HCG with EFGT meals - Page 4

metqa · 08-21-2011, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fozzie99

I HATE this WoE!!!! I just ate brunch I cooked 1.25 cups of broccoli and 7 oz. of smoked roast pork. I could only eat 2oz of the pork and less than .75 cup of the broccoli plus ice tea(less than 600cals). I desire more but am full

.

Wow, you can't eat "enough"?! Many folks would be jealous!

fozzie99 · 08-21-2011, 09:34 AM

I feel deprived!!! I like to eat!!!!!

metqa · 08-21-2011, 09:51 AM

Well, in the least, you aren't feeling deprived cause you feel hungry!

fozzie99 · 08-22-2011, 12:59 PM

Day 22 weight 338.4 GRR. 1080cals 67% 30% 3% FPC.
Bye for now.

fozzie99 · 08-22-2011, 02:57 PM

Sunday was my last dose of HCG. I'm going to stay off it until next monday I think and see how I feel this week. I'll mix on friday to get ready for monday.

shelbyla · 08-22-2011, 03:42 PM

Why are you going off for a week then starting back? Just curious...

metqa · 08-22-2011, 03:53 PM

Taking an interruption, Eh? Gonna see if the hunger comes back at those ratios?

fozzie99 · 08-22-2011, 05:19 PM

That's exactly right Metga. Part of my reason for doing this experiment was to find out how much effect the HCg has on my hunger. I want to determine if the EFGT WoE is affecting my hunger. I also wanted to see how much effect my eating off protocol has on my weight loss.

fozzie99 · 08-23-2011, 12:06 PM

Day 23 weight 338.4 1278cals 72% 24% 3% FPC. Ate my whole lunch today at 8:30am. normal time but was famished at 2:30pm. and ate another lunch for dinner. It's going to be a long day.

fozzie99 · 08-24-2011, 12:18 PM

Day 24 weight 336.4 1313cals 70% 24% 6% FPC. Day 23 wasn't near as bad as I thought it might be. Wasn't hungry after 2:30pm. until bed.

Angeleyz777 · 08-24-2011, 04:37 PM

Wow, that was an excellent loss! When you wrote that you were famished, I figured you would have a good loss the next day. Keep going, you're doing great!

Cruzcrzy · 08-24-2011, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fozzie99

Day 24 weight 336.4 1313cals 70% 24% 6% FPC. Day 23 wasn't near as bad as I thought it might be. Wasn't hungry after 2:30pm. until bed.

Are you still not dosing with the hcg? Thanks for sharing with us! Wishing you continued success.

fozzie99 · 08-25-2011, 01:03 PM

Day 25 weight 334.8

1209cals 74% 19% 7% FPC. Ate lunch at 8:30 am. ate the whole thing mostly I split it up....save some for later. Got home from work at 2:45pm drank large ice tea. Around 3:30 I got hungry and made up some broccoli with butter and garlic and roast pork....was great. Hope it holds till bed.
I'm not dosing with HCG will not till monday or maybe longer. I'm worried about the hunger....losses are still there with just EFGT but without the HCG the hunger seems to be comming back.

metqa · 08-25-2011, 02:12 PM

It will be interesting to see how many days it takes for the hunger to come back fully.

fozzie99 · 08-25-2011, 03:56 PM

In some ways I'm really hoping it doesn't.....even on the HCG i've had days with a little more or less hunger. If it comes back in full then I know the HCG is having a definite effect on my fat cells.

Cruzcrzy · 08-25-2011, 04:37 PM

This is R2P3D6 for me, and I feel like my hunger came back pretty quickly. It was the same for me during the first round P3. I stablized great R1, and so far, the same is true for this round. During the first round P3 I did not eat to BMR and continued to lose a bit. I was fully satisfied but was only averaging about 1100-1200 calories. This round I am pushing the envelope and am averaging around 2000. So far so good. I am eating VERY high fat, higher protein, low carb and loving it!

fozzie99 · 08-26-2011, 02:55 AM

Day 26 weight 335.8 GRR... 1610cals 70% 24% 6% FPC.

fozzie99 · 08-27-2011, 03:42 AM

Day 27 weight 334.4 2031cals

79% 18% 3% FPC. I was quite hungy at times all day. I think at this time I need to start HCG again.

paulabob · 08-27-2011, 05:09 AM

Congrats on the weight loss this week btw - you are definitely losing great!

fozzie99 · 08-27-2011, 12:41 PM

I really appreciate all the the support I don't feel like I'm doing that well right now. I'm going to write this weekend off as to dieting call it loading (which I think is a bad thing to do now I mean LOADING) or whatever. My wif-ee's brother came into town to visit 8 hour drive for a 7 hour visit..... We went out to breakfast and I ate on plan but gi-normas portions. We then went to to the festival. I had an italian sausage with onions and peppers...no problem except for the mead I had with it...2 glasses. On the way home My wife (wif-ee) wanted some wine coolers she's on vcation this weekend through monday. I got myself something also (always a bad idea). Starting next week I'm going to start HCG again. I will keep reporting. I'm starting to come to some conclusions concerning HCG and EFGT....I will report my conclusions when I see them firm up. We really need some more people to try some variation on accepted theory for HCG dieting I think we can make it a lot easier on the people who really want to work the plan.

fozzie99 · 08-27-2011, 01:12 PM

I average 68% fat usually 70% 0r 72% fat. I just did my lipid panel it is better than my last test when I was half way through my first round of HCG
(with low fat)!!! I get so upset when I see low fat low cal is the way to go....when 20+ years of low fat has left us fatter than ever!

Cruzcrzy · 08-27-2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fozzie99

I average 68% fat usually 70% 0r 72% fat. I just did my lipid panel it is better than my last test when I was half way through my first round of HCG
(with low fat)!!! I get so upset when I see low fat low cal is the way to go....when 20+ years of low fat has left us fatter than ever!

I agree! Looking forward to hearing more from you.

metqa · 08-27-2011, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fozzie99

I really appreciate all the the support I don't feel like I'm doing that well right now. I'm going to write this weekend off as to dieting call it loading (which I think is a bad thing to do now I mean LOADING) or whatever. My wif-ee's brother came into town to visit 8 hour drive for a 7 hour visit..... We went out to breakfast and I ate on plan but gi-normas portions. We then went to to the festival. I had an italian sausage with onions and peppers...no problem except for the mead I had with it...2 glasses. On the way home My wife (wif-ee) wanted some wine coolers she's on vcation this weekend through monday. I got myself something also (always a bad idea). Starting next week I'm going to start HCG again. I will keep reporting. I'm starting to come to some conclusions concerning HCG and EFGT....I will report my conclusions when I see them firm up. We really need some more people to try some variation on accepted theory for HCG dieting I think we can make it a lot easier on the people who really want to work the plan.

I'm hoping to be one of those variation people. I'm not so bold as to go as high calories has you have with HCG but I've lost pretty okay with 650 calorie average ( allowable 700cal) of which 89g of that is protein. Still haven't the courage to try higher fat though. I have another round or two to do, so maybe I'll experiment with the one after this next one, when I'm closer to goal and have less to lose ( weight and failure)

fozzie99 · 08-28-2011, 05:07 AM

Day 28 W 339.8 3320cals 57% 10% 14% 20% FPCA. 3320cals is still not my BMR! The weight gain is all water.....will come off quickly.

dazygyrl · 08-28-2011, 05:16 AM

FPCA

A = ??

fozzie99 · 08-28-2011, 05:34 AM

I knew you were going to say that. A= ALCOHOL I'm ashamed to say.

dazygyrl · 08-28-2011, 05:53 AM

heehee....i kinda thought that, but thought i'd ask anyway.

cathiasplace · 08-28-2011, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fozzie99

I really appreciate all the the support I don't feel like I'm doing that well right now. I'm going to write this weekend off as to dieting call it loading (which I think is a bad thing to do now I mean LOADING) or whatever. My wif-ee's brother came into town to visit 8 hour drive for a 7 hour visit..... We went out to breakfast and I ate on plan but gi-normas portions. We then went to to the festival. I had an italian sausage with onions and peppers...no problem except for the mead I had with it...2 glasses. On the way home My wife (wif-ee) wanted some wine coolers she's on vcation this weekend through monday. I got myself something also (always a bad idea). Starting next week I'm going to start HCG again. I will keep reporting. I'm starting to come to some conclusions concerning HCG and EFGT....I will report my conclusions when I see them firm up. We really need some more people to try some variation on accepted theory for HCG dieting I think we can make it a lot easier on the people who really want to work the plan.

I'm going to be trying a variation as well. I did a few days on the OWL diet, then caught a bug and have been down and out these past 3 weeks. Finally finished up my medication yesterday, so ready to start HCG variation tomorrow.

I'll LYK how it goes after a week or so.

fozzie99 · 08-28-2011, 07:58 AM

All information is appreciated and power. Please inform me so I can subscribe to your thread.
The scary part of yesterday is how easy it was to go off plan and blowup the day.

fozzie99 · 08-28-2011, 01:03 PM

Metga as you approach goal looses slow some.....when you reach goal you may need to change your WoE. Please read the EFGT material especially Why We Get Fat(and what we can do about it) It goes much further than Atkins as to causes and cures to our problem. Even people who are not metabolicly impared like us need to be careful.

08-24-2011, 12:18 PM	#100
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	Day 24 weight 336.4 1313cals 70% 24% 6% FPC. Day 23 wasn't near as bad as I thought it might be. Wasn't hungry after 2:30pm. until bed. Last edited by fozzie99; 08-24-2011 at 12:34 PM.. Reason: content

08-25-2011, 01:03 PM	#103
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals Day 25 weight 334.8 1209cals 74% 19% 7% FPC. Ate lunch at 8:30 am. ate the whole thing mostly I split it up....save some for later. Got home from work at 2:45pm drank large ice tea. Around 3:30 I got hungry and made up some broccoli with butter and garlic and roast pork....was great. Hope it holds till bed. I'm not dosing with HCG will not till monday or maybe longer. I'm worried about the hunger....losses are still there with just EFGT but without the HCG the hunger seems to be comming back. __________________ Steve C. 6' 0" Age 56. Punk kid in an old farts body! weight 43/256 of a ton.

08-27-2011, 03:42 AM	#108
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals Day 27 weight 334.4 2031cals 79% 18% 3% FPC. I was quite hungy at times all day. I think at this time I need to start HCG again.

08-27-2011, 12:41 PM	#110
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals I really appreciate all the the support I don't feel like I'm doing that well right now. I'm going to write this weekend off as to dieting call it loading (which I think is a bad thing to do now I mean LOADING) or whatever. My wif-ee's brother came into town to visit 8 hour drive for a 7 hour visit..... We went out to breakfast and I ate on plan but gi-normas portions. We then went to to the festival. I had an italian sausage with onions and peppers...no problem except for the mead I had with it...2 glasses. On the way home My wife (wif-ee) wanted some wine coolers she's on vcation this weekend through monday. I got myself something also (always a bad idea). Starting next week I'm going to start HCG again. I will keep reporting. I'm starting to come to some conclusions concerning HCG and EFGT....I will report my conclusions when I see them firm up. We really need some more people to try some variation on accepted theory for HCG dieting I think we can make it a lot easier on the people who really want to work the plan.

08-27-2011, 01:12 PM	#111
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals I average 68% fat usually 70% 0r 72% fat. I just did my lipid panel it is better than my last test when I was half way through my first round of HCG (with low fat)!!! I get so upset when I see low fat low cal is the way to go....when 20+ years of low fat has left us fatter than ever!

08-21-2011, 09:34 AM	#92
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	I feel deprived!!! I like to eat!!!!!

08-21-2011, 09:51 AM	#93
metqa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 11,497 Gallery: metqa Stats: 134/134/122 WOE: Indecisive LOL Start Date: November 2003	Well, in the least, you aren't feeling deprived cause you feel hungry!

08-22-2011, 12:59 PM	#94
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	Day 22 weight 338.4 GRR. 1080cals 67% 30% 3% FPC. Bye for now.

08-22-2011, 02:57 PM	#95
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	Sunday was my last dose of HCG. I'm going to stay off it until next monday I think and see how I feel this week. I'll mix on friday to get ready for monday.

08-22-2011, 03:42 PM	#96
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	Why are you going off for a week then starting back? Just curious...

08-22-2011, 03:53 PM	#97
metqa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 11,497 Gallery: metqa Stats: 134/134/122 WOE: Indecisive LOL Start Date: November 2003	Taking an interruption, Eh? Gonna see if the hunger comes back at those ratios?

08-22-2011, 05:19 PM	#98
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	That's exactly right Metga. Part of my reason for doing this experiment was to find out how much effect the HCg has on my hunger. I want to determine if the EFGT WoE is affecting my hunger. I also wanted to see how much effect my eating off protocol has on my weight loss.

08-23-2011, 12:06 PM	#99
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	Day 23 weight 338.4 1278cals 72% 24% 3% FPC. Ate my whole lunch today at 8:30am. normal time but was famished at 2:30pm. and ate another lunch for dinner. It's going to be a long day.

08-24-2011, 04:37 PM	#101
Angeleyz777 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 36 Gallery: Angeleyz777 Stats: 185.6/167.6/150 WOE: HCG RX-Short Round Start Date: P3 start 10-19-11	Wow, that was an excellent loss! When you wrote that you were famished, I figured you would have a good loss the next day. Keep going, you're doing great!

08-25-2011, 02:12 PM	#104
metqa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 11,497 Gallery: metqa Stats: 134/134/122 WOE: Indecisive LOL Start Date: November 2003	It will be interesting to see how many days it takes for the hunger to come back fully.

08-25-2011, 03:56 PM	#105
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	In some ways I'm really hoping it doesn't.....even on the HCG i've had days with a little more or less hunger. If it comes back in full then I know the HCG is having a definite effect on my fat cells.

08-25-2011, 04:37 PM	#106
Cruzcrzy Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 9,458 Gallery: Cruzcrzy Stats: 183/129/128-131(5'5, FABULOUS 50!!)	This is R2P3D6 for me, and I feel like my hunger came back pretty quickly. It was the same for me during the first round P3. I stablized great R1, and so far, the same is true for this round. During the first round P3 I did not eat to BMR and continued to lose a bit. I was fully satisfied but was only averaging about 1100-1200 calories. This round I am pushing the envelope and am averaging around 2000. So far so good. I am eating VERY high fat, higher protein, low carb and loving it!

08-26-2011, 02:55 AM	#107
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	Day 26 weight 335.8 GRR... 1610cals 70% 24% 6% FPC.

08-27-2011, 05:09 AM	#109
paulabob Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 6,545 Gallery: paulabob Stats: 204/124.6/110 49%/27.4%/20% 5'2" WOE: Atkins/hHcg/Optimal whatever works Start Date: restart March '10	Congrats on the weight loss this week btw - you are definitely losing great!

08-28-2011, 05:07 AM	#114
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	Day 28 W 339.8 3320cals 57% 10% 14% 20% FPCA. 3320cals is still not my BMR! The weight gain is all water.....will come off quickly.

08-28-2011, 05:16 AM	#115
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,538 Gallery: dazygyrl	FPCA A = ??

08-28-2011, 05:34 AM	#116
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	I knew you were going to say that. A= ALCOHOL I'm ashamed to say.

08-28-2011, 05:53 AM	#117
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,538 Gallery: dazygyrl	heehee....i kinda thought that, but thought i'd ask anyway.

08-28-2011, 07:58 AM	#119
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	All information is appreciated and power. Please inform me so I can subscribe to your thread. The scary part of yesterday is how easy it was to go off plan and blowup the day.

08-28-2011, 01:03 PM	#120
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 985 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	Metga as you approach goal looses slow some.....when you reach goal you may need to change your WoE. Please read the EFGT material especially Why We Get Fat(and what we can do about it) It goes much further than Atkins as to causes and cures to our problem. Even people who are not metabolicly impared like us need to be careful.

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