Awful Rash

[martiangurll]

So glad for all these posts. I was freaking out that I was reacting to my hcg but I am pretty sure I am getting a yeast reaction too. Are apples okay or should I starve the yeast by giving them no fruit??? I am of course avoiding all yeast aggravating foods as well, but the scale has not moved for 2 days and I am not doing anything different except I have this rash on the arms where I was in the sun and a typical yeast reaction underneath the boob area which is typical for me if I have yeast problems and PMS. I am wondering if anyone has used coconut oil on P3 without issues because that usually clears up any yeast issue I am having (along with eliminating all sugars)

[debkeversole]

coconut oil is awesome on P3!

[dawnyama]

But do NOT do coconut oil on P2!!! IF you are on P2, you are to do no oils.

[LaraSuzz]

been there had that, cleanse the area with mild soapy water rinse patt dry and add vasoline sounds gross but it works Lara

[MagieDen]

I say apply Vaseline as well, it is a good barrier for skin on skin.

[LaraSuzz]

that rash is awful, bumpy itchy and scratching only makes it burn ow! if you can let yourself air out haha i know tmi

[adelinesdream]

Originally Posted by martiangurll

So glad for all these posts. I was freaking out that I was reacting to my hcg but I am pretty sure I am getting a yeast reaction too. Are apples okay or should I starve the yeast by giving them no fruit??? I am of course avoiding all yeast aggravating foods as well, but the scale has not moved for 2 days and I am not doing anything different except I have this rash on the arms where I was in the sun and a typical yeast reaction underneath the boob area which is typical for me if I have yeast problems and PMS. I am wondering if anyone has used coconut oil on P3 without issues because that usually clears up any yeast issue I am having (along with eliminating all sugars)

I understand that ACV diluted a bit and applied to area with rash on some cotton. Also drinking some daily in water. I noticed that I was having a similar problem around my breasts and private part during phase 3 and somewhat toward the end of p2. hope this helps.

[minimonkey]

ACV does help, but make sure it is dilute, or it will sting like the dickens!

For what it is worth, many rogues have used oils on the skin with no apparent problems... and some of us even consume coconut oil on p2. It's a use-at-your-own-risk thing, but I thought I'd throw that out there.

Most people do really well with coconut oil on p3 -- and it is great for yeast.

[martiangurll]

I had my terms mixed up. I am actually on P2. I did not consume coconut oil, but I did use it as a salve on my red rash bits and it helped tremendously. Lo and behold, I had a loss today, so it did not stall me as a skin ointment. I will definitely get some ACVinegar with the mother and try to stomach that--anything that will help.

Thanks to all who posted. I am still not sure if this rash on the arms is yeast related, detox or a sun reaction related to some AHA product I used just before sun exposure (unplanned). It does seem to be fading and it has sucked to not take any Benadryl, as I am afraid that will affect the loss. The rash under the "ladies" area is definitely yeast. This really sucks, because I am not feeding the yeast any sugar, except a protocol apple, and I am loathe to give up my fruit.

Does anyone with yeast issues have problems with mustard on the diet? It is really my main condiment, but I know it has vinegar in it which is a no no with trying to starve the yeast?

[debkeversole]

get some probiotics to take as well i use those acidolphilous pearls while on p2 , if i was suffering pretty bad myself i would go ahead and take a benedryl

hopefully your die off will be quick and the detox will be gone fast

[minimonkey]

I know the common wisdom is that vinegar, and other fermented foods, can be bad for yeast ... but that isn't my experience. I've actually found vinegar to really help (both internally and topically.) ACV with the mother is one of my staple items, and I am almost sure it has helped heal my gut, including the yeast overgrowth. ACV balances the PH in the body, from what I have read, and I think that really helped me get rid of my yeast problems.

This isn't advice -- just letting you know my experience.

[martiangurll]

It is pretty much gone thanks to all the advice. I am still eating fruit and the topical coconut oil did not stall me. I am still going to add the ACW when I go to the store tomorrow.

[terriblerashhcg]

Heres my update! Ive been reading all your posts and been following up on all your suggestions as well! I thankyou all so very much!

So today is my last round of meds from my Doctor they gave me this drug app-ketoconazole 200mg...my rash was finally going away on day 6 of taking my meds! Until Day 6 last night! My rash showed up on my chest and huge on my neck ( and it was fading away, where it pooped up this time is on my neck again, but moved to almost my whole neck, very large patches, and very swollen/ I know its the same thing again...so now I have faded rash everywhere along with this new violent rash on top Im so upset, I don't know what to do Help
Does this happen when your detox and taking meds with a skin yeast infection??

[terriblerashhcg]

Originally Posted by martiangurll

I had my terms mixed up. I am actually on P2. I did not consume coconut oil, but I did use it as a salve on my red rash bits and it helped tremendously. Lo and behold, I had a loss today, so it did not stall me as a skin ointment. I will definitely get some ACVinegar with the mother and try to stomach that--anything that will help.

Thanks to all who posted. I am still not sure if this rash on the arms is yeast related, detox or a sun reaction related to some AHA product I used just before sun exposure (unplanned). It does seem to be fading and it has sucked to not take any Benadryl, as I am afraid that will affect the loss. The rash under the "ladies" area is definitely yeast. This really sucks, because I am not feeding the yeast any sugar, except a protocol apple, and I am loathe to give up my fruit.

Does anyone with yeast issues have problems with mustard on the diet? It is really my main condiment, but I know it has vinegar in it which is a no no with trying to starve the yeast?

OMG, Thats the only thing I cheat with, is I have a tiny side of mustard to dip my turkey into? Is mustard bad for a skin yeast infection??

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by terriblerashhcg

OMG, Thats the only thing I cheat with, is I have a tiny side of mustard to dip my turkey into? Is mustard bad for a skin yeast infection??

mustard isn't a cheat on P2 but IDK about it with the vinegar on a yeast infection i have never had vinegar make one worse but i think some have

mustard is just a spice with vinegar and so OK on P2

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

mustard isn't a cheat on P2 but IDK about it with the vinegar on a yeast infection i have never had vinegar make one worse but i think some have

mustard is just a spice with vinegar and so OK on P2

I have heard that for an anti-yeast diet you HAVE to eliminate the vinegar. That is why people cannot understand why apple cider vinegar is good Conflicting info I know, but yes, stay away from mustard on P2 if you have a yeast rash--no matter what phase you are in.

[terriblerashhcg]

Ok peoples, I need your help! 3 Drs now have told me totally different things! even though I did the yeast test at home and it was positive...The Doctor put me on meds for 1 week, wouldn't not give me more and rash was starting to get better not as on fire etc..., but on last day taking meds it was coming back!
This Doctor said Im allergic to Tomatoes ( as I have been eating far to many)
Just finished my period, rash was getting better ( red welts were going away and turning a brown colour) Just started taking the HCG again yesterday and my RASH is coming back!! whats going on! Im so frustrated and have been doing so great! what should I do!

[shelbyla]

First off-- Yeast sux!

Ok so I have gone back and looked at the whole thread since you started posting. I am a little confused as to where you are in your round of hhCG, if you are even still doing one. So here is what a round of hhCG is. Whatever you bought or whatever came with your drops, PLEASE disregard. This is the basic info...

--2 days of "loading" while taking the hhCG - eat high fat foods or foods that you will miss (high fat/low carb tends to work best)
--21-40 days of the very low calorie diet while taking the hhCG - 500 calories consisting of VERY SPECIFIC FOODS (did you read the original protocol?). This is called Phase 2 or P2
--2 days of the very low calorie diet WITHOUT the hhCG
--21 days of no sugar/no starch eating. You can eat low GI fruits and things like plain yogurt but no ADDED sugars or high sugar fruits like pineapple or banana. Absolutely NO wheat, pasta, rice, potatoes, legumes, breads, etc. This is called Phase 3 or P3.
--21 days of SLOOOOWLY adding back in carbs and sugars. This is called Phase 4 or P4.

As far as your rash goes, it DOES sound like yeast to me which is what a detox rash IS. I've had it, it's not fun, and it can be a bear to get rid of. It ALWAYS takes time and may not respond to anti-fungal meds immediately or at all. If you REALLY want to get serious about this and get rid of it, I would do a couple of things:

1) Stop taking the hhCG. There may be things added to the drops other than hCG that you are sensitive to.

2) Stop all vitamins and minerals that you are currently taking.

3) Start a yeast cleanse or an elimination diet.
Eliminate for 2 weeks the following:
--All carbs. This means no sugars of ANY sort including agave, maple syrup, or table sugar/ No fruit, rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, sweet potatoes, carrots or other starchy vegetables, corn and corn products, legumes like kidney and garbanzo beans.
--All foods with vinegar including salad dressings, olives, fermented foods like sauerkraut, pickles, etc.
--All nuts. A lot of nuts have molds which can aggravate a yeast problem.
--All mushrooms. (They are a fungus which is a pre-cursor to yeasts.)
--All milk products including yogurt and whey protein. Dairy is a notorious allergen. If you need cream in your coffee, google coconut milk creamer.
--All franken-oils, including canola, corn, safflower, grapeseed, etc.
--All nightshades, including tomatoes, eggplant, and bell and hot peppers.
--Any spices or seasonings with added sugars or chemicals.
--All diet soda or drinks with artificial sweeteners. No Splenda, aspartame (Equal) or saccharine. Stevia ONLY if you need a sweetener.
--If you can eliminate coffee and drink green tea or yerba mate, it's recommended.
--All chocolate

For those two weeks eat the following:
--Grilled or broiled meats with spices, celtic sea salt and/or pepper
--Eggs
--Steamed, roasted, boiled or raw vegetables (all lettuces, all cabbages, spinach, summer squash, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, snap peas are all pretty safe)
--Coconut oil, butter, olive oil ONLY. Use these LIBERALLY on veggies and meats. If you can, eat 2-5 tablespoons per day of coconut oil. Melt it in coffee. Make coconut bombs. Start with 1/2T and build up to it. It has a laxative effect if you eat too much.
--Dressings made with lemon juice, spices and olive oil

For those two weeks use Dove or Ivory soap on your body. NOT the body wash--soap. Use baby shampoo and conditioner. Use coconut oil for all over moisturizer, including on your face. Coconut oil is an anti-fungal which will help the detox/yeast reaction. During the cleanse, take epsom salt and/or baking soda baths before bed to alleviate itching. Drink LOTS of water ( a gallon+ per day) with added lemon juice, fresh if possible. Drink herbal tea at night to combat cravings. There are yeast cleanse teas with various herbs that may help. Add a drop or two of oregano oil or olive leaf oil to a glass of water and chug it down in the morning. These both taste absolutely vile (and I do mean VILE!!!) but help with systemic yeast.

(This approach will also work great for P3 if you so choose.)

After the two weeks are up, you should see a significant improvement in your symptoms. At this point decide what food you are missing the very most and add back a SMALL serving once per day. If you have no reactions that day, continue for two more days. If no reactions, add another serving of a different food. Continue with this until and unless you see a reoccurence of the allergic reaction. If you see one, you know that is a yeast trigger for you and/or you have a sensitivity to it and should avoid in large quantities or entirely.

Bad thing here is that this is HARD and takes time. The good thing--this is a FANTASTIC way to start a round of hhCG, IF you decide that is what you want to do. If you get past two weeks and want to try the hhCG, if at that point you have no rash and try the hhCG and immediately get a rash, you know it is your drops of something in them.

I am not sure right now if you are using a combo drop (amino acids, vitamins and hhCG) or just an hhCG preparation or what exactly, but if you REALLY want to get rid of the rash, the above is what I would recommend.

Like I said it's hard but not impossible. I did this protocol for a good 6 months to get rid of a systemic candida problem. You adjust eventually. I hope some of it is helpful (for you or anyone reading).

Aren't you glad you asked?

[dawnyama]

Shelby--love ya girl What thorough info. Thank you so much!!

[cocoapeanut]

Such good info - you da bomb Shelby!

I myself had a chest/back of neck rash that did not itch at all (except for the back of the neck occasionally) but persisted through most of P2 for me. I'm about a week and a half into P3 and it's mostly cleared up, though you can see some remnants of it deep in my cleavage. While I was taking RX hCG, the rash would seem to clear up a bit but then I'd get new breakouts. I'm thinking perhaps I detoxed AND reacted to the hCG in some way? Not sure. The only reason I let it persist was because it hardly bothered me (well, except visually ).

I'd say elimination diet is the best thing to try if you're experiencing severe reactions.

[terriblerashhcg]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

First off-- Yeast sux!

Ok so I have gone back and looked at the whole thread since you started posting. I am a little confused as to where you are in your round of hhCG, if you are even still doing one. So here is what a round of hhCG is. Whatever you bought or whatever came with your drops, PLEASE disregard. This is the basic info...

--2 days of "loading" while taking the hhCG - eat high fat foods or foods that you will miss (high fat/low carb tends to work best)
--21-40 days of the very low calorie diet while taking the hhCG - 500 calories consisting of VERY SPECIFIC FOODS (did you read the original protocol?). This is called Phase 2 or P2
--2 days of the very low calorie diet WITHOUT the hhCG
--21 days of no sugar/no starch eating. You can eat low GI fruits and things like plain yogurt but no ADDED sugars or high sugar fruits like pineapple or banana. Absolutely NO wheat, pasta, rice, potatoes, legumes, breads, etc. This is called Phase 3 or P3.
--21 days of SLOOOOWLY adding back in carbs and sugars. This is called Phase 4 or P4.

As far as your rash goes, it DOES sound like yeast to me which is what a detox rash IS. I've had it, it's not fun, and it can be a bear to get rid of. It ALWAYS takes time and may not respond to anti-fungal meds immediately or at all. If you REALLY want to get serious about this and get rid of it, I would do a couple of things:

1) Stop taking the hhCG. There may be things added to the drops other than hCG that you are sensitive to.

2) Stop all vitamins and minerals that you are currently taking.

3) Start a yeast cleanse or an elimination diet.
Eliminate for 2 weeks the following:
--All carbs. This means no sugars of ANY sort including agave, maple syrup, or table sugar/ No fruit, rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, sweet potatoes, carrots or other starchy vegetables, corn and corn products, legumes like kidney and garbanzo beans.
--All foods with vinegar including salad dressings, olives, fermented foods like sauerkraut, pickles, etc.
--All nuts. A lot of nuts have molds which can aggravate a yeast problem.
--All mushrooms. (They are a fungus which is a pre-cursor to yeasts.)
--All milk products including yogurt and whey protein. Dairy is a notorious allergen. If you need cream in your coffee, google coconut milk creamer.
--All franken-oils, including canola, corn, safflower, grapeseed, etc.
--All nightshades, including tomatoes, eggplant, and bell and hot peppers.
--Any spices or seasonings with added sugars or chemicals.
--All diet soda or drinks with artificial sweeteners. No Splenda, aspartame (Equal) or saccharine. Stevia ONLY if you need a sweetener.
--If you can eliminate coffee and drink green tea or yerba mate, it's recommended.
--All chocolate

For those two weeks eat the following:
--Grilled or broiled meats with spices, celtic sea salt and/or pepper
--Eggs
--Steamed, roasted, boiled or raw vegetables (all lettuces, all cabbages, spinach, summer squash, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, snap peas are all pretty safe)
--Coconut oil, butter, olive oil ONLY. Use these LIBERALLY on veggies and meats. If you can, eat 2-5 tablespoons per day of coconut oil. Melt it in coffee. Make coconut bombs. Start with 1/2T and build up to it. It has a laxative effect if you eat too much.
--Dressings made with lemon juice, spices and olive oil

For those two weeks use Dove or Ivory soap on your body. NOT the body wash--soap. Use baby shampoo and conditioner. Use coconut oil for all over moisturizer, including on your face. Coconut oil is an anti-fungal which will help the detox/yeast reaction. During the cleanse, take epsom salt and/or baking soda baths before bed to alleviate itching. Drink LOTS of water ( a gallon+ per day) with added lemon juice, fresh if possible. Drink herbal tea at night to combat cravings. There are yeast cleanse teas with various herbs that may help. Add a drop or two of oregano oil or olive leaf oil to a glass of water and chug it down in the morning. These both taste absolutely vile (and I do mean VILE!!!) but help with systemic yeast.

(This approach will also work great for P3 if you so choose.)

After the two weeks are up, you should see a significant improvement in your symptoms. At this point decide what food you are missing the very most and add back a SMALL serving once per day. If you have no reactions that day, continue for two more days. If no reactions, add another serving of a different food. Continue with this until and unless you see a reoccurence of the allergic reaction. If you see one, you know that is a yeast trigger for you and/or you have a sensitivity to it and should avoid in large quantities or entirely.

Bad thing here is that this is HARD and takes time. The good thing--this is a FANTASTIC way to start a round of hhCG, IF you decide that is what you want to do. If you get past two weeks and want to try the hhCG, if at that point you have no rash and try the hhCG and immediately get a rash, you know it is your drops of something in them.

I am not sure right now if you are using a combo drop (amino acids, vitamins and hhCG) or just an hhCG preparation or what exactly, but if you REALLY want to get rid of the rash, the above is what I would recommend.

Like I said it's hard but not impossible. I did this protocol for a good 6 months to get rid of a systemic candida problem. You adjust eventually. I hope some of it is helpful (for you or anyone reading).

Aren't you glad you asked?

You are so amazing to take the time out of your busy life to help me. I WISH I COULD CALL YOU!!! Im so not great with the computer, or at least with long messages! If theres anyway we could talk I would be so happy!
Looks like Ive kinda done the same thing as you said in the above message? Load days, but Ive been on the HCG for two rounds in a row of 21 days each? Not I just finished my 2nd bottle and Im ending here tonight I can't take this rash at all, its all over my back and neck and its painful itchy I just wasn't ready to stop as I still have 15 lbs to go until I reach my goal weight! At this point I just feel I'm hurting myself in some way, Its been over a month now...and its time! This diet has been so amazing and I wouldn't have changed a thing about it except for this rash.
Now do I have to follow this for 2 more days without drops then start adding things into my diet? Or should I go straight into the detox yeast diet now?
Im so scared Im going to gain weight My friend has just started her 3rd round of the p2 in a row? is this bad? The health food store we bought from said you can just keep going on the drops without stopping...Until your at your goal weight? YES..Im very glad I asked.....Im so happy there are peeps out there that can help us!! I thankyou so much for that!

[shelbyla]

Yes 2 more days of vlc with no hcg then up your calories. You could in the meantime try to eliminate the tomatoes and fruit, up your veggies and a little more protein and see if that helps. I DO really recommend the magnesium/epsom salt baths. VERY detoxing in and of themselves and magnesium can really help dry out rashes generally.

[martiangurll]

Pssst. I know it is totally not Simeons protocol, but I have been doing about a tsp of coconut oil per day and no more yeast. Of course, maybe the detox was finished but it helped.

And, I found a mustard made with ACW, so that will be my substitute on the starving the yeast diet...

[LaraSuzz]

I just switched from Olay shower Gel to johnson and johnsons baby bath and no more rash... I think its the ph level may be a cooincedence but its working...