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Old 11-19-2011, 05:50 PM   #241
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Actually I was referring to my Down Days - which are similar to protocol days. Since I've really been doing JUDDD lately rather than hcg...

BUT, funnily enough I've had plenty of problems with her lately. She has such a mouth on her, it's so hard to keep her disciplined. I take away her IPOD and then she is all tears. She has always had a very emotional temperament (gee, wonder where that came from!). She is 12 and there is just SO MUCH DRAMA!
I hope that your day went well.. Just wanted to say a quick hello. I will not weigh again until next week. Today was a bust But, I will not quit. This is a journey not a sprint.
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Old 11-19-2011, 09:50 PM   #242
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Hexa -- I have no desire to compete, except with myself. I am neurotic enough as it is, and I know that would push me way past the point of complete obsessiveness.

Thanks for the reality check and also the very kind words-- I'm not feeling bad about my body at the moment, but since I do bulk so nicely, I also want the definition ... hence, the dropping the body fat so low.

I'm still expecting a drop from TOM at some point ... and really, I may just be willing to call it quits at 105 and hit the weights and the rebounder, hard, at that point. I miss my workouts much more than I miss all the food in the world... I really, really love working out.

I just couldn't make my body lose and gain at the same time -- a blessed few can do it, and I've managed it in the past.... but I couldn't this time.

Hexa, I'll confess: I'm vain. I want a six pack. I want striated arms, and really cut quads. I want to kick some *ss wearing next to nothing And the thing is, I can get there ... my genetics are such that I can achieve that look, but it is going to take a heck of a lot of work. I may well have to live with a less than stellar butt (that one is a killer for me) -- but the rest of it is totally possible.

I'm okay with work, though ... and okay with enduring pain and hardship, as long as I am allowed to whine and vent sometimes.....
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Cheryl -- oh yeah, I rode for a good portion of my life. I started as a little kid, and rode seriously in my twenties, and again for several years in my thirties. I'd ride now if resources allowed for it, but I chose to go to art school instead.... there are days I don't think that was a more practical decision, really... but hopefully the two masters degrees I should be racking up this coming May will make me change my mind....

I never owned a horse, because I never needed to own one -- I grew up in an area where people bought horses as status symbols, and they had no idea what they were getting into ... as soon as they realized that stalls needed mucking, and horses needed exercise even in the rain, and so forth, the thrill wore off... so they sponsored them out -- it was a good deal for everyone... they got free labor and training for the horse, I got to ride for free if I was willing to do the work, and they had to shoulder the cost of ownership. They still got to ride on rare sunny days and brag about their horses.... all was good.

Sad thing is that a lot of these people bought horses that were way beyond what they could handle, so they never really got to even enjoy them. Thoroughbreds and Arabians are both status symbols... and they also tend to be some of the flightiest and freakiest creatures on the planet (Arabs) or simply hot blooded and quick on the trigger (thoroughbreds) -- they aren't generally great for beginning riders. Obviously there are exceptions, but traits do run along with the breed to some degree.

I was pretty headstrong and a bit too confident when younger, and I was pretty convinced there wasn't a horse out there that would get the better of me.... I was wrong... the mustang did me in. It was my stubborn pride that kept me going back for more as long as I did -- the night of my fall, my trainer (a German trained, world class equestrian) told me that you actually couldn't pay her to ride that particular horse regularly.... she was there, and saw how it happened... she got on him right after I did, and he pulled the same nonsense with her on the jump. She sat it, but nearly came off herself.... that convinced me that I needed a different mount if I was ever going to jump again. She was twice the equestrian I ever dreamed of being, and if she couldn't wrangle him into behaving, I was sure I couldn't.

I wasn't sure if my body or my pride was injured worse on that one... but in retrospect, taking time off, healing, and starting again on a sweet pony mare was a really, really good decision. At the time, it felt like a failure.

So, this all adds up to me saying that sometimes I work too hard to achieve what I believe I want, and sometimes it is for the wrong reasons. There is a point where one is fighting a losing battle, and is better off picking a different battle.

I don't think that's the case with me and my body, though... I do believe that I can achieve what I desire, but it may come with a fairly high cost.
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:15 PM   #244
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Goodness, I just re-read my two earlier posts... guess I am feeling introspective and philosophical tonight...lol. I guess I need to do something to balance out the fact that I just spent two full days of my life tending to my vanity.

I'm finally feeling a little less beat down by TOM so hopefully that will be easing up soon.

Tomorrow, I get gussied up and take pics of the hair
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Hexa -- I have no desire to compete, except with myself. I am neurotic enough as it is, and I know that would push me way past the point of complete obsessiveness.

Thanks for the reality check and also the very kind words-- I'm not feeling bad about my body at the moment, but since I do bulk so nicely, I also want the definition ... hence, the dropping the body fat so low.

I'm still expecting a drop from TOM at some point ... and really, I may just be willing to call it quits at 105 and hit the weights and the rebounder, hard, at that point. I miss my workouts much more than I miss all the food in the world... I really, really love working out.

I just couldn't make my body lose and gain at the same time -- a blessed few can do it, and I've managed it in the past.... but I couldn't this time.

Hexa, I'll confess: I'm vain. I want a six pack. I want striated arms, and really cut quads. I want to kick some *ss wearing next to nothing And the thing is, I can get there ... my genetics are such that I can achieve that look, but it is going to take a heck of a lot of work. I may well have to live with a less than stellar butt (that one is a killer for me) -- but the rest of it is totally possible.

I'm okay with work, though ... and okay with enduring pain and hardship, as long as I am allowed to whine and vent sometimes.....
I love this post. Keeping it real girl. Yes, you are obviously a mesomorph female which is great for you. I, unfortunately, am a endomorph female which means I have to work twice as hard I also want the same things but I have to be patient or I become really discouraged and the pain. Geezzz... I have never felt my gluts so much in my life. Just sitting still they are throbbing. Probably cursing me out

I understand what you mean about working out but, I have to talk myself into it. When I am being trained I have to say, I love this.. I love this...(I am Lying), I love this...

I you want a stellar butt do deadlifts and squats (which I can tell you do) and try walking and jogging backwards on the treadmill. You have to focus for that one or you will roll right off the dang thing and POW

My cousin is a body builder and you should see her arms and abs. The only cut I can see right now is on my biceps. I am trying to up my work out regime to 9 hours a week. Right now I am at 5.5 hours. My metabolism works like a turtle stuck in quicksand so I need to press it hard all the time.

What exactly is a rebounder? I am a little clumsy at times. Will I rebound it off into a wall?
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:53 PM   #246
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Goodness, I just re-read my two earlier posts... guess I am feeling introspective and philosophical tonight...lol. I guess I need to do something to balance out the fact that I just spent two full days of my life tending to my vanity.

I'm finally feeling a little less beat down by TOM so hopefully that will be easing up soon.

Tomorrow, I get gussied up and take pics of the hair
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By the way Minimo...

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Old 11-19-2011, 11:38 PM   #248
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Hexa -- I'm actually more of a meso-endo -- I bulk easily if I work at it, but if I let myself gain weight I tend to round out in a very endomorphic, bottom heavy way. I am blessed in the muscle building department, though ... that comes much more easily for me than it does for many. It helps that I have been athletic most of my life -- but the bottom line is that I have friendly genetics.

A rebounder is a mini-trampoline, and I adore mine. It is pretty much the only cardio I can enjoy on a regular basis. I have a series of "Urban Rebounding Extreme" DVDs that are actually killer -- they are based on interval and circuit training (kind of riffing off p90x I think)

It does take some coordination to do it, but most of it can be modified. I did a jump from the floor to the rebounder last summer, missed, and took a faceplant, though.... owee!

I love squats and deadlifts ... and pretty much all other lifting as well. Yes, it hurts sometimes. Yes, sometimes it is a struggle... but the reward comes in doing that.

I also love barre work, and have done a lot of it -- it is great for reshaping the whole body. Oh, I may not make it to p3 without starting to work out again at this rate!!

My problem is that I have some very, very recalcitrant saddlebags that don't go away until I am really thin, and even then they give me trouble.... Nola and I commiserate about this a lot, as she fights the same thing.

I prefer a somewhat "off the beaten track" kind of beauty for myself .. I like funky styles, funky hair, piercings....and I love a lean, really shredded body ... when I am lean and buff, I get extremely vascular, and I love that too, though I know it kinda freaks some people out. Not exactly your traditional standards of beauty, but no easier to achieve, really.

I'm excited to do hair pictures, and actually get all swankied out I don't do that often enough ... when I am at school, I am generally going into the studio, and that rather precludes dressing cute at all. I like to say that art school killed my fashion sense.... it's kinda true.
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:57 AM   #249
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Good morning

Faced the scale and down another pound since Fridays weigh in. Woot! I'll be happy as long as I'm keeping the 1/2 a pound a day losses. I'm still hoping I can hit 110 by Thursday. I have to be very clean until then but it's totally doable at this point

I'm with you mini- stupid saddle bags never go away, even at under 100 pounds I still have round legs, despite my very skinny arms! I wish I bulked easily but I just dont.

Going to be an easy relaxing day. Going to keep very low carb again in hopes of hitting my thanksgiving goal

Hope everyone has a great day
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Well, had my Medium Day (1100 calories) and dropped 2 pounds back to 126.2, my starting weight from 2 weeks ago. Guess it was just water weight after all.

Still planning on 3 down days in a row (600 calories) so I can enjoy Thanksgiving.

DP, great loss!

Mini, I'm always impressed by your exercise routine!

Hexa, you got it...we never quit, even after our screw ups. It's the key to success...not succeeding every day, but continuing past our failures instead of wallowing in them.
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Wowsa, chatty girls last night!! Well, I had a mini fall, and went up 3 lbs this morning, and I did not really do much, sampling at Sam's Club and some french fries... so hopefully it will go away tomorrow! UGH!! (is there a smiley for pulling out your hair??) I am calling it yesterday for LIW for the break, and not injecting today and I will hope for recovery in the next 2 days and maintaining at 150 from yesterday during my stoppage, and then back at it after the holidays!!

Minimo, cant wait to see your hair... are you done with it now??

Paula, great job on the drop again. New territory is just waiting, maybe tomorrow!!!

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Cheryl -- oh yeah, I rode for a good portion of my life. I started as a little kid, and rode seriously in my twenties, and again for several years in my thirties. I'd ride now if resources allowed for it, but I chose to go to art school instead.... there are days I don't think that was a more practical decision, really... but hopefully the two masters degrees I should be racking up this coming May will make me change my mind....

I never owned a horse, because I never needed to own one -- I grew up in an area where people bought horses as status symbols, and they had no idea what they were getting into ... as soon as they realized that stalls needed mucking, and horses needed exercise even in the rain, and so forth, the thrill wore off... so they sponsored them out -- it was a good deal for everyone... they got free labor and training for the horse, I got to ride for free if I was willing to do the work, and they had to shoulder the cost of ownership. They still got to ride on rare sunny days and brag about their horses.... all was good.

Sad thing is that a lot of these people bought horses that were way beyond what they could handle, so they never really got to even enjoy them. Thoroughbreds and Arabians are both status symbols... and they also tend to be some of the flightiest and freakiest creatures on the planet (Arabs) or simply hot blooded and quick on the trigger (thoroughbreds) -- they aren't generally great for beginning riders. Obviously there are exceptions, but traits do run along with the breed to some degree.

I was pretty headstrong and a bit too confident when younger, and I was pretty convinced there wasn't a horse out there that would get the better of me.... I was wrong... the mustang did me in. It was my stubborn pride that kept me going back for more as long as I did -- the night of my fall, my trainer (a German trained, world class equestrian) told me that you actually couldn't pay her to ride that particular horse regularly.... she was there, and saw how it happened... she got on him right after I did, and he pulled the same nonsense with her on the jump. She sat it, but nearly came off herself.... that convinced me that I needed a different mount if I was ever going to jump again. She was twice the equestrian I ever dreamed of being, and if she couldn't wrangle him into behaving, I was sure I couldn't.

I wasn't sure if my body or my pride was injured worse on that one... but in retrospect, taking time off, healing, and starting again on a sweet pony mare was a really, really good decision. At the time, it felt like a failure.

So, this all adds up to me saying that sometimes I work too hard to achieve what I believe I want, and sometimes it is for the wrong reasons. There is a point where one is fighting a losing battle, and is better off picking a different battle.

I don't think that's the case with me and my body, though... I do believe that I can achieve what I desire, but it may come with a fairly high cost
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I like what you said that I underlined. I think it has meaning for us all and I'm glad you know it deep down, too. I did a google search last night on leasing a horse and it is a bit like becoming co-owner, with all the responsibilities and expenses that go with it. That is not what they described to me and certainly not what I am looking for or can afford right now. I'll stick to riding and lessons.

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Goodness, I just re-read my two earlier posts... guess I am feeling introspective and philosophical tonight...lol. I guess I need to do something to balance out the fact that I just spent two full days of my life tending to my vanity.

I'm finally feeling a little less beat down by TOM so hopefully that will be easing up soon.

Tomorrow, I get gussied up and take pics of the hair
Ok, isn't it tomorrow? We're waiting!

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I prefer a somewhat "off the beaten track" kind of beauty for myself .. I like funky styles, funky hair, piercings....and I love a lean, really shredded body ... when I am lean and buff, I get extremely vascular, and I love that too, though I know it kinda freaks some people out. Not exactly your traditional standards of beauty, but no easier to achieve, really.

I'm excited to do hair pictures, and actually get all swankied out I don't do that often enough ... when I am at school, I am generally going into the studio, and that rather precludes dressing cute at all. I like to say that art school killed my fashion sense.... it's kinda true.
You are such a tease! There you go saying the pics are imminent and here we are, chomping at the bit! Really, we really are excited to see the red-headed version of our Mini.

Waving hello to Paula, Cathy and DP! Nice drop, Disney. Hang in there ladies!

I updated my siggy so that tells the story for my day thus far. Nothing exciting.
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Old 11-20-2011, 11:31 AM   #253
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Hi Everyone. Happy losses!!!!

[QUOTE=minimonkey;15190289]Hexa -- I'm actually more of a meso-endo -- I bulk easily if I work at it, but if I let myself gain weight I tend to round out in a very endomorphic, bottom heavy way. I am blessed in the muscle building department, though ... that comes much more easily for me than it does for many. It helps that I have been athletic most of my life -- but the bottom line is that I have friendly genetics.

A rebounder is a mini-trampoline, and I adore mine. It is pretty much the only cardio I can enjoy on a regular basis. I have a series of "Urban Rebounding Extreme" DVDs that are actually killer -- they are based on interval and circuit training (kind of riffing off p90x I think)

It does take some coordination to do it, but most of it can be modified. I did a jump from the floor to the rebounder last summer, missed, and took a faceplant, though.... owee!

My problem is that I have some very, very recalcitrant saddlebags that don't go away until I am really thin, and even then they give me trouble.... Nola and I commiserate about this a lot, as she fights the same thing.
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Mini, I know I am not supposed to laugh about the rebounder incident but it sounds like a me thing. I research rebounder after reading your post and I found the Urban rebounder video. What? Girl, I saw the move where you jump from the floor on the rebounder. I would end up plastered to the dang wall. And I mean call the EMTs and peeellllll me off the wall and put an air hose in my mouth to reinflate me. Is that even a word? I would love to try but I need a stablization bar for that. I see that it is "so soft that even an egg" is safe. Humph... you ever heard of humpy dumpty? Antoinette jumped on a rebounder, Antoinette had a great fall and all the kings horse and all the kings men could not put Antoinette back together again

As far as saddlebags, you think you have it bad? I have duffel bags. Humph...
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so I'm getting frustrated, but am committed to finishing the round. I've been bobbing back and forth with the same lb and a half for about 5 days, and I'm ANNOYED. I came in at under 540 calories yesterday, after my long LOOOONG day, and nothing. I feel bloaty. my stupid body loooooves retaining water. I feel smaller, but I can feel retention in my hands, face and feet a little. granted, I did eat too much salt yesterday, and my sleep has been wonky for a week, but come on. grrrrrr. and when I looked at my nutritional intake for yesterday on the app on my phone, it said, 119 net carbs. WHAT???? when I go in and add it all up, taking away erythritol and fiber, I get about 35. and even if I add in the supposed erythritol calories, it's still under 70. WTH.

so I'm thinking I'm going to increase fat and protein, reduce everything else for the last week. and more plain water.

it's so obnoxious to be eating well under 1000 calories a day and not dropping weight.

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Star --

I hear ya -- I am stalled too. It's frustrating -- but if you are seeing inch loss, then it isn't a real stall... still, i hope it breaks for you soon!

Cheryl -- yes, pictures will come today -- for real! Hold your horses! And speaking of horses...

You might still want to check into the specific details of the stable's leasing program -- it sounds like what they were describing was a much more limited scope kind of thing... they may be calling it a "lease" -- but it didn't sound like they expected you to take on a lot of daily responsibility. A "lease" can be anything from a once or twice a week, minimal commitment, to nearly a full ownership --- I'd still at least make the call if I were you.
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Hexa -- go ahead and laugh about the rebounder -- I did, even at the time! Yeah, that move is a killer -- most of the moves aren't that nuts. I just modify that one now -- I don't have enough height in my floor jump to do it consistently and safely.

Whoohooo on the pound, Disney!!! You go with that!!
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I hear ya -- I am stalled too. It's frustrating -- but if you are seeing inch loss, then it isn't a real stall... still, i hope it breaks for you soon!
thanks! I'm going to have a chicken day tomorrow, then decide if I want to keep up with that sort of eating for a couple of days or switch back to having some fruit and popcorn or crackers.

also, can't wait to see your hair! it's tomorrow...where are the pics?
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Hi everyone! I made it to my 1st goal of 190! I'm at 190.3 after my 2 vlcd's w/o drops. My slight increase a couple days ago were TOM related. It kicked my a$$ yesterday.
I'm doing a "gonna take it slow" P3 and once I get stabilized, I'll "diet" on my own til January. I'll go back to hHCG then.
I haven't told my family yet. My husband will say "oh, you can eat NORMAL" now!" His famous words! So keeping this to myself for now.
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I seem to be stalled out again -- stayed exactly the same as yesterday. So, I've been within a 1 lb range for a couple of weeks now.

I can think of worse things, to be sure... and I know I have let the calories creep up a bit, even though I've been doing strict keto -- that's not enough without truly low calories.

Still, I need a stall breaker. I think tomorrow will be a steak day for me.... I'm just upping the protein a bit today along with the fat-- TOM still here, and I am battling a migraine, so I don't have a stall breaker in me right this moment.... but I am going to do one this weekend. And then I am getting serious about ramping up the losing protocol from there... I suspect I am going to have to drop pretty low cal to get this last bit of weight off....

I could do an egg day -- but a steak day sounds more appealing.

If I have it in me, I will do a few protein/veggie only days -- that generally works to get the scale moving.
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I have to say that squats and deadlifts have never given me a stellar butt!
I wish they did.

But then neither has any of the other kind of exercises I have done-
biking , running, aerobics, callan, t-tapp etc etc..

None of these things has affected my saddlebags and cellulite one whit! .. as far as I can tell...
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Old 11-20-2011, 01:20 PM   #262
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I was just looking in the mirror, and I think I am getting a lot of reshaping with this million year long round....

I really don't have much by way of saddlebags right now, nor is my butt flapping in the breeze the way it was at this weight the first time... so maybe there is a lot to be said for losing more slowly! I do seem to have kept a lot of the muscle I gained, so all things considered, this experiment is turning out to be a success -- albeit a very loooonnnngggg one.

I think I will be pretty happy and satisfied at 105, particularly if my body ends up staying firm the way it seems to be right now, and doesn't turn into a water balloon!

Okay, so the plan is to do today as normal -- I ate my high fat meal, with a bit more protein today than usual --- liquids only for the rest of the day (that's easy and my normal pattern) and then a beef and tomato day tomorrow.

I'd love to be back in my truly skinny jeans by the first of December -- that might even be possible, if I can get losing again. I'm almost there now.....
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Old 11-20-2011, 01:24 PM   #263
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You know, Nola -- I think for the most part, saddlebags are genetic - though I am pleasantly surprised by the relative lack of them on my backside right in this moment.

I don't have a stellar butt by any means, but it looks pretty good compared to the way it generally does -- I need to scale everything down about one more size, but I am actually rather happy with the shape I have right now.
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You know, Nola -- I think for the most part, saddlebags are genetic - though I am pleasantly surprised by the relative lack of them on my backside right in this moment.
I'm sure they are - even at 232 pounds I didn't really have them, just thicker thighs/butt. BUT, I do have the "Howard" pooch. That's what we nicknamed our lower bellies and my mother & her aunties all had it - so do most of my sisters, except my twin who has a different body type. Even the 95 pound aunties didn't have flat bellies.

To be honest, I'm pretty happy that right now when I take a bath, my stomach can actually get covered 100% by water. Hadn't had that happen since before I had kids. Little victories...

And as for my saddle area...it's woefully lacking. Now a drive of more than 45 minutes is painful, and bench seats are torture. Wish I had some padding...
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Old 11-20-2011, 01:45 PM   #265
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At 80 or so lbs (in high school, when I had an eating disorder) I was a bag of bones with saddlebags, so I guess to some degree we really are stuck with our shapes. I can say that with age and exercise, though, my shape has changed....

And the hhcg has done A LOT for evening my fat distribution -- it's much more even now, and I am not nearly so bottom heavy. We may not be able to get to perfection, but some change is possible.

In this moment, I am happy with the progress of the last year -- it has been long and frustrating, but I also think it has been worth it. When I hit goal, I think I can make the final declaration on that.

Tomorrow I launch back into another hard-core attempt at losing ... TOM is almost over so I have no excuses.....
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WOW @mini I was wondering if I should post, and there was your post about horses! I currently compete and am immersed in the horse world. It can be really crazy, and really rewarding. Thanks for sharing. Us horse people....

Just wanted to say Hi! and check in this week because I'm trying a new fat fast/VLC alternating this week. I head to Mexico on Saturday, and want to be able to eat flexibly (will be with future in-laws... at a resort.... not too much room to be a picky eater!)

So good morning everyone, and hope you all are having a lovely Sunday. Thanks for being here as inspiration and support.

Today was high fat breakfast.... going to eat again this afternoon and go to a function tonight where I'll have to say "no!" which is always a bit awkward. This HCG process has been a great practice in re-claiming my own right to choose what I eat. Rather than feeling like I just have to eat what I "should" given the event, moment, community, etc.

Question-- do I have to have several VLC days in a row before getting off the drops? I'm just playing with my weight for vanity at this point (experimenting!), with about 5 pounds. I'm about 6 ft so 5 pounds isn't much to anyone except me (I can tell in my abs and legs especially)

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I'm sure they are - even at 232 pounds I didn't really have them, just thicker thighs/butt. BUT, I do have the "Howard" pooch. That's what we nicknamed our lower bellies and my mother & her aunties all had it - so do most of my sisters, except my twin who has a different body type. Even the 95 pound aunties didn't have flat bellies.

To be honest, I'm pretty happy that right now when I take a bath, my stomach can actually get covered 100% by water. Hadn't had that happen since before I had kids. Little victories...

And as for my saddle area...it's woefully lacking. Now a drive of more than 45 minutes is painful, and bench seats are torture. Wish I had some padding...
The only thing I can say about genetics is

I do not have friendly genes. As a matter of fat my mother and I have the same exact shape except that i am smaller. I really don't want to be on HCG for repeat rounds however, if I truly want to lean out I will need to lose another 25 pounds and I can't do that in one round and weight train. Oh well. It is a journey.

Paula, congrats on small victories They keep us going. Melonie loves her fat pouch. She uses it for comfort and says it's her fluffy pillow

Are saddlebags the butt area? If so, oops, I have good ones. It's the waist area that's my nemesis. The stomach and the waist otherwise I would be shaped rather nicely. Besides situps, anyone have any remedies for the stomach area? I don't think trying to suck all the air out through my belly button will truly work Paula, has your Howard pouch ever gotten smaller? I think that is the last to go. Dang it.
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I have to say that squats and deadlifts have never given me a stellar butt!
I wish they did.

But then neither has any of the other kind of exercises I have done-
biking , running, aerobics, callan, t-tapp etc etc..

None of these things has affected my saddlebags and cellulite one whit! .. as far as I can tell...
Has the HCG had any positive affect on those areas and cellulite?
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I'm with you getting into those skinny jeans by December 1st Mini! I need to be 106ish to fit in my so I have about 6 pounds. Besides thanksgiving day I'm going at this 110%. My head is totally in this right now so I'm going to take it for what it is. I just hope thanksgiving doesn't set me back too far.

Today has been relatively easy as Dh is gone so it's just me and DS. I had a late lunch so I'll have some tea and cream and possibly some chicken ande done for the day. Hoping for another drop tomorrow
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Hi everyone! I made it to my 1st goal of 190! I'm at 190.3 after my 2 vlcd's w/o drops. My slight increase a couple days ago were TOM related. It kicked my a$$ yesterday.
I'm doing a "gonna take it slow" P3 and once I get stabilized, I'll "diet" on my own til January. I'll go back to hHCG then.
I haven't told my family yet. My husband will say "oh, you can eat NORMAL" now!" His famous words! So keeping this to myself for now.
That is wonderful. Yes, lol, keep that to yourself or your husband will have you cooking all kinds of good foods. His mouth will be drooling, waiting at the kitchen table with a folk in his hand and a plate in front of him. Enjoy your Thanksgiving. Do some exercise and this will help keep the weight off.
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