For those struggling in P3 with maintaining... - Page 5

TerriMM · 12-15-2011, 10:21 PM

Thanks Mini! I've long been inspired by you. Have you been able to get back to working out? I've had to cool it for so long I'm having a little trouble finding where I left my motivation. My new focus.

minimonkey · 12-15-2011, 10:28 PM

I'm going to be restarting workouts as soon as my roommate and I get over the flu that we both have right now-- ugh! The plan was to start this week, but we got derailed by getting sick.

I'm really looking forward to getting back in the gym! I am almost at my goal weight again, and am going to have to balance how to maintain while also fueling the workouts, but I am certain I can do it this time... and no more wacky experiments for me

I've set a lower goal weight for myself this time to allow some room for muscle building, though I am going to try to get stable at goal first -- the initial workouts won't be lifting intensive, so it should be fine I think. It'll be much easier to stay lean while working out than it was to try to get lean again while doing it ... so, lesson learned on that front!

paulabob · 12-16-2011, 05:01 AM

Teri, are you doing the big breakfasts? I've taken a break to stabilize and think the big breakfasts are helping, even though it feels unnatural.

TerriMM · 12-16-2011, 05:21 AM

I do have a good size breakfast but probably not as big as this plan calls. It does set a whole different tone to the day.

Hope you feel better Mini. There has really been some tasties going around this year.

agentventi · 12-16-2011, 05:56 AM

mini-are you doing P2 at 500 calories or higher since you do not have much to lose? I keep thinking about doing a 2nd round even though I am very near where I want to be as far as weight, I still have fat that I want to reshape. Not sure if it is worth going back to the 500 calorie hell or do an 800 calorie HCG round OR if I should just start Chalean Extreme again. I can NOT make up my mind! Being short sucks and I am afraid when I do gain 2lbs everyone can tell

lipid1 · 12-19-2011, 01:36 PM

I've enjoyed reading this thread and have learnt a lot, thank you all.

After doing P4 how long do you have to wait before beginning at Phase 1 again (I think I read we are to have a 6 week break)?

shelbyla · 12-19-2011, 01:44 PM

3 weeks of P3 (no sugars, no starches) and 3 weeks of P4 (slowly adding back in complex carbs) after a round. If you are doing rx, Simeons suggests increasing the amount of P4 time for subsequent rounds. HTH

misslatte · 01-03-2012, 07:35 AM

bump!

Maiasaura · 03-28-2012, 11:43 AM

Is anyone still here? I don't have time to post right now, but I am having MAJOR issues and would love some dialogue. Plus that recipe for how to make cream for coffee out of coconut milk-- was that on this forum or another one?

Nicole T · 03-28-2012, 12:32 PM

I'm the one who makes the coconut cream for my coffee and I LOVE it! Here's how I do it...take 1 can of full-fat coconut milk and stick it in the fridge at least 30 min before you make it.
I use my mini food processor but you can also use a blender. Put in 1 egg, a teaspoon of vanilla and the solid top part of the canned coconut milk (not the liquid part). Blend that together. Once that's blended, I SLOWLY drip in 2 Tablespoons of melted coconut oil (but make sure it's not HOT or it will curdle the mixture--when this happens, I still use the cream but it doesn't look as pretty as when it doesn't happen

Once all the oil is incorporated, stick the mixture in a tupperware container and put it in the fridge. In about 2 hours it should look like regular whipped cream. I should say that I have more "fails" when I use my blender as opposed to my mini food processor--that gives me perfect "cream" every time!

Maiasaura · 03-28-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicole T

I'm the one who makes the coconut cream for my coffee and I LOVE it! Here's how I do it...take 1 can of full-fat coconut milk and stick it in the fridge at least 30 min before you make it.
I use my mini food processor but you can also use a blender. Put in 1 egg, a teaspoon of vanilla and the solid top part of the canned coconut milk (not the liquid part). Blend that together. Once that's blended, I SLOWLY drip in 2 Tablespoons of melted coconut oil (but make sure it's not HOT or it will curdle the mixture--when this happens, I still use the cream but it doesn't look as pretty as when it doesn't happen

Once all the oil is incorporated, stick the mixture in a tupperware container and put it in the fridge. In about 2 hours it should look like regular whipped cream. I should say that I have more "fails" when I use my blender as opposed to my mini food processor--that gives me perfect "cream" every time!

But...OK, I only have a blender, a mixer, and a hand-blender (stick kind). I'm getting ready to go back into P2 again this weekend

so I don't keep gaining 1/2lb a day while trying to figure out why I don't stabilize

Thanks! I am afraid I may be sensitive to both eggs and dairy, now, though...sigh. I don't know WTH to do.

So...you are saying this is good in coffee?? Does it make the coffee nice and light? I'm weird picky that way, with coffee...it has to be just exactly the right color.

Nicole T · 03-28-2012, 04:17 PM

I had the same exact problem my first P3 until I figured out it was partly dairy causing my gains. I switched to the Leptin protocol and immediately lost the 3 lbs I had been gaining! Do a google for Leptin and Dr Jack Kruse--the results were amazing and all I really had to do was eat a HUGE breakfast within 30 min of waking and no snacks between meals and the weight I put on in P3 came right off and I stabilized where I stopped P2!

And yes, I find I need even less of the coconut cream in my coffee than when I use half and half.

Maiasaura · 03-28-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicole T

I had the same exact problem my first P3 until I figured out it was partly dairy causing my gains. I switched to the Leptin protocol and immediately lost the 3 lbs I had been gaining! Do a google for Leptin and Dr Jack Kruse--the results were amazing and all I really had to do was eat a HUGE breakfast within 30 min of waking and no snacks between meals and the weight I put on in P3 came right off and I stabilized where I stopped P2!

And yes, I find I need even less of the coconut cream in my coffee than when I use half and half.

Thanks, Nicole. I started my last P3 on Feb10 and stabilized, sort of, for about a week, then gained and gained and gained. Someone-- I thought it was this forum but maybe a different one-- suggested it might be eggs, so last week I cut them out and lost 3lb immediately, so I was getting some hope. Then Friday I started gaining again. Without eggs. In 5 days I have gained 4lb. On Feb10 I weighed 142.2. Today I was 154.6

I am so freaking sad and frustrated and stumped and...and...and...I mean, I am pretty much down to meat, poultry, fishes, and cream. Very little veggies. Now I'm afraid it's the cream

I have checked out Kruse's site, a little bit. I have lots of books on hold coming to me at the library, all involving leptin. I'm really skeptical of his "cure" though, as I've read plenty of people gain weight from that, too! I just know I will be one of them

I don't want to be fat anymore. I REALLY don't want to be fat anymore. I used to be up around 185-- I think I topped out around 203-- and I'm only 5'1", barely. 154.6 is still way too heavy for me, though I can handle it a lot better than 185!

I may try it. I am going back into P2 this weekend, though, because I can't afford to gain any more before I try the leptin thing. I have 3-4 weeks to get this 12lb off, plus whatever more I can, then I may try the leptin reset. This will be my 4th (I think) round.

Opinion please, though-- do you think I can wait a week and do regular P3 before I dive into Leptin/P3? Because I am going to be out of town for a week in my first week of P3. It's hard enough sticking to P3 in this particular situation, let alone the BAB and all the rest. But I will try to if I have to!

Thanks!

Nicole T · 03-29-2012, 06:22 AM

All I can tell you is that I was having the SAME EXACT problem as you for the first 2 week of P3 and Leptin fixed it immediately! I was on another board with other Leptin people and I have to say that I don't remember one person saying they gained when starting it (I'm sure they're out there but I don't think they are the norm). You have to give it at least a week since your body will be in flux and likely confused--I'd almost say to start it and not weigh for at least 5 days and just focus on the tenants of the plan.

Maiasaura · 03-29-2012, 06:42 AM

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I'd almost say to start it and not weigh for at least 5 days and just focus on the tenants of the plan.

Alright-- like I said, though, the only problem being that I am going to likely be out of town. My man lives 800+ miles away and he eats horribly. I'm lucky to be able to be in P3 at all when I am there! Last time I got lucky and was able to bring my own hot dogs and bacon on the flight-- I don't know how that got past the TSA as I tried to bring sealed cans of lima beans in my carry-on one time, and they took those. And a casserole from the little old lady behind me.

So what I was thinking is going into P3 and then, one week later, when I get home, starting the leptin reset. Because I don't think I'll be able to not eat eggs for my BAB when I am there at my boyfriend's...or maybe I can, I dunno-- if I find something for the crock pot, I can eat meat, I guess. He does have a crock pot. Only uses it when I am there, though!

And no way I can make your coconut coffee creamer while there. He lives in a 10x12 studio with a two-burner stove and a dorm fridge. We do plenty of coffee and I'd have to maybe drink it black, or have tea instead <gasp!>, or use cream anyway. I dunno. It's weeks away. Maybe y'all can help me brainstorm in the meanwhile?

Maiasaura · 03-29-2012, 06:43 AM

Oh yeah-- did you stay on the Leptin Reset after that? I mean continually? Are you still doing it, or did you add stuff back in? How long after did you add things, and did it impact? If so, what did you do to correct it?

Nicole T · 03-29-2012, 07:10 AM

I would just do P3 until you get back but cut out all dairy--including cream. If he has a blender, you should be able to make the coconut creamer--I even brought my mini-food processor in my suitcase with me when I went to FL so I could make it

And you are allowed to bring solid food items on the plane--just not liquids (hence why you're lima beans were taken from you). You can definitely pack bacon, hot dogs etc and take it with you.

I am not currently on Leptin--life got crazy in the mornings--but I still follow his no snacking between meals and eat a pretty big breakfast--just not usually within 30 min of waking. I stabilized great and can now even have occasional treats with no gains. I am doing one more round of hcg now to try to get back down to my goal weight and NOT mess up P3 now that I know how to do it. Last time I had a few drinks 2 days into P3 and it made me gain 4 lbs and I could never lose it after that.

Maiasaura · 03-29-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicole T

I would just do P3 until you get back but cut out all dairy--including cream. If he has a blender, you should be able to make the coconut creamer

I do have a stick blender. Hmm. Thinking, thinking....think they'd let me have it on the plane? Not think it's a weapon? They're so nuts anymore. I could buy coconut milk once I'm up there. And coconut oil. But...what if I really am sensitive to eggs, too? Can you do it w/o the egg? If no, I wonder what to use instead...hmm. Flax maybe?

Nicole T · 03-29-2012, 01:51 PM

If you're checking luggage you could definitely pack the stick blender--like I said, I packed my mini food processor with it's VERY sharp blade

Not sure about not using the egg--I guess you could try a flax replacer and see. Let us know if you try it!

Maiasaura · 03-29-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicole T

If you're checking luggage you could definitely pack the stick blender--like I said, I packed my mini food processor with it's VERY sharp blade

Not sure about not using the egg--I guess you could try a flax replacer and see. Let us know if you try it!

I won't be checking luggage. I only use carry-ons. But I will put it in the small suitcase and not in my backpack!

What does the egg do in your concoction? Just make it thicker? I wonder what it would do without egg OR replacer? Hmmm....

Nicole T · 03-29-2012, 05:14 PM

I'm guessing it's an emulsifier like in mayo but I could be wrong. I don't think it would taste bad without it...it just wouldn't be as thick and probably wouldn't "set up" like whipped cream.

Maiasaura · 03-30-2012, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicole T

I'm guessing it's an emulsifier like in mayo but I could be wrong. I don't think it would taste bad without it...it just wouldn't be as thick and probably wouldn't "set up" like whipped cream.

Well, but it wouldn't have to be like *whipped* cream, for me-- just cream. As long as it works in coffee like cream or half and half, I'd be good with that. I need my coffee a certain "lightness"

icecreamjunkie · 04-17-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Maiasaura

Well, but it wouldn't have to be like *whipped* cream, for me-- just cream. As long as it works in coffee like cream or half and half, I'd be good with that. I need my coffee a certain "lightness"

If you are still in need of a "creamer" sub...just a thought...I've started using BUTTER in my coffee! I use 2-4 tbs...depending on the size of my cup! Found the idea while scanning paleo sites. Now, i know it sounds vile...but i tried it w/ some stevia and am now hooked. Not sure how i'm going to make it through a 43 day round that VLCD starts tomorrow! I'm excited for the weight loss...but will miss my butter coffee! I used a LOT of HWC and this really does the trick for me! sometime i will whip in some coconut butter too if i want it really indulgent!
Good luck!!!

Maiasaura · 04-17-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by icecreamjunkie

If you are still in need of a "creamer" sub...just a thought...I've started using BUTTER in my coffee! I use 2-4 tbs...depending on the size of my cup! Found the idea while scanning paleo sites. Now, i know it sounds vile...but i tried it w/ some stevia and am now hooked. Not sure how i'm going to make it through a 43 day round that VLCD starts tomorrow! I'm excited for the weight loss...but will miss my butter coffee! I used a LOT of HWC and this really does the trick for me! sometime i will whip in some coconut butter too if i want it really indulgent!
Good luck!!!

I have found that recipe, too-- Bulletproof coffee

I'm still gaining and gaining, though

I found this site called SugarFree Goodies, and it looks really, really promising-- but she totally debunks HCG (even homeopathic), which is fine; I am inclined to believe her. She cites very credible sources. Plus I have had worse and worse luck with hHCG anyway-- reached immunity, it doesn't work anymore, I am constantly hungry and miserable, don't lose much anymore...I gave up this last round after just a week and won't likely do it again for a looooong time, if ever.

But she (the owner of the site) won't disclose who she is-- no last name, no credentials, won't say where she lives, and she won't put out her specific "protocol"-- only partially, but she will help you personally, with phone calls and micromanagement of your diet and blood sugars-- for $400 plus lab tests and food and scale!!
Which, IMO, is outrageous...Actually I am that desperate that I would deplete my savings if I knew she was right, and I highly suspect that she is-- but I will NOT fork over that kind of money to someone who won't even divulge her last name so I can google and check around to see if she's legit.

I dunno what to do

I have packed on 5lb in the last week! And I'm eating next to no carb, using BP coffee, not eating at night, drinking water. I'm not giving up, but I have to say, I am bloody tired of thinking about weight. I am tired of dreading mornings getting on the scale. I'm really, really scared of being 185 again before midsummer

icecreamjunkie · 04-17-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Maiasaura

I have found that recipe, too-- Bulletproof coffee

I'm still gaining and gaining, though

I found this site called SugarFree Goodies, and it looks really, really promising-- but she totally debunks HCG (even homeopathic), which is fine; I am inclined to believe her. She cites very credible sources. Plus I have had worse and worse luck with hHCG anyway-- reached immunity, it doesn't work anymore, I am constantly hungry and miserable, don't lose much anymore...I gave up this last round after just a week and won't likely do it again for a looooong time, if ever.

But she (the owner of the site) won't disclose who she is-- no last name, no credentials, won't say where she lives, and she won't put out her specific "protocol"-- only partially, but she will help you personally, with phone calls and micromanagement of your diet and blood sugars-- for $400 plus lab tests and food and scale!!
Which, IMO, is outrageous...Actually I am that desperate that I would deplete my savings if I knew she was right, and I highly suspect that she is-- but I will NOT fork over that kind of money to someone who won't even divulge her last name so I can google and check around to see if she's legit.

I dunno what to do

I have packed on 5lb in the last week! And I'm eating next to no carb, using BP coffee, not eating at night, drinking water. I'm not giving up, but I have to say, I am bloody tired of thinking about weight. I am tired of dreading mornings getting on the scale. I'm really, really scared of being 185 again before midsummer

oh yeah, i would be a bit leery of that as well...if she were legit...why not disclose who she is

I wish you the best of luck! I know it can be beyond discouraging! Don't give up the fight though!!!

Maiasaura · 04-17-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by icecreamjunkie

oh yeah, i would be a bit leery of that as well...if she were legit...why not disclose who she is

I wish you the best of luck! I know it can be beyond discouraging! Don't give up the fight though!!!

Yeah, I know. And I was so excited because I posted my woes, and she said "Look for a private email from me"-- and then I talked to her TWICE on the phone, and only on the 2nd call did she disclose her price. Um, no-- not till you disclose who you are.
Then I realized that she posts that to everybody, the "look for a private email" thing. That's a buttload of money.

TerriMM · 04-17-2012, 02:56 PM

Have you tried Fat Fast? I couldn't lose on next to nothing low carb, lost on HCG, but was having trouble losing more and maintaining. I seem to be able to lose on Fat Fast on P2 or P3. Also on P3 you might try balancing fat and protein grams to maintain. This has worked really well for a lot of us. I usually do a little better with my fat being a little higher than my protein.

Maiasaura · 04-17-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TerriMM

Have you tried Fat Fast? I couldn't lose on next to nothing low carb, lost on HCG, but was having trouble losing more and maintaining. I seem to be able to lose on Fat Fast on P2 or P3. Also on P3 you might try balancing fat and protein grams to maintain. This has worked really well for a lot of us. I usually do a little better with my fat being a little higher than my protein.

No-- I have heard of it but not really clear on what it entails. I do eat a LOT of fat. I have bulletproof coffee a couple times a day, some days!

TerriMM · 04-17-2012, 04:33 PM

Check out this thread, you have to follow the rules pretty closely for it to work:
**FAT FASTER'S THREAD**

deanajane · 01-17-2013, 04:09 PM

I know this is an old thread but is there by chance anyone's around who still reads this?

I'm having the same problem with P3, i can not stabilize my weight at all. I've done more correction days that i care to think about. I'm getting angrier and angrier and just about ready to skip and go back to P2 even though I know I'm not supposed to.

I'm at the end of week 3 in P3 and i'm up 3.2 lbs. My correction days have been eggs. I know that could be the problem, but i don't like skin on checken, i can't stand the thought of eating a raw egg for proein shakes, and i've never cared for steak. I ate chicken breast and very lean hamburger for P2 and that was it for my protein.

So my real question is I though about trying the Leptin reset BUT i have a hypo thryroid and have to take my medication first thing in the morning with a full glass of water. No food allowed for an hour. Any ideas what I could do?

Thanks
Deana

PS I have not cheated, no starch and no sugar.

12-15-2011, 10:28 PM	#122
minimonkey Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,029 Gallery: minimonkey Stats: 5'0" -- very small frame WOE: Clean eating, whole foods	I'm going to be restarting workouts as soon as my roommate and I get over the flu that we both have right now-- ugh! The plan was to start this week, but we got derailed by getting sick. I'm really looking forward to getting back in the gym! I am almost at my goal weight again, and am going to have to balance how to maintain while also fueling the workouts, but I am certain I can do it this time... and no more wacky experiments for me I've set a lower goal weight for myself this time to allow some room for muscle building, though I am going to try to get stable at goal first -- the initial workouts won't be lifting intensive, so it should be fine I think. It'll be much easier to stay lean while working out than it was to try to get lean again while doing it ... so, lesson learned on that front! __________________ Rogue p2 cycling: 8/28:128.6 .... 10/7 118.4 ....10/20: 115.8

12-16-2011, 05:56 AM	#125
agentventi Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 183 Gallery: agentventi WOE: Paleo	mini-are you doing P2 at 500 calories or higher since you do not have much to lose? I keep thinking about doing a 2nd round even though I am very near where I want to be as far as weight, I still have fat that I want to reshape. Not sure if it is worth going back to the 500 calorie hell or do an 800 calorie HCG round OR if I should just start Chalean Extreme again. I can NOT make up my mind! Being short sucks and I am afraid when I do gain 2lbs everyone can tell __________________ R3 P3 Goal:To maintain! 5 feet tall

03-28-2012, 12:32 PM	#130
Nicole T Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 979 Gallery: Nicole T Stats: 192/179/170 WOE: 5:2/Paleo Start Date: 4/22/13	I'm the one who makes the coconut cream for my coffee and I LOVE it! Here's how I do it...take 1 can of full-fat coconut milk and stick it in the fridge at least 30 min before you make it. I use my mini food processor but you can also use a blender. Put in 1 egg, a teaspoon of vanilla and the solid top part of the canned coconut milk (not the liquid part). Blend that together. Once that's blended, I SLOWLY drip in 2 Tablespoons of melted coconut oil (but make sure it's not HOT or it will curdle the mixture--when this happens, I still use the cream but it doesn't look as pretty as when it doesn't happen Once all the oil is incorporated, stick the mixture in a tupperware container and put it in the fridge. In about 2 hours it should look like regular whipped cream. I should say that I have more "fails" when I use my blender as opposed to my mini food processor--that gives me perfect "cream" every time! __________________ Nicole in beautiful Annapolis, MD Only weighing-in once a week on Mondays

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12-15-2011, 10:21 PM	#121
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,408 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Thanks Mini! I've long been inspired by you. Have you been able to get back to working out? I've had to cool it for so long I'm having a little trouble finding where I left my motivation. My new focus.

12-16-2011, 05:01 AM	#123
paulabob Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 6,545 Gallery: paulabob Stats: 204/124.6/110 49%/27.4%/20% 5'2" WOE: Atkins/hHcg/Optimal whatever works Start Date: restart March '10	Teri, are you doing the big breakfasts? I've taken a break to stabilize and think the big breakfasts are helping, even though it feels unnatural.

12-16-2011, 05:21 AM	#124
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,408 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	I do have a good size breakfast but probably not as big as this plan calls. It does set a whole different tone to the day. Hope you feel better Mini. There has really been some tasties going around this year.

12-19-2011, 01:36 PM	#126
lipid1 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3 Gallery: lipid1 Stats: 255/246/155 WOE: Atkins	I've enjoyed reading this thread and have learnt a lot, thank you all. After doing P4 how long do you have to wait before beginning at Phase 1 again (I think I read we are to have a 6 week break)?

12-19-2011, 01:44 PM	#127
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	3 weeks of P3 (no sugars, no starches) and 3 weeks of P4 (slowly adding back in complex carbs) after a round. If you are doing rx, Simeons suggests increasing the amount of P4 time for subsequent rounds. HTH

01-03-2012, 07:35 AM	#128
misslatte Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,837 Gallery: misslatte Stats: 5'11" - 260/~175	bump!

03-28-2012, 11:43 AM	#129
Maiasaura Junior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14 Gallery: Maiasaura	Is anyone still here? I don't have time to post right now, but I am having MAJOR issues and would love some dialogue. Plus that recipe for how to make cream for coffee out of coconut milk-- was that on this forum or another one?

03-28-2012, 04:17 PM	#132
Nicole T Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 979 Gallery: Nicole T Stats: 192/179/170 WOE: 5:2/Paleo Start Date: 4/22/13	I had the same exact problem my first P3 until I figured out it was partly dairy causing my gains. I switched to the Leptin protocol and immediately lost the 3 lbs I had been gaining! Do a google for Leptin and Dr Jack Kruse--the results were amazing and all I really had to do was eat a HUGE breakfast within 30 min of waking and no snacks between meals and the weight I put on in P3 came right off and I stabilized where I stopped P2! And yes, I find I need even less of the coconut cream in my coffee than when I use half and half.

03-29-2012, 06:22 AM	#134
Nicole T Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 979 Gallery: Nicole T Stats: 192/179/170 WOE: 5:2/Paleo Start Date: 4/22/13	All I can tell you is that I was having the SAME EXACT problem as you for the first 2 week of P3 and Leptin fixed it immediately! I was on another board with other Leptin people and I have to say that I don't remember one person saying they gained when starting it (I'm sure they're out there but I don't think they are the norm). You have to give it at least a week since your body will be in flux and likely confused--I'd almost say to start it and not weigh for at least 5 days and just focus on the tenants of the plan.

03-29-2012, 06:43 AM	#136
Maiasaura Junior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14 Gallery: Maiasaura	Oh yeah-- did you stay on the Leptin Reset after that? I mean continually? Are you still doing it, or did you add stuff back in? How long after did you add things, and did it impact? If so, what did you do to correct it?

03-29-2012, 07:10 AM	#137
Nicole T Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 979 Gallery: Nicole T Stats: 192/179/170 WOE: 5:2/Paleo Start Date: 4/22/13	I would just do P3 until you get back but cut out all dairy--including cream. If he has a blender, you should be able to make the coconut creamer--I even brought my mini-food processor in my suitcase with me when I went to FL so I could make it And you are allowed to bring solid food items on the plane--just not liquids (hence why you're lima beans were taken from you). You can definitely pack bacon, hot dogs etc and take it with you. I am not currently on Leptin--life got crazy in the mornings--but I still follow his no snacking between meals and eat a pretty big breakfast--just not usually within 30 min of waking. I stabilized great and can now even have occasional treats with no gains. I am doing one more round of hcg now to try to get back down to my goal weight and NOT mess up P3 now that I know how to do it. Last time I had a few drinks 2 days into P3 and it made me gain 4 lbs and I could never lose it after that.

03-29-2012, 01:51 PM	#139
Nicole T Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 979 Gallery: Nicole T Stats: 192/179/170 WOE: 5:2/Paleo Start Date: 4/22/13	If you're checking luggage you could definitely pack the stick blender--like I said, I packed my mini food processor with it's VERY sharp blade Not sure about not using the egg--I guess you could try a flax replacer and see. Let us know if you try it!

03-29-2012, 05:14 PM	#141
Nicole T Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 979 Gallery: Nicole T Stats: 192/179/170 WOE: 5:2/Paleo Start Date: 4/22/13	I'm guessing it's an emulsifier like in mayo but I could be wrong. I don't think it would taste bad without it...it just wouldn't be as thick and probably wouldn't "set up" like whipped cream.

04-17-2012, 02:56 PM	#147
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,408 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Have you tried Fat Fast? I couldn't lose on next to nothing low carb, lost on HCG, but was having trouble losing more and maintaining. I seem to be able to lose on Fat Fast on P2 or P3. Also on P3 you might try balancing fat and protein grams to maintain. This has worked really well for a lot of us. I usually do a little better with my fat being a little higher than my protein.

04-17-2012, 04:33 PM	#149
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,408 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Check out this thread, you have to follow the rules pretty closely for it to work: FAT FASTER'S THREAD

01-17-2013, 04:09 PM	#150
deanajane Junior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 8 Gallery: deanajane Stats: 206/187/150 WOE: HCG Start Date: 12/8/12	I know this is an old thread but is there by chance anyone's around who still reads this? I'm having the same problem with P3, i can not stabilize my weight at all. I've done more correction days that i care to think about. I'm getting angrier and angrier and just about ready to skip and go back to P2 even though I know I'm not supposed to. I'm at the end of week 3 in P3 and i'm up 3.2 lbs. My correction days have been eggs. I know that could be the problem, but i don't like skin on checken, i can't stand the thought of eating a raw egg for proein shakes, and i've never cared for steak. I ate chicken breast and very lean hamburger for P2 and that was it for my protein. So my real question is I though about trying the Leptin reset BUT i have a hypo thryroid and have to take my medication first thing in the morning with a full glass of water. No food allowed for an hour. Any ideas what I could do? Thanks Deana PS I have not cheated, no starch and no sugar.