Rogues and Alternatives, week of 12/5

[minimonkey]

Dude! Cheryl! Your losses are completely amazing this round!!!!!!!!!!! Major congratulations on that!!!!

Gremom -- I hope TOM gets there soon for you -- I totally agree that dealing with that and a wisdom tooth extraction at the same time would be horrid. Glad to hear the weight is stable for you at the moment.

[minimonkey]

I'm going to try for a very low-cal day today, with little bits of food spread throughout the day -- it's an experiment to see if that helps with the hunger.

I actually wasn't terribly hungry on waking, which bodes well, since that is usually my hungriest time by far.

This TOM is hitting with a vengeance -- the cramps are awful! I am not too prone to bad cramping in general, but there are exceptions ... at least it is really getting started now, so hopefully that will help.

Wishing you all a wonderful day -- I'm sure I'll be checking in later.

[DisneyPrincess]

Originally Posted by tay65

Hey DP! Good morning to you too!
Must be something going around. You're sick too, and you have SIX kids to watch! I emphasize with you.
Are you going to the city? I always say I; love to go to NYC for a few days. I love the city and so does my daughter. But dh and ds does not.
How old is ds #2? Have you heard of the Elf On the Shelf? Its an Elf that moves around the house when your kids are "good" and when they've been "bad", it stays in the same place and he/she sends a msg to Santa to tell him. So when your kids get up in the morning they hunt for the elf! Its really cute! My dd was telling me about it yesterday.
Good luck on P3 also! I'll be P3ing it for a while now. I'm out of drops and with the stress of my son leaving, I need to go off of them for now. Maybe in January I'll return to hHCG.

DS2 is 2 years old, not my second child. I only have one right now.

We have an elf on the shelf! Introduced him this year and my son named him Buzz. I love the thing

Originally Posted by CherylB

Quick fly-by. No time to read and I should be in the shower. My first week on P2 is officially in the bag and just LOOK at that ticker! I'm flabergasted. I am eating organic chicken this time and maybe that is helping. If so, I'm sold on organic meat for life.

Catch ya later! Busy day ahead.

Woah!!! That's awesome!!

Well I basically blew it today. I had some pretzles, which lead to m&ms which led to a graham cracker with peanut butter. ALL carbs. Tom must be looming because I never cave like that. Ugh. It's going to take days to get this weight off today. I'm done eating for the day and will do a low day tomorrow, probably one protein rich meal. Darn it, I really wanted that sub 110 this weekend! I'm still shooting for it though

[minimonkey]

Oh dear, Disney -- there must be something in the air right now! Seems a lot of us are caving one way or another Big hugs! I think we just do the best we can through the holidays/periods of stress, and be happy with whatever success (or just damage control) we can manage....

Long term caloric deficit does lead to overeating/bingeing for a lot of people-- that is a fact -- and I am pretty sure it is as much biological as it is psychological. The body will over-ride one's willpower in order to get its needs met. For people who crave carbs, that seems to be particularly vicious.

You and I are both fighting set points -- and with being small, it doesn't give us a lot of wiggle room to work with -- 110 lb bodies are fairly unforgiving, and tend to hang on to every little morsel of weight that they can. Who knows... maybe the little carb up won't hurt you -- this process can be a bit mysterious that way. One high-protein correction day may be all it takes to get things back in order.

I'm glad that I don't fight the terrible carb cravings that plague so many of you -- My body seems happier eating low-carb, and it doesn't go out of its way to make me miserable with carb cravings. I do miss them once in a great while, but overall I will be quite happy with the low-carb substitutes when I move to p3.

I'm on target for about an 800 calorie day, unless hunger overtakes me later in the evening. So far, today hasn't been bad with regards to food. I've reduced my hhcg dose in hope that it helps -- I think it might be, a little bit, though it could just be day to day variations at work. I will see if this seems to be a trend.

I'm fighting yet another migraine, though -- and that is making me miserable.

[minimonkey]

I am planning to weigh this weekend -- maybe Friday, maybe later depending on TOM -- and then give one last go at a really strict week of p2 -- if I start losing consistently, then I will keep going to goal -- if I am stalling, then I am tranistioning to p3 for a couple of weeks and will just resign myself to doing another p2 in the new year.

If I do another round of p2, I'm ordering more drops -- I like the pellets for convenience, but they just don't kill the hunger as well for me as the drops do.

[DisneyPrincess]

Thanks mini. I know all about dieting/binging. Being anorexic and then bulimic I lived it for many many years. And yes, my body is fighting for sure! I'm not going to cave any more though. I figure I'm around 1000 calories now so it's not that bad really. It'd show water on the scale because it's all carbs, but still below maintanance. I'm hoping one or 2 strict protein days will still show a nice drop this weekend.

I have 15 more diet days, that's it! I'd love to be under 107 by then because at least at that weight I fit into my clothes!

[minimonkey]

Disney -- sorry if my comment came off like I was trying to "educate" you about something... I didn't mean it that way! I know you have lived that nightmare, and that you know the cycles all too well.

I think I made that statement more as a reminder to myself than anything... so, sorry if it came off wrong. Sometimes I need reminding that the uncontrollable urge to eat isn't just mental, but physical as well.

I'm grateful for having you as a support on this thread, Disney -- we share a lot of the same struggles, and you are always a fantastic voice of sanity for me when I need it. Thank you for that!!

1000 calories isn't a bad place to land for the day, really -- and like you said, any weight gain will be water, and temporary.

Here's to success for both of us while we fight with stubborn set points... and extra kudos for being able to weather such a tough struggle!

[DisneyPrincess]

Originally Posted by minimonkey

Disney -- sorry if my comment came off like I was trying to "educate" you about something... I didn't mean it that way! I know you have lived that nightmare, and that you know the cycles all too well.

I think I made that statement more as a reminder to myself than anything... so, sorry if it came off wrong. Sometimes I need reminding that the uncontrollable urge to eat isn't just mental, but physical as well.

I'm grateful for having you as a support on this thread, Disney -- we share a lot of the same struggles, and you are always a fantastic voice of sanity for me when I need it. Thank you for that!!

1000 calories isn't a bad place to land for the day, really -- and like you said, any weight gain will be water, and temporary.

Here's to success for both of us while we fight with stubborn set points... and extra kudos for being able to weather such a tough struggle!

No no no!! I took it just as you meant it! I was just saying I totally know exactly what you mean/meant since I too have been in that place.

I too am very grateful for you mini not only is I great having someone with basically the same goals, it is nice having someone who, like you said, shares with the same struggles

No, calories aren't bad now, but this is where I have to watch it. Not only am I having major cravings from the junk, but I'm such an all or nothing person that I have the "I already blew it, why not have more" mind set. I'm going to work hard on pushing that out right now

We can do this mini. I have a feeling we are both going to be under 110 within a week!

[minimonkey]

Yes, we can do this, Disney!

I totally hear you about the "I already blew it" mindset -- that one kills me, too. I'd love to get rid of that "all or nothing" mentality -- not just about food, but about a lot of things.

I've gotten a lot better about balance in general, but I still struggle with it when it comes to diet -- I think a lot of us do.

I was wondering last night about some of the old-timers who have left the hcg board, and how they are doing. Liz came to mind... and Mousie .... and Awlass ....

I hope they are doing well.

Maybe we will see a resurgence of them with the New Years Dieting crowd...?

[pugswin]

sooo the scale moved down today, yay! Not that much but better than nothing.

I'm so hungry, I think its time for me to start thinking P3.. I'd love to get down below 180, but maybe I'm just pushing it and wasting time at this point.

It was going so well before Thanksgiving too. Is this a stall? a set point? a plateau? Time for 3 weeks P3 and then go back to get down to goal?

[Alaskafisher]

Good morning...I did my last two days vlcd's with no drops so today I eat again. Hmmm what to eat????? Dh and I went to the grocery store yesterday to stock up on healthy eats...I can't believe how expensive it is to eat healthy! He's "dieting" too, in his way so we can both be ready for our cruise. My poor granddaughter, she came over after school yesterday, and after dinner she ALWAYS gets dessert at Nanas, well there was absolutely nothing sweet for her to have, she's not used to that!!! My candy drawer is always well stocked! Guess I'll give in and get something for her.

Cheryl... Great losses the last couple weeks, your going to make goal before you know it.

Mini..hang in there, I hate being sick, and add TOM to that and it's a double whammy!!

Everyone else good luck in your journey and have a wonderful day!

Oh, and I'm down to 149 even this morning so my goal for P3 is stay under 150!

[DisneyPrincess]

Yup Tom is looming. I have back cramps so it's a sure sign. No wonders today was so hard. Calories are way high :blush:

Im honestly considering a water fast tomorrow. I've been reading on it and see some real benefits. Has anyone done them?

[HexaTheAmazon]

Ladies, the FDA is now sending out warning letters to vendors who are selling HCG. They are saying that there is no scientific proof that it works and makes people eat 500 calories. FDA is now seeking to regulate or stop it from being sold. I am going to investigate this more however, they are only doing this because it is more financially feasible for people to be overweight and ill for the pharm. industry than for them to lose weight and live healthy lives. Of course it works, and we are all living proof of that. The problem is HCG is getting too popular and people can independently get well. This does not sit well with the pharm. industry.

You might want to load up while ypu can.

[HexaTheAmazon]

FDA warns against HCG hormone diet pill fadBy My Health News Daily
Weight-loss products containing the hormone HCG are illegal and potentially dangerous, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said today, and consumers are advised to steer clear of the oral drops, pellets and sprays that can be found online and in retail stores.

The FDA, along with the Federal Trade Commission, issued warning letters today to seven companies selling over-the-counter, homeopathic weight-loss products marketed as containing HCG.

The products are marketed with claims that hormone human chorionic gonadotropin, which is found in the urine of pregnant women, is a "natural" way to increase metabolism and spur weight loss.

But the products are labeled with the recommendation to consume no more than 500 calories a day, and there is no evidence that HCG contributes to weight loss beyond what comes with such severe a calorie restriction, said Elizabeth Miller of the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research, speaking at a news conference today.

There are no FDA-approved weight-loss products that contain HCG, and HCG products that are marketed for weight loss are unproven and potentially unsafe, Miller said.

Moreover, limiting calorie intake to 500 calories a day is unhealthy, and increases risk of developing gallstones, heart arrhythmias and electrolyte imbalances, Miller said.

"The weight-loss industry, perhaps more than any other, is fad-driven," said Richard Cleland, an assistant director at the Federal Trade Commission. "It's also fraud-driven," Cleland said, citing the past examples of products containing the plant Hoodia gordonii and acai berries, which were also marketed as weight loss products without evidence of being effective or safe.

Neither agency had data available on how many consumers have bought such products, but the heavy marketing on the Internet indicates there are many purchasers, Cleland said. A recent survey showed that almost 5 million Americans each year are victims of weight-loss fraud, he said.

The warning letters inform the companies that they are violating federal law because they are advertising products without having reliable scientific evidence that their claims are true. Letters were issued to Nutri Fusion Systems, Inc, Natural Medical Supply, LLC DBA HCG Complete Diet, HCG Platinum, LLC, Theoriginalhcgdrogs.com, HCG Diet Direct, LLC, Hcg-miracleweightloss.com and HCG Drops, LLC.

Other companies marketing similar products should also take action to correct any violations, Cleland said.

[CherylB]

Originally Posted by Gremom

YAY Cheryl!! You are killing it so far! KUTGW!!

Afternoon everyone! Quick post from me too. Woke up the same today which I am fine with. Better than a gain! I am having real hard time with cravings, so I a praying that TOM comes soon so I don't have to deal with TOM and my teeth at the same time! THAT would be awful, but I feel like that it is going to shake out.

Anyway, will be back tonight. A mom's job is NEVER done!

Thanks! I'm so enjoying this round. And I'm pretty much sold on only eating organic meat from now on. Yes, it's more expensive. But if I can learn to eat less (will need to learn to do that or go right back up the scale ladder,) then it will all work out fine. Who knows how it will affect my own hormone and mental stability as well. (?)

I'm sorry about the cravings. I hope TOM and teeth don't present themselves at the same time. Talk about adding "insult to injury"!

Originally Posted by minimonkey

Morning all!

Whoooohooo on the loss, Lynne!

Disney -- I hope you feel better soon, too! Right there with ya on the not weighing -- I'm shooting for a Friday weigh in if it feels like the TOM weight is leaving.

Tay, enjoy your time in P3! Stress and dieting don't mix well, so that sounds like a good choice.

Sorry if my personals are lagging today -- I'm just waking up, and adding thera-flu to my already groggy head... so, definitely not at my best

Mini, sorry about the cramps and migraines. Too much pain at once! Thanks for the enthusiasm on my behalf! I'm lapping it up right now.

Originally Posted by DisneyPrincess

Not only am I having major cravings from the junk, but I'm such an all or nothing person that I have the "I already blew it, why not have more" mind set. I'm going to work hard on pushing that out right now

We can do this mini. I have a feeling we are both going to be under 110 within a week!

ME TOO. I am so "all or nothing" that it's scary. And impulsive? Oy! I'm sorry for your cravings. Do you ever chew sugar-free gum? I do and it helps a lot with the need for a taste or a chew. I like Trident Watermelon, Extra Dessert Delights (orange creme pop, strawberry shortcake, mint chocolate chip and the apple pie one is also nice), and Dentine "Fire". Very hot cinnamon gum; not for the faint of heart.

Originally Posted by minimonkey

I was wondering last night about some of the old-timers who have left the hcg board, and how they are doing. Liz came to mind... and Mousie .... and Awlass ....

I hope they are doing well.

Maybe we will see a resurgence of them with the New Years Dieting crowd...?

I sometimes wonder about people who used to post often, too. I think of people like BeezerLouisiana who reach goal and then vanished. It makes me wonder if they are gone because they are doing well or because they AREN'T doing well. I think when we stay close and keep each other lifted up, we all do better.

Originally Posted by pugswin

sooo the scale moved down today, yay! Not that much but better than nothing.

I'm so hungry, I think its time for me to start thinking P3.. I'd love to get down below 180, but maybe I'm just pushing it and wasting time at this point.

It was going so well before Thanksgiving too. Is this a stall? a set point? a plateau? Time for 3 weeks P3 and then go back to get down to goal?

Yippee! I hope you can get below 180 before you slide into P3. I can't get used to so many people complaining of hunger while taking hhcg! I could never do this if the pellets weren't doing their job. It would be brutal, and I'm not into brutal.

It could very-well be a set-point. That could explain the hunger, too. Your body is telling you to feed it so it doesn't have to let go of the weight it has grown so comfortable holding on to. If you don't give in, I'll bet you'll see a nice whoosh soon. Be strong!

Originally Posted by Alaskafisher

Good morning...I did my last two days vlcd's with no drops so today I eat again. Hmmm what to eat????? Dh and I went to the grocery store yesterday to stock up on healthy eats...I can't believe how expensive it is to eat healthy! He's "dieting" too, in his way so we can both be ready for our cruise. My poor granddaughter, she came over after school yesterday, and after dinner she ALWAYS gets dessert at Nanas, well there was absolutely nothing sweet for her to have, she's not used to that!!! My candy drawer is always well stocked! Guess I'll give in and get something for her.

Cheryl... Great losses the last couple weeks, your going to make goal before you know it.

Mini..hang in there, I hate being sick, and add TOM to that and it's a double whammy!!

Everyone else good luck in your journey and have a wonderful day!

Oh, and I'm down to 149 even this morning so my goal for P3 is stay under 150!

to your P3! I hope you have fun eating Atkins' style. I posted this link on a few threads today, but it's worth taking a chance on posting it twice on same thread. Linda's Low Carb Menus & Recipes - Home All recipes with an asterix is suitable for Atkins Induction phase, and so good for P3 too! Feast your eyes!

Originally Posted by DisneyPrincess

Yup Tom is looming. I have back cramps so it's a sure sign. No wonders today was so hard. Calories are way high :blush:

Im honestly considering a water fast tomorrow. I've been reading on it and see some real benefits. Has anyone done them?

I don't think I've ever done just water, but when I do a fast it's water and black coffee and sugar-free gum. I find them to be great.

Originally Posted by HexaTheAmazon

Ladies, the FDA is now sending out warning letters to vendors who are selling HCG. They are saying that there is no scientific proof that it works and makes people eat 500 calories. FDA is now seeking to regulate or stop it from being sold. I am going to investigate this more however, they are only doing this because it is more financially feasible for people to be overweight and ill for the pharm. industry than for them to lose weight and live healthy lives. Of course it works, and we are all living proof of that. The problem is HCG is getting too popular and people can independently get well. This does not sit well with the pharm. industry.

You might want to load up while ypu can.

That's been happening for a while now. In fact, that's why I have more than enough bottles of pellets in my possetion! I will probably have two unopened bottles left when I hit goal. I might use them in the future with a more Atkins-style higher calorie, higher fat round (though I won't look at it as a round) to see if reshaping can really occur. Not even considering that right now, though.

I figure if they pull it from the stores and online places, you can still get it by prescription for a Dr. Not much of a biggie. Then again, that's coming from someone who is approaching goal.

[CherylB]

I had a very full day today. I applied for energy assistance and was approved, but the funds are way down from last year and the amount they can help with heating oil is much lower. Still, I'm happy!

Took dog to the vet for another eye-staining and the Vet asked me which eye it was because she couldn't tell by looking at them! When she stained it she said it was completely healed!!! No more vet visits until next year when her shots are due. No more eye drops! Woohoooo! Will buy her some "doggles" so she can still stick her head out the window in the car. Until then, it ain't happening.

I forget who said it, but they congratulated me on my losses "over the past couple of weeks." That's all one week, baby! One beautiful week on my final round. Going out with a total bang and praying my losses will stay steady. I'm afraid that when the losses slow to a crawl I'll lose some of this "pumped" feeling. Regardless, I'm staying strong and finishing strong!

[DisneyPrincess]

Well I think after some research I'm going to try a 48 hour fast. I will allow 1 cup of coffee each morning and then sip on water with lemon and green tea all day. I expect it to be challenging, but after today's binge I need it for my mental state AND my physical. I hope I'm not too cranky and/or tired as I do have 6 kids the next 2 days. I'm going to drop the exercise and just concentrate in kicking my cravings and getting back into a good state of mind

[Violet_Dream]

Hi Friends! Thanks for the post Hexa...my brother-in-law called my husband today about this to let me know to stock up. He told him no worries because I was on my last round and will probably have some left over.

Two other co-workers commented on my weight loss today and one of them said to me, "you're shrinking!"

Question: A co-worker/friend of mine is on R1VLCD9. She's been eating out some days and today had turkey. I told her it wasn't protocol (this is what she's following) and today she gained again. She did two HUGE loading days as I suggested and I even shared my menu with her. Can she just start over and load again? I don't know what the difficulty is, this is so simple. She asked me if this was okay and wanted to double-check.

Thank you all and have a wonderful evening.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by Violet_Dream

Question: A co-worker/friend of mine is on R1VLCD9. She's been eating out some days and today had turkey. I told her it wasn't protocol (this is what she's following) and today she gained again. She did two HUGE loading days as I suggested and I even shared my menu with her. Can she just start over and load again? I don't know what the difficulty is, this is so simple. She asked me if this was okay and wanted to double-check.

I would just continue on, not load again. Turkey isn't protocol but I used it my first couple of rounds due to $$$ issues, and had no problems with it. The problem with eating out is the portion sizes are usually so off, and sodium.

Not sure why she wants to start over? Easier to just keep going...even with mistakes (and so many of us have cheats along the way) I do think it's better to get your 21 days over with. Otherwise she'll still be in P2 for holidays.

Just my thoughts!

[CherylB]

Originally Posted by DisneyPrincess

Well I think after some research I'm going to try a 48 hour fast. I will allow 1 cup of coffee each morning and then sip on water with lemon and green tea all day. I expect it to be challenging, but after today's binge I need it for my mental state AND my physical. I hope I'm not too cranky and/or tired as I do have 6 kids the next 2 days. I'm going to drop the exercise and just concentrate in kicking my cravings and getting back into a good state of mind

I think this is a perfect idea for you right now. Fasting totally arrests food demons. It's like showing the body who's in charge. It's very liberating! It's worth it, so hang tough. You can eat in a day or so. (48 hours may be a lot for your first time, considering you are taking care of 6 kids!

Originally Posted by Violet_Dream

Hi Friends! Thanks for the post Hexa...my brother-in-law called my husband today about this to let me know to stock up. He told him no worries because I was on my last round and will probably have some left over.

Two other co-workers commented on my weight loss today and one of them said to me, "you're shrinking!"

Question: A co-worker/friend of mine is on R1VLCD9. She's been eating out some days and today had turkey. I told her it wasn't protocol (this is what she's following) and today she gained again. She did two HUGE loading days as I suggested and I even shared my menu with her. Can she just start over and load again? I don't know what the difficulty is, this is so simple. She asked me if this was okay and wanted to double-check.

Thank you all and have a wonderful evening.

How much has she lost in the 9 days? You said she "gained again" which sounds like something is very wrong. Are you sure she's taking actual hcg and not one of those bottles that say HCG in big letter on them but have no hcg in them? How's her hunger? Eating out a lot is a terrible idea on P2. I think it's a rotten idea no matter what diet plan you are following. You just have no idea what's really in the food and how they are preparing it. Who knows if it has MSG in it or whathaveyou. Better to eat your own food.

Anyway, if you can tell us more about how much she's lost, how much she's gained (each day she went up) and how she's feeling on the hcg, that would help us to help her.

Off to bed, little ones! I'm done for the day. Let's all stay safe, warm and protected tonight. May God watch over us all.

[star a.d.]

thanks for the encouraging words! TOM showed up today. sigh. so I'm completely exhausted and feel terrible.

high hopes for everyone's great progress!

mini, hope you get the losses you've worked so hard for once TOM goes away!

[Violet_Dream]

Originally Posted by CherylB

How much has she lost in the 9 days? You said she "gained again" which sounds like something is very wrong. Are you sure she's taking actual hcg and not one of those bottles that say HCG in big letter on them but have no hcg in them? How's her hunger? Eating out a lot is a terrible idea on P2. I think it's a rotten idea no matter what diet plan you are following. You just have no idea what's really in the food and how they are preparing it. Who knows if it has MSG in it or whathaveyou. Better to eat your own food.

Yes, you're right. I will ask her tomorrow for specifics and I agree about eating out, that's why I rarely do it.

I'll post tomorrow with her stats.

[minimonkey]

Hi ladies!

I think I am going to stock up on some hhcg just in case it goes off the market for good ... I doubt it will, but no harm in being prepared -- I think the companies will just have to change their wording and claims, etc. There was a similar scare earlier in the year, and not much ultimately changed.

I hope never to need it again, but would like the option in case I do.

Today was much better -- much less hunger, thank goodness. I am coming in at somewhere between 800-1000 calories I think, and that is just fine.

Disney -- sorry to hear about the binge Good luck with the fast, if you decide to go through with it... I have had successful fasts before -- up to seven full days with no calories -- but you do have to be ready for it -- and I don't think it is the best method for compensating for a binge, personally. I think it is better just to resume your plan the next day -- but that is just my opinion.

When I've fasted, it has usually been because I was doing a detox/cleanse -- and that is a different thing altogether. (The few times I've done them as compensation, they've just ended up feeling like self punishment, and that led to more guilt over eating... etc. )

The other thing I have done is intermittent fasting, and have had planned fasts during that ... I don't find them very effective for weight loss, personally, but I sometimes enjoy the discipline of doing them.

[minimonkey]

I'm about to make some more thera-flu, and finish this smaller paper. It'll be a night of too little sleep, but I can nap tomorrow afternoon, and this is the last of the super-tight deadlines.... and after this week, I have some time off! It'll be time in which I have work to do, but I can lounge around in my pajamas doing the work, and that will be very nice indeed.

I'm shooting for a fat-fast day tomorrow I think -- or maybe a day much like today, which was a good mix of foods, and not too much of any of it.

Plan is still to weigh Friday, unless I am still a water-balloon at that point in time...lol....

[minimonkey]

Star -- sorry you are under the weather with TOM.. but at least you know that is the reason you gained, and now you can get the darn thing over with!

My cramps are a lot better tonight, thank goodness, and the cold is a rather mild one it seems, so that is encouraging.

[minimonkey]

Okay -- paranoid me, I just went and ordered two more bottles of the intermountain drops (2 oz each) from Netrition -- I want them on hand in case I need them again, though I am going to do my level best not to let that happen.

I actually am going to switch to the drops I have for the rest of the round I'm doing -- they work better on hunger than the pellets do for me.

I am also going to do a bigger order with more Da Vinci syrups (roommate and I are going through those pretty fast!) and am hoping I can get that in before it gets too cold to ship them .. but I don't have the time to spend on that tonight... so I just did the hcg at this point.

[star a.d.]

Originally Posted by minimonkey

Star -- sorry you are under the weather with TOM.. but at least you know that is the reason you gained, and now you can get the darn thing over with!

My cramps are a lot better tonight, thank goodness, and the cold is a rather mild one it seems, so that is encouraging.

true! I sure hope so anyway! heh.

YAY for lessening cramps, and a milder cold!

[minimonkey]

Violet -- I totally forgot to comment and congratulate you on the compliment from your co-workers -- that feels so great when people notice!

[DisneyPrincess]

Good morning.

I'm starting my fast today. I'm shooting for 24 hours to start and if I feel I can go longer I will.

I want to comment that I am NOT doing this to compensate for my binge. I too have done fasts before (juice fasts) and for me they are a huge relief from my mental state.

I did weigh this morning and I'm not even counting this weight. It's ridiculous!

So I'll probably be here for support later as I know this is hard, but wille worth it in the end

I hope everyone has a good intentional day

[paulabob]

Down a bit to 127.4. Technically in range, but want to be under that 126.2 number for maintenance, so doing all meat/egg/cheese day. That was my "best" losing CDs back in the summer. That seems to switch around though, but this is easy to do and I'm all for easy right now.

Hope everyone is feeling better and kicks TOMs to the curb today.

DP good luck with the fast...not something I've ever done. I waited to eat until 3 pm last Friday and it felt like the end of the world...kudos for the willpower!