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Old 12-18-2011, 09:09 PM   #1
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:14 PM   #2
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Nola and all --

I suspect many if not most of us have some amount of body dysmorphia -- we don't entirely see ourselves the way others see us.

Nola, I think you are bang on in your statement that we project our dis-satisfactions with ourselves onto our bodies -- I know I certainly do! I project the problems in other areas of my life onto my body, too -- it gives me a sense of having control, when in reality I don't have a lot of control over many of the events in my life.

At least I understand this, and can keep it under wraps -- when I was younger, that delusion took over, and that is how I ended up with an eating disorder.

Disney -- wow! I cannot believe you can drink a full bottle of wine without being much affected by it. I'd be passed out completely! I seriously have a very small tolerance for alcohol these days, and wine is particularly evil for me.
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:34 PM   #3
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Oh dear, I completely overate today!! So. much. brisket. My step-daughter's mom had a holiday party. I did a pretty good job avoiding carbs, but, the brisket!!
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If it was mainly protein, you might end up not paying for it, Lynne -- I hope you get off without a hitch!

You're doing great, and even if this ends up being a bump in the road, just move forward... the holidays are an awfully difficult time for most people to be dieting! (I've been able to avoid all festivities so far -- which is my preference -- so it has been pretty easy for me.)
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Count me in! I don't know precisely I'll be doing this weeks plan but it will be a losing plan. I have family starting to stream in over the coming weekend and stay for the week after Christmas. I am no longer in that "Get out of my way! I'm coming through and you have nothing in there that can tempt me!" frame of mind. Now I just want to lose a few more lbs and kills those feisty demons that love to lead me astray, all the way to ruin, if I'd let them.

So, this week may resemble more like Atkins, but I'll see how it goes. Once January finally hits and this crazy holiday season has been put away for another year, then I can get rolling. I am going to take serious head and heart searches throughout, so that if a red flag feeling should pop up, I can learn what makes them Pop and how to squelch them down or get rid of it altogether. These puppies need to die! There will be no place left from them in my life.

Time for some zzz's. After 1 am and took my bedtime pills a while ago. I will be back when the sun returns us all back into daytime. I'm ready to put this past week of recklessness behind me and to step it up a bit in my physical energy expenditures. I can't keep waiting for the horse people to come for me and tell me they're ready, I have to prepare myself and get myself ready and "seasoned."

I have the treadmill, a hip/thigh machine and a simple pneumatic tubed stair-stepper. I'm going to haul all three of those pieces of equipment downstairs so I can be doing one while Cisco does the treadmill. When it's my time for the treadmill, she just gets the boot and can go play and shake her stuffed babies. But then I will put her back on again for my next circuit of the other machines.
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Old 12-18-2011, 10:30 PM   #6
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Glad you are getting back on track, Cheryl -- I really think you will be glad in the long run that you did.

Whatever plan you choose, I am sure you will do well on it -- your body is amazing in that it seems to respond to any plan you choose to do

I am heading into my fast days without the slightest bit of hunger so far, so that bodes well. I hope I feel this enthusiastic by tomorrow night, lol!

Welcome to the new week, ladies -- let's break new ground, on the scale as well as emotionally, spiritually, etc.!
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Nola and all --

I suspect many if not most of us have some amount of body dysmorphia -- we don't entirely see ourselves the way others see us.


Disney -- wow! I cannot believe you can drink a full bottle of wine without being much affected by it. I'd be passed out completely! I seriously have a very small tolerance for alcohol these days, and wine is particularly evil for me.
Yup, I think you are right Mini..

And I cant drink a bottle of wine either! one glass is about it..
so I guess we will have to leave that trick to Disney!
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I was in such a foul mood today, but I went to a concert and feel much happier now! tattoo #10 hasn't started the insane itch yet, but it's in the mail, I can feel it. and my candy cane manicure is still intact. appreciating the little things FTW!

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Oh dear, I completely overate today!! So. much. brisket. My step-daughter's mom had a holiday party. I did a pretty good job avoiding carbs, but, the brisket!!
the amount of brisket I can put away is downright shocking. hahahaha! mmm, I could certainly go for some brisket...
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Good morning. Well after I got off here last night I ate a bunch of crackers me and carbs just don't do well. It was the wine for sure. Well I'm paying for it today. I'm SO bloated! My rings are tight and I can feel the salt. It's the perfect day to fast. I'm going to drink tons of water and hope the bloating is gone by tomorrow. I weighed too and am up over 3 pounds I know it's water but seeing that number made me mad!

Ok, have to go get ready to open.

I'm ready for this mini

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Good Monday morning to all!

So a week after surgery and I am feeling a whole lot better. My jaw is still quite tight and I can't open my mouth all the way, but it's getting there.

I am planning in staying on a clean LC diet until the new year and then I think I will do another round of hcg. I didn't weigh this morning, but I am sure I am the same. This was a set point that I had a REALLY had time breaking the last time I dieted. I stayed between 140-145 for 2 months and then gave up. i maintained that weight for a good 4-5 months. Anyway, I REALLY want to break through this set point and get in the 130s. Was hoping for Christmas, but I think this surgery has messed me all up. The meds are making me

Hope everyone has a great day! Good luck in the fast Jackie and Mini!

Oh and Jackie, put the crackers behind you and move forward. I had a run in with tortilla chips on Sat night. I really wanted something crunchy and I wanted to "challange" my jaws. We all make mistakes and then move on. You will do great on the fast!
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I'm up 3 pounds too...and I had crackers too. Did okay at the church party...then came home and had some crackers. What is it with that bland crunchy goodness?

Oh well, at least I had two days in a row in my range!
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I used to have just a bit of body dysmorphia the other way. When I was obese, I never saw myself in the mirror that way. I always saw myself as how I was through most of my 20s (chunky but not obese).

Photographs were always shocking, as I didn't always recognize myself and then would just be so surprised at how fat I was.

I think there's quite a few of us that way...that spend so many years obese but in denial.
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I used to have just a bit of body dysmorphia the other way. When I was obese, I never saw myself in the mirror that way. I always saw myself as how I was through most of my 20s (chunky but not obese).

Photographs were always shocking, as I didn't always recognize myself and then would just be so surprised at how fat I was.

I think there's quite a few of us that way...that spend so many years obese but in denial.
Me, too! I was somewhat sexy for most of my 20's + 30's that i thought of myself along those until I saw a picture or video of the "me" I had become. Mind-blowing stuff that nightmares are made of.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:37 AM   #15
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:01 AM   #16
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So annoyed!! 2.5 lbs. from the brisket incident!! Obviously water, but still!! I'm not changing my stats until tomorrow, when I see how it all shakes out.

Mini and DP, wishing you a peaceful fast!! Wish I could do that, maybe someday.

Off to the shower, I'll be back later!!
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Well, I am going to have to pick up my mother today @ 1330 to go to an urgent care visit for recent exacerbated back pain. They prescribed her a muscle relaxer which she took all weekend long with no relief and all it did was zone her out. She refused to call the on-call physician. Then I find out from my sister today that she didn't even get dressed yesterday due to the pain. She NEVER spends the day in her PJ's. Then my sister told me she lost control of her bladder on the way to the bathroom this morning and then was sipping a cup of tea when she was talking to my sister, still not having called her Dr. What a stubborn woman!

So, I need to go help her get dressed and drive her to her Dr's office for whatever tests they plan to do. She has a history of back pain but she's one of the lucky ones who had great success with a lumbar laminectomy. It would ache when she spent hours making her famous potato salad, but usually didn't bother her. Who knows what the problem is now.

So, prayers appreciated for my dear 80 year old mom! The years are really catching up to her and she's beginning to show the miles.
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I used to have just a bit of body dysmorphia the other way. When I was obese, I never saw myself in the mirror that way. I always saw myself as how I was through most of my 20s (chunky but not obese).

Photographs were always shocking, as I didn't always recognize myself and then would just be so surprised at how fat I was.

I think there's quite a few of us that way...that spend so many years obese but in denial.
Yeah, wow, funny that!
somehow I hadnt thought of it working in reverse that way..

It could be advantageous, in that you dont feel so bad about yourself,
but not so good in the sense that you dont realise where you are at!
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cheryl, lots of good vibes heading your mom's way! :hug:

I can't believe I'm in my window after the cookie incident that had turned into incidentS yesterday. plus, sore muscles and water retention. I'm in shock! good shock, that is. now I'm gonna eat some bacon.
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Cheryl, praying for your mama! And praying for you as you and your sis take care of her.

Star, so glad you are still in your window! I love those days when you just know the scale is going to be up and it gives you a suprise! I ate some bacon this morning too. Can't wait til my teeth are totally healed so that I can enjoy it more.

Oh I know I totally have BDD. It is so sad. My older brother teased me so bad about my looks and my weight when I was younger that it has stuck with me all this time. People tell me all the time that I look great and don't need to lose anymore weight. And I wear size 6, sometimes 4, but I just don't see it. I mean, I know it, but can't get past what I was told for so many years. Sometimes I really need to get out of my own head. I have a feeling that when I get to my goal weight, I still won't be pleased. Really makes me

I know when I start working out again that it will help. But I think I have a few weeks til I can get back into it. My mouth is seriously hurting today. I think I really did too much this weekend!
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Well, I'm at 138# today - not good but not too bad - my LDW is 136#.

I'm eating strictly P3 protocol, but allowing dairy products in (i.e., <1/2 cup low-carb milk and 1 ounce half & half) - really hard to get calories up when there's no nuts, bacon, ... I've never enjoyed a lot of meat! I've survived low-carbing by eating lots of nuts, well-buttered vegetables, etc.

I do like the inches off - no clothes off-limits anymore, everything I've had in the back of my closet fits! Although a lot of clothing is now much too big! Funny how much of a difference 10 pounds makes! I'm not ready to goodwill the 10s yet, but I'm hoping that's in my near future!
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Good Morning! R3VLCD22 and I'm down 1.6! WOW! That is a huge loss especially this far into the game and I'm only 18 away from my goal. I ordered some size 8 pants yesterday because before I know it, my 10's will be too big. My husband suggested I give my 12's to our 12 year-old son and they fit him. They're womens' jeans, but who cares? I'm expecting a 3-5 pound gain from my Christmas re-feed, but I bet it won't be that much. I can enjoy myself and not eat like a pig.

I heard from one of those positions I applied for and have a phone interview with the recruiter tomorrow. I applied for five, was declined for one and haven't heard from the other three. It's all in God's hands now and if it's meant be, it will happen. I'm ready to get out of leadership and only be responsible for myself again.

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Morning, everyone! WhoooHoooo Violet on the excellent drop! Good luck with the phone interview!!

Oh, and you may wish you'd ordered 6s rather than 8s -- 18 lbs may well be enough for two sizes down --- I am so very happy for you!!!
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Checking in on the new thread... I will be so glad when Christmas is over and I am going to hibernate at home... the feeding frenzy left Cheryl and came this way... I AM SOOO BLOATED! Maybe I should do the fasting too (well too late today though )
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Checking in on the new thread... I will be so glad when Christmas is over and I am going to hibernate at home... the feeding frenzy left Cheryl and came this way... I AM SOOO BLOATED! Maybe I should do the fasting too (well too late today though )
I'm already trying to psych myself up to not eat my face off on christmas. just the stuff I wouldn't normally eat, and not too much of it...hope if works, heh! planning another round to start in the first week of january, and I'm actually really excited!
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Checking in. Fast is going well and has been easy so far (knock on wood). Making some green tea now as I'm very cold. I'm going ti take that as a good sign!
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The scale is creeping up over here, for no reason that I can explain -- it isn't my diet, because I have been totally on plan -- so it has to be some other factor -- hormones, solar flares, stress, who on earth knows?

I had a brief thought about the studies that are mentioned in the Gary Taubes book I am reading -- that thinking about eating carbs (or smelling them, seeing them, etc.) can cause insulin surges.... and then I imagined my self saying to my roommate and partner :

"I'm sorry guys, but you are going to have to keep those cookies and things out of my sight and range of smell. Being in their presence is causing a weight gain for me. No, I'm not speaking metaphorically, I mean literally and I have the studies to prove it. "

LOLOL -- They'd think I had gone utterly off the obsessive deep end!!!!

Since I don't plan to live my life in a plastic carb-free bubble, my body better darn get used to being around carbs without gaining from that!

I'm not stressing it -- weight fluctuates, and not always the direction we want it to go. As long as it doesn't keep going up, I am going to assume it is nothing more than normal fluctuations of water, etc.

I'm stoked for my fast -- morning hunger was minimal, and the black coffee was enough to take care of it, so I am encouraged. Morning is always my hungriest time.
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Whoohoo Star for the new round you are planning! Your body has rocked maintenance, and I bet you rock the next round too!!!
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Cathy -- glad you checked in with us. I am sending a huge hug your way, and I am so sorry that you are struggling so much right now! I know that bloating has to be horribly uncomfortable

You could certainly jump in on the fasting if you like -- just start now, and don't worry about what you have already eaten today. The more the merrier!!!
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