So, you were all right about the peas

[Millenia98]

I casually ate a split pea soup yesterday not even thinking it's not on P3 protocol. After I ate it, you all made comments that it's not allowed. I wanted to take it all back!! I could kill myself. It wasn't even that good. I only ate it because I'm sick and felt stuffy so wanted something light in my stomach and not greasy. AND I thought I was very much within P3 allowance.

I thought I knew P3 so well and made a mistake on the first day. Unreal. At least it wasn't a binge or anything- it was an honest mistake that cost me.

AND I thought that we could eat NO nuts BUT peanuts. Guess what I ate? Peanuts!!!!! THEN I come on the boards only to find out peanuts and cashews are a big no-no on P3. ugh!! I only ate that because I thought they were the only ones allowed (I don't even like peanuts that much).

So, I'm up 1.4. I'm doing a steak day and will get this off. I can't believe I stupidly made those mistakes. I thought I knew P3 so well. I just did it like 2 months ago. Ah! Won't make these mistakes again.

Well, we're off to Vegas and still feel pretty trim. The steak day today will get me there nice and lean and ready for the trip starting tonight

[LilacBruze]

Girl, it happens! Live and learn!

[privatediva]

Have a great time on your trip! You're gorgeous...have fun with that

[julieboolie]

Are you out of your window, or just up from LDW? Don't worry too much. You didn't go crazy and you'll be fine! Either way your steak day should get you some wiggle room and you can enjoy Vegas!! I love the buffets - carving stations, salad bars, fresh fruits and sugar free desserts (they've got sugar alcohols, so be careful w. those). Enjoy!!!

Man, I wish I was going to Vegas!! Have a blast!!

[belfrybat]

Not sure what plan you are on, but Simeon's protocol allows anything in "P3" except starches. Peas are probably at the top of the vegetable list, carb-wise, but unless you really went overboard, I doubt they would hurt you.
From Pounds and Inches:

It takes about 3 weeks before the weight reached at the end of the treatment becomes stable, i.e. does not show violent fluctuations after an occasional excess. During this period patients must realize that the so-called carbohydrates, that is sugar, rice, bread, potatoes, pastries etc, are by far the most dangerous. If no carbohydrates whatsoever are eaten, fats can be indulged in somewhat more liberally and even small quantities of alcohol, such as a glass of wine with meals, does no harm, but as soon as fats and starch are combined things are very liable to get out of hand. This has to be observed very carefully during the first 3 weeks after the treatment is ended otherwise disappointments are almost sure to occur.

I really think it is important that we don't try to overthink the protocol. He is clear that we are to go back to regular eating, but cut out starches, and limit fats and alcohol somewhat. He doesn't say anything specfic about nuts, but I'd go careful due to the high fat content.

[rickd785]

I am really having problems.I began Adkins in 1998 and kt my weight at 195-200 lbs for about 10 Years the last three have been dreadful.I am back up to 230-235 which on my frame 6'4 and 1/2" is not awful but I feel lousy.Sweets and late night eating is the problem.I've tried low carb bread,pickles fruit anything I can think pf but nothing seems to work I just retired and am getting married again in 6 weeks and then to Europe.None of my clothes fit.Help.....
I am new to this site so if I have posted in the wrong place I'm sorry.

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by belfrybat

Not sure what plan you are on, but Simeon's protocol allows anything in "P3" except starches. Peas are probably at the top of the vegetable list, carb-wise, but unless you really went overboard, I doubt they would hurt you.

I really think it is important that we don't try to overthink the protocol. He is clear that we are to go back to regular eating, but cut out starches, and limit fats and alcohol somewhat. He doesn't say anything specfic about nuts, but I'd go careful due to the high fat content.

Peanuts and peas (split or otherwise) are both legumes which are considered starches. Granted, they are resistant starches (low glycemic index) but starches nonetheless, which is why many say that they do not belong in P3.

From ehow:
Difference Between Legumes and Starchy Vegetables

Legumes and starchy vegetables are distinctly different groups of vegetables. Both legumes and starchy vegetables are considered starches in dietary planning, which is especially important when controlling starch intake for diabetes maintenance and other health considerations.

Legumes
Beans are members of the legume family. Legumes are a class of vegetables. Included in the legume family are beans, peas, carob, soy, peanuts and lentils. Legumes are simple plants, developing from a carpel and opening along a seam to form two sides.

Starchy Vegetables
Turnips are categorized as starchy vegetables. Starchy vegetables include potatoes, corn, parsnips, plaintains, squash, yams and sweet potatoes.

Nutrition: Legumes
Legumes are highly nutritious and very versatile. They are low in fat, cholesterol-free and rich in minerals. Legumes are an excellent source of protein.

Nutrition: Starchy Vegetables
Starchy vegetables are high in nutrition and are a good source of dietary fiber, but provide minimal protein. Starchy vegetables are high in carbohydrates.



I love the bean/legume family but waited until P4 to eat them due to the high carbohydrate content. YMMV as you say, though.

Oh and Millenia, don't beat yourself up! You're going to look A-MAZ-ING by the pool in Vegas!

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by rickd785

I am really having problems.I began Adkins in 1998 and kt my weight at 195-200 lbs for about 10 Years the last three have been dreadful.I am back up to 230-235 which on my frame 6'4 and 1/2" is not awful but I feel lousy.Sweets and late night eating is the problem.I've tried low carb bread,pickles fruit anything I can think pf but nothing seems to work I just retired and am getting married again in 6 weeks and then to Europe.None of my clothes fit.Help.....
I am new to this site so if I have posted in the wrong place I'm sorry.

Rick, are you looking at trying HCG to get the weight off? (You have posted on the HCG forum of Low Carb Friends.) If so, take a look at Pounds & Inches and the stickies at the top of this forum. Most men have incredible success with HCG if they stick to the protocol (you probably only need one longish round of 30-40 days to get to your goal weight). Might be something to consider even if you've stumbled upon us by accident!

Here's a link to the main HCG forum... http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/hcg-diets/

[MyKidLoves]

Originally Posted by Millenia98

AND I thought that we could eat NO nuts BUT peanuts. Guess what I ate? Peanuts!!!!! THEN I come on the boards only to find out peanuts and cashews are a big no-no on P3. ugh!! I only ate that because I thought they were the only ones allowed (I don't even like peanuts that much).

Oh, I am so glad I read this! I'm on my second 500 cal/no hhcg day and was ready to eat a little peanut butter tomorrow. You saved my butt!

[paulabob]

Just thought I'd add I have no problem with peanuts/peanut butter in P3. However, it's a very salty food and the sodium can get me. Cashews are definitely pretty high up the glycemic index, peanuts are lower. Technically not a nut, but not sure that Simeon's cared so much. The man included tomatoes as a vegetable when it's technically a fruit. I think almonds are probably the best bet as a first nut to try...high fiber, low net carbs.

Just thought I'd include an alternative thought. Nuts/dairy are best left off for the first few days of P3 anyways, too easy to ramp up the calories too fast.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Millenia98

I casually ate a split pea soup yesterday not even thinking it's not on P3 protocol. After I ate it, you all made comments that it's not allowed. I wanted to take it all back!! I could kill myself. It wasn't even that good. I only ate it because I'm sick and felt stuffy so wanted something light in my stomach and not greasy. AND I thought I was very much within P3 allowance.

I thought I knew P3 so well and made a mistake on the first day. Unreal. At least it wasn't a binge or anything- it was an honest mistake that cost me.

AND I thought that we could eat NO nuts BUT peanuts. Guess what I ate? Peanuts!!!!! THEN I come on the boards only to find out peanuts and cashews are a big no-no on P3. ugh!! I only ate that because I thought they were the only ones allowed (I don't even like peanuts that much).

So, I'm up 1.4. I'm doing a steak day and will get this off. I can't believe I stupidly made those mistakes. I thought I knew P3 so well. I just did it like 2 months ago. Ah! Won't make these mistakes again.

Well, we're off to Vegas and still feel pretty trim. The steak day today will get me there nice and lean and ready for the trip starting tonight

When I feel sick I stick with chicken broth. Safe stuff in there since it is an "OK" P2 food. Peanuts and cashews are the ONLY nuts NOT allowed in P3 because they are legumes and not really nuts.

Have fun on vacation

[Millenia98]

Just FYI for the folks who responded and said not to overthink. Those foods I described (peas and peanuts) caused me a 1.6lb gain just the next day, so I know that's why protocol advises against them. I won't be trying them again until P4. On the bright side, I had to did a strict steak day and lost 5lbs over night. Insane!! I have never lost near as much on a steak day. Now I'm in Vegas and can preserve my sexy just a bit more

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by Millenia98

Just FYI for the folks who responded and said not to overthink. Those foods I described (peas and peanuts) caused me a 1.6lb gain just the next day, so I know that's why protocol advises against them. I won't be trying them again until P4. On the bright side, I had to did a strict steak day and lost 5lbs over night. Insane!! I have never lost near as much on a steak day. Now I'm in Vegas and can preserve my sexy just a bit more

Just a note...I gain that without any "wrong" foods the first few days of P3.

Wow, 5 pounds overnight is crazy...took me 3 weeks to lose that on a P2 round!

[Millenia98]

Just FYI for the folks who responded and said not to over think. Those foods I described (peas and peanuts) caused me a 1.6lb gain just the next day, so I guess that's why protocol advises against them. I won't be trying them again until P4. On the bright side, I had to do a strict steak day and lost 5lbs over night. Insane!! I have never lost near as much on a steak day. Now I'm in Vegas and can preserve my sexy just a bit more