Red Hot HCG Girls! Week of 8/15

[Millenia98]

Thanks SO much Private and Jen

[verbqueen]

What Jen said, Layla--just look at my example. I was discouraged and filled with despair and even some kind of misplaced anger at, well, SOMETHING. But then suddenly, I moved on.

Had you considered maybe doing the apple day thing? It's probably silly and mostly just a mind-game, but it did work for me.

And Millenia--fantastic new avatar. You're looking GOOD!

[laylabean]

im just discouraged, i have hung in and that is because of the words here, it helps so much. huge thank you!

[Millenia98]

Originally Posted by verbqueen

What Jen said, Layla--just look at my example. I was discouraged and filled with despair and even some kind of misplaced anger at, well, SOMETHING. But then suddenly, I moved on.

Had you considered maybe doing the apple day thing? It's probably silly and mostly just a mind-game, but it did work for me.

And Millenia--fantastic new avatar. You're looking GOOD!

Thanks babe!

[Wigglesmom]

Originally Posted by verbqueen

I weighed in today at 174.2 on the nose--AGAIN. That's three days straight of the identical same weight. I think that is stable enough to make today my last dosing day, tomorrow and Saturday my last two VLC days, and P3 to start on Sunday!

Welcome to P3. You'll do great! You were dedicated to a strict P2 and you'll be a perfect P3'er.

Originally Posted by jnaakins

This morning I am 186. 6 ....Im pretty happy about it! I have been dealing with some *major* stress the last few days, alot of stuff going on with my teenage daughter and at this point I can only hope I survive it!! Honestly maybe its a good thing to be so stressed that you are sick to your stomach, it makes it easier to avoid eating too much

Sorry about the stress Jen but great job at stabalizing. I have a stepdaughter who is now 17 and we went through some horrible times for a few years. But she's doing great now. Keep the faith. And congrats on the new house.

Originally Posted by laylabean

ok. stayed the same today. SOOO frustrated. i have been eating ok so its not that, perhaps a little low on my water as it has been very cold here (10 degrees C), there were some snow flakes yesterday (nothing like we get just a tease). its august! there is not need for these temps!!!!! i find it harder to drink all my water when its cold outside, just doesn't have the same appeal.

i don't know, im a little stressed. i really need a loss tomorrow, just to keep my heart and head in this. especially to make this work during my trip.

good day to everyone.

Just ride it out Layla. You're doing a fantastic job. Try not to stress about the scale. You know you're doing everything right. Stress will just mess with you. Maybe not weigh for a few days. I know how a constant up and down can mess with your head.

[Tipsy]

Well I stay on program all but one meal and I am up 2.4!! Seriously I was floored because I didn't even do that bad with tge one meal considering I didn't have a choice.

[Wigglesmom]

Originally Posted by Tipsy

Well I stay on program all but one meal and I am up 2.4!! Seriously I was floored because I didn't even do that bad with tge one meal considering I didn't have a choice.

Hi Tipsy. It might be because of stress, traveling, change of routine, not enough water, etc. Just make sure you stick to P2 and it will start coming off again. Stay strong. You can do it!

[privatediva]

Tipsy, definitely don't worry, just keep on for a few days as you settle back into your normal routine. Stress makes your body work very hard to retain your weight...it's a hormonal response. If you keep on track with the eating, you will eventually win the battle with your body's stress response. Try not to exacerbate your stress level by worrying about not losing...in addition to all the other stress you've been through with your family's loss, the trip, the funeral etc. Maybe treat yourself pretty nice now that your home, huh? Light a candle and take a bath with a big cool glass of lemon water and some soothing tunes. Like...every day for a while. Bless your heart...there are times when the most important thing of all is to take care of yourself. Body and soul.

[Tipsy]

I am trying to not beat myself up over the gain...but dang I expected maybe a pound but not so much. Oh well. It is what it is!

Thanks for the encouragement

[verbqueen]

Tipsy, that weight is not "real," I promise you--you're just hold more water from eating starches. Carbs and travel stress make our liver produce glycogen and cause us to hold extra water. The same thing happened to me during my trip to Seattle. I never ate off plan at all, yet I still grabbed and held an extra couple of pounds for several days. When I got home, all quickly returned to normal.

Don't give up--and remember this--any other trip, before you started hcg, you'd probably have gained at least 5 pounds, right? But you are a new you on a mission now--those days are gone!

On my front--heading out shortly to meet my book club to see "The Help." We read it last year--great book! I weighed in up .2, but I did have to weigh quite a bit earlier than usual, so not too concerned.

It feels odd, popping right out of bed and drinking coffee and eating an apple without waiting for the pellets to have 20 minutes! Gotta readjust!

Talk to you girls later.

[Tipsy]

Ok, so I thought I would be back on track and no looking back today...well I left my food at HOME!

So I have hit the stocked kitchen and blown today all the heck. Just mindless snacking. This is so not good.

Hope to reel it back in before I really blow it...I mean I did great but one day in AR and now I am out of control.

[jnaakins]

Tipsy, just hang on, its far from being irrepairable! Just plan on 3 days to get back to where you were, but remember how worth it it is! You will get back on track, just plan on the extra days for correction. We are here for you and rooting you on, you CAN do this!! You've done soooo good so far! Dont let 2 "bad" days overtake you! Stay strong! Makes the best choices you can today and start fresh tomorrow. Dont weigh in for a couple of days.

[verbqueen]

Yeah, what she said--don't let it throw you! Don't use this as an excuse to binge--stop eating NOW and fix a normal P2 dinner for yourself when you get home. Acknowledge your mistake and move on RIGHT NOW!

Wow, Jen--look at how well you are staying in your window. Really impressive!

Where the heck is everybody? What happened to our thread?

[freckle face]

Hello all. I have to admit, I am not doing well. I am still very hungry all the time. I'm wondering if my hhcg isn't the best. Perhaps I should stop and wait until my rx hcg arrives??? I don't know. Any thoughts or words of wisdom?

[Wigglesmom]

Originally Posted by freckle face

Hello all. I have to admit, I am not doing well. I am still very hungry all the time. I'm wondering if my hhcg isn't the best. Perhaps I should stop and wait until my rx hcg arrives??? I don't know. Any thoughts or words of wisdom?

I'm sorry you're still struggling with hunger. Where did you get your hhcg? Are they drops or pellets? When will you get your rx?

[freckle face]

Pattie, they are drops. My rx should be here in 10-14 days.

The ingredients are hCG 12x, 30x, 60x, L-Carnitine 12x, 30x, Arginine 12x, 30x, Glycine 12x, 30x, Lysine12x, 30x, Phenylalanine 12x, 30x, Ornithine 12x, 30x, Tyrosine 12x, 30x, Phosphorus 12x, Calcarea carbonica 12x, Ammonium carbonicum 30x, and 20% usp kosher alcohol.

[Wigglesmom]

Originally Posted by freckle face

Pattie, they are drops. My rx should be here in 10-14 days.

Believe me, I'm no expert but the first few days I was hungry too. After a week, I played around with my dosage and found that decreasing my afternoon dosage helped with my hunger issues. I took the pellets 3x a day. Have you tried playing with the dosage? Are you strictly protocol or do you not follow the Pounds and Inches manual? Are you eating enough calories?

Can you post the last couple of days of what you're eating?

[freckle face]

I pretty much have the same thing daily.
B- tea, water
L-chicken, cucumber grissini
S-apple
D-chicken, spinach, grissini, strawberries with a splash of milk and Stevia.

[jnaakins]

FF how long have you been on the drops now? I agree with Wiggles, play around with the dosage, alot of people do that and find that "sweet spot" in fact, Im hoping Millenia will read this because she had terrible hunger too and she had to adjust her dosage until she found what worked. Are you drinking lots of tea? Thats what got me through that first week and a half. Drank tea non-stop all day pretty much.

Jess- thank you Im super happy that I havent had to do a CD so far. Crossing fingers! How is your first VLC day going? Did the hunger pick up without the hcg? My first day was really really bad but the 2nd day there was almost no hunger
Also wanted to say I agree, where is everyone from our little group? Any word from Kimmie lately? Remember Trish? Wonder what happened to her? If you guys are lurking, give a shout out and let us know how you are doing

[freckle face]

Jen, I am drinking tea non-stop! I even bought a 40oz cast iron, Japenese tea pot so that I always have some hot and waiting for me. I go through two a day. I am on VLCD 5.

[jnaakins]

Okay good. Have you tried hot chicken broth with a little tabasco sauce? I have read that it does wonders for hunger. What kind of tea are you drinking? There are certain teas that are supposed to help with appetite suppression.

[jnaakins]

Also, Im thinking that if you hang in a little longer you will see the hunger decrease. The first week is much harder than once you get into the 2nd week for alot of people. I know it was true for me anyway.

[freckle face]

I'm drinking mostly jasmine green tea. I switch to roobios in the evening.

[laylabean]

ok, i was down .5 today which puts me back at 184. everyone was right and i appreciate the encouragement and support. plus i needed a boost so THANK YOU. counting my load days, i am down 28 lbs from start date of July 14th. i needed to think about that to have some perspective!!! between the inches and the weight, a couple days stall was nothing. BIG PICTURE!

i do admit, it was discouraging however, it was not a reason to throw in the towel and i just needed to regroup. thank you everyone for keeping me on track!!!

i need some strength the next two weeks and will be leaning on everyone intensely as i will be travelling and making this plan work on the road...

im taking a 14 day break from the scale as i do not want to pack it (believe me, i considered it!) but i do plan to stay intensely on plan.

i did up my protein yesterday and ate way too many strawberries (we had a shipment of beautiful fresh ripe berries and i ate about 2 pints before i realized how many it was) but i was still down today. i suppose if i am going to *cheat* better it be protocol foods. it could lead to trouble tomorrow??? i felt good with a little extra 'bulk' in my eating yesterday and i feel back to normal today.

my goal is to lose the last 14 lbs before i hit p3. will do three weeks, load 2, and start round 2 with hubby.

i often do more reading than posting here but your support and encouragement is keeping me going. i cannot say thanks enough!

im wondering where kimmie is or how she is doing??? i don't remember reading anything current from her.

all good things ladies...have a fabulous evening

[Wigglesmom]

Here's a link to Millenia's post about changing the dosage of her drops. I know I've read more people comment about it too. Maybe you should start a new post asking for suggestions on dosing.

Not hungry anymore - this is very weird

[freckle face]

Thanks so much.

[Wigglesmom]

Layla - glad to hear you were down this morning. It's frustrating when you know you do everything right but the scale doesn't show it.

Being on the road for two weeks is going to be tough but you know it can be done. Just think about the end result and every day you follow the program, you're that much closer to goal.


So, now I'm having second thoughts about going from just 3 weeks of P3 back to another round. Maybe I should do P4? I'm so confused. I don't want to ruin a good thing by not following the plan as written.

[laylabean]

Originally Posted by freckle face

Hello all. I have to admit, I am not doing well. I am still very hungry all the time. I'm wondering if my hhcg isn't the best. Perhaps I should stop and wait until my rx hcg arrives??? I don't know. Any thoughts or words of wisdom?

my thoughts...keeping in mind i am doing a vegetarian version but i also take hhcg. i found the first week when i took my drops 6x per day i was quite hungry at night. i ended up adding 1/3 cup of 2% cottage cheese in the evenings. i don't know about all fat free cottage cheese but the one available to me here has starches in it. the two percent is a little higher in fat but it didn't impact my losses (12.5 first week) and it is just cottage cheese, no thickener.

after the first week, i changed my drops schedule around to match my needs at work...the 6 times a day just wasn't working for me. i took my drops 3x a day at a double dose and started my doses much later in the day with last dose just as i went to bed.

i don't know if it was changing the dose or just being in week 2 but the hunger stopped.

when i got hungry at night, i found that feeling of an empty belly kept me from sleeping so the cottage cheese worked for me. i like it with a little curry powder myself, it seems to sooth my stomach. if curry is not your thing, stevia and cinnamon might appeal to you?

i do drink a ton of green tea but i also like chai tea with stevia and the tablespoon of milk. again, i use 2%. the chai seems to have the same effect of completely soothing my stomach (sorry its not very descriptive, just tastes really good to me and something about the spices makes me feel good, satisfied??)

my job is quite physical so i have also found on thursday or friday ( i work a 5/4 split); whatever day is the *end* of the week for me, i am HUNGRY by 5pm. i have consistently allowed myself to double protein sizes on those days once per week if needed. once was two whole eggs instead of the whole egg and three whites. i have also had one boiled egg with some fruit as a snack occasionally on weekends. i guess more realistically its a little added fat as opposed to protein...i do have protein shakes at lunch that keep me full all afternoon, works for me better than a *meal*.

i sincerely hope you find some comfort physically. i would try a few things like changing foods to see what gives you the greatest feeling of 'being full' and finding a dosage balance or pattern that works best for you.

if you decide to wait and switch to rx then that is ok too!

whew, long post...hope there is something of value in there for you f/f. perhaps my suggestions are not the best as i have veered off protocol at times. i am off protocol generally i suppose doing vegetarian??? and i have certainly not been perfect on this journey but i am feeling good physically and that is important as well.

my struggle right now is getting the veggies in...i have tired of cabbage and lettuce plus i had a strawberry overindulgence last night...perhaps you should disregard all my suggestions

[verbqueen]

Wiggles, I am ALREADY worrying about what to do about P4, and I haven't even started P3 yet. Sheesh--we are really PERFECTIONISTS around here, aren't we? Do share your thoughts with us as you go through your decision process, since we'll all have to make the same call, sooner or later.

FF, I changed my dosage several different times. During the first week, I added a pellet to each dose, and I felt that that helped my hunger. But during the third week, I started feeling hungry again, so I lowered my number of pellets in the morning and midday and I thought that helped. So don't be afraid to play around a little.

And I might get shot down for this, but in my heart I wondered if I mostly just got accustomed to the sensation of an empty stomach, and just kind of stopped noticing it after a while? In any case, whatever gets you through the days, that's what you need to do!

Layla, I pitched a way bigger fit than you during my week+ of stalling, so don't feel bad. As deprivation intensive as this diet is, we really NEED to see those losses to keep ourselves on plan. But wow--you've lost REALLY well, way more than I did, in less time. So chin up!

As far as me--I'm not a bit hungry today. I even just baked lemon bars, brownies and sugar cookies for my choir party with nary a temptation to taste. I must still have plenty of hcg floating around the old bod.

We'll see what tomorrow brings. And dangit, on Sunday, I'll be having a steak for BREAKFAST! And I am NOT joking, either! I've missed my fat!

[laylabean]

Originally Posted by verbqueen

Layla, I pitched a way bigger fit than you during my week+ of stalling, so don't feel bad. As deprivation intensive as this diet is, we really NEED to see those losses to keep ourselves on plan. But wow--you've lost REALLY well, way more than I did, in less time. So chin up!

As far as me--I'm not a bit hungry today. I even just baked lemon bars, brownies and sugar cookies for my choir party with nary a temptation to taste. I must still have plenty of hcg floating around the old bod.

We'll see what tomorrow brings. And dangit, on Sunday, I'll be having a steak for BREAKFAST! And I am NOT joking, either! I've missed my fat!

rah rah, you have earned that steak! sounds like a great idea. i wondered what my appetite would be like when i started p3, have some worries it would be out of control! i have moments now when i am almost turned off by food, like i have to make sure i eat at times. other times i do feel hungry and up portions. perhaps at the end of the week it balances out???

i have so much more to lose, i had assumed that is why my body is releasing like it is...on that topic...i would be curious to compare percentage losses over the days duration on p2 for individuals of different weights. i wonder if the percentages would even everyone out (those close to goal and those like myself with several rounds to do

i have lost approximately 13% (if my math is correct)...if i was 150 (it will happen) the equivalent weight loss would be around 19 lbs over the same period. i would be curious to know what percentage individuals lost over equal time periods of p2 just to see if the percentages were consistent per round???

i have been very inspired by your journey and impressed by your honesty at each step! its realistic that we have ups and downs and your persistence/consistency paid off HUGE! you are in 'normal weight range' i remember reading and that is a goal that i share (i am still obese category 1...arg). i admire your tenacity and appreciate all your support. congratulations on your success...plus i still love the taco salad story you rocked this program with finesse to spare!