Turkey on P2

RedsSkinnyJeans · 08-15-2011, 06:02 AM

So, why wasn't turkey on protocol?

Do ya'll have turkey breast? I have thyroid and insulin resistance, so I have to go really really strict.

Just curious.

Balance101 · 08-15-2011, 06:11 AM

I've made a turkey breast in the crock pot and have bought the 99% lean ground turkey and have had no problems with it.

RedsSkinnyJeans · 08-15-2011, 08:07 AM

I guess I'm saying...... I know it's not on protocol. (I had turkey and I gained)

But I don't understand why

miamiloca · 08-15-2011, 08:07 AM

Ive done the breast only,many times--and it was fine.

Balance101 · 08-15-2011, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedsSkinnyJeans

I guess I'm saying...... I know it's not on protocol. (I had turkey and I gained)

But I don't understand why

Is there a chance it was something other than the turkey?

desifink · 08-15-2011, 08:30 AM

I eat Boar's Head chicken, turkey, and ham. I don't like seafood so I need something to relieve the monotony of chicken, beef, chicken, beef, chicken, beef...I know it's not protocol but it keeps me sane, and I don't do it every day.

myrna · 08-15-2011, 08:32 AM

According to ****** - when comparing 3 oz of chicken breast to 3 oz of turkey breast (boneless/skinless on both) chicken has twice the protein and 1/10th the sodium. That might be why?

Having said that, I used the extra lean ground turkey patties sometimes in P2.

RedsSkinnyJeans · 08-15-2011, 09:05 AM

I suppose it could be that I had some extra salt on something. I don't think so.

I suppose what I really want to know is this. What was Dr. Simeons reasoning in regard to keeping turkey off protocol?

I have thyroid, insulin resistant, and perimenopausal issues. So my body can be really resistant to losing. In order to get any sort of progress, I have to go really conservative. I get that. I'll play by the strict rules even if I don't like it. I just want to know why.

hauermich · 08-15-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by myrna

According to ****** - when comparing 3 oz of chicken breast to 3 oz of turkey breast (boneless/skinless on both) chicken has twice the protein and 1/10th the sodium. That might be why?

Having said that, I used the extra lean ground turkey patties sometimes in P2.

I use ***********.com and it does not calculate sodium...but, if comparing 3 oz of turkey and chicken...fresh chicken and/or turkey breast how does sodium come into play? Or are we talking processed turkey and chicken? I'm confused.

There is added sodium in fresh meat?...unless it is flavor enhanced maybe???

*********** says 3 oz turkey breast is 88 calories, 15 grams of protein....3 oz chicken breast is 94 calories and 20 grams of protein.

I use Jenni-O 99% lean ground turkey breast in "chili" and it is pretty good. Not sure why turkey could stall someone.

dawnyama · 08-15-2011, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedsSkinnyJeans

I suppose it could be that I had some extra salt on something. I don't think so.

I suppose what I really want to know is this. What was Dr. Simeons reasoning in regard to keeping turkey off protocol?

I have thyroid, insulin resistant, and perimenopausal issues. So my body can be really resistant to losing. In order to get any sort of progress, I have to go really conservative. I get that. I'll play by the strict rules even if I don't like it. I just want to know why.

Could be your body just doesn't like it!!! Remember there are protocol foods that we will not lose well on either. I know someone who stalls every time they eat cabbage and then another will stall eating apples and chicken. Those ladies do NOT eat them while on plan. So we all have our sensitive foods--foods that work for us and those that don't!!

I am a strict protocol girl and follow the rules. Therefore I don't eat turkey on protocol. I don't care to find out the whys. I know he didn't include it for a reason--and I don't care why. He just didn't include it and that is good enough for me. I can do without for 21 days (or longer as I am on this for at least 14 more days). In the meantime I eat shrimp, crab meat, chicken...the other proteins on the list.

myrna · 08-15-2011, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hauermich

I use ***********.com and it does not calculate sodium...but, if comparing 3 oz of turkey and chicken...fresh chicken and/or turkey breast how does sodium come into play? Or are we talking processed turkey and chicken? I'm confused.

There is added sodium in fresh meat?...unless it is flavor enhanced maybe???

*********** says 3 oz turkey breast is 88 calories, 15 grams of protein....3 oz chicken breast is 94 calories and 20 grams of protein.

I use Jenni-O 99% lean ground turkey breast in "chili" and it is pretty good. Not sure why turkey could stall someone.

No idea. I assumed it was regular fresh meat as it says boneless, skinless breast. I know the human body has a sodium level, so I guess fowl could, too.

I'm no nutritionist, but when the question was posted, I became curious and googled it. Found the link, read it, thought the part at the bottom was interesting, so I posted it.

RedsSkinnyJeans · 08-15-2011, 10:45 AM

Dawn:
That could possibly true. Maybe when I eat turkey, my body thinks it's supposed to be fat and go to sleep. LOL

LaraSuzz · 08-15-2011, 10:59 AM

I just read an article that said 93% turkey is okay for p2 along with salmon and tuna. It also said no smoking or Splenda... interesting. and coconut oil too. Confusing. Makes me want some Salmon, mmm. From the hcg weight loss journey site.

Be careful I've read some salmonella outbreaks involving Jennie-o turhey jsutthis month.

C'Marie · 08-16-2011, 12:43 AM

There are different plans out there floating around that say other things are ok. I simply go with the Pounds and Inches protocol. He said in it that every type of food was considered and nothing allowable was left out, and that he picked those foods because of their specific properties. That's all we know.

Frankly, and I know you're not trying to whine about it, but if I was told all I could eat was oatmeal WITH tuna fish and nothing else for 23-40 days to lose the kind of weight that I can with hcg, I'd do it. I was so desperate to lose weight that it didn't matter to me what was on the plan. It was good, healthy food, not prepackaged, expensive cr@p either.

RedsSkinnyJeans · 08-16-2011, 04:17 AM

Thanks C'Marie. I'm curious by nature. Was just wondering why. But, I feel the same. I'm strict protocol; greedy for every ounce of loss.

shelbyla · 08-16-2011, 04:56 AM

Ah, if only we could channel the good doctor and ASK...

(@ Red: When you're chewing on life's gristle, don't grumble; give a whistle, and this'll help things turn out for the best. And... always look on the bright side of life... )

dawnyama · 08-16-2011, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C'Marie

There are different plans out there floating around that say other things are ok. I simply go with the Pounds and Inches protocol. He said in it that every type of food was considered and nothing allowable was left out, and that he picked those foods because of their specific properties. That's all we know.

Frankly, and I know you're not trying to whine about it, but if I was told all I could eat was oatmeal WITH tuna fish and nothing else for 23-40 days to lose the kind of weight that I can with hcg, I'd do it. I was so desperate to lose weight that it didn't matter to me what was on the plan. It was good, healthy food, not prepackaged, expensive cr@p either.

At the beginning of my hcg journey 2 years ago, I told everyone that if I had to eat dirt to lose like this I would. Then actually found out that some people do that

But I feel totally like you CMarie. I cannot lose on anything else, so I stick to the plan and it works. It really works!!

If it didn't work, I would not be doing it 2 years later.

C'Marie · 08-16-2011, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedsSkinnyJeans

Thanks C'Marie. I'm curious by nature. Was just wondering why. But, I feel the same. I'm strict protocol; greedy for every ounce of loss.

I know, hon, me too. I'm always *that one* in the classroom raising hand...."but WHY!?" and I always got told, "That's not within the scope of this class...."

But truly, deeply, lovingly.... I'd kiss Dr S on his big ol' head if I could.

It could be Dawn is right - some people just can't even eat everything on the plan - good thing there's lotsa choices!

(and I remember you saying you also had some Davinci SF syrup? that could be a culprit in your slowdown also - you might consider dumping that. Raven and I both noticed gains even on P3 with it)

RedsSkinnyJeans · 08-16-2011, 09:09 AM

I hear ya!! I did! No splenda. No Davinci. No nuthin'!!

Know what's pretty funny. My normal comfort level is about 70-72 degrees. After that, I can get uncomfortable. And now, on P2, the house is at like 76-80. I'm saving money on air conditioning!! (Not for sleep though, I still like to sleep at meat-locker-temps). :-)

08-15-2011, 06:02 AM	#1
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	Turkey on P2 So, why wasn't turkey on protocol? Do ya'll have turkey breast? I have thyroid and insulin resistance, so I have to go really really strict. Just curious.

08-15-2011, 08:30 AM	#6
desifink Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: sunny (er, hot, humid, sticky) FL Posts: 415 Gallery: desifink Stats: 210/210/150 WOE: Hhcg Start Date: July 8, 2012	I eat Boar's Head chicken, turkey, and ham. I don't like seafood so I need something to relieve the monotony of chicken, beef, chicken, beef, chicken, beef...I know it's not protocol but it keeps me sane, and I don't do it every day. Last edited by desifink; 08-15-2011 at 08:32 AM..

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C'Marie Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,047 Gallery: C'Marie Stats: 270/down 110-ish/ goal 147 WOE: hCG Rx shots/JUDDD maintain Start Date: 1/4/2010 Now R9 P2	There are different plans out there floating around that say other things are ok. I simply go with the Pounds and Inches protocol. He said in it that every type of food was considered and nothing allowable was left out, and that he picked those foods because of their specific properties. That's all we know. Frankly, and I know you're not trying to whine about it, but if I was told all I could eat was oatmeal WITH tuna fish and nothing else for 23-40 days to lose the kind of weight that I can with hcg, I'd do it. I was so desperate to lose weight that it didn't matter to me what was on the plan. It was good, healthy food, not prepackaged, expensive cr@p either. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* HCG Rx to lose - JUDDD to maintain

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08-15-2011, 06:11 AM	#2
Balance101 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CT girl in NC Posts: 1,010 Gallery: Balance101 WOE: hHcg Start Date: 10/1/12	I've made a turkey breast in the crock pot and have bought the 99% lean ground turkey and have had no problems with it.

08-15-2011, 08:07 AM	#3
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	I guess I'm saying...... I know it's not on protocol. (I had turkey and I gained) But I don't understand why

08-15-2011, 08:07 AM	#4
miamiloca Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: S.Florida Posts: 416 Gallery: miamiloca Stats: 299 high/269 started hcg/197.0 ALDW/175 WOE: HHCG Start Date: 3-5-2011	Ive done the breast only,many times--and it was fine.

08-15-2011, 08:32 AM	#7
myrna Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 310 Gallery: myrna Stats: 5'6" - 199/178.6/150 WOE: hHCG pellets Start Date: R1: 6/9/11 \| R2: 7/30/12	According to ****** - when comparing 3 oz of chicken breast to 3 oz of turkey breast (boneless/skinless on both) chicken has twice the protein and 1/10th the sodium. That might be why? Having said that, I used the extra lean ground turkey patties sometimes in P2.

08-15-2011, 09:05 AM	#8
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	I suppose it could be that I had some extra salt on something. I don't think so. I suppose what I really want to know is this. What was Dr. Simeons reasoning in regard to keeping turkey off protocol? I have thyroid, insulin resistant, and perimenopausal issues. So my body can be really resistant to losing. In order to get any sort of progress, I have to go really conservative. I get that. I'll play by the strict rules even if I don't like it. I just want to know why.

08-15-2011, 10:45 AM	#12
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	Dawn: That could possibly true. Maybe when I eat turkey, my body thinks it's supposed to be fat and go to sleep. LOL

08-15-2011, 10:59 AM	#13
LaraSuzz Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,777 Gallery: LaraSuzz Stats: baby steps WOE: Dr. Atw Simeons Protocol Start Date: restart 3/5/2012 multiple rounds	I just read an article that said 93% turkey is okay for p2 along with salmon and tuna. It also said no smoking or Splenda... interesting. and coconut oil too. Confusing. Makes me want some Salmon, mmm. From the hcg weight loss journey site. Be careful I've read some salmonella outbreaks involving Jennie-o turhey jsutthis month.

08-16-2011, 04:17 AM	#15
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	Thanks C'Marie. I'm curious by nature. Was just wondering why. But, I feel the same. I'm strict protocol; greedy for every ounce of loss.

08-16-2011, 04:56 AM	#16
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	Ah, if only we could channel the good doctor and ASK... (@ Red: When you're chewing on life's gristle, don't grumble; give a whistle, and this'll help things turn out for the best. And... always look on the bright side of life... )

08-16-2011, 09:09 AM	#19
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	I hear ya!! I did! No splenda. No Davinci. No nuthin'!! Know what's pretty funny. My normal comfort level is about 70-72 degrees. After that, I can get uncomfortable. And now, on P2, the house is at like 76-80. I'm saving money on air conditioning!! (Not for sleep though, I still like to sleep at meat-locker-temps). :-)