Are losses in P2W3 better than in P2W2?

[Balance101]

I've read in a couple of places that week 3 losses are usually better than week 2 losses. Has this been true for you?

[LilacBruze]

Not for me. But my Week 6 loss was the best I had. Go figure!

[Balance101]

Something to look forward to at least... Did you do anything differently during that week?

[LilacBruze]

No, I didn't. That is a big difference - your stats for week 1 compared to week 2. Did you do something different in week 2?

[Balance101]

No, it was TOM week though. Not sure if that's the difference.

[LilacBruze]

I'd go with that!

[Millenia98]

Yes, that was the case for me. And while I was going through my first round, I like you, read it in several places.

My first round (I was about your weight), was something like:
8lbs on week 1, 2lbs on week 2, then 4lbs on week 3 and 1 or 2 on the last week because I was doing the 23 day RX drops and my round was over.

But I was not sticking exactly to protocol because I didn't like some things. This round has incredible results because I'm sticking more to protocol and doing more cardio than last time.

Any chance you can be more strict and stick closer to protocol for optimal results?

[Balance101]

Originally Posted by Millenia98

Any chance you can be more strict and stick closer to protocol for optimal results?

LoL, you called me out! Yeah, I really want to lose as much as possible before I head to CT to see family. I don't eat fish, so I do like to add lean ground chicken and turkey, but I can probably do better in other places. :blush:

[Millenia98]

Originally Posted by Balance101

LoL, you called me out! Yeah, I really want to lose as much as possible before I head to CT to see family. I don't eat fish, so I do like to add lean ground chicken and turkey, but I can probably do better in other places. :blush:

Not to call you out. Man, I’d have to call myself out every dang day with my struggle w/veggies, so no judgment - just trying to help with the items in the diet.

No, but seriously, I find that when I cut back on that splash of h+h (even fat free), or even mixing veggies, measure exact protein, no cottage cheese/eggs etc…all of that helps. It made me be more strict on myself the second round b/c I only lost 16lbs in round one while I wasn’t following protocol to the “T.” Now, in this round, I see that following protocol has worked wonders this time.

I was just wondering if there is little areas here and there you can tweak to get better results. Sorry, didn’t mean to nitpick but it helps

[Balance101]

Originally Posted by Millenia98

I was just wondering if there is little areas here and there you can tweak to get better results. Sorry, didn’t mean to nitpick but it helps

Lol, I'm not mad at all. Don't make a sad face! I do need to clean it up. I need to drop the SF fudgesicles (40 calories) for one. And my calories are closer to 600 than 500. Thank you for asking me. It will help me. I guess I'm one of the complainers that doesn't follow protocol and wonders why I'm not losing fast enough. :blush:

[HellsBelle]

So far for me I've been losing better in week three! I'm only half through it and already over my week 2 total weight loss

[Balance101]

Originally Posted by HellsBelle

So far for me I've been losing better in week three! I'm only half through it and already over my week 2 total weight loss

That's awesome news Belle! Have you changed your eating at all?

[HellsBelle]

Not really! I did have some popcorn and a couple (literally 3) wings last Thursday, but it didn't cause me to gain...perhaps it did cause my weight to flatline though. I haven't been strict protocol from the start (eat eggs a lot, no grains, different veggies, cold cut chicken & turkey) but I have kept my calories in the 500 limit window...PS, I made your pseudo spaghetti with meat sauce and it was awesome!

[Balance101]

Originally Posted by HellsBelle

Not really! I did have some popcorn and a couple (literally 3) wings last Thursday, but it didn't cause me to gain...perhaps it did cause my weight to flatline though. I haven't been strict protocol from the start (eat eggs a lot, no grains, different veggies, cold cut chicken & turkey) but I have kept my calories in the 500 limit window...PS, I made your pseudo spaghetti with meat sauce and it was awesome!

I'm so glad you liked it! Yeah, I need to get my calories down. Going to try that this week.

[BigBravesGirl]

I think it's different for everyone based on their body weight, the foods they eat, TOM, etc.

Good luck!

[Balance101]

Originally Posted by BigBravesGirl

I think it's different for everyone based on their body weight, the foods they eat, TOM, etc.

Good luck!

Very true. Thanks Lisa!

[dbunny]

Week 3 I lost 1.5... My worst week so far.. I am 2 days in week 5 and already beat that number

[debkeversole]

Week 3 used to be referred to around here as the week from heck
but this round last week was terrible 1.2 net pounds for the whole week for me and it was week 2!! i am already down that for this week so hoping it was last week that was my heck week! hang in there up your water

[Dreamchaser]

For me, week 3 was much better!

I lost 1.5 pounds in week 2 (my worst week ever) and I lost 3 pounds in week 2.

[verbqueen]

OK, you guys are scaring me. I am entering week 2 today. But honestly, after my AMAZING week 1, I think I can live with a slowdown! Wow. Why, oh lord why, did I not try this plan a year ago?

[cdilday]

Originally Posted by Balance101

I don't eat fish,... :blush:

Don't mean to hi-jack the thread, and hope your next week's results make up for week 2, but...

I am NOT a fish eater, either. Have you tried tilapia? Very mild taste, not fishy smelling or tasting...a lean white fish, closer to chicken. At least this has been my experience. Now I'm eating it 4-6 times a week, and its one of my favorite meals on P2. Even my very picky 5yo and 12yo grandkids really like this and did not realize it was fish.

I also HATE cooking fish, usually...and I love to cook. Now that I know I like tilapia, I buy the bags of frozen fillets from Costco. They are individually seal wrapped, easy to thaw, easy and fast to cook. The P2 Mexican Tilapia recipe is my favorite way to prepare (only I microwave a single fillet serving on half power for 8 minutes instead of oven).

It is an especially good meal if I'm trying to balance the day out when I've also had a little beef. Perhaps you've already tried it, and certainly everybody's taste is different, but thought I would just make the suggestion.

Best wishes for success!!

[Balance101]

Originally Posted by cdilday

Don't mean to hi-jack the thread, and hope your next week's results make up for week 2, but...

I am NOT a fish eater, either. Have you tried tilapia? Very mild taste, not fishy smelling or tasting...a lean white fish, closer to chicken. At least this has been my experience. Now I'm eating it 4-6 times a week, and its one of my favorite meals on P2. Even my very picky 5yo and 12yo grandkids really like this and did not realize it was fish.

I also HATE cooking fish, usually...and I love to cook. Now that I know I like tilapia, I buy the bags of frozen fillets from Costco. They are individually seal wrapped, easy to thaw, easy and fast to cook. The P2 Mexican Tilapia recipe is my favorite way to prepare (only I microwave a single fillet serving on half power for 8 minutes instead of oven).

It is an especially good meal if I'm trying to balance the day out when I've also had a little beef. Perhaps you've already tried it, and certainly everybody's taste is different, but thought I would just make the suggestion.

Best wishes for success!!

I have tried it before and I didn't hate it. It was a while ago though. Maybe I should try it again. Thanks for the input Carolyn.

[Balance101]

I guess what I find hard to understand is this: Why are calories different? Whatever happened to, "a calorie is a calorie, is a calorie?" If you are eating 500-600 calories a day, why does it matter what it is that you are eating? Calories in and calories out, isn't it scientific? I know that some foods hold water, but Dr. S says not to worry about that. He says that it all equals out. So what gives? If a stall happens, doesn't it just mean that your body is getting used to what it's already lost before releasing more weight? Why does a certain food have to be the culprit?

Enlighten me.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by Balance101

I guess what I find hard to understand is this: Why are calories different? Whatever happened to, "a calorie is a calorie, is a calorie?" If you are eating 500-600 calories a day, why does it matter what it is that you are eating? Calories in and calories out, isn't it scientific? I know that some foods hold water, but Dr. S says not to worry about that. He says that it all equals out. So what gives? If a stall happens, doesn't it just mean that your body is getting used to what it's already lost before releasing more weight? Why does a certain food have to be the culprit?

Enlighten me.

NO CALORIES IN CALORIES OUT DOES NOT WORK FOR EVERYONE!!! you have read P&I right???? everything on his list had been carefully research for maximum nutrition and properties that help your metabolism if you google you will find that his veggie list is the most nutrients for the least calories and also have diuretic properties
if you want this to be a true CURE and not just another diet please research more

[Balance101]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

NO CALORIES IN CALORIES OUT DOES NOT WORK FOR EVERYONE!!! you have read P&I right???? everything on his list had been carefully research for maximum nutrition and properties that help your metabolism if you google you will find that his veggie list is the most nutrients for the least calories and also have diuretic properties
if you want this to be a true CURE and not just another diet please research more

I do want that Deb. And I will research more, was just curious as to what you guys had to say about it. I always find a lot of intelligence here.

[Balance101]

I guess, in a way I'm playing devil's advocate....You guys aren't going to kick me off of the forum or anything are you?

[Balance101]

I've done some reading and from what I've gathered it's the difference in how your body treats different types of calories, hence changing metabolism. That's kind of the gist of it, from what I've read.

I know that carbs and sugar are bad and I wasn't suggesting that those sorts of foods could be substituted for the protocol foods, but I guess I still don't understand why lean turkey breast and some vegetables can't be used, especially since Dr. S included carbs (melba & breadsticks) on protocol. And I still don't understand why certain sweeteners would stall people. I know I should read more of P&I, but it's so boring. I think I have ADD when it comes to that stuff.

Anyhow, still interested in hearing people's week 3 results as opposed to week 2!

Hopefully, it's just TOM messing with me.

[ldrof]

I sure hope that's the case because wk 2 has been a slow loss for me. I have been very strict about following protocol, so I hope it's just my body adjusting. I noticed in the last post, you said that lean turkey is not allowed? I thought it was. Please advise
Also, where is this mexican tilapia recipe? Sounds delicious!
Thanks~ Lyn

[Balance101]

Originally Posted by ldrof

I sure hope that's the case because wk 2 has been a slow loss for me. I have been very strict about following protocol, so I hope it's just my body adjusting. I noticed in the last post, you said that lean turkey is not allowed? I thought it was. Please advise
Also, where is this mexican tilapia recipe? Sounds delicious!
Thanks~ Lyn

Turkey is not included on protocol.

Taken from Pounds and Inches:

1. 100 grams of veal, beef, chicken breast, fresh white fish, lobster, crab, or shrimp. All visible fat must be carefully removed before cooking, and the meat must be weighed raw. It must be boiled or grilled without additional fat. Salmon, eel, tuna, herring, dried or pickled fish are not allowed. The chicken breast must be removed from the bird.

2. One type of vegetable only to be chosen from the following: spinach, chard, chicory, beet-greens, green salad, tomatoes, celery, fennel, onions, red radishes, cucumbers, asparagus, cabbage.

3. One breadstick (grissino) or one Melba toast.

4. An apple, orange, or a handful of strawberries or one-half grapefruit.

That said, I have incorporated turkey breast or 99% lean ground turkey into my diet but again, it is not on protocol.

Also, week 2 turned out to be my worst so far!

Week 1 loss 8 lbs.
Week 2 loss 2.6 lbs.
Week 3 loss 3 lbs.
Week 4 loss 3.4 lbs.
Week 5 loss 3 lbs.

Total 20 pounds in 5 weeks.

So hang in there! Could be your body recovering from a large loss in week 1!