Hcg Rogues and Alternatives, week of 10/7

[minimonkey]

It's that time again... a new week!

[minimonkey]

Rock on Hexa with the nice drop! (posted on the older thread)

I am about to face the scale myself ...

[minimonkey]

Argh -- I am up a full pound today I actually had a feeling I might be up -- feeling bloated and overdue for a good visit from Bernice. Still grumpy making, particularly since I was a paragon of rogue p2 virtue yesterday.

I have to learn not to stress these ups and downs and stalls -- they happen -- and I know that eventually that will drop off and then some.

I will keep doing this round as is for at least another week, but if that doesn't get the scale moving down, I am going to change course... looking over my numbers from the past couple of weeks, this has just been bouncing up and down the same few pounds... and I am really ready to move past that.

If I need to go strict protocol for a while, so be it. At this rate, all I am doing is basically maintaining on 1000 calories, and I do hope that isn't a long term pattern ....

[paulabob]

Subbing in..

[catjrow3]

Marking my spot!!

[minimonkey]

I think I am going to try to keep to 500 calories a day for a few days, and see if I can break this stall. I just had breakfast (apple bake, and a protein shake) and will see if I can keep it to just tea and other no cal or very low cal liquids for the rest of the day.

I'm not relishing the idea much, but I am committed to finishing what I started here.

[catjrow3]

I was up 0.4 (UGH) this morning for no apparent reason... boo! Hopefully it will be gone with extra tomorrow!!

Sorry you were up this morning too minimo... I slept for crap, maybe that was part of it too....

[dazygyrl]

(pssst...mini, it's november now. )

sorry about your gains, ladies. don't let them derail you.

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

(pssst...mini, it's november now. )

sorry about your gains, ladies. don't let them derail you.

Nope, gonna have to hang tough... at least 2 more weeks... 11/21 countdown!

Yes Minimo...noticed the 10/7 instead of 11/7 on the title of the thread!!

[minimonkey]

Oops! I wonder if I can edit that... I think the mods have to do it.... anyone know how to fix a thread title? I should never do anything permanent before 7 in the morning...ever!

I will not be derailed by this silly gain.... I will not.

[Daisy2]

Good morning in P2 day 27, Decided to try a Fat Fast Sunday.

It was difficult for me as eating no proteins and veggies is a real stretch for me. I did a 92% fat 1080 calorie day.

Did well and broke through a troublesome set point and lost -1.8 lbs
Has anybody else done a fat fast? Looking for more info but have not seen much in the way of info out there.

Have a great Monday.

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by catjrow3

I was up 0.4 (UGH) this morning for no apparent reason... boo! Hopefully it will be gone with extra tomorrow!!

Sorry you were up this morning too minimo... I slept for crap, maybe that was part of it too....

Editting this to say, actually, stayed the same!! No gain or loss!

[ChaseMama]

Good morning ladies! I am sure we will all see a nice drop tomorrow - Mondays and scales are a bad combo.

I am stalled out since Friday. I got a little more Rogue-ish this week and upped my fat intake. So I am telling myself that I will see a nice big drop tomorrow.

I took my son on a 2 hr hike yesterday. He just turned 7 and I figured he would hate it and we would only be gone for 30 min. He loved it and just wanted to keep going - so we did. It was great!! My little hikin' buddy!

[CherylB]

Originally Posted by minimonkey

particularly since I was a paragon of rogue p2 virtue yesterday.

Well, that ought to count for something! (Yes; I think the Mods need to correct the title of the thread. I've been bitten by the too early in the morning to be posting bug before, too.) Sorry you had a bump up.

Originally Posted by ChaseMama

Good morning ladies! I am sure we will all see a nice drop tomorrow - Mondays and scales are a bad combo.

I am stalled out since Friday. I got a little more Rogue-ish this week and upped my fat intake. So I am telling myself that I will see a nice big drop tomorrow.

I took my son on a 2 hr hike yesterday. He just turned 7 and I figured he would hate it and we would only be gone for 30 min. He loved it and just wanted to keep going - so we did. It was great!! My little hikin' buddy!

Cool! So glad he loves hiking with you. That's perfect! Hiking in AZ this time of year is the perfect time.

Originally Posted by Daisy2

Good morning in P2 day 27, Decided to try a Fat Fast Sunday.

It was difficult for me as eating no proteins and veggies is a real stretch for me. I did a 92% fat 1080 calorie day.

Did well and broke through a troublesome set point and lost -1.8 lbs
Has anybody else done a fat fast? Looking for more info but have not seen much in the way of info out there.

Have a great Monday.

Mini does fat fasts so she'd be the one to answer this for you. So how much have you lost on Day 27 of the plan? Is this your first round? Nice to have another Daisy around.

[tay65]

I am UP A FULL POUND out of my window. So doing a CD today. Steak it is!
I'm not feeling well today. Maybe its eating things I haven't had in a while. I've never eaten much fat. I'm one of the fat free dieters. I just want to sleep.
Have a nice day everyone!

[eko42]

Subscribing!

[CherylB]

Tammy, sorry you are up 3 lbs today. I found it very helpful to go lightly into P3. I know I suggested this before but it bears repeating. It took me over a week to build up my calories and fats and still I avoided tons of fat like butter. If I could get by with the zero cal butter spray, I used that. It makes sense to keep calories and fat moderate. I know everyone says to eat to your maximum (calories for your size, age, etc) but I don't see the balance in that.

All I know is that I did great in my P3 and I hate to see others struggling in theirs. Enjoy your steak and chew on that info for future reference.

[MaryMouse49]

Hello everyone I need some advice, I have been well p2/p2 since may only down 20 pounds total, not *****ing as I went on vacation, then had company, ok so now no excuses, I just cannot do the strict protocol anymore. I end up adding protein or veggies and feeling guilty, I would like to up it, but not sure how much, I would like to add popcorn instead of the grissini, skip a fruit, or? I guess sorta like the owl plan. I have not worked out as of yet, I am to concerned that if I start I will have to jog daily to keep my weight maintained. I need to lose 27 more pounds, any suggestions, I have the intermountain drops. Thanks Mary

[CherylB]

I'm slowing down my eating and stopped the all-out frenzy I was in for a week or more and today I'm down a few! I think it's 3.4! So, that was some of the water I was retaining. I'm sure I still have more water on board since I'm not limiting sodium at the moment. I'll see where I land in a few days.

[CherylB]

Originally Posted by MaryMouse49

Hello everyone I need some advice, I have been well p2/p2 since may only down 20 pounds total, not *****ing as I went on vacation, then had company, ok so now no excuses, I just cannot do the strict protocol anymore. I end up adding protein or veggies and feeling guilty, I would like to up it, but not sure how much, I would like to add popcorn instead of the grissini, skip a fruit, or? I guess sorta like the owl plan. I have not worked out as of yet, I am to concerned that if I start I will have to jog daily to keep my weight maintained. I need to lose 27 more pounds, any suggestions, I have the intermountain drops. Thanks Mary

Can you give us a typical day's menu with calories and all ingredients? (Like condiments, etc.) That will help us help you. I have eaten the popcorn all along and did fine with it. I don't think it matters if you eat the fruit but I enjoyed it.

[MaryMouse49]

ok if I can remember, I usually write it down but.... sunday coffee am, with purevia, and 2 T ff and sugarfree creamer. snack I small organic apple, lunch 3 cheese sticks, 80 calories each, 1 cup broccoli slaw with 2 T tzaziki sauce, 40 calories for sauce,, dinner 4 ounces backed chicken thighs, 1/2 cup cooked onions, 3/4 cup strawberries and 1/4 cup cranberries, frozen to make slushie added 3 purvias and some crystal lemonade, drank 96 ounces of water.

[MaryMouse49]

by the way I lost 5 ounces this am

[LoriSax]

Hi All, I did HCG earlier this year, I have been done with strict protocol for about 2-3 months. I am starting to slack, and I think I am going to do another round to get back on track, and maybe take off another 10. Today would be my first loading day. I do not want to do Simeon's strict protocol this time, I thought maybe I would try the OWL diet this time. It says no dairy on there, but is there anything I can buy to put in my coffee if I like milk in my coffee?? Right now I use Soy Slender, which has very few carbs in it. Do you do the 3 week, no sugar, no starch with this plan also?? Thanks for the tips.
Lori

[dazygyrl]

i use up to a 1/4c of regular HH everyday!

[Daisy2]

Originally Posted by CherylB

Well, that ought to count for something! (Yes; I think the Mods need to correct the title of the thread. I've been bitten by the too early in the morning to be posting bug before, too.) Sorry you had a bump up.



Cool! So glad he loves hiking with you. That's perfect! Hiking in AZ this time of year is the perfect time.



Mini does fat fasts so she'd be the one to answer this for you. So how much have you lost on Day 27 of the plan? Is this your first round? Nice to have another Daisy around.

This is Round 2 VLCD27 lost -1.8 lbs . I hope it sticks
First Fat Fast. Got spoiled yesterday having Coffee with cream, but I'm
back to VLCD no fat protocol.
Have had problems this round with stagnant losses, a 10 day stall ,even gains with clean eating. Very happy to have busted through a set point today. Which was 155 lbs (pre-pregnancy weight). That was my same weight after I had my son too...so it is a troublesome number.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by Daisy2

Very happy to have busted through a set point today. Which was 155 lbs (pre-pregnancy weight).

Congrats, I know that must feel great!

I am in sympathy with all the gainers. I do expect some weekend gain since I do both days as Up Days on JUDDD, but was surprised with 2.6 this morning. Today is my down day, so hoping it all comes off today. I peeked at the scale this afternoon...and I think (hope) I'll be pleasantly surprised tomorrow morning.

[pugswin]

Hi All,

AGGHHH this Monday is sucking. Can't wake up. I hate daylight savings time, another reason to move to Arizona!

Anyway I was 198.5, up .5 from yesterday but up 2.0 from Saturday . I have been STARVING and craving sugar, carbs, sugar, carbs and bacon. I had a waffle for breakfast yesterday (it reall didn't taste good, but I was so tired of depriving myself).

I can now see why a 21 day plan is a good idea... but I'm determined to keep at this until 11/18..

I'm going to order pellets today since my bottle of drops is almost gone and I don't want to open another one for just a few more days.

Keep on going ladies: if I can't do it, maybe you should!

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by pugswin

Anyway I was 198.5, up .5 from yesterday but up 2.0 from Saturday . I have been STARVING and craving sugar, carbs, sugar, carbs and bacon. I had a waffle for breakfast yesterday (it reall didn't taste good, but I was so tired of depriving myself).

I can now see why a 21 day plan is a good idea... but I'm determined to keep at this until 11/18..

I have no solutions, but sending you some virtual hugs.

The plan really is HARD, and gets harder as the weeks go by. My first round was 35 days, and after that, I said never again, and stuck to short rounds. And of course, now I only go one day at a time, then Up day on the JUDDD plan right now. Committing is hard... Usually by the third week of protocol I'm pretty sure I was partly insane...couldn't type right, short tempered, a real lot of fun for my family to live with.

[star a.d.]

marking a spot...hi everyone! p2 day 1 tomorrow. hopefully I won't be at work for it...

[HexaTheAmazon]

Originally Posted by minimonkey

I think I am going to try to keep to 500 calories a day for a few days, and see if I can break this stall. I just had breakfast (apple bake, and a protein shake) and will see if I can keep it to just tea and other no cal or very low cal liquids for the rest of the day.

I'm not relishing the idea much, but I am committed to finishing what I started here.

Thanks!! I think going on strict protocol for a few days will break your stall. I hate stalls and can be discouraging but, I know that you can break it. I went to the gym today and did weight training and cardio. Sheesh, I was really tired. I sure hope I can maintain P2 and weight training. I am just beginning to see results. I hope I don't have to make a choice

By the way, has anyone eaten grilled tofu on this protocol. I had some today and I loved it. What about FF sundried tomatoe dressing? Any thoughts. Thanks!!!