Is it harder?

[Lildrew]

Is and/or has anyone else been having a harder time in their second round of P2? I don't know what the deal is, but I am having a much harder time keeping my head in the game this go round.

I think it was easier before because I had such a straight up goal (trip to France) and now although I know I want to get to 140 (18 lbs to go), I am having a MUCH harder time staying on program.

Is it is all a head game? Am I alone feeling this way? Any suggestions? Hugs? Kick in the booty?

[petchie]

I tried twice to do a second round and never got past day 4 on either. I knew my head was not in it, so I stopped and consider the round I started Saturday as my second.

I think you really need to be in the right mindset to do this.

[Violet_Dream]

Rounds 1 and 2 were a breeze for me. I'm currently on R3 of P2 and it's the same as the other two rounds. My head is 100% focused, I feel good (for the most part - TOM should be here any day now ).

Good Luck!

[star a.d.]

I've found my second round easier. granted, I'm having more calories, but it seems to be working better for me.

[Lildrew]

Originally Posted by star a.d.

I've found my second round easier. granted, I'm having more calories, but it seems to be working better for me.

Hi Star. Are you Rogue? What are you doing differently? Thanks!!

[star a.d.]

Originally Posted by Lildrew

Hi Star. Are you Rogue? What are you doing differently? Thanks!!

I'm quite rogue, hehe!

first of all, I seem to lose better eating around 700 calories a day. I did some 500 calorie days but didn't seem to lose as well. I also all but gave up the fruit and grains for more protein. I've also done a few high fat days (still keeping it low cal) which seemed to make a difference. OH, and I've been supplementing, LOTS of vitamins including potassium and biotin.

when eating close to protocol, I felt floaty-headed and got hungry too easily, it seemed. last round, by about day 17 or 18 on VLCD, I was freezing, like shivery cold, and my hair was starting to fall out, so I bailed early on it. plus, I hated most of what I was eating. this time, I've done the three weeks with drops, and today has been day one of low cal without them. suffice to say, I CANNOT wait until thursday!

another tip: I ate soup a LOT. it's amazing how far 100 grams of cooked ground beef or chicken breast goes in a couple of cups of stock. I'd break it into two or three helpings, not servings, and feel like I REALLY ate.

[minimonkey]

There have been a lot of threads about this topic -- a LOT of people have a much harder time on round 2 for some reason! It isn't everyone, but it does happen to a lot of people....

Hang in there, sweetie -- this can be your final round if you stick it out, and you can be strutting around at goal... how much better an incentive could you ask for?

[star a.d.]

whoops, I said I did drops this time, but I did pellets. much better.

also, mini is right...how awesome would it be for this to be your last round?

[katiesmemaw]

Originally Posted by Lildrew

Is and/or has anyone else been having a harder time in their second round of P2? I don't know what the deal is, but I am having a much harder time keeping my head in the game this go round.

I think it was easier before because I had such a straight up goal (trip to France) and now although I know I want to get to 140 (18 lbs to go), I am having a MUCH harder time staying on program.

Is it is all a head game? Am I alone feeling this way? Any suggestions? Hugs? Kick in the booty?

Hi Lildrew, So sorry that this has been a tough round for you. It was definitely a different round for me than R1. I'm currently in Day 2 of P4 and really get scared to death when I read the issues and struggles we all seem to be having. I'm still .2 below my LDW but that's nervous territory for me. First round I actually lost an addtional 7+ pounds in 3 and 4. This time I actually "stabilized" better I guess but still soooooooooo afraid of gaining. I've never had to do a cd in either round but don't want to head down that slippery slope.
I'm in there with you for the long haul and praying for your success to get to "AND STAY" at your ultimate goal.
Betty

[LilacBruze]

Hi there, Miss Cute-as-a-button!

I have had a bear of a time this round. I would probably have more head in the game if not for setpoints and stalls beyond my control. As a result of both, I have been having a really difficult time in several areas... most importantly... FORGETTING to take my hcg! Which of course causes the domino effect - more appetite, less fat burning... which compounds my setpoint and stall issues. Meh. It's been very frustrating but it kind of only makes me MORE determined.

I started this 2nd round on 9/30... two months later and I am not at goal yet. I am beginning to think I will hit goal the 12th of never... so I feel your pain...

[Lildrew]

Thank you so much ladies!!

I am debating on cutting the fruit and melba and introducing more protein (say egg whites) for my morning and afternoon snacks. It's 10:50 here, I had my apple and melba at 9:30 and I am starving! I don't eat lunch until after 12. Maybe it's a dosage issue?

The other idea is to start P3 next Friday (12/5), which I really don't want to do. I don't know if I have a whole nother round in me right now. But maybe I would if I got my head in the right place. No matter what I am staying on P2 until then. Maybe by the time TOM passes things will be clearer.

I am just so frustrated right now. I need to shake it off and keep trekking along.

Any thoughts on the extra protein would be appreicated and I can't tell you much I appreciate the hugs and comfort!!!!!! You ladies are the best. I don't know what I would do without you all!!!

[martiangurll]

Egads, R2 has been so much harder for me. For one, I gained 8 lbs on Load and it took 3 days to get rid of it. Then I screwed up on Monday and ate a very small amount of popcorn and gained a pound, just lost it after 3 days of being good. I feel like I am spinning my wheels. I really wanted to lose 20 lbs this round and I think I will be lucky to lose 5 or 10 (not counting the 8 of "load". I have only myself to blame for eating that popcorn and I will never ever do that again. I really did not think it would take 4 days to overcome that small "cheat." I don't want to be doing P2 on Christmas week, so I will end the round at Day 23 but I feel it was a waste of time...not that I am begruding the few pounds I will lose since it is taking a lot of effort to get them off. Please someone else tell me that R3 will be easier...

[Lynai]

Martiangurrll, I feel your pain, I gained a whopping 10 lbs on load days, yes, that is right 10 flippin pounds, sheesh!!!. It took 4 days of VLCD to remove it and today I saw my first drop from my LDW.

Well it took some arguing with myself to get my head in the game and now I feel committed. I was hoping for a good 20 before Christmas, but I'll be thrilled now to make 15 (not counting the darn load weight). It is what it is and I feel much better than I did even just yesterday. It truly is a mind game and I have to talk myself into success.

[C'Marie]

Yes, R2 was harder for me. Even though I had a loooooong way to go still. I think it might be almost worse for those of you for whom R2 may or may not get you to goal, because you're close. If you had really good success on R1 and you feel good and you look good, and so close, that maybe you're just not "desperate" enough like R1 to stick to everything perfectly protocol, even if you don't cheat, maybe you don't get enough sleep, take your hcg as regular, drink all your water, force your mind to stay focused, etc etc. I feel sorta like that now - I look so much better and feel so much better that I am not as desperate as I was in the beginning to see that this works. I think we may just get a little complacent at times because look how far we've come. It's good to be happy with your progress but also you still need that "eye of the tiger" (to quote Rocky LOL) to finish off to goal. My two cents anyways.

[Lildrew]

Originally Posted by C'Marie

Yes, R2 was harder for me. Even though I had a loooooong way to go still. I think it might be almost worse for those of you for whom R2 may or may not get you to goal, because you're close. If you had really good success on R1 and you feel good and you look good, and so close, that maybe you're just not "desperate" enough like R1 to stick to everything perfectly protocol, even if you don't cheat, maybe you don't get enough sleep, take your hcg as regular, drink all your water, force your mind to stay focused, etc etc. I feel sorta like that now - I look so much better and feel so much better that I am not as desperate as I was in the beginning to see that this works. I think we may just get a little complacent at times because look how far we've come. It's good to be happy with your progress but also you still need that "eye of the tiger" (to quote Rocky LOL) to finish off to goal. My two cents anyways.

That expresses how I have been feeling in a nut shell. I really want to lose another 15 lbs., but it has been much harder to stay focused on it. I think I leapt too quickly back onto P2 after getting back from my trip. I think it would be best for me to go on P3 soon, have a VERY solid P3, get my head on straight and then do P2 in January.

You really did take the words right out of my mouth!!

[minimonkey]

Oh do I feel the stall-pain -- I just came out of a stall that lasted nearly 4 weeks -- and yes, I stayed on my rogue plan during all of that. Hmph.

It seems to have broken now, and I am spitting distance from goal, so I am going to weather it out -- I've gone stricter with the diet, and am going to stay the course to goal -- but I may have to do an interrupt for a couple/few days at Xmas/New Year --

I'd love to be at goal by then, but am not at all sure I'll make it.

[C'Marie]

Well, when I start Round 6, I'll tell you all how much harder that one is than Round 1 - HA!
And seriously hoping I don't have much long R5P4 gain/lose/gain to re-lose - ARG

[martiangurll]

Originally Posted by Lynai

Martiangurrll, I feel your pain, I gained a whopping 10 lbs on load days, yes, that is right 10 flippin pounds, sheesh!!!. It took 4 days of VLCD to remove it and today I saw my first drop from my LDW.

Well it took some arguing with myself to get my head in the game and now I feel committed. I was hoping for a good 20 before Christmas, but I'll be thrilled now to make 15 (not counting the darn load weight). It is what it is and I feel much better than I did even just yesterday. It truly is a mind game and I have to talk myself into success.

Well, been a while but I worked thru that frustration and emotional drama I st00pidly impose on myself with this weight loss thang. I think my head wasn't really in the right place for R2. I totally agree it is about being willing to do whatever it takes and I guess I was overconfident and didn't follow the rules as closely as I did in R1. But, I found out some things that can make future rounds easier, so maybe it isn't so bad. I am gonna end this round at day 23 so I am not around family (provokes my issues) and during Christmas while on P2. I will be only looking at losing maybe 10 lbs (I guess 18 if you count all that load weight!) so not nearly the 20 I had hoped for. Oh well, it isn't failure but low aim that I abhor. I may be lucky enough to lose up to 15 but if not, I remind myself--pounds AND inches! And, my HCG buddy reminds me, there is a lot of reshaping going on in P3, to paraphrase Jerry Lee Lewis. So I can deal with that. Then I am going to do a longer P3 (six weeks) and knuckle up for R3. Bring da pain! I think it will be easier for both of us because of lessons learned in R2. I can summarize my lessons in a triad: Don't eat too many carbs on load, Don't eat any popcorn whatsoever in P2 and I can tolerate more protein and still lose (although maybe slower). I am considering another experiment on R3, more protein, and no fruit except Atkins "legal" berries. And to limit those to 5 grams per day only. I will observe and report if that produces better losses.

Originally Posted by minimonkey

Oh do I feel the stall-pain -- I just came out of a stall that lasted nearly 4 weeks -- and yes, I stayed on my rogue plan during all of that. Hmph.

It seems to have broken now, and I am spitting distance from goal, so I am going to weather it out -- I've gone stricter with the diet, and am going to stay the course to goal -- but I may have to do an interrupt for a couple/few days at Xmas/New Year --

I'd love to be at goal by then, but am not at all sure I'll make it.

Good sticking to plan and thank you for posting that monkey. It will inspire me the next time my candy-butt feels self pity on a 3 or 4 day stall. Did you do correction days at all during that stall? And when you go with stricter diet, how did you modify???

[Lildrew]

Hiya!! So, I had an epiphany this past weekend and decided I wasn't ready to give up on P2. I think that I was VERY emotional during TOM and let it side track me, which is very unusual for me. Anyway, long story short, I decided to continue on and start P2 Take 2, on Monday. I will continue on P2 until I get the last (as of today) 14.6 lbs off.

I really want the weight off and be firmly through P4 before my birthday in mid-February.

Thank you for all the support!! You guys are the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lynai]

Yay Lildrew!!! it truly is a mind game we have to engage in!! you are so close and have come so far, this is it, the last push! you will do it

Martiangurll thanks for sharing the lessons learned. Yes, I did too many carbs on my loads as well, next round I will just stick to mainly really whopping fat content and lighten the carb load a tad.

C'Marie, you are as always, an inspiration. We have very similar weightloss goals, so its a real pleasure to see your success

[SunnyFL]

I finally decided to do another round but I can see it's going to be hard for me. I have a picture of myself before I met my husband where I looked amazing. It's like a different person! I want to get there so badly!
Thanks for posting about the carbs, I can see myself loading too much on carbs and see that being an issue. My first round I loaded insanely on carbs and had the most awful headaches and hunger pangs for the first week...this time I will have some carbs of what I call "forbidden fruit" but will try and load with healthy good fats.
You ladies are truly an inspiration. For me if I lost 20 more pounds I'd be in heaven and that would be my last round. I need to stay focused...eye on the prize!
Lildrew you look so gorgeous, wow! Thank you for sharing your pictures...

[Lildrew]

Originally Posted by SunnyFL

I finally decided to do another round but I can see it's going to be hard for me. I have a picture of myself before I met my husband where I looked amazing. It's like a different person! I want to get there so badly!
Thanks for posting about the carbs, I can see myself loading too much on carbs and see that being an issue. My first round I loaded insanely on carbs and had the most awful headaches and hunger pangs for the first week...this time I will have some carbs of what I call "forbidden fruit" but will try and load with healthy good fats.
You ladies are truly an inspiration. For me if I lost 20 more pounds I'd be in heaven and that would be my last round. I need to stay focused...eye on the prize!
Lildrew you look so gorgeous, wow! Thank you for sharing your pictures...

Awww, thank you Sunny! I haven't been this thin in a good 15 years and was only that way for a short time. It's nice to have a picture to really gage where you are at. I LOVE your new avatar!!!

[myrna]

Originally Posted by C'Marie

Yes, R2 was harder for me. Even though I had a loooooong way to go still. I think it might be almost worse for those of you for whom R2 may or may not get you to goal, because you're close. If you had really good success on R1 and you feel good and you look good, and so close, that maybe you're just not "desperate" enough like R1 to stick to everything perfectly protocol, even if you don't cheat, maybe you don't get enough sleep, take your hcg as regular, drink all your water, force your mind to stay focused, etc etc. I feel sorta like that now - I look so much better and feel so much better that I am not as desperate as I was in the beginning to see that this works. I think we may just get a little complacent at times because look how far we've come. It's good to be happy with your progress but also you still need that "eye of the tiger" (to quote Rocky LOL) to finish off to goal. My two cents anyways.

This is exactly what my problem was. I decided to just enjoy the new clothes until after the holidays, then try again.