Simeons Protocol -- P3/P4 Week of 8/8/11

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Angel In TN

Hey Peeps!

Well yesterday was my first big stray I was invited to a friend's house to watch a movie. They didn't know I was on any kind of diet and had bought a pizza for us to eat. I just couldn't be rude and not eat some. I ate two pieces of pepperoni with extra cheese but didn't eat the edge crust. I am happy to report that I am exactly the same weight I have been for a week. Auntie Flo is back again too Ughhhhhhh she needs to goooooooooooooooooooo!!! was answered over the pizza and I am

You all are doing so well. I just can't keep up and respond to all of you, so to all of you hanging in there and succeeding!!!!

Hate to burst your bubble, but there is still a chance it will catch up with you. It is called the "2-day effect". Sometimes the scale won't catch up with what you ate for 2 days. So I suggest you eat clean today so it won't be so bad tomorrow. Glad you saw great numbers today, just wanted you to be prepared for tomorrow.

[dazygyrl]

i am bummed. i don't think dh and i can load on the 13th (ds's birthday) i just ordered our pellets last night and i don't think they'll make it to us by fri so we can start dosing on sat. i should have thought it thru better. BUT you can bet we WILL be saving some cake form the birthday!! i'll get tracking info later today so we'll see for sure then when we'll get them.

[LaraSuzz]

Moussaka

6 tablespoons cooking oil 1 onion, chopped 2 cloves garlic, minced 1 pound ground lamb 1/2 cup red wine 1 tablespoon tomato paste 1 1/2 cups canned crushed tomatoes in thick puree (one 15-ounce can) 1 bay leaf 1 cinnamon stick 1/8 teaspoon ground allspice 1 teaspoon salt Fresh-ground black pepper 1 eggplant (about 1 pound), peeled and cut into 1/4-inch slices 4 ounces cream cheese 1/4 cup milk 1/4 cup grated Parmesan

Heat the broiler. In a large stainless-steel frying pan, heat 1 tablespoon of the oil over moderate heat. Add the onion and garlic; cook until starting to soften, about 3 minutes. Add the lamb and cook until the meat loses its pink color, about 2 minutes. Stir in the wine, tomato paste, tomatoes, bay leaf, cinnamon, allspice, 3/4 teaspoon salt, and 1/4 teaspoon pepper. Bring to a boil. Reduce the heat. Simmer, covered, for 10 minutes.

Brush both sides of the eggplant slices with the remaining 5 tablespoons oil and season with 1/8 teaspoon each salt and pepper. Put the eggplant slices on a large baking sheet and broil, 6 inches from the heat, until browned, about 5 minutes. Turn and broil until browned on the other side, about 5 minutes longer.

In a small saucepan, combine the cream cheese, milk, 1/8 teaspoon salt, and a pinch of pepper. Warm over low heat until just melted.
Oil an 8-by-8-inch baking dish. Layer half the eggplant in the dish, then half the meat sauce. Sprinkle with half the Parmesan. Repeat with the remaining eggplant, meat sauce, and Parmesan. Spoon the cream-cheese sauce on top; broil until just starting to brown, 1 to 2 minutes

[Angel In TN]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Hate to burst your bubble, but there is still a chance it will catch up with you. It is called the "2-day effect". Sometimes the scale won't catch up with what you ate for 2 days. So I suggest you eat clean today so it won't be so bad tomorrow. Glad you saw great numbers today, just wanted you to be prepared for tomorrow.

Thank you for letting me know. I eat clean every day, so I am that it stays the same. We will see. I have learned that I can handle anything with confidence since beginning this journey. Well except I still want to murder off Auntie Flo

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by KelliC

Julie, hope you have the best time ever with your first year homeschooling. We are in our 10th year dd, started 9th grade this year

I'm .5 below my ALDW today -- had a migraine yesterday so didn't feel like eating much, soooooo I think I'm going to split some pizza from Sam's Club with one of my little guys I've had Pizza hut with no problem, Sam's just seems like it's scary

Thanks!! I'm enjoying it and trying to be prepared, so it goes more smoothly. We're still getting used to the idea and the reality of keeping them on task. Our math books haven't arrived yet, which is fine. That's their favorite subject, so keeping it for last will probably be a nice incentive. I'll be learning a lot along with them, and I'm weak in history so this will be a good thing!! Great job being below LDW, and being able to eat pizza!! I'd love to get there eventually!!

Originally Posted by Angel In TN

Hey Peeps!

Well yesterday was my first big stray I was invited to a friend's house to watch a movie. They didn't know I was on any kind of diet and had bought a pizza for us to eat. I just couldn't be rude and not eat some. I ate two pieces of pepperoni with extra cheese but didn't eat the edge crust. I am happy to report that I am exactly the same weight I have been for a week. Auntie Flo is back again too Ughhhhhhh she needs to goooooooooooooooooooo!!! was answered over the pizza and I am

You all are doing so well. I just can't keep up and respond to all of you, so to all of you hanging in there and succeeding!!!!

Wow!! That's wonderful!! Sounds quite stable to me!! Even if you bump up a bit tomorrow, you're still safe and set!! WTG!!

Paula-I think I'll stick w. GY Cd's. They really are the most successful for me. I just need to make sure I keep some in the house. I tend to want to understand "why" all the time. I need to just go with it!! . Glad you're working your way back down!!

So, the egg day netted me a 1lb loss, which puts me back in my "window" but I really didn't like it. Nor do I think my body responds well to the egg day. I hope it's got me in ketosis well enough that if I eat cleanly today I will be fine. We'll see. I'd really like some nsa froyo tonight, but I'm not sure if it'll hurt me weight wise. I should keep it clean. Planning:

coffee/cream
chorizo quiche - bfast
P2 chili - lunch
roasted chicken legs - dinner
some yogurt if I get hungry.

What I'm gonna' try this round it not to push myself to eat to a certain calorie level. I need to listen to my body and when it's full, stop. I need to learn about my own hunger. I will still record my food in ******, but am not gonna' push toward a certain number. That hasn't worked well for me in the past. Even on my egg day I was stuffed yesterday and don't want to feel like that. I like the light feeling of P2 - not hungry and not stuffed. Hopefully I can regain that in P3, and enjoy the food part along the way. We'll see.

Off to figure out some history questions for my girls!!

[miamiloca]

Well my "modified" steak CD netted me a 1lb loss~so i guess the almonds i had for lunch didnt hurt me *too* bad. I am still around 212, so i guess my body just likes 212. I am gonna have to accept the fact that im stablizing at 212, and not the 207 i was at LDW. It's only 5 pounds, right? And I brought it on myself by going out to restaurants in my first few p3 days, so thats the facts.

[Viola De Lesseps]

Originally Posted by Sleepy

stayed the same this morning again
im feeling very lazy lately. skipped the gym this morning. think its just the heat and humidity, ive had enough. it wipes me out. will workout and sauna tonite.
have a great day every one

Nice stabilizing! I also skipped my run this morning-- I hit off instead of snooze. :blush:

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

i am bummed. i don't think dh and i can load on the 13th (ds's birthday) i just ordered our pellets last night and i don't think they'll make it to us by fri so we can start dosing on sat. i should have thought it thru better. BUT you can bet we WILL be saving some cake form the birthday!! i'll get tracking info later today so we'll see for sure then when we'll get them.

Enjoy that cake!!

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Moussaka

That sounds delicious!!

Originally Posted by julieboolie

So, the egg day netted me a 1lb loss, which puts me back in my "window" but I really didn't like it. Nor do I think my body responds well to the egg day. I hope it's got me in ketosis well enough that if I eat cleanly today I will be fine. We'll see. I'd really like some nsa froyo tonight, but I'm not sure if it'll hurt me weight wise. I should keep it clean. Planning:

coffee/cream
chorizo quiche - bfast
P2 chili - lunch
roasted chicken legs - dinner
some yogurt if I get hungry.

What I'm gonna' try this round it not to push myself to eat to a certain calorie level. I need to listen to my body and when it's full, stop. I need to learn about my own hunger. I will still record my food in ******, but am not gonna' push toward a certain number. That hasn't worked well for me in the past. Even on my egg day I was stuffed yesterday and don't want to feel like that. I like the light feeling of P2 - not hungry and not stuffed. Hopefully I can regain that in P3, and enjoy the food part along the way. We'll see.

Off to figure out some history questions for my girls!!

Nice loss!! What kind/fat content do you eat on your GY days?

Originally Posted by miamiloca

Well my "modified" steak CD netted me a 1lb loss~so i guess the almonds i had for lunch didnt hurt me *too* bad. I am still around 212, so i guess my body just likes 212. I am gonna have to accept the fact that im stablizing at 212, and not the 207 i was at LDW. It's only 5 pounds, right? And I brought it on myself by going out to restaurants in my first few p3 days, so thats the facts.

Nice!!

Eating clean-ish yesterday netted me a 2# loss! I KNEW a ton of that was water/swelling. I'm moving forward with my steak day today, and hopefully that'll drop me down into my window or closer to it anyway. Despite my failings this P3, I'd really like to stabilize close to my LDW. My plan is to continue on P3 for at least 2 more weeks and see how stable I can get. I also need to solidify my exercise routine...

[amylou]

Down into my window today! Lost 1.2!

Will bbl!

[catkin]

Originally Posted by miamiloca

I did a modified CD today--I also did one yesterday which worked beautifully--lost 3lbs overnight--im a huge water retainer/sweller. I was out all weekend as it was my daughters birthday and overindulged a bit, and restaurant food always-always-always makes me retain water. So today i did another one--except i didnt make it to dinner and ended up eating almonds this afternoon--followed by a big NY strip w a dallop of Marie's Blue cheese, and a plum tomatoe which of course i dipped in the blue cheese! So--this will be an experiment of sorts--ive never done 2 CD's in a row---lets see what the scale says in the AM!

More often than not, even long before hhcg, my meals frequently resemble the many CDs people use--either Protocol or *home made* versions!
I'm a carnivore from the word go! I can go for days eating mostly protein and fat with very little fruit or veggie. Very Low Carb or Zero Carb eating just appeals to me a lot of the time. Then again, sometimes I go on a salad or fruit kick! It's the sugar in my diet that caused me to gain for the most part.

WTG on the losses!

[miamiloca]

Thanks catkin! I am actually the same----i can go days on protein/fats alone and it seems to agree with me nicely. I do enjoy a nice salad with my steak---but it has to be smothered in fats-oils-cheese-u name it! plain lettuce-*blech* I never used salads on P2 becuase i just couldnt stomach the plain-azz lettuce! Walden Farms dressings-as *meh* as they are--saved me! lol

[catkin]

Originally Posted by miamiloca

Thanks catkin! I am actually the same----i can go days on protein/fats alone and it seems to agree with me nicely. I do enjoy a nice salad with my steak---but it has to be smothered in fats-oils-cheese-u name it! plain lettuce-*blech* I never used salads on P2 becuase i just couldnt stomach the plain-azz lettuce! Walden Farms dressings-as *meh* as they are--saved me! lol

You are welcome. When I'm in salad mode I use wither lots of Marie's Blue Cheese or a healthy serving of my own simple EVOO, fresh lemon, Celtic salt and raw garlic dressing
I ate lettuce my first round because I enjoyed a sort of sweet mustard dressing--but I burnt out on it!

I never eat bottled dressings but thought I my get some of the Walden's ginger stuff--most seem to like it. If nothing else I'd maybe use it to marinate chicken.

[catkin]

Originally Posted by amylou

Down into my window today! Lost 1.2!

Will bbl!

[C'Marie]

Well, I'm wondering if I should adjust my LIW. I woke up this morning and realized that I had gotten a colonic right at the end of my P2. Like 2-3 days before the end. I had been sitting right where I am at *now* for several days and then when I got the colonic, I weighed, and it didn't seem like the weight changed very much, like a half pound. That made sense to me, because I thought there couldn't have been that much *in* there since I was doing P2.

The next couple days it dropped some more and then I thought I hit my goal and sat on it for a few days and then got off-but it dropped a little again. So since I didn't log it very well, I'm not sure which day that was and how my weight was affected. I'm wondering if my LIW was artificially low because of the colonic. Every CD I try works minimally to get me to about 1 pound above LIW and then I pop right back up to 2-3 above. I guess it's a good thing I overshot my 100 pound loss goal to 102 - because it looks like I'm giving back the 2 continually!

The other thing I am wondering if is on R5, 4/1-4/25, I ended up 1.2 pounds lower than I am *right now* ---and then I took exactly a 13-day break, gained some towards the end of my break, didn't reload, and then jumped back on 17 days to finish out my 40 injections, and dropped to only 2 pounds lower than my original 23 days netted me - so I'm wondering if the 2nd half of my round, never became my setpoint, but the first part did, instead. The break couldn't be helped, was my daughter's college graduation, parties, relatives, etc - and I had 23 days in before the break but NOT 23 days after. Seems like I did this one other time and was ok but the break wasn't that long.

Either way, I'm going to keep it in line, but I am really wondering if either the colonic or the break changed where my setpoint really is.

It seems like I can eat some carbs, and even a little sugar, and not go very much over this weight I'm at right this minute, or even stay the same unless I do it 2-3 days in a row - or I can CD every other day and stay here also. Weird, I tell ya!

[paulabob]

Hurray for CDs...everyone got a loss this time!

I hate when I do one and nothing...but sometimes I have a 2 day effect with losses as well as gains. Hope I don't rebound up after eating BMR today. Trying to eat super high fat and low carb/moderate protein today.

[Violet_Dream]

Hey Everyone! I'm up .4 this morning and at the top of my window. My husband asked me why I've been doing so many CDs and I explained about the two-pound rule and not to go over that. He asked me how will I ever stabilize if my body never gets used to what I'm eating. I thought of that too and decided to hold off on the exercise for now until I really stabilize.

I'm doing exactly three weeks each of P3 and P4...so my next loading days will be 9/11/11 and 9/12/11 and P2 the next day. I'm looking forward to it and counting the days. I did a 49-day round ths last round and may go for a 60-day one on my next round (only because I'm using hhcg). That's the longest I'd do because I want to give my body a break and give the skin a chance to shrink. In general, I would rather do multiple rounds than stay on one for an extended period of time.

My protein shake for dinner seems to work well for me. Have a great day everyone.

[dbunny]

Doing my first CD today...kinda. Up 1 pound over LDW ~ could it be the bratwurst I had yesterday? It seems I do better with straight up meat, not meat products... although I checked for nitrates and there were none in the ingredients. I drank coffee with cream, had some GY for lunch, and will have a steak an tomato tonight. Hope it gets me down into my window!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by dbunny

Doing my first CD today...kinda. Up 1 pound over LDW ~ could it be the bratwurst I had yesterday? It seems I do better with straight up meat, not meat products... although I checked for nitrates and there were none in the ingredients. I drank coffee with cream, had some GY for lunch, and will have a steak an tomato tonight. Hope it gets me down into my window!

I'm confused . Are you just LDW+1? Then you don't need a CD. If you're LDW+3, then you'll need one, but not if you're just 1lb above LDW. I don't like CD's at all, so avoiding them is my primary goal in P3 . Hope you do well today!!

Violet-not sure about that. I know what you mean, about getting the body used to eating more and will the gaining just keep going if you don't correct it right away? I'm too chicken to find out, but am curious.

Marie-not sure about the "why", but it does seem that your body is gravitating toward a weight it can stabilize at more easily. I gave myself a +3lb goal last P3 since my body had a set point (which it's heading toward again this time, seems to love 155!). Anyway, I'm gonna' fight to try to stay below that 155 set point, but that's also LDW +2 for me, so I need to stay under that if possible anyway now. I wouldn't overdo the CD's, and see where you naturally settle. You've done so well in the past, trust your instinct.

Amy-nice loss!!

Miami and Cat - I'm there w/ you on the carnivore!! I can live on meat and dairy quite happily!

I am so hungry today!! Bummer!! I was really hoping to be deep enough in ketosis that I wouldn't be hungry all the time. I am trying to eat to hunger, and stop before stuffing myself. Hard to do when your tummy's growling! Had cottage cheese, chorizo quiche, chicken leg, and lots of water so far, and I'm still hungry!! Grr!! Gonna' go eat some cucumbers. Hope that helps!

[Violet_Dream]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Violet-not sure about that. I know what you mean, about getting the body used to eating more and will the gaining just keep going if you don't correct it right away? I'm too chicken to find out, but am curious.

My hubby made a good point. I've been over two pounds from my LDW three times and this is only my tenth day of P3 and I've been following the plan. Cheating is not something I've chosen to do since I started this journey because it's not worth it.

Here are the results from my three CDs:

#1 - 2.6 loss
#2 - 1 # loss
#3 - 2.8 loss

I have found that when I have a whey protein shake for dinner (I put cream in there to up the calories) I show a very small gain or a stable weight. I only gained .4 this morning vs. the 2+ #s I seem to gain when I eat a "normal" meal.

[myrna]

Checking in, couple of questions -

1. I think I screwed up, not in a major way, but in a "got to watch the details" way - for dinner I had ground beef, with rotel (spicy) over lettuce. It was so spicy, I could barely eat it - usually I'll tone it down with sour cream, but we were out so I used ricotta instead, thinking, "It's cheese, so it's ok, just don't overdo it." Then as I'm reading the P3 tips thread again, to make out my grocery list, I see a blurb about cheese that says something along the lines of hard cheese is ok, softer cheese, esp the kind from whey, isn't. Yeah, first ingredient in ricotta is whey. (smacks head) Lesson learned.

2. Not so much a question, but a comment. Starting P3 in the middle of a day, not such a good idea for me. I was confused how to eat today, lol. I took my last dose at 3pm Sunday, so technically it's been 48 hrs at dinner time - but what do I eat for lunch? P2? P3? I ended up sleeping late, so just had coffee with a little extra cream and then the beef/rotel salad for dinner. Wasn't sure if I should shoot for upping protein/calories/fat or what. Full-on P3 tomorrow.

3. Can you guys tell me more about salad dressings? I see ppl using ranch/blue cheese in the full-fat versions, but the ones I have in the fridge (just ranch and caesar) have both modified starch/corn syrup/sugar etc in them. What brands are you using? I asked this about mayo, and the response was that regular Hellman's was fine. I have Hellman's light mayo in the fridge and the ingredients again show starch and/or sugar (can't remember) - so I looked up full-fat ingredients online and saw the same thing. Is it one of those try and see how it works for you things, and I'm just over analyzing it? lol Or maybe a smear is ok, but not enough to make chicken salad or deviled eggs?

4. Spaghetti squash, yay or nay? In the first post of the P3 tips thread, I see carrots on the "avoid" and "low-carb/ok" veg list, but it's near the bottom of the "low-carb/ok" list. First, I thought carrots were a definite "no" for P3, right? Well - Spaghetti squash is not far from it (only two spots higher as they're ranked by carb content) so wasn't sure if there's a cut-off line I don't know about or what? Plus, even though it's on the "ok" list, it's a winter squash, which is in the "avoid" category - but beside that it just says "particularly acorn and butternut." I'd really like to be able to have spaghetti squash, lol, so fingers crossed!

Sorry for being neurotic. Just trying to make sure my head is in the right place before I go to the store tomorrow.

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by myrna

Checking in, couple of questions -

1. I think I screwed up, not in a major way, but in a "got to watch the details" way - for dinner I had ground beef, with rotel (spicy) over lettuce. It was so spicy, I could barely eat it - usually I'll tone it down with sour cream, but we were out so I used ricotta instead, thinking, "It's cheese, so it's ok, just don't overdo it." Then as I'm reading the P3 tips thread again, to make out my grocery list, I see a blurb about cheese that says something along the lines of hard cheese is ok, softer cheese, esp the kind from whey, isn't. Yeah, first ingredient in ricotta is whey. (smacks head) Lesson learned.

2. Not so much a question, but a comment. Starting P3 in the middle of a day, not such a good idea for me. I was confused how to eat today, lol. I took my last dose at 3pm Sunday, so technically it's been 48 hrs at dinner time - but what do I eat for lunch? P2? P3? I ended up sleeping late, so just had coffee with a little extra cream and then the beef/rotel salad for dinner. Wasn't sure if I should shoot for upping protein/calories/fat or what. Full-on P3 tomorrow.

3. Can you guys tell me more about salad dressings? I see ppl using ranch/blue cheese in the full-fat versions, but the ones I have in the fridge (just ranch and caesar) have both modified starch/corn syrup/sugar etc in them. What brands are you using? I asked this about mayo, and the response was that regular Hellman's was fine. I have Hellman's light mayo in the fridge and the ingredients again show starch and/or sugar (can't remember) - so I looked up full-fat ingredients online and saw the same thing. Is it one of those try and see how it works for you things, and I'm just over analyzing it? lol Or maybe a smear is ok, but not enough to make chicken salad or deviled eggs?

4. Spaghetti squash, yay or nay? In the first post of the P3 tips thread, I see carrots on the "avoid" and "low-carb/ok" veg list, but it's near the bottom of the "low-carb/ok" list. First, I thought carrots were a definite "no" for P3, right? Well - Spaghetti squash is not far from it (only two spots higher as they're ranked by carb content) so wasn't sure if there's a cut-off line I don't know about or what? Plus, even though it's on the "ok" list, it's a winter squash, which is in the "avoid" category - but beside that it just says "particularly acorn and butternut." I'd really like to be able to have spaghetti squash, lol, so fingers crossed!

Sorry for being neurotic. Just trying to make sure my head is in the right place before I go to the store tomorrow.

to P3!! You'll be fine!! To answer your questions:
1. The ricotta should be fine. I eat cottage cheese all the time and seem to be fine with that too. I think, in general, limiting cheese if you see wild scale jumps is a good idea.
2. you're doing what most of us do, "ramp up", slowly, which is a good idea.
3. I use Ken's dressing since they're low in added stuff. It's hard to find a commercial brand w.o any added stuff. It's a ymmv, hit or miss, see what works for you kind of thing.
4. I'd avoid spag. squash the first week. See how you stabilize. Some of us have wild fluctuations just by upping cals of P2 foods, others seem to go hog wild, cheat even, and have no trouble. Tread lightly and you'll be fine.

The thing I will suggest is to definitely do a CD the very day you see a more than LDW+2 weight. Don't put it off. It can be annoying, but when that water gain turns into something more permanent, it's even MORE annoying!!

Good luck!! Enjoy the new foods, eat as natural and unprocessed as you can get and relax. P3 and P4 are the fun part!!

I'm finally full. I had a small burger and some leftover P2 chili for dinner. Came in at 1800cals for the day, which is about right. First time in 3.5 weeks I've eaten that many calories. We'll see what my body does with all of that!!

[Viola De Lesseps]

myrna~ 1. You should be ok... just don't go overboard with cheese @ first; 2. Ramping up calories gradually is a good idea; 3. I try to limit the amount of crap that is added, but not obsess over it.. Hellman's mayo, Marie's blue cheese, & Hidden Valley ranch; 4. Haven't tried spaghetti squash in P3...

Julie~ what does ymmv mean?

I was super hungry today. The steak I ate weighed nearly a pound, but also had a large bone in it. I had that and a large tomato and was still ravenous. I had some cheese afterwards-- figured I could turn it into a modified steak and cheese day. We shall see what the scale says tomorrow.

[Violet_Dream]

Originally Posted by Viola De Lesseps

what does ymmv mean?

YMMV = your mileage may vary.

[Viola De Lesseps]

Ah! Thanks-- I couldn't figure out what the first 1st m was

[Violet_Dream]

I used to see HTH all the time and finally asked: "here's to health!"

[dbunny]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

I'm confused . Are you just LDW+1? Then you don't need a CD. If you're LDW+3, then you'll need one, but not if you're just 1lb above LDW. I don't like CD's at all, so avoiding them is my primary goal in P3 . Hope you do well today!!

Violet-not sure about that. I know what you mean, about getting the body used to eating more and will the gaining just keep going if you don't correct it right away? I'm too chicken to find out, but am curious.

Marie-not sure about the "why", but it does seem that your body is gravitating toward a weight it can stabilize at more easily. I gave myself a +3lb goal last P3 since my body had a set point (which it's heading toward again this time, seems to love 155!). Anyway, I'm gonna' fight to try to stay below that 155 set point, but that's also LDW +2 for me, so I need to stay under that if possible anyway now. I wouldn't overdo the CD's, and see where you naturally settle. You've done so well in the past, trust your instinct.

Amy-nice loss!!

Miami and Cat - I'm there w/ you on the carnivore!! I can live on meat and dairy quite happily!

I am so hungry today!! Bummer!! I was really hoping to be deep enough in ketosis that I wouldn't be hungry all the time. I am trying to eat to hunger, and stop before stuffing myself. Hard to do when your tummy's growling! Had cottage cheese, chorizo quiche, chicken leg, and lots of water so far, and I'm still hungry!! Grr!! Gonna' go eat some cucumbers. Hope that helps!

Oops Julie~ I am up one more pound to equal 3 pounds over. I was hoping I didn't have to do one, but what the hay, right? Who doesn't like a big ol' steak?

[Violet_Dream]

Originally Posted by dbunny

Oops Julie~ I am up one more pound to equal 3 pounds over. I was hoping I didn't have to do one, but what the hay, right? Who doesn't like a big ol' steak?

Good Luck dbunny. Today is only my tenth day on P3 and I've already done three CDs. I had the best release (2.8#) when I had my one meal in the morning. We were away for the weekend and went out to eat Sunday, the day I was planning on doing a CD and I didn't want to sit there - while my family ate - and not eat. I ordered a seafood omelette with hollandaise sauce,lots of coffee and water and had a great loss. I've found that for now, what works best for me is two "regular" meals and a large protein shake for dinner. I was up .4 this morning, but that's a lot better than the 1-3# fluctuations I've been experiencing.

[dbunny]

Originally Posted by Viola De Lesseps

myrna~ 1. You should be ok... just don't go overboard with cheese @ first; 2. Ramping up calories gradually is a good idea; 3. I try to limit the amount of crap that is added, but not obsess over it.. Hellman's mayo, Marie's blue cheese, & Hidden Valley ranch; 4. Haven't tried spaghetti squash in P3...

Julie~ what does ymmv mean?

I was super hungry today. The steak I ate weighed nearly a pound, but also had a large bone in it. I had that and a large tomato and was still ravenous. I had some cheese afterwards-- figured I could turn it into a modified steak and cheese day. We shall see what the scale says tomorrow.

Mine was modified, too. I am eating that big fat 1 pound ribeye as we speak, but had some GY today, along with coffee and cream. Here's to a whoosh!

[dbunny]

Originally Posted by Violet_Dream

Good Luck dbunny. Today is only my tenth day on P3 and I've already done three CDs. I had the best release (2.8#) when I had my one meal in the morning. We were away for the weekend and went out to eat Sunday, the day I was planning on doing a CD and I didn't want to sit there - while my family ate - and not eat. I ordered a seafood omelette with hollandaise sauce,lots of coffee and water and had a great loss. I've found that for now, what works best for me is two "regular" meals and a large protein shake for dinner. I was up .4 this morning, but that's a lot better than the 1-3# fluctuations I've been experiencing.

Thanks, Violet! We will probably be doing P2 at the same time again..for me, 3 weeks of p3, 3 of p4, then back at it again. My first P3 day was 7/29. I am thinking a 28 day round. Towards the end of my first 40 day round I felt wiped out and still feel a little squishy, if you will. Exercise has not entered my life yet either. I'll get to it eventually!

[Violet_Dream]

Originally Posted by dbunny

Thanks, Violet! We will probably be doing P2 at the same time again..for me, 3 weeks of p3, 3 of p4, then back at it again. My first P3 day was 7/29. I am thinking a 28 day round. Towards the end of my first 40 day round I felt wiped out and still feel a little squishy, if you will. Exercise has not entered my life yet either. I'll get to it eventually!

Same here! I haven't exercised at all in a while and I did a 49-day round. I felt great and could've kept going, but decided it was time to move on. Even though I'm using hhcg, I didn't want to go too much past forty days. Besides, they say forty days for a reason. My first day of P3 was 7/31 and my first loading day will be 9/11 (after three weeks of P3 and three weeks of P4). I want the stabilizing to begin already. hhmmpph...

I have fifty-seven pounds to get to goal and I'm figuring two more rounds. I see you and I are both 5'10" so we have a great advantage. I can wear a size 10 when I'm 170 (I got down to that weight in 2002 when I did Weight Watchers).

[dbunny]

Originally Posted by Violet_Dream

Same here! I haven't exercised at all in a while and I did a 49-day round. I felt great and could've kept going, but decided it was time to move on. Even though I'm using hhcg, I didn't want to go too much past forty days. Besides, they say forty days for a reason. My first day of P3 was 7/31 and my first loading day will be 9/11 (after three weeks of P3 and three weeks of P4). I want the stabilizing to begin already. hhmmpph...

I have fifty-seven pounds to get to goal and I'm figuring two more rounds. I see you and I are both 5'10" so we have a great advantage. I can wear a size 10 when I'm 170 (I got down to that weight in 2002 when I did Weight Watchers).

We can hide it everywhere but the mirror, right? I am a 10 when I am that weight too, but I am not built slender by any means so your goal would be too small for me. I have a friend that is 5' 8" and is like a bird at 115 pounds. Chalk it up to my strapping, long legged Nordic family... I have shoulders wider than most men at any weight . I am feeling that my goal is somewhere in the low 160's, high 150's. I will do 2 rounds as well to make sure it sticks, KWIM?