HCG Rouges and Alternatives- week of 1/9

[DisneyPrincess]

Here's to a new week

[DisneyPrincess]

Good morning. I've been up for some time, had a rough nights sleep, and even my son was up a few times for some reason. I guess we are both missing Dh.

I decided not to weigh this morning. Between lack of sleep and MAJOR muscle soreness I'm sure I wouldn't have liked the scale much. I'll weigh tomorrow.

Off to get my coffee before the kiddos arrive. Hope everyone has a great ON PLAN day

[errihu]

Up 0.2. While I know from last round that my usual loss pattern is to drop and then go up and stay for two or three days, followed by a drop, this is only 6 days in >.<. I would have preferred if it started the staircase weight loss sometime after the first week.

I'm going to watch what I'm eating a little more carefully. Maybe Tilapia just isn't as great a weight loss food as it's made out to be.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by errihu

Up 0.2. While I know from last round that my usual loss pattern is to drop and then go up and stay for two or three days, followed by a drop, this is only 6 days in >.<. I would have preferred if it started the staircase weight loss sometime after the first week.

Ouch, that bites! Hope the up/down turns into a steep cliff down for you!

After having a bizarre eating episode yesterday...I am up 4 pounds (131.6 to be precise).

I've jumped onto the dieting bandwagon. Not hcg, but eating my version of protocol (600 cals) Monday/Tuesday, Thursday/Friday, and P3 the rest. I'm going to dump this water weight and I hope to blast my way down to 120 before I crash my metabolism. It's been 5 weeks since I've done a low calorie day...hopefully enough of a break.

[dazygyrl]

good morning! feeling 100 times better than yesterday. i finally decided to try eating some chicken breast so i could take some motrin as i knew that would help with the body aches and headache. that went well and i was able to takes some. oh, 800mg of motrin how do i love thee!! within 30-40 min i could feel a huge difference...ahhhh.....

mini...what was Liz's screen name? i too hope she is doing well.

i was down 2.4 from friday's weight. woot! which puts me at just 0.6 above my last progress picture. so it *should* be easy enough to get a couple more down with JUDDD, i just need to be way more mindful of portions on UDs...it's super easy for me to do DD's.

hope you all have a great week!

[Nicole T]

VLCD 7 for me and still the exact same I was yesterday (169.6). I'm blaming it on having my hands in that darn scone batter with all the butter on Saturday LOL

Hope lots of others lose what I didn't today and have a great Monday!

[agentventi]

only down .02 today
I had an extra 2 servings of fruit though so I know that did me in! I was very very hungry all day yesterday and DH made an awesome smelling pasta dish that I wanted so bad! and I am not a huge pasta fan! Instead I ate a whole container of strawberries.

[bkm]

My weight is stabilizing (?) around 138# - thinking about another round ...

Question: I see several of you have done "interruption days" - how exactly does that work? How long does it affect your weight loss? How far do you stray? Do you take the HCG during the interruption period? Can I do an occasional meal (i.e., not a day or so) and have it work? Etc.?

My problem is the occasional dinners with friends - my husband really wants to do this and I've found it's difficult to eat protocol while at someone else's house - they make their "specialties" and get hurt feelings if you don't indulge. Most of our friends accept that I don't eat sugar (though sometimes one of them tries to make a sugarless dessert, which I then discover has ingredients such as honey ), but I can't simply not eat anything they've prepared...

[Gremom]

Morning all!

Sorry I was MIA over the weekend. Was very busy and didn't get a chance to hop on. my weight is holding steady within a lb and TOM will be here in the next few days and when he leaves, I will start another round.

Exercise has abeen going fantastically and I am planning on getting in another tough workout in today.

Jackie, sorry you and DS didn't get any sleep. I hope that the coffee helps and that you have a great day!

Dazy, glad to hear that you are feeling better and that you are down! NICE!

Hello to everyone else! I will try to keep up with you all!

[lunagirl704]

Good morning! Didn't weight today...Didn't feel any different, clothes fit the same so why bother I don't like to weight every day actually...I become too focused on the number, if that makes sense. I am on vlcd7 and will keep going...

BKM- I'd love to know about interruption days as well...Not that I want or need one but sometimes it's inevitable if you are invited somewhere.

agentventi- Good job resisting the pasta (I love pasta, those darn shirataki noodles are not the same lol!). .2 is not bad and the strawberries will flush you out.

Nicole T. -I'm on vlcd 7 as well, and no losses yet...fingers x'ed for this week!

Dazygirl- I'm happy you feel better!

Paulabob- it's probably water weight.

Errihu- tilapia is supposed to be so low in calories...I'm not a fan though. Maybe try flounder?

[Trishagrrl]

VLCD7 for me and up .6 today . Wasn't ready to see the scale go up already. Probably the extra carbs yesterday didn't help matters. Ready to make today a successful 1000 calorie day!

Hope we all see good losses this week

Happy Monday!

[baabng4ever]

Good morning Roguies! Happy Monday! :P

So, today was my first day of staying the same. Plus it is the official end of week 1 on VLCD which means 8# lost in the 1st week. I think that is pretty good. DH is doing this, too and he lost almost twice as much (15#). MEN!!! I know the losses slow in week 2; I would like to see a 5# drop on the week. *fingers crossed* Hope that is not overly ambitious!

Disney - Sorry you have been having such a rough go. I hope you can get some improved sleep soon!

errihu - I know any increase is a bummer! Hopefully, it will shoot back down tomorrow!!

Paula - Well, that is clearly an anomaly! No way you gained 4# overnight! Anyway, sounds like you got it covered...plus drink lots of water to help rebalance the water!

dazy - glad you are feeling so much better! congrats on the loss! woot woot!

Nicole - dang scone butter!!

agentventi - It may only be .2 but it is a move in the right direction. You may have a bigger loss tomorrow! It's good!!!!

bkm - I don't have an answer about interruption days, but I do know what you mean when you talk about going to others houses.

Gremom - *waves* Yay, a new round soon!

luna - Good morning! Daily weighing definitely has it's downers - like feeling number obsessed! Do what's right for you.

Hope everyone has a great day!

[goddesslynne]

Good morning ladies!! I'm still lurking and reading, and struggling!! I had a bit of an "over-feed" yesterday...I seem to do this when I'm left alone in the evening. Walnuts, check. Extra MF meals, check. Low-fat cream cheese, check. Not sure what THAT was all about...

Anyway, I would love to say a few words about eating out with others, and especially about eating at other people's homes. I feel very strongly about this, so please know that my intention is not to offend anyone or their friends. I just want all of us to get to where we want to be!!

If someone's feelings are hurt because you don't eat their food, that's their problem. Not yours. We're all adults here, and the idea that someone would be hurt because you didn't stray from your health program for them is absurd. We don't get hurt when alcoholics don't drink at our parties, do we? We don't get hurt when a child with peanut allergies doesn't eat a sandwich with our kid, right? My feeling is that as long as you don't take away someone else's food, they will quickly forget about what you're eating - or not eating.

Bonnie, I think the other ladies will answer your question about interruptions, but I just want you to know that you don't have to put other people's feelings above your desire to be healthy.

OK, back to lurking!!

[catjrow3]

Howdy ladies, I am back this morning too... VLCD1... I have to find my mojo... and hopefully I will this time... I tend to lose it within a week, but hopefully not this time.. I will stay strong, and join all you strong ladies... heres to behaving myself..

Cheryl Big hugs! We are here when you are ready!!

Zoe, Yeah on the "real 0s" You are rocking it!! very proud of you!!

Carrie, totally, you look amazing, I wish I could get there with you. Totally should internalize and see yourself and be happy!! Congrats!!!!

Paula, I am sure you will get to a new number this time around, JUDDD right??

Hope you all have a great Monday. I think I am going to start today with a fast if I can... we will see how the day progresses!!

[MaryMouse49]

Good morning, must be jan curse, up a pound yesterday and up 2 ounces today hoping its TOM hard to tell sometimes when you had a hysterectomy, I don't keep track of my moods LOL good luck this week. Mary

[CherylB]

Hey, peeps! I'm subbing to the thread and scanned through the new posts. Carrie, I hope you feel better. Kudos to the losers and those wearing their skinny jeans! I'm very proud of you. Hugs to the strugglers (which includes myself.) Cathy, be strong and get through this round with flying colors. Set the example for me!!

I have reached a completely unacceptable number on the scale today and have finally woken up from my carb and wine stupor. I can't keep doing this to myself. I'm going to stick to coffee with cream and salads for a few days and see if any rapid water loss occurs. That always makes me happy. I could use a little happiness right now.

Must do laundry and figure out what I'll be wearing for barn duty tomorrow. Must be comfortable as well as warm.

I hope everyone has a wonderful day and a stellar week! I'll be coming back around, little by little. Baby steps.

[mdolph]

Hi guys!!!

I know I don't write too much here but my heart is with this group. I've just been so busy with things and honestly don't know quite where I fit is with all the hhcg stuff!

Hi to all! Good to see so many "old" friends and nice reading about all the newbies progress!

Felt compelled to write something after reading the end of last week's thread. Wanted to add a few of my takes and struggles.

First off I too find that my going too low calorie in addition to being low fat I go a little obsessive with the food, exercise and weighing myself. This is something I'm learning more and more about myself.

It goes right along with my other thing I wanted to add:
I too don't know when/if I should stop. My goal which I thought would be impossible to achieve was going to be 150. I hit that on July 4th. I then went on vacation and gained quite a bit and went back on another round. My vanity goal was 143. I hit that on November 19th. I said once I got there I'd maintain it through the holidays then let myself get back up to 150ish. Well then I got down to 138 and loved that weight. I told people I was just going to keep on losing so that I had a bigger window of weight I could gain over the holidays. Well the holidays are over and here I am at a very good weight for myself, 143, and now I want to get back down to 138 again. When does it stop? Anyway I understand the struggles. I find maintenance to be very freightening. I like the comforts of dieting. I've done this for 8 years! Things with me have gotten bad though. Mini hit in on the head when she mentioned eating disorders. In the past I'd have a cheat weekend and I was ok with the gain. I didn't like it but I accepted it. Now I find the gain to be totally unacceptable. I'm going to leave it at that for now. Mini also hit it on the head that I use dieting as a was of controlling things I can't control in my regular life. I always thought that I would be so happy when I finally hit goal yet I find it more nerveracking than I ever was while I was dieting!

Anyway...... Dh gained 22 pounds since his lowest. This holiday was hard with it being the first year without his aunt and grandma (both who raised him). He wanted to go back on hhcg and asked me to join in. To be honest he knows none of my "issues" as I don't want to give him yet another thing to worry about and he isn't around much as he works 60-65 hours a week. I am doing a short round with extra calories and fat along side him. I love the way hhcg makes me feel. I don't NEED to lose but I will be seeing a ton of old classmates in a few weeks so getting back down to my lowest would be nice. Have a ever mentioned that I weigh less now than I did in 6th grade?

Today was day 1 of vlc. DH is texting me cursing how much this sucks and for the first time in weeks I'm so relaxed and content. I could stay of hhcg forever, lol! Today I added peanut butter and coconut oil for my fats. I need the fats! DH is stuck with grapefruit and a low carb yogurt for breakfast, some roasted vennison and radishes for lunch and a dinner of a large salad with marinaded chicken breast. I'm eating that along with my added fat. Well no radishes as I hate radishes! We don't eat much fruit on hhcg and no melba.

I'm hoping to have time to post more this week!

Mini- congrats on the jeans fitting. Right now jeans are my enemy. I've yet to find a single pair that fits. I've had to have tried on at least 50 pairs this past month. I'm sticking to yoga pants at home and frumpy work pants while I'm at work.

[Violet_Dream]

~~~~Cheryl~~~~I have been there so many times. I finally "woke up" last June when I started hcg @ 225.6 and said I'm done. You can do it and we're all in this together.

R3VLCD44 and I'm down .4! Yesterday, I had about three cups of coffee with my powdered cream (the only kind I use now that never shows a again), but regardless - it's back to strict protocol today. The most rogue I get is cream in my coffee and Splenda in my herbal tea - so when I get back to protocol, I don't have far to get back to it. Almost out of the 150's...only 4.2 to go.

Congratulations to everyone and make it a great day!

[agentventi]

mdolph-I know what you mean about vanity weights and ed issues. I am in the same boat and actually no one knows about my ed issues. DH tends to over look the things that don't fit into his "perfect family" life image he wants to hold up. I am 5 feet and 110ish when I met him. Got all the way up to 140 eating desserts and just eating a lot in general! He is very much into working out so I am not sure why he never said anything to me. I went on the south beach diet in 05 and lost 30lbs rather quickly. Then got pregnant and gained 80, YES, 80lbs. Lost 65 rather quickly then struggled for a few years to lose the rest. Then I got my wisdom teeth out in 07 and that was the start of the ED. I ended up with dry socket and couldn't eat anything. I kept up with the 700 calories a day until I found HCG last summer. I only got down to 104 eating that way, if I cheated or had one of my frequent binges I would go up to 107. I was sick of always feeling sick and tired and started to have health issues, period has been MIA for 15 months now. I wanted to be normal again, and eat normal. I started HCG not so much for weight loss but I like the reset of the metabolism. I needed that after the damage I did.
I am okay with my current weight of 99lbs (remember I am 5 feet tall) but I have a lot of fat on my lower body...lots. I wouldn't mind staying this weight IF I could reshape my legs. BUT then for some reason 92lbs has always been the vanity magic number weight for me. I am still working on food issues. But I was so happy in P3 to be able to eat 1400 calories and FAT and not gain an ounce! LOVE, love P3. But then the holidays came and I binged a few times. Still working through that.
WOW, sorry I wrote a novel. It is hard though when I do not have anyone to talk to because I am too ashamed to not keep this secret from my friends and family.
Thanks ladies.

[pugswin]

Hi All,

Stopping in to say hello, glad to see some progress, sorry to see those that are struggling.

I'm not doing well on P3. Its so hard for me to eat.. i've trained myself to not want food. Then when I do eat its not P3 foods! sugar? carbs? chocolate? Champagne? The 'good' news.. today I it a new low: 179lbs! woot. but wait, that's bad news right? cause I'm on P3?

anyway, my plan now was to start a new round next weekend, but I'm afraid TOM will come next week and I'm now thing I'll wait until the weekend after TOM comes, whenever that is. I'm looking for 21 or maybe 28 day round and to lose 15lbs... and do a proper P3 and P4... and be happy! DAMN IT. My origianl goal when starting HCG was 180.. and now I'm here, I think 160 would be even better.

so I'll see you all soon, happy 2012. Life hasn't been too good to me lately, very busy with work and home has been soo stressful.

My blood pressure is back up (140/102) and I'm missing HCG. Can I just stay on it all the time? lol.

[lunagirl704]

agentventi and mdolph- thanks for sharing. I feel the same and I think that's why we are on this journey. I can't not diet...I've been at it forever. After a while it becomes a way of life. Between Thanksgiving and Christmas, I allowed myself to eat 'normally,' healthfully with lowish carbs but I ate beans, ezekiel bread, the occasional cookie, etc.. I maintained my weight but all the while I was thinking about starting the hhcg. It's always been about a magical number for me (which is 95 at 5'0)...I am doing this not only to get to that number but to reset my damaged metabolism. I know how to eat right, but the ammount of food that most would lose on i gain on.

[CherylB]

Thank you all for your ever-present support. That's what I love most about LCF. No matter how far we are sinking under the waves, there's a few people throwing you a bouy and shouting, "Grab it! We'll save you! Swim, damn it! Swim!"

Melanie, way to purge! I loved reading your post. I hope your doing this round with your hubby is more like a formality than an actual weight loss round. Sounds like you are eating plenty of fat so maybe you can just "go through the motions" of dieting with him. Sometimes I wish I could be at the other side of the dieting spectrum, taking it too far rather than not far enough. Maybe I should be careful what I wish for.

PS: Melanie, have you tried jeans that have a little stretch in them? They hug you and feel so wonderful to wear. It's hard to take them off.

[star a.d.]

quickly marking my space and running off!

I'm down to my LDW from last round...yesssss. now to go DOWN FROM HERE!!! I really, really would like to lose another 20 before giving this round up.

[tay65]

Good day ya'all!!! Well day 21 & I am right where I started R2!!!! This is just plain nuts!!!!! Someone kick my a$$ for me. :/ 21 days, wasted. Half a bottle of drops, wasted. All this food, wasted. I should be down atleast 10 lbs, and I got nowhere with everything thats gone on. I should've waited. But I thought it would give me something to focus on instead of be depressed about my son leaving. Didn't work either.
Now I'll just restart and get focused. Hubby went back to work after being off 7 weeks so this should be easy now.
I have my grandbaby on my lap asleep so can't do personals, but know I'm thinking about all of you. You all are doing good and you keep me going. Have a good day!

[CherylB]

AV, Pugswin and Luna, looks like we had a "purge surge" as I was typing my post to Melanie! It's the kind of purge that brings us to repentance and cleanses the soul, not the kind that is unhealthy and empties the belly. I plan on doing more purging here soon.

Tammy, HUGS!

[mdolph]

Originally Posted by agentventi

mdolph-I know what you mean about vanity weights and ed issues. I am in the same boat and actually no one knows about my ed issues. DH tends to over look the things that don't fit into his "perfect family" life image he wants to hold up. I am 5 feet and 110ish when I met him. Got all the way up to 140 eating desserts and just eating a lot in general! He is very much into working out so I am not sure why he never said anything to me. I went on the south beach diet in 05 and lost 30lbs rather quickly. Then got pregnant and gained 80, YES, 80lbs. Lost 65 rather quickly then struggled for a few years to lose the rest. Then I got my wisdom teeth out in 07 and that was the start of the ED. I ended up with dry socket and couldn't eat anything. I kept up with the 700 calories a day until I found HCG last summer. I only got down to 104 eating that way, if I cheated or had one of my frequent binges I would go up to 107. I was sick of always feeling sick and tired and started to have health issues, period has been MIA for 15 months now. I wanted to be normal again, and eat normal. I started HCG not so much for weight loss but I like the reset of the metabolism. I needed that after the damage I did.
I am okay with my current weight of 99lbs (remember I am 5 feet tall) but I have a lot of fat on my lower body...lots. I wouldn't mind staying this weight IF I could reshape my legs. BUT then for some reason 92lbs has always been the vanity magic number weight for me. I am still working on food issues. But I was so happy in P3 to be able to eat 1400 calories and FAT and not gain an ounce! LOVE, love P3. But then the holidays came and I binged a few times. Still working through that.
WOW, sorry I wrote a novel. It is hard though when I do not have anyone to talk to because I am too ashamed to not keep this secret from my friends and family.
Thanks ladies.

You could be my emotional twin. I too gained about 80 with my first pregnancy then never lost it all when I got pregnant with #2. I lost over 100 then had my kids then lost over 100 again.

Anyway, like you said DH has no clue what's going with me. I actually have a male friend, yes, its a friend, who figured it all out, called me out on it and has now since stopped talking to me b/c I won't stop what he considers to be dieting nonsense. It just made me even more sad and unhappy. I wonder if he realized he added to my madness. I tend to binge but not like a huge eat a whole cake binge but binge nontheless. I also purge. This is new. This is totally something that I couldn't believe people did but I've started. Purging really is defined by many means and I've been taking water pills, laxatives and drinking excessive amount of fluids, over exercising and/or starving myself for years, but the actual purging thing is new. DH doesn't know. Like I said it's now you guys and my male friend. And the purging isn't something I do regularly. It seems to happen with holidays or when I have a bad bad day with the kids. I don't sit there and think "I really want pizza, I'll just eat it then purge." Ok, before I go further I will acknowledge this is bad, bad stuff, I need help and I'm working in that direction. Please don't lecture!

Cheryl- I have tried all sorts of jeans. Every brand imaginable. I'm finding that they'll fit for an hour or so then they get all stretched out and start heading south on me. LOL! I think part of the issue is to get them to fit over the 'ol fat apron they're too lose on the waist. Once they stretch some they just move! I have a job where it's ok to dress casually and I love my jeans but I've yet to find a pair that'll make it through the day without getting too stretched out. The search continues!

[mdolph]

Oh I wanted to add, I too started hhcg to first off shed the last "few" pounds but the restetting of the metabolism really excited me. I've seen some difference but I think I'm just so carb sensitive I'm never going to quite get there. I keep coming back to hhcg as I love the way it makes me feel and it doesn't wonders for my TOM, mood swings and sleep.

[agentventi]

Melanie we could be emotional twins! I have purged during my binges, not all of them but the ones I can feel I can get away with doing it. I also have tried the laxatives, diet pills, calorie restriction, water pills, over exercising..... Ahh, it sounds SO silly even typing it.
That is terrible about your friend. Some people think tough love is the way to go but it is often counterproductive. I am so glad I found this board. It makes me feel less alone in my struggles so at least we have this.
I just started adding coconut oil in (did it my last round too and did just fine with it. How is the peanut butter treating you?

[CherylB]

[Nicole T]

Originally Posted by mdolph

Oh I wanted to add, I too started hhcg to first off shed the last "few" pounds but the restetting of the metabolism really excited me. I've seen some difference but I think I'm just so carb sensitive I'm never going to quite get there. I keep coming back to hhcg as I love the way it makes me feel and it doesn't wonders for my TOM, mood swings and sleep.

I, too, am VERY carb sensitive and found after my first round of HCG that I could NOT stabilize if I was eating them! I finally just started following Paleo/Primal eating and really enjoy it. I now know that this is just how I will have to eat for the rest of my life but honestly, with almond flour and coconut flour, I have made breads, cupcakes and cookies that help me to not even miss flour products!

Also, about the jeans, you HAVE to try Jag jeans! I got my one pair at Nordstroms (and you can order them online), but I can wear them 3 days in a row (not that I ever have of course and they never stretch out! They have the perfect amount of stretch in them so they're not skin tight when you first put them on like some other "stretchy" jeans but enough that they never stretch out and get baggy like my Old Navy jeans do. The "Lucy" is their basic jean with just a little boot-cutness to them