Concerns about P4

[garnet10]

I may unfortunately be starting P4 at the top of my window (2 lbs over LDW).

I eat high fat and high protein on P3. I'm concerned about what will happen when I add in carbs.

Do you guys lower your fat intake when adding in a starch?

[Millenia98]

For the most part, yes. I don’t expect that long term, I can get away with having deep fried protein and cream all day long (if combining with carbs). So yes, I tone it down a bit more.

As a lifestyle, I don’t eat bread, pasta, potatoes or rice, but even with adding the other types of carbs in P4, I try to ween off of the super high fats.

[shelbyla]

I actually make sure that I am eating fat WITH my carbs as theoretically it slows digestion/absorption of the carbs. Like Millenia, I watch the totals though and cut back a bit on both fruit (sugar) and added fats--I use HnH instead of HWC, 1T of butter instead of 2, etc.

[Emi]

I did lower my fat intake... I switched to light cream in my coffee, low fat GY, low fat ricotta etc... also, I kept low processed carbs part of my lifestyle.. however... the fun part was I didn't stress about it.. I ate what I wanted.. it was awesome and I can't wait to get back there!!!!

[katiesmemaw]

Finishing up my last day of 3 week P4! I am still 7 pounds below my LDW which is where I have been since P3. I am amazed and astonished that yesterday I ate out with dh twice. Had Seafood Quiche, salad and fresh fruit cup.....last night we went to a mexican rest. and I ate Tortilla chips and salsa, steak and chicken Fajitas (without the wrap), salad, quacamole and sour cream. and this morning I am down .2 lb. YEA!!!! Thank you Dr. S.
I have added very little carbs or starches. For me they are addictions I will live without!!!! I do eat fruit several times a day. I choose the 0% or 2 % Fage Greek Yogurt with my fruit. What a treat. Good luck to you and to all of us as we transition to living with our losses!!!

[garnet10]

Thanks, ladies! Your comments make sense. But I cannot live without heavy cream in my coffee!

Originally Posted by katiesmemaw

Finishing up my last day of 3 week P4! I am still 7 pounds below my LDW which is where I have been since P3. I am amazed and astonished that yesterday I ate out with dh twice. Had Seafood Quiche, salad and fresh fruit cup.....last night we went to a mexican rest. and I ate Tortilla chips and salsa, steak and chicken Fajitas (without the wrap), salad, quacamole and sour cream. and this morning I am down .2 lb. YEA!!!! Thank you Dr. S.
I have added very little carbs or starches. For me they are addictions I will live without!!!! I do eat fruit several times a day. I choose the 0% or 2 % Fage Greek Yogurt with my fruit. What a treat. Good luck to you and to all of us as we transition to living with our losses!!!

I have reconciled myself to the fact that I will not be eating a sandwich everyday, and I certainly won't be snacking on cookies. I have decided I will only have bread or pasta when we go out to eat (if I want it that night), and I am so happy with my Fage and frozen raspberries I don't even desire sugar (and I don't add alternative sweetener to this.)

But I have learned the same thing--I was so rigid about Simeons protocol, and so impressed with weight loss in my first round and stabilization in P3 that I ate the way he described in P4 and I started to gain. Because for me, I cannot "eat whatever I please". Even though I was not over-indulging, flour and sugar make me gain. And you are right--they are addictive!

See you all in P4 sometime next week!

[katiesmemaw]

Originally Posted by garnet10

Thanks, ladies! Your comments make sense. But I cannot live without heavy cream in my coffee!



I have reconciled myself to the fact that I will not be eating a sandwich everyday, and I certainly won't be snacking on cookies. I have decided I will only have bread or pasta when we go out to eat (if I want it that night), and I am so happy with my Fage and frozen raspberries I don't even desire sugar (and I don't add alternative sweetener to this.)

But I have learned the same thing--I was so rigid about Simeons protocol, and so impressed with weight loss in my first round and stabilization in P3 that I ate the way he described in P4 and I started to gain. Because for me, I cannot "eat whatever I please". Even though I was not over-indulging, flour and sugar make me gain. And you are right--they are addictive!

See you all in P4 sometime next week!

Yeah garnet10. You have done so great. You are sooooooooooo close to goal that you are amazing!!! I so wish I had learned the lessons I have learned in the last 3 months since beginning this protocol on July 3. This is wonderful and a way of life we can choose to live with ................or not. For me.......no problem with the decision. Again garnet10 you are AMAZING!!!

[katiesmemaw]

PS....I love your avatar picture. What a pretty baby!!!

[garnet10]

Originally Posted by katiesmemaw

Yeah garnet10. You have done so great. You are sooooooooooo close to goal that you are amazing!!! I so wish I had learned the lessons I have learned in the last 3 months since beginning this protocol on July 3. This is wonderful and a way of life we can choose to live with ................or not. For me.......no problem with the decision. Again garnet10 you are AMAZING!!!

OMG, you just made my day! I'm not that amazing--it is this diet! I'm so grateful to Dr. Simeons for creating this and the miracle of the internet that I found hCG. I feel like if I can do this, anybody can.

My doggie is 4 years old, and she's such a riot! We just love her.

Betty, you are pretty amazing yourself! People like you are what make this forum such a pleasure. Thank you so much!

[katiesmemaw]

Originally Posted by garnet10

OMG, you just made my day! I'm not that amazing--it is this diet! I'm so grateful to Dr. Simeons for creating this and the miracle of the internet that I found hCG. I feel like if I can do this, anybody can.

My doggie is 4 years old, and she's such a riot! We just love her.

Betty, you are pretty amazing yourself! People like you are what make this forum such a pleasure. Thank you so much!

Thank you garnet10 for the kind words. This is a great diet isn't it!! I am soooooo happy to have learned about this plan. Every day has been a revelation about me and my eating habits and my health. I have been AMAZED to see this work. Today is my last P4 day. I'm loading tomorrow and Monday and then I'm on R2P2 for 23 to 43 days. Whatever it takes to lose all the weight I want to lose once and forever. Can you believe we are this close??? Congratulations on your success.
P.S. what's your doggie's name. Beautiful dog!!!

[garnet10]

Originally Posted by katiesmemaw

Thank you garnet10 for the kind words. This is a great diet isn't it!! I am soooooo happy to have learned about this plan. Every day has been a revelation about me and my eating habits and my health. I have been AMAZED to see this work. Today is my last P4 day. I'm loading tomorrow and Monday and then I'm on R2P2 for 23 to 43 days. Whatever it takes to lose all the weight I want to lose once and forever. Can you believe we are this close??? Congratulations on your success.
P.S. what's your doggie's name. Beautiful dog!!!

Oh, good luck on your second round! Seeing those numbers on the scale go down is such an awesome thing. I was also very surprised that this really works. You are right--it is a revelation learning how I have to eat to not gain all the weight back.

My dog's name is Sanibel. I had some very German Shepherd type names picked out but the family finally didn't like any of them! (We used to go to Sanibel Island for vacation when the kids were younger.) She's such a great dog. So much fun.

Congratulations on your success as well! One more round! Very exciting. I'm strangely nervous about starting my 5th round in three weeks--I'm worried I'm still going to have my saddlebags. But the last time I was that slender I wasn't working out with weights, so hopefully that will help.

Good luck!!