Anyone try a High Fat Correction Day? Need advice today...

[IThinkICan]

I'm stumped as to why, but I'm just over my 2lbs-above-LDW weight today (I'm 2 & 1/2 wks into P3). Last night I was reading about chicken days and thought my next CD would be some form of that, but I didn't think I'd need to do one today already!

Anyway, I didn't have chicken in the house, and we had to leave in a hurry this morning unplanned... I knew I needed to eat something (stomach churning). Some cream cheese was calling to me in the fridge, and I thought that I'd read about some type of high fat correction day... also thought I'd read about a fat fast correction day. So I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing... but this morning I quickly combined some cream cheese, a little peanut butter, vanilla stevia drops, and butter... thought that would take care of being predominantly fat, with a little protein, and very low carb... I entered it all into My Fitness Pal and found I was at about 88% fat, 8% protein, 4% carbs with what I had (I did measure so I could keep track)... 400 or so calories worth. I snacked on that on my way out the door and here and there throughout the morning. (Side note... it was quite tasty!) Then I came home hours later, needing more to eat and not knowing exactly what again, so I grabbed a small oopsie with butter... thinking that's basically cream cheese, egg, and butter - should be fairly high fat again with a little protein.

I know my calories are quite low for late afternoon now. I estimated that small oopsie with whipped butter to only be about 100 calories, putting me at a mere 500 for today so far. Any thoughts to how many calories I should consume? Or what I should eat?

Part of me was half-jokingly/half-seriously considering turning my day into a "chocolate-peanut butter day"... trying some cocoa crack, having more cream cheese-peanut butter mixture like this morning, and perhaps whipping up some HWC with stevia and cocoa... (A chocolate peanut butter day does sound delightful, doesn't it?) But part of me is thinking do I need some real protein? Like beef or egg or more leftover turkey? Maybe bacon? Do I need some veggies? I can always drench stuff in butter or mayo. Can I/Should I even have cheese today? I don't know...

Any helpful advice or suggestions on what I should do the remainder of my day?

[Zbunny]

Hmmmm...I'm not sure about this one. I have read that some people do the fat fast, but that's not what you're doing, so it's a bit late for that one. I have only done Greek Yogurt CDs, and those end up being about 1,000-1,100 calories and 72 grams of fat (so about 55-60% fat calories). I typically lose 4 pounds with one of those (or back to my LDW). I would be a bit concerned that you might go off the deep end if you keep eating chocolate and peanut butter today, because that would definitely derail me. Maybe just eat some protein at this point, and call it a day. If you need to do a CD tomorrow, perhaps try one of the tried and true CDs (steak, chicken, eggs, or GY). Good luck!

[IThinkICan]

Glad you found something that works well for you, Zbunny! I read about people doing yogurt... I got Greek yogurt one time and just did not like it, and I couldn't find a way to eat it so that I liked it... so I just dumped it. It's barely tolerable.

I still don't know what I'm doing today... just had some almonds and butter (not almond butter, separate almonds & butter), keeping with the high fat theme.

I might have some bacon... thinking about a salad with bacon and cheese and full fat dressing... still not sure.

I'm gonna have to pick up some chicken or steak just in case for tomorrow...

[katiesmemaw]

Okay IThinkICan.....what are you thinking? First of all, I hope that you take this "tough love" only in the spirit it is intended. You have done so beautifully...you have lost 65 POUNDS!!!! You are 4 pounds from the goal you established for yourself.....what are you thinking??? Why aren't you in your car and on the way to the grocery store right now to get whatever you need to do a "tried and true cd?" You have come way tooooooooooo far to not be on top of this thing now. What can we do to support you???
Betty

[IThinkICan]

Originally Posted by katiesmemaw

Okay IThinkICan.....what are you thinking? First of all, I hope that you take this "tough love" only in the spirit it is intended. You have done so beautifully...you have lost 65 POUNDS!!!! You are 4 pounds from the goal you established for yourself.....what are you thinking??? Why aren't you in your car and on the way to the grocery store right now to get whatever you need to do a "tried and true cd?" You have come way tooooooooooo far to not be on top of this thing now. What can we do to support you???
Betty

Betty... Betty... Thanks for the reminder! LOL

But just for the record, this morning, my overall loss was showing at a mere 62.6 pounds, not 65.

I'm a mixed bag of feelings... feelings between wanting to experiment with different correction days because I've done several this P3 already, and the Steak Day one actually didn't work! Part of my frustration is also because something went screwy this last round, and my LDW was only 5 lbs less than my previous round's LDW... and I fear stabilizing is happening (or not quite happening) too high up in my range... not to mention my birthday is this coming Tuesday, and I made a promise to myself YEARS ago that I'd get down to my pre-both-pregnancies weight for this particular birthday (27th... 3rd anniversary of it... so, yeah, it's a big one...). But as of this morning, I'm only 1.6 below that goal, and with this roller coaster of a round, I'm really nervous that my weight might suddenly surprise me in the wrong direction!!!

Oh... btw... I have a fridge full of chicken now... for tomorrow... I'm ready.

But today is showing some wacky numbers... by day's end I'll be at approximately 1100-1200 calories, coming from a whopping 88% fat, 9% protein, and 3% carbs... about 14-16 cups of water consumed. Part of my experimenting came from this post, in case anyone is curious: I'm doing another Experiment Day for correction, Fat Fast Day. - HCG Diet Info Forums Though originally, I'm pretty sure I saw something else that was called a "high fat correction day" in some discussions that wasn't quite as strict as this FFD... hence my hesitation today - with the sorta ill-prepared makeshift correction day attempt with high fat.

So anyone want to guess how much my weight will change tomorrow morning? Will I go up? Down? By how much? Or will I stay the same? Oooh... the mystery... but if this actually works, I think some time I may have to revisit my chocolate-peanut butter correction day experiment... just kidding... I think...

[katiesmemaw]

I ThinkICan....okay 62.6, not 65 pounds. Do you hear yourself that is a Miraculous change in your body. I do understand your frustration and your fear!!! Something is definitely going on with you. Could be any number of things:

1. "Reaching a Former Level
The third type of interruption in the regular loss of weight may last much longer - ten days to two weeks. Fortunately, it is rare and only occurs in very advanced cases, and then hardly ever during the first course of treatment. It is seen only in those patients who during some period of their lives have maintained a certain fixed degree of obesity for ten years or more and have then at some time rapidly increased beyond that weight. When then in the course of treatment the former level is reached, it may take two weeks of no loss, in spite of HCG and diet, before further reduction is normally resumed."
2. Some of the same issues Shelbyla and others have talked about with the Leptin reset stuff.
3. Stress of having a self imposed date and deadline to "get er done by". Panic

Sure wish Dr. Simeons was still alive and available to us for consultation. You may find it worth the time investment to look over Pounds and Inches again. There may be a tip or insight in there to help solve this!!
Will keep you in my thoughts and be here for you!!!
Betty

[minimonkey]

There are other boards that promote a high fat correction day, basically exactly what you are doing.. and many have had success with them.... I hope you hop on the scale tomorrow and are right back where you want to be!

If not, there's chicken waiting for you....

[Trishagrrl]

I'd be interested in hearing about anyones success or lack thereof using a high fat CD. I've had a terrible time the last week and a half stabilizing. The first week of P3 went flawlessly and for some reason my body is NOT cooperating anymore. I've been on P3 for 3.5 weeks now and almost every-other day of the last 2 or so weeks have been CD's of various kinds. I lose one pound and my CD and my day back on P3 protocol (which is very strictly low-carb) I gain 2.

I would try a couple days of fat fast if I knew it would work... anyone have any experience?

[IThinkICan]

Originally Posted by katiesmemaw

Something is definitely going on with you. Could be any number of things:

1. "Reaching a Former Level
The third type of interruption in the regular loss of weight may last much longer - ten days to two weeks. Fortunately, it is rare and only occurs in very advanced cases, and then hardly ever during the first course of treatment. It is seen only in those patients who during some period of their lives have maintained a certain fixed degree of obesity for ten years or more and have then at some time rapidly increased beyond that weight. When then in the course of treatment the former level is reached, it may take two weeks of no loss, in spite of HCG and diet, before further reduction is normally resumed."
2. Some of the same issues Shelbyla and others have talked about with the Leptin reset stuff.
3. Stress of having a self imposed date and deadline to "get er done by". Panic

Ya think?!?!?! And now I've stooped to the level of Larry the Cable Guy...

Originally Posted by minimonkey

There are other boards that promote a high fat correction day, basically exactly what you are doing.. and many have had success with them.... I hope you hop on the scale tomorrow and are right back where you want to be!

If not, there's chicken waiting for you....

Now, that would be fabulous! Trying to figure out how many calories... or if I should be counting them to begin with! 1200 is low for a normal day, maybe normal for a correction day... oh, and in addition, I had turkey broth thrice this evening (leftover turkey bones cooked up into a soup) mixed with some pan drippings (basically just some turkey juices, butter, fat)... just not sure how many calories or how much fat to include this as on top of the 1200... the joys of real-life cooking...

Haha... and worst case scenario, today proves to be a failure and I've got my chicken tomorrow! At least this time I'll be ready!

Originally Posted by Trishagrrl

I'd be interested in hearing about anyones success or lack thereof using a high fat CD. I've had a terrible time the last week and a half stabilizing. The first week of P3 went flawlessly and for some reason my body is NOT cooperating anymore. I've been on P3 for 3.5 weeks now and almost every-other day of the last 2 or so weeks have been CD's of various kinds. I lose one pound and my CD and my day back on P3 protocol (which is very strictly low-carb) I gain 2.

I would try a couple days of fat fast if I knew it would work... anyone have any experience?

Trisha... sorry you've been having a rough time! I'll let you know whether this does anything for me or does not. Though our bodies are so different that what works for you might not be the same as for me! I'm so glad we have a board like this though where we can learn from each others experiences and get ideas for our own pursuits.

These CDs can get tiring... but I've actually read some cases where HCG-ers have done CDs of various sorts to take their weight down more than two lbs below LDW - not sure how I feel about that yet... but for now, stabilizing is the concern! I'm glad you recognized that you needed to stabilize longer than 3 wks. I think I need to as well... gonna be interesting with my b-day celebration... I might have one intentional off day... which means at least one more CD that I need to be prepared for in the coming week... just totally tired of CDs when I've been good - eating like I've eaten all the previous P3's I've done... (this is my 4th).

We'll see what we'll see...

Hope to hear from others who have tried High Fat CDs.

[IThinkICan]

Results are in... makeshift high fat day resulted in a LOSS of a whopping .2 lbs... yeah, that decimal is in the right place... at least I lost more than some recent steak days... oy...

*munchin' on a chicken drumstick*

[tay65]

How are you doing now?

[IThinkICan]

Originally Posted by tay65

How are you doing now?

So sweet of you to check in!

My chicken day brought me down to where I needed to be! (I ate 2 drumsticks dusted with parmesan, for breakfast, repeated for lunch, repeated again for an afternoon snack... then for dinner I boiled two legs, drank the broth and made chicken salad out of the meat.)

Then a day later (the morning of my birthday), the scale showed another .2 down! I had a happy birthday! I ate my low carb treats and got my free Denny's grand slam (eggs, sausage, bacon, chicken sausage - all low carb), and stayed on track the whole day! Even on my birthday trip, I stayed pretty good. Normally I'm the type that if I splurge one meal, I'll figure I've already got a correction day coming, so I might as well splurge some more. Not this time. I had one dessert after lunch the first day away (11/30), then didn't have any other splurge until last night's dinner (12/1), which was more sinful than I intended after I learned what was actually in the recipe, but still, I am impressed with how I stayed happily low carb the rest of the time. I'm so used to the old habits, that I was expecting that I'd be 4-5 lbs over my limit today, but I'm only up about 2 lbs. And I know what to do!

And with my birthday out of the way (and still remaining below my birthday goal), I'm stress-free! That should also help with this loss/maintenance!

So nice to have support on this board. Thanks everyone! Hope you're all doing well too!

[C'Marie]

I've never tried a chicken day. I spose I should some time, you all talk about it like it's really easy and effective.
I've done all protein day but with mixed proteins and also mixed results.

[tay65]

i'm glad you're doing well! i've never done a chicken day either. might have to try it.