourselves for disappointment when we do that. Yes it is hard no to--and believe me, we have all done it--but we simply cannot.

I can't recall if you said you measured. If so, re-measure and compare. Simeons Protocol is called Pounds & Inches. Many times people find they have lost inches when the scale has shown little or no change.

Have you read Pounds and Inches?

Are you able to make a commitment to yourself to hang in there for a full round and wait till then make a decision? You owe it to you! I've read of so many that were close to giving up and they stuck it out and had a great round. As you already said, you'd had above average losses so far.

Yes I've tweaked my dosage (tried 2/3/2 one day, 2/3/3 the next - I'm simply hungry.) And yes I've read Pounds and Inches. But I don't know that I can hang in there and continue if there doesn't appear to be a payoff for me. I owe it to me to lose weight yes, but I'm not doing that based on the typical (and I mean 95% of people on this protocol) person's experience on this.

I mean, people on here are cheating left and right and losing 1.5-3 lbs overnight! ...

Originally Posted by xxhellokittyxx

I guess my potato chips didnt do as much damage as I feared. I'm down 2.4 today. I'm on vlcd12 and I'm down a total of 7.8.

Peppermint- I am a beginner, so my advice doesn't mean much....but since staying on protocol isn't working, what if you had a small cheat?

Oh I do plan to cheat today.

Because I am >>>-<<< this close to being done with this. I've been obsessing over this for the past 2 hours this morning and getting no work done. I can't do this on a daily basis.

I'm 90% sure I will stop taking the pellets today and just move back to low carb this weekend.

[catr31]

No loss for me this morning. Not really worried about it, I know I will have days like this.

Peppermint- I know how hard it is to stick to something and not have it work, especially something so restrictive as this WOE. I think the reason most of us can stick to this is because of the rapid weight-loss that come with protocol. If you could lose the same amount while just low-carbing then I would do that. Good luck with whatever you choose.

[jabbok]

I stayed the same today 9 days to go I really want to lose at least another 5 pounds so the losses better pick up

[cared7]

I'm down .7 again today (vlcd12), so I've lost maybe 7 so far, including load weight of 3 pounds). That's definitely slower than I'm used to, but I'll finish the round and be thankful for even a loss of 12 if that's what happens. I still have 30 to go just to be out of "obese" land...sigh. I've had 2 good .7 days though, so maybe that will continue--and that was not even being excellent about protocol.

[dbunny]

Thank you all for your condolences.. I am just waiting for it to sink in with my sweetie. I don't think it has hit him yet.
Down .5 today, so back where I was a couple days ago. Hopefully being back on track will help me drop.
Big hugs to all of you that are struggling in P2... I don't know what to say to help out, but be strong, stay on plan, and you will lose. Maybe not as much as some, but maybe more than others...

[catjrow3]

I am up this morning, but its my own fault, as usual fell off my wagon yesterday!! UGH!! I am my own worst enemy lately!!

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by Marocka

VLCD 2, 197.4, -3.6...load gain +1.4 GONE!! AGAIN!! HAHA

Happy Friday everyone!!

Happy Friday indeed! And excellent loss, bravo to you!

Originally Posted by Nicole T

VLCD 11 and down another 1.5 lbs! THAT was totally unexpected today since I had 2 major losses in the past 3 days. I am now 3 oz away from Virgin Fat Territory!!! My last round I got to 165.4 and called it a day. Today I was 165.7 Maybe I will make it to 160 by the end of this round after all! And here I was worried I wouldn't lose today since I had a little more half and half yesterday than I usually do (1.5 T in the morning and 1.5 T later in the day at Starbucks).

So far, Friday the 13th has been good to me Going to See Christopher Cross in concert with my boyfriend tonight...can anyone say "Sailing"??? Only one of my favorite songs of ALL time!

I hope you make it into virgin territory post haste. Those are great numbers today!

Originally Posted by catkin

Stayed the same! With less than 10 to go, I am not surprised. I'm mentally preparing for a longer P2--hopefully my last!

Peppermint.

Have you tried tweaking your dosage? You should NOT be having the hunger you describe.

As has been said before, we cannot use others' losses as a standard for our own, we set ourselves for disappointment when we do that. Yes it is hard no to--and believe me, we have all done it--but we simply cannot.

I can't recall if you said you measured. If so, re-measure and compare. Simeons Protocol is called Pounds & Inches. Many times people find they have lost inches when the scale has shown little or no change.

I know that was definitely the case with my mother and me. Both of us lose inches visibly when the scale doesn't move. I know it is frustrating, but I don't care if I weigh 200 pounds if I feel great and fit in a size six, you know?

Originally Posted by xxhellokittyxx

I guess my potato chips didnt do as much damage as I feared. I'm down 2.4 today. I'm on vlcd12 and I'm down a total of 7.8.

Peppermint- I am a beginner, so my advice doesn't mean much....but since staying on protocol isn't working, what if you had a small cheat?

Eh, I don't think that's great advice. Cheating sometimes doesn't hurt, but it really doesn't help, especially when we're talking about the protocol changing metabolism and food tastes. Maybe a few more ounces of protein would be wise if she is so hungry, and I highly recommend switching to rX if she is doing the homeopathic, but cheating on junk food is generally a bad idea.

Originally Posted by jabbok

I stayed the same today 9 days to go I really want to lose at least another 5 pounds so the losses better pick up

It is so frustrating when the scale doesn't move, I hope you can get those last five pounds you want!

Originally Posted by cared7

I'm down .7 again today (vlcd12), so I've lost maybe 7 so far, including load weight of 3 pounds). That's definitely slower than I'm used to, but I'll finish the round and be thankful for even a loss of 12 if that's what happens. I still have 30 to go just to be out of "obese" land...sigh. I've had 2 good .7 days though, so maybe that will continue--and that was not even being excellent about protocol.

Great job! I hope your losses stay consistent at that amount, that would actually be great progress (since most women lose closer to half a pound a day on the protocol, especially the smaller they get).

Originally Posted by dbunny

Thank you all for your condolences.. I am just waiting for it to sink in with my sweetie. I don't think it has hit him yet.
Down .5 today, so back where I was a couple days ago. Hopefully being back on track will help me drop.
Big hugs to all of you that are struggling in P2... I don't know what to say to help out, but be strong, stay on plan, and you will lose. Maybe not as much as some, but maybe more than others...

Congratulations on the half pound down and returning to where you were. I'm hoping your husband grieves properly and doesn't try to keep it all in, that can be very destructive

I completely agree with staying on plan and being strong - the protocol is amazing but it isn't easy, by any means! Give it your best shot and if it really isn't working for you, there are other plans that might




Whew, I think that was all the responses... As for me, I can confirm my all officially busted today, thanks to the Apple day and time, as I was down 1 pound today to 185.8, firmly in virgin territory and bringing my total to 21.6 pounds lost by R1VLCD25. In the short term, a week stalled sucked! But in the big picture of things, my losses have still be incredible and I can't complain. No hunger to speak of, no real discomfort, just some cravings for fatty P3 food and reaching the 170's . I've stayed on plan as perfectly as I can and I'm so pleased with the results it has netted me!

[PenPen13]

Peppermint I am right there with you. I have struggled with the losses myself. I am 12 days into this just like you and have lost (according to the scale) 6 lbs. I even had two days were I gained 4 lbs overnight!! Talk about WTH!! I have bounced back and forth with 1 lb for the past few days. How do your clothes feel? I can feel a difference with my jeans and THAT is the only thing that has kept me going so far. I have been very strict as well and I too have thought about stopping and going over to P3. If you do feel any kind of difference, try staying away from the scale and get your motivation from your clothes. I did up my drops to 4 times a day and that has helped with the hunger.
I wish I had a magic answer for you but then sometimes it helps to know you are not alone with the struggle.
Good Luck!

[jabbok]

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

Happy Friday indeed! And excellent loss, bravo to you!


Whew, I think that was all the responses... As for me, I can confirm my all officially busted today, thanks to the Apple day and time, as I was down 1 pound today to 185.8, firmly in virgin territory and bringing my total to 21.6 pounds lost by R1VLCD25. In the short term, a week stalled sucked! But in the big picture of things, my losses have still be incredible and I can't complain. No hunger to speak of, no real discomfort, just some cravings for fatty P3 food and reaching the 170's . I've stayed on plan as perfectly as I can and I'm so pleased with the results it has netted me!

wtg sounds like you had a really good round.

[catr31]

Originally Posted by catjrow3

I am up this morning, but its my own fault, as usual fell off my wagon yesterday!! UGH!! I am my own worst enemy lately!!

Why do we do this to ourselves? I am gathering all my will power to get me through the weekend. I have no problems during the week but because we are always out and about on the weekends I have a hard time sticking to protocol. My first two rounds were easy to stick to but now it seems I am tired of dieting and I find myself obsessing about food while I'm on protocol. I have started and stopped so much that I have gained back all of my weight.

[jabbok]

Originally Posted by PenPen13

Peppermint I am right there with you. I have struggled with the losses myself. I am 12 days into this just like you and have lost (according to the scale) 6 lbs. I even had two days were I gained 4 lbs overnight!! Talk about WTH!! I have bounced back and forth with 1 lb for the past few days. How do your clothes feel? I can feel a difference with my jeans and THAT is the only thing that has kept me going so far. I have been very strict as well and I too have thought about stopping and going over to P3. If you do feel any kind of difference, try staying away from the scale and get your motivation from your clothes. I did up my drops to 4 times a day and that has helped with the hunger.
I wish I had a magic answer for you but then sometimes it helps to know you are not alone with the struggle.
Good Luck!

You are doing good that is an average of .5 pounds per day. I know we always want more but just hang in there it does work and you will get to goal.

In the last 5 days I have only lost 1.2 pounds it sucks but I tell myself if I cheat I will only undo what I already lost and it will take more time on P2 to get back where I was so I keep plugging away.

[C'Marie]

PEPPERMINT.......

Before you "cheat" how about adding some good protein to get calories up a bit? Maybe a fattier bit of meat.... The one thing I am pretty concerned for is that you stay on the hhcg for the minimum, if you can, even if you raise calories to not lose - and just stabilize there a bit.... then go back to your lowcarb eating, which is P3 anyway.

Don't go cheating with whatever out of frustration. Maybe you need more protein. How about a couple eggs, yolk included?

[C'Marie]

I'm down again, or the same as yesterday's down which I didn't claim yesterday cuz my scale is acting weird. I did change the battery on it. So far, after 10 completed VLCdays, I am down 11.8, which includes load weight.

I am going to have to make a concerted effort to drink ALL my water today. Already that is falling by the wayside. At least I'm still trying to eat 2 servings of veggies. I have the melba only occasionally, and usually only have one fruit, sometimes both.

[PenPen13]

Originally Posted by jabbok

You are doing good that is an average of .5 pounds per day. I know we always want more but just hang in there it does work and you will get to goal.

In the last 5 days I have only lost 1.2 pounds it sucks but I tell myself if I cheat I will only undo what I already lost and it will take more time on P2 to get back where I was so I keep plugging away.

thanks for the support and I am going to stick it out if it kills me! I just need to stay away from that stupid scale because it makes me so depressed!

[Majerus]

(((Bunny))) I'm sorry for your loss.

[Majerus]

I am happy to report that I am in the 160's, my pants are all loose and my boots zip up my calves with no resistance whatsoever.

[MemoryKeeper]

YAY YOU! WTG!

[catkin]

Originally Posted by jabbok

I stayed the same today 9 days to go I really want to lose at least another 5 pounds so the losses better pick up

You're in good company!

[Kiki373]

Originally Posted by catr31

Why do we do this to ourselves? I am gathering all my will power to get me through the weekend. I have no problems during the week but because we are always out and about on the weekends I have a hard time sticking to protocol. My first two rounds were easy to stick to but now it seems I am tired of dieting and I find myself obsessing about food while I'm on protocol. I have started and stopped so much that I have gained back all of my weight.

I am the same way....I have started and stopped so much too! Even when I would complete P2, I wouldn't do P3 properly. I think out of my million rounds, I have only performed 3 correctly. However later, I get into the carbs and sugar and end up gaining all my weight back. You'd think at some point I would learn that carbs and sugar are not my friends and only make me gain weight. But I for one, cannot resist.

I do like a lot of the P3 sweets, I guess I just get lazy and don't feel like making them. However, I would like to do this round correctly and see where it gets me. Fingers crossed!

I know I tend to relax on my eating habits and don't really think about what I am eating when off protocol until the scale shows a huge gain and then I obsess with dieting and going back on HCG to lose the weight I have gained. Then while I am on protocol, I am ok for the first couple of days but then start to think about all the foods I cannot eat without a gain and it drives me nuts. I had one of those days today; however, when I got into that mode, I ate my dinner. melba and fruit and I was satisfied. So today I was able to resist. Hopefully, I can do that the rest of my round

I am only down .2 today...TOM has entered the picture and I am sure I will be this way for several days.....BOO HOO!

Dbunny ~ So sorry for your loss.

Shelby ~ I am so glad you are doing P2 right now, I enjoy reading your posts. They give me encouragement and you are so full of knowledge, I learn so much from you. Thanks!

[MemoryKeeper]

Stayed the same again, but I'm okay with it. I know that two days at the same is not uncommon, and I also know I've stayed on program, so it's only a matter of time!

[Nicole T]

VLCD12 and stayed the same today (165.7)...which was totally expected since I had major drops this past week. Any drop after this is Virgin Fat Territory for me...last time I was anything under 165 was 16 years ago before getting pregnant with my first son!

Getting nervous about P3 after having such a horrid time last time stabilizing but I do have Leptin in my back pocket this time

[Nicole T]

Originally Posted by MemoryKeeper

Stayed the same again, but I'm okay with it. I know that two days at the same is not uncommon, and I also know I've stayed on program, so it's only a matter of time!

I stayed the same today too but feel the same as you...I really think it's unrealistic to expect losses every day--our body has to have time to catch up with the losses It helps to have done a 63 day round in the past and to know that all stalls pass if you just stay with the protocol!

[catkin]

Down .8! That's .8 from my LDW--finally!!!

[Sunny7]

down .04this morning this is day 19 for me, only 2 days left on protocol, but i am planning on extending, hopefully till the end of the month, will see how it goes, i am dreaming of p-3, but when i get on the scale and lose most days--- i want to keep it going---i am already thinking of my p3 grocery list