HCG with EFGT meals - Page 3

paulabob · 08-15-2011, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fozzie99

I don't particularly restrict salt though I don't use a lot and no processed food. I think it's probably mostly water.... it will pass. A lot of people are looking for a 2lb change as a warning. Unless you have a laboratory scale you can't even be sure of a change that small day to day.

Yes, probably just a temp fluctuation. I have them but HATE them!

Zbunny · 08-15-2011, 01:42 PM

Hi Fozzie. So now that you've been at this for 15 days, how much have you lost so far? I went back to the beginning of the thread, but I didn't see your starting weight and I wasn't sure which weights were loading days, etc. How do you feel overall? Does it seem like this formula is working for you? Wishing you the best in your experiment!

fozzie99 · 08-15-2011, 02:30 PM

After loading I was at 352.8 as of yesterday 336.8 this morning 340.4 probably water up 3lbs in one day pretty much has to be water. Feel fine I'm losing at about the same rate as my first 2 rounds of HCG pretty much on protocol.

cathiasplace · 08-15-2011, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fozzie99

After loading I was at 352.8 as of yesterday 336.8 this morning 340.4 probably water up 3lbs in one day pretty much has to be water. Feel fine I'm losing at about the same rate as my first 2 rounds of HCG pretty much on protocol.

That's great!

Zbunny · 08-15-2011, 04:36 PM

That's excellent, Fozzie!

metqa · 08-15-2011, 06:36 PM

16lbs in 16 days is just about as much as you can ask for HCG protocol while following Pounds and Inches VLCD. this is incredible and wonderful.

Sorry, I've been lurking, but I just had to shout out and congratulate you on your plan working so well for you!

fozzie99 · 08-16-2011, 02:47 AM

Day 16 weight 338.4 1016cals (wasn't hungry) 77% 16% 7% FPC.
Thanks for all the support!! I really look foward to seeing responses to this topic. I'm eating a lot! Maybe sometimes when not hungry

. This level of calories is easy to maintain. I'm not sure how much role the HCG is playing. I have about 10 days of injections left in this round (I go by how much is left of my 5000iu. vial). I'm going to take 2 days off and eat the same way then start another round. I've never noticed any signs of immunuity before and I'm impatient.

fozzie99 · 08-17-2011, 03:03 AM

DAY 17 weight 338.2

1668cals 77% 19% 4% FPC
BYE.

fozzie99 · 08-18-2011, 02:46 AM

Day 17 weight 338.8 2131cals 77% 21% 5% FPC.
Bye

fozzie99 · 08-19-2011, 04:32 AM

Day 18 weight 339.2

926cals 68% 27% 5% FPC.
Bye

paulabob · 08-19-2011, 04:56 AM

It looks like you are into your first stall. Mine tend to last 4-5 days...hope it starts moving past that number soon!

fozzie99 · 08-19-2011, 08:30 AM

Yeah....me to. I "felt" lighter today until I hit the scale! I stayed in the 340's for what seemed like forever also.

fozzie99 · 08-20-2011, 04:50 AM

Day 19 weight 336.8 down 2.4 maybe

1168cals 73% 23% 4% FPC.
Bye for now.

paulabob · 08-20-2011, 05:12 AM

Yeah to moving past a stall!

metqa · 08-20-2011, 09:13 AM

I love to read this thread. it's so promising!! Thank You Fozzie!

Lbibclc · 08-20-2011, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fozzie99

Day 19 weight 336.8 down 2.4 maybe

1168cals 73% 23% 4% FPC.
Bye for now.

Good job! Hang in there! You are giving us a lot of knowledge about how HCG and EFGT WOE will work. Thanks.

fozzie99 · 08-20-2011, 10:04 AM

I'm obviously an idiot I can't even count to 20!!! Doubled up Day 17 proper nutrition numbers just wrong day count.
THIS IS DAY #20 DUH! weight 336.8 down 2.4lbs maybe. 73% 23% 4% FPC.

I think I hate you guys.......somebody on the forums told me about cauliflower potatoes.....I love them.....Love you guys to!!!!!. Cauliflower is not the cheapest of veggies here.

Cruzcrzy · 08-20-2011, 10:08 AM

Congratulations on your success

I've also been curiously watching this thread. I have to wonder as women if we would be able to get away with the higher calorie/higher fat, while on hhcg. I am skeptical

dazygyrl · 08-20-2011, 10:10 AM

i would still love to see a days menu, if you wouldn't mind sharing one.

congrats on your losses!

fozzie99 · 08-20-2011, 10:48 AM

Ok....Daily menu Spread out over the course of the day from 4am. to 9pm.
Breakfast LARGE CUP of coffee with 2oz. of heavy cream.
3-5 hours later depending entirely on hunger.
Lunch .5-1.5 cups of either green beans or cauliflower "potatoes" or broccoli plus 3-5oz. of smoked roast pork (smoked by my own little hands).
4-6 hours later, the later the better but dependant on hunger.
The rest of lunch because sometimes I don't finish it or another copy of lunch. I also drink at least a half gallon of grape kool aid (it's Da' bomb the best flavor) and a LOT of iced tea with lemon.
I sometimes make an Italian sausage cream cheese quiche for lunch and or dinner. (I hate to keep the fixins around because of the temptation to pig on it) I sometimes make 3 egg egg salad for a meal with 1 Tbsp of mayo (homemade) per egg. I sometime do tuna salad or mackeral salad also.If I MUST "cheat" before bed I'll get an ounce or 2 of pork to nibble.
Depending on hunger and or compulsion (brain hunger or brain fart as you please) I consume between 850 and 2100 cals a day average 1500 now for 3 weeks. For sweets I make jello mousse or chocolate mousse. I have a high fat high cal version and a low fat low cal but more carb version.
Flame suit on.

dazygyrl · 08-20-2011, 11:03 AM

THANK YOU! now i can visualize better your % breakdown, with what you are eating.

AAAND sin you mentioned it

how/what do you season your homemade mayo with? i want to make my own, but am at al loss as to how to season it to taste similar to say, hellmann's?

metqa · 08-20-2011, 12:02 PM

Seriously dude on the cauliflower? Buy it frozen, cuts the cost way down.

fozzie99 · 08-20-2011, 12:16 PM

I've tried my 2 main stores and neither carries any thing but fresh.
I like Hellman's mayo but like to experiment, I've used coconut oil and lemon juice also gasp! corn oil and canola oil. Use pepper and pepper mixes. I've also made a "sweet mayo" There are a lot of recipes on the net and on the forums.
Thank you all for your support and interest it keeps me going.

dazygyrl · 08-20-2011, 12:42 PM

thanks!

i want to make mine with a mix of mac nut oil and MCT oil, which is essentialy liquid coconut oil.

cathiasplace · 08-20-2011, 01:26 PM

I find your experiment truly interesting. Do you think it's the HCG helping you to lose or just the decrease in calories?

Either way, you're doing a great job!

fozzie99 · 08-20-2011, 02:41 PM

I started this whole thing with 2 rounds of HCG following protocol fairly closely with a few differences. I've done a lot of research on how we process food and store and release fat. It started me thinking that the HCG protocol wasn't as efficient at fat loss as it could be and maybe wasn't doing what people say it was. I'm from misery (missouri) I have to be shown. I started to have doubts. I started doing EFGT for 2 weeks to see if I could lose on it without HCG. I ate 1000-1500cals a day but had pangs which I never had on HCG. I decided to combine the 2. HCG releases fat from stores adding a little more from outside shouldn't stop the losses fat is fat. I'm at 3 weeks and losing at about the same rate as I did on HCG alone. When I finish this round I'm going to do 2 or 3 days of straight EFGT to see if the pangs are gone. Will report. So to answer your question. I don't know but I will find out.

Lbibclc · 08-20-2011, 02:59 PM

Yeah Missouri. Just don't judge us by Truck Stop Missouri, lol.

fozzie99 · 08-21-2011, 04:23 AM

Day 21 weight 338.6 (I so hate my scale) 1047cals 62% 36% 2% FPC.

fozzie99 · 08-21-2011, 06:36 AM

I HATE this WoE!!!! I just ate brunch I cooked 1.25 cups of broccoli and 7 oz. of smoked roast pork. I could only eat 2oz of the pork and less than .75 cup of the broccoli plus ice tea(less than 600cals). I desire more but am full

.

Cruzcrzy · 08-21-2011, 06:40 AM

Edited due to misreading your post. I thought you were saying it wasn't enough, so I was encouraging you to hang in there, lol. Instead you were fully satisfied, yeah for you!!

08-15-2011, 02:30 PM	#63
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals After loading I was at 352.8 as of yesterday 336.8 this morning 340.4 probably water up 3lbs in one day pretty much has to be water. Feel fine I'm losing at about the same rate as my first 2 rounds of HCG pretty much on protocol.

08-16-2011, 02:47 AM	#67
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals Day 16 weight 338.4 1016cals (wasn't hungry) 77% 16% 7% FPC. Thanks for all the support!! I really look foward to seeing responses to this topic. I'm eating a lot! Maybe sometimes when not hungry. This level of calories is easy to maintain. I'm not sure how much role the HCG is playing. I have about 10 days of injections left in this round (I go by how much is left of my 5000iu. vial). I'm going to take 2 days off and eat the same way then start another round. I've never noticed any signs of immunuity before and I'm impatient. __________________ Steve C. 6' 0" Age 56. Punk kid in an old farts body! weight 43/256 of a ton.

08-17-2011, 03:03 AM	#68
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals DAY 17 weight 338.2 1668cals 77% 19% 4% FPC BYE.

08-19-2011, 04:32 AM	#70
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals Day 18 weight 339.2 926cals 68% 27% 5% FPC. Bye

08-20-2011, 04:50 AM	#73
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals Day 19 weight 336.8 down 2.4 maybe 1168cals 73% 23% 4% FPC. Bye for now.

08-15-2011, 01:42 PM	#62
Zbunny Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell Posts: 2,930 Gallery: Zbunny WOE: hhcg Start Date: P2 Start 1/2/2012	Hi Fozzie. So now that you've been at this for 15 days, how much have you lost so far? I went back to the beginning of the thread, but I didn't see your starting weight and I wasn't sure which weights were loading days, etc. How do you feel overall? Does it seem like this formula is working for you? Wishing you the best in your experiment!

08-15-2011, 04:36 PM	#65
Zbunny Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell Posts: 2,930 Gallery: Zbunny WOE: hhcg Start Date: P2 Start 1/2/2012	That's excellent, Fozzie!

08-15-2011, 06:36 PM	#66
metqa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 11,498 Gallery: metqa Stats: 134/134/122 WOE: Indecisive LOL Start Date: November 2003	16lbs in 16 days is just about as much as you can ask for HCG protocol while following Pounds and Inches VLCD. this is incredible and wonderful. Sorry, I've been lurking, but I just had to shout out and congratulate you on your plan working so well for you!

08-18-2011, 02:46 AM	#69
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	Day 17 weight 338.8 2131cals 77% 21% 5% FPC. Bye

08-19-2011, 04:56 AM	#71
paulabob Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 6,545 Gallery: paulabob Stats: 204/124.6/110 49%/27.4%/20% 5'2" WOE: Atkins/hHcg/Optimal whatever works Start Date: restart March '10	It looks like you are into your first stall. Mine tend to last 4-5 days...hope it starts moving past that number soon!

08-19-2011, 08:30 AM	#72
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	Yeah....me to. I "felt" lighter today until I hit the scale! I stayed in the 340's for what seemed like forever also.

08-20-2011, 05:12 AM	#74
paulabob Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 6,545 Gallery: paulabob Stats: 204/124.6/110 49%/27.4%/20% 5'2" WOE: Atkins/hHcg/Optimal whatever works Start Date: restart March '10	Yeah to moving past a stall!

08-20-2011, 09:13 AM	#75
metqa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 11,498 Gallery: metqa Stats: 134/134/122 WOE: Indecisive LOL Start Date: November 2003	I love to read this thread. it's so promising!! Thank You Fozzie!

08-20-2011, 10:04 AM	#77
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals I'm obviously an idiot I can't even count to 20!!! Doubled up Day 17 proper nutrition numbers just wrong day count. THIS IS DAY #20 DUH! weight 336.8 down 2.4lbs maybe. 73% 23% 4% FPC. I think I hate you guys.......somebody on the forums told me about cauliflower potatoes.....I love them.....Love you guys to!!!!!. Cauliflower is not the cheapest of veggies here. Last edited by fozzie99; 08-20-2011 at 11:02 AM.. Reason: content grammer

08-20-2011, 10:08 AM	#78
Cruzcrzy Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 9,404 Gallery: Cruzcrzy Stats: 183/129/128-131(5'5, FABULOUS 50!!)	Congratulations on your success I've also been curiously watching this thread. I have to wonder as women if we would be able to get away with the higher calorie/higher fat, while on hhcg. I am skeptical

08-20-2011, 10:10 AM	#79
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,517 Gallery: dazygyrl	i would still love to see a days menu, if you wouldn't mind sharing one. congrats on your losses!

08-20-2011, 10:48 AM	#80
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals Ok....Daily menu Spread out over the course of the day from 4am. to 9pm. Breakfast LARGE CUP of coffee with 2oz. of heavy cream. 3-5 hours later depending entirely on hunger. Lunch .5-1.5 cups of either green beans or cauliflower "potatoes" or broccoli plus 3-5oz. of smoked roast pork (smoked by my own little hands). 4-6 hours later, the later the better but dependant on hunger. The rest of lunch because sometimes I don't finish it or another copy of lunch. I also drink at least a half gallon of grape kool aid (it's Da' bomb the best flavor) and a LOT of iced tea with lemon. I sometimes make an Italian sausage cream cheese quiche for lunch and or dinner. (I hate to keep the fixins around because of the temptation to pig on it) I sometimes make 3 egg egg salad for a meal with 1 Tbsp of mayo (homemade) per egg. I sometime do tuna salad or mackeral salad also.If I MUST "cheat" before bed I'll get an ounce or 2 of pork to nibble. Depending on hunger and or compulsion (brain hunger or brain fart as you please) I consume between 850 and 2100 cals a day average 1500 now for 3 weeks. For sweets I make jello mousse or chocolate mousse. I have a high fat high cal version and a low fat low cal but more carb version. Flame suit on. Last edited by fozzie99; 08-20-2011 at 10:56 AM.. Reason: spelling

08-20-2011, 11:03 AM	#81
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,517 Gallery: dazygyrl	THANK YOU! now i can visualize better your % breakdown, with what you are eating. AAAND sin you mentioned it how/what do you season your homemade mayo with? i want to make my own, but am at al loss as to how to season it to taste similar to say, hellmann's?

08-20-2011, 12:02 PM	#82
metqa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 11,498 Gallery: metqa Stats: 134/134/122 WOE: Indecisive LOL Start Date: November 2003	Seriously dude on the cauliflower? Buy it frozen, cuts the cost way down.

08-20-2011, 12:16 PM	#83
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	I've tried my 2 main stores and neither carries any thing but fresh. I like Hellman's mayo but like to experiment, I've used coconut oil and lemon juice also gasp! corn oil and canola oil. Use pepper and pepper mixes. I've also made a "sweet mayo" There are a lot of recipes on the net and on the forums. Thank you all for your support and interest it keeps me going.

08-20-2011, 12:42 PM	#84
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,517 Gallery: dazygyrl	thanks! i want to make mine with a mix of mac nut oil and MCT oil, which is essentialy liquid coconut oil.

08-20-2011, 01:26 PM	#85
cathiasplace Junior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 12 Gallery: cathiasplace Stats: 250/245/160 WOE: hHcg Start Date: 8/15/11	I find your experiment truly interesting. Do you think it's the HCG helping you to lose or just the decrease in calories? Either way, you're doing a great job!

08-20-2011, 02:41 PM	#86
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals I started this whole thing with 2 rounds of HCG following protocol fairly closely with a few differences. I've done a lot of research on how we process food and store and release fat. It started me thinking that the HCG protocol wasn't as efficient at fat loss as it could be and maybe wasn't doing what people say it was. I'm from misery (missouri) I have to be shown. I started to have doubts. I started doing EFGT for 2 weeks to see if I could lose on it without HCG. I ate 1000-1500cals a day but had pangs which I never had on HCG. I decided to combine the 2. HCG releases fat from stores adding a little more from outside shouldn't stop the losses fat is fat. I'm at 3 weeks and losing at about the same rate as I did on HCG alone. When I finish this round I'm going to do 2 or 3 days of straight EFGT to see if the pangs are gone. Will report. So to answer your question. I don't know but I will find out.

08-20-2011, 02:59 PM	#87
Lbibclc Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 428 Gallery: Lbibclc Stats: 231.8/132 54/5-6 WOE: Primal/HHCG Start Date: August 2009	Yeah Missouri. Just don't judge us by Truck Stop Missouri, lol.

08-21-2011, 04:23 AM	#88
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals Day 21 weight 338.6 (I so hate my scale) 1047cals 62% 36% 2% FPC.

08-21-2011, 06:36 AM	#89
fozzie99 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 983 Gallery: fozzie99 Stats: 410/298/200 6' 0" 57 years old WOE: HCG with EFGT meals now just EFGT low cal Start Date: 7/23/2011	HCG with EFGT meals I HATE this WoE!!!! I just ate brunch I cooked 1.25 cups of broccoli and 7 oz. of smoked roast pork. I could only eat 2oz of the pork and less than .75 cup of the broccoli plus ice tea(less than 600cals). I desire more but am full. Last edited by fozzie99; 08-21-2011 at 06:41 AM.. Reason: content

08-21-2011, 06:40 AM	#90
Cruzcrzy Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 9,404 Gallery: Cruzcrzy Stats: 183/129/128-131(5'5, FABULOUS 50!!)	Edited due to misreading your post. I thought you were saying it wasn't enough, so I was encouraging you to hang in there, lol. Instead you were fully satisfied, yeah for you!! Last edited by Cruzcrzy; 08-21-2011 at 07:18 AM..

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