I'm still hungry, all. Please help

[Millenia98]

So, this is VLCD 9 and I'm hungry throughout the days.

For two days now, I've tried to split my HHCG drops 8/7/8/7 for the same total of 30 drops per day (as the directions say). 4 times a day rather than 3 times. But I'm still hungry.

If I increase the dosage, will it add more fat and stall me? I'm at a loss as to what to do about this hunger. I've been hungry just about every day so far and I loaded very well.

[Balance101]

I'm hungry too. I don't get it. I started out fine and it seems like the hunger just hit yesterday. I don't know if it has anything to do with TOM or not, but it feels like more than head hunger. I ate 800 calories yesterday and made some bad choices today: hot dog on a 50 calorie slice of bread, a bag of 100 calorie popcorn, 10 calorie jello cup. It's not like my choices were the worst I could have made, but I don't usually feel hungry like this.

My plan is to skip tonight's dose and see how I feel in the morning. From what I read, if you are less hungry, you need to lower your dose, and if you are more hungry, you need to up it. Maybe you can try it too?

[LilacBruze]

I'm sorry.

I know you're eating a little off protocol, maybe those kelp noodles, etc, aren't what you need to keep you full?

I have no real advice. VLCD71 for me and I have still have no real physical hunger (2nd bottle). The only time I did was when I had P2 shakes for each of my meals, because I was not consuming SOLID food, my stomach would empty sooner and so I would feel it being empty whereas I never did before or since (once I cut them out). That's why I ask about the noodles, maybe they pass through your tummy too quickly.

[debkeversole]

play around with your dose maybe do 15 drops 3 times a day?? that was the instructions with every kind of HHCG i have had except the intermountain ones and it was 10 drops 3 x because of the dropper being so much bigger still equals out to be about 1/2 ml per dose
do you have yerbe mate tea?? a cup of that helps a lot also if you have fat free low sodium broth heat 8 oz of that up with your favorite spices (and tabasco too i read today it has been helping people with losses) and sip on that until gone do you know about Biz's shake??

Bizs HCG shake

Ingredients

3 oz. Lowfat cottage Cheese (1%)
5 oz. frozen unsweetened strawberries
3 oz. spinach
1 T. unsweetened cocoa
1 - 2 pkts stevia
1 c. water


Directions

Blend all ingredients in the blender until smooth. The water is approximate, you only need enough so that all the ingredients blend well.

Biz says we can have 2 of these as a meal replacement or one as an addition to our 2 reg P2 meals if needed she has successfully coached HUNDREDS through this diet and i am taking her at her word has always worked well for me
helps Steven with cravings too

i am drinking one right now oh hang on a minute! i will find you a recipe for a 44 calorie shake that might help the hunger

[debkeversole]

44 Calorie Chocolate Milkshake

44 Calorie Chocolate Milkshake
1 Serving

3 ice cubes
Water, enough to allow blender to work
1 tbsp low fat cottage cheese
1 tbsp low fat milk
1 tbsp unsweetened cocoa
½ tsp vanilla
Sweetener to taste

This recipe is provided for days that you need SOMETHING to get thru the day. As long as you count your calories and you don't go over 500 calories by adding this to your menu, you will be AOK.

Blend all ingredients!

Per Serving: 44 Cal (22% from Fat, 33% from Protein, 45% from Carb); 3 g Protein; 1 g Tot Fat; 0 g Sat Fat; 0 g Mono Fat; 4 g Carb; 1 g Fiber; 1 g Sugar; 27 mg Calcium; 2 mg Iron; 8 mg Sodium; 2 mg Cholesterol

HTH

[LilacBruze]

Biz's shake is the P2 shake I was referring to. For some it is filling, for me it was the opposite, filling for a little while but then left me ohhhhh so empty. But I was doing them as actual meal replacements so YMMV.

[Millenia98]

hmm, thanks a lot for those shake ideas!

But I remember eating the same way during my first round (even a little off protocol), and I was still satisfied and not hungry. What I was taking during my first round were the doctor prescribed drops for 23 days, and now that I'm taking these hhcg drops, I've been feeling hungry every day.

I don't believe it's non-filling food I might be eating, I truly believe it's something else. I don't know, but it's definitely different than any mental hunger I may have had during round 1. This is flat out hunger.

[Millenia98]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

play around with your dose maybe do 15 drops 3 times a day?? that was the instructions with every kind of HHCG i have had except the intermountain ones and it was 10 drops 3 x because of the dropper being so much bigger still equals out to be about 1/2 ml per dose
do you have yerbe mate tea?? a cup of that helps a lot also if you have fat free low sodium broth heat 8 oz of that up with your favorite spices (and tabasco too i read today it has been helping people with losses) and sip on that until gone do you know about Biz's shake??

Bizs HCG shake

i am drinking one right now oh hang on a minute! i will find you a recipe for a 44 calorie shake that might help the hunger

BBG, but do you think that by increasing the dosage to 15/15/15, I might stall or gain b/c of more fat in my system?

Even if that's the case, I suppose I might have to increase the dosage b/c quitting is OUT of the question - unless I starve and don't lose weight. But besides increasing, I'm not sure there is any other option. I don't want to eat more and create a stall, either.

[LilacBruze]

I always wonder if it's possible to get a bad bottle of homeopathic drops or pellets. I worry about mine all the time when I don't lose anything, but then get reassured because I am not hungry and figure I would be if they weren't working. The hunger thing I can't give any advice on because I have simply not experienced it enough to form an opinion. But I'm sorry you're experiencing it.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by Millenia98

BBG, but do you think that by increasing the dosage to 15/15/15, I might stall or gain b/c of more fat in my system?

Even if that's the case, I suppose I might have to increase the dosage b/c quitting is OUT of the question - unless I starve and don't lose weight. But besides increasing, I'm not sure there is any other option. I don't want to eat more and create a stall, either.

no not at all because you are RELEASING that fat are you having any other symptoms?/ no losses dizzy spells whatever or just hunger(i could NOT do this hungry) as long as you are not having any other symptoms but the hunger try managing it...if you are having the other symptoms your HCG might be bad i think Dawn said she did an entire round hungry Stronger woman than me
those drops from the doctor were RX right?? maybe your body works better with RX?? i have used RX and homeopathic and had the same results from both BUT maybe you are different
try the yerbe mate, try the broth, and remember EVERY round you do will be completely different than previous rounds LOL

did yopu read the P2 tips at the top of the forum?? maybe there is something in there that might trigger an AHA moment
hope it goes away soon

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

I always wonder if it's possible to get a bad bottle of homeopathic drops or pellets. I worry about mine all the time when I don't lose anything, but then get reassured because I am not hungry and figure I would be if they weren't working. The hunger thing I can't give any advice on because I have simply not experienced it enough to form an opinion. But I'm sorry you're experiencing it.

oh i am sure it is possible to get a bad batch! RX and HHCG both. watch for symptoms noticeably low blood sugar symptoms , real hunger, fainting and most telling no weight loss! believe me you KNOW when they aren't working
when they are working no hunger at all for me!

[Buttercup]

Today, I felt the same way. I was good for a few days changing my drop schedule. Now, my TOM came and I am dying. In so many ways. I am too far into it to give up. Let me know if you figure out something.

[Millenia98]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

oh i am sure it is possible to get a bad batch! RX and HHCG both. watch for symptoms noticeably low blood sugar symptoms , real hunger, fainting and most telling no weight loss! believe me you KNOW when they aren't working
when they are working no hunger at all for me!

I am definitely losing weight, but two or three times, I have experienced fuzziness/dizziness. It feels like a weak/no energy type of dizzy.

I tried to ignore it, but now that you mention it - what could that be?

[Millenia98]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

no not at all because you are RELEASING that fat are you having any other symptoms?/ no losses dizzy spells whatever or just hunger(i could NOT do this hungry) as long as you are not having any other symptoms but the hunger try managing it...if you are having the other symptoms your HCG might be bad i think Dawn said she did an entire round hungry Stronger woman than me
those drops from the doctor were RX right?? maybe your body works better with RX?? i have used RX and homeopathic and had the same results from both BUT maybe you are different
try the yerbe mate, try the broth, and remember EVERY round you do will be completely different than previous rounds LOL

did yopu read the P2 tips at the top of the forum?? maybe there is something in there that might trigger an AHA moment
hope it goes away soon

Dang, that's a bummer b/c I'm taking the exact drops Dawn was taking. I'll be in bad shape if I have to do this hungry.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by Millenia98

I am definitely losing weight, but two or three times, I have experienced fuzziness/dizziness. It feels like a weak/no energy type of dizzy.

I tried to ignore it, but now that you mention it - what could that be?

if you think your drops are good try what P&I suggests if you feel like it describes .....happened to my DH once and he did what Dr S said and fixed him right up

Towards the end of a course or when a patient has nearly reached his normal weight it occasionally happens that the blood sugar drops below normal, and we have even seen this in patients who had an abnormally high blood sugar before treatment. Such an attack of hypoglycemia is almost identical with the one seen in diabetics who have taken too much insulin. The attack comes on suddenly; there is the same feeling of light-headedness, weakness in the knees, trembling, and unmotivated sweating; but under HCG, hypoglycemia does not produce any feeling of hunger. All these symptoms are almost instantly relieved by taking two heaped teaspoons of sugar.

In the course of treatment the possibility of such an attack is explained to those patients who are in a phase in which a drop in blood sugar may occur. They are instructed to keep sugar or glucose sweets handy, particularly when driving a car. They are also told to watch the effect of taking sugar very carefully and report the following day. This is important, because anxious patients to whom such an attack has been explained are apt to take sugar unnecessarily, in which case it inevitably produces a gain in weight and does not dramatically relieve the symptoms for which it was taken, proving that these were not due to hypoglycemia. Some patients mistake the effects of emotional stress for hypoglycemia. When the symptoms are quickly relieved by sugar this is proof that they were indeed due to an abnormal lowering of the blood sugar, and in that case there is no increase in the weight on the following day. We always suggest that sugar be taken if the patient is in doubt.

Once such an attack has been relieved with sugar we have never seen it recur on the immediately subsequent days, and only very rarely does a patient have two such attacks separated by several days during a course of treatment. In patients who have not eaten sufficiently during the first two days of treatment we sometimes give sugar when the minor symptoms usually felt during the first three days of treatment continue beyond that time, and in some cases this has seemed to speed up the euphoria ordinarily associated with the HCG method.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by Millenia98

Dang, that's a bummer b/c I'm taking the exact drops Dawn was taking. I'll be in bad shape if I have to do this hungry.

oh dudes like i said i could not do this hungry one of the reasons i keep doing a round whenever i can i honestly have experienced very little hunger on this (once when RX was bad ugh AWFUL! ) loads of head hunger sometimes but i can tell the difference now between head hunger and actual hunger
when it is working right i honestly sometimes forget to eat

[Millenia98]

Thank you so much! I will monitor myself Sunday and Monday, and will try this if it persists. I've never had sugar/blood sugar problems, so I would have no idea what I'm doing in this instance.

[debkeversole]

definitely try the yerbe mate tea really helps.... Dawn is on vacation this week or you could ask her more about her hungry round it might be in like the August or Sept 09 threads though if you would care to look

[privatediva]

I am sorry things are so tough, Millenia. I think I might be pretty suspicious of my HCG...it really seems like if the stuff is 'good' the thing works, and if it isn't, it's miserable. I hope you get some relief very quickly.

[ShellbellTX]

My first bottle of HHCG pellets were duds...I lasted 6 days and was SO lethargic, weak and thought I was dying~Had to stop and took a week to get back my strength!
I finally got on the Intermountain pellets from reading good reviews here and it made a huge difference..no hunger and never went through what I did the first time.
I wish you well

[Balance101]

Well, I skipped a dose last night and felt better. So, I'm going to try 8 drops x 3 today. I hope this works. Weekends are so hard for me. I think you should try skipping a dose Millenia, it could help to give you some insight.

[beachbound]

Originally Posted by ShellbellTX

My first bottle of HHCG pellets were duds...I lasted 6 days and was SO lethargic, weak and thought I was dying~Had to stop and took a week to get back my strength!
I finally got on the Intermountain pellets from reading good reviews here and it made a huge difference..no hunger and never went through what I did the first time.
I wish you well

I have been researching more on the HHCG. May I ask if you ordered your Intermountain from Netrition website or elsewhere. I want to order and receive good pellets.

Thank you so much.

[nmbnancy]

I ordered mine from Netrition and never felt any hunger. I also followed Dr. Simeon's protocol exactly.

[beachbound]

Originally Posted by nmbnancy

I ordered mine from Netrition and never felt any hunger. I also followed Dr. Simeon's protocol exactly.

Thank you so much!

[Dreamchaser]

I hope your hunger is getting better Mellenia!

How's it going today?

[nmbnancy]

Millennia98 I noticed on another thread you had mentioned eating shrimp and your whole dinner was only 130 calories. Are you eating enough calories each day, (depending on the plan you are following) Dr. Simeon's plan states you must eat the 500 calories per day.

[Millenia98]

Originally Posted by nmbnancy

Millennia98 I noticed on another thread you had mentioned eating shrimp and your whole dinner was only 130 calories. Are you eating enough calories each day, (depending on the plan you are following) Dr. Simeon's plan states you must eat the 500 calories per day.

Yes, I am eating more than enough. As for the shrimp meal (130 cals) - I did that b/c I doubled up on protein early yesterday. I was starving from cardio at the gym, so I was afraid to eat heavy dinner after the high protein.

I'm always over the 500 cals, so it's definitely something else

[Millenia98]

Originally Posted by Dreamchaser

I hope your hunger is getting better Mellenia!

How's it going today?

Thank you! I still feel hungry today. Maybe I'll skip tonight's dosage and see how I feel in the morning. If nothing works after that tomorrow, I'm done - giving up on this bottle and will maybe order a new one.

There is no way I'll last 35 days like this.

[pumpkin]

I started using a supplement called "Tone", from Complete Nutrition, and it knocked the appetite OUT. It's worth a google.