~Firecracker Girls !~ Week Starting July 4th

[Balance101]

Originally Posted by doxielove

Wow, congratulations everyone on all the fantastic losses!! I wish I could report the same thing, but I was only down 0.6 this morning for a total of only 1.8 (today is VLCD3). I gained 3 lbs loading so I haven't even lost my load weight yet. I'm not cold at all, and I'm VERY hungry - I know everyone is different but I am very discouraged already. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I have been exchanging one fruit for an extra vegetable since I am a Type 2 and want to watch the glucose, but otherwise I haven't done any "tweaking" - sigh...I guess it's still more than I would have lost on Atkins. Keep calm and carry on!

Sorry doxie. Can you increase your dosage?

[doxielove]

Originally Posted by Balance101

Sorry doxie. Can you increase your dosage?

I'm trying the shots this time for the first time - not through a weight loss clinic, just on my own. So far I'm not impressed. What do you think would happen if I kept taking the morning shot but added the hhcg in the afternoon and evening? Overload? And I am thinking about maybe adding an egg in the morning since I'm so hungry and seeing if the extra protein might help. It's very like me to get discouraged and give up (done that soooo many times) but I really want to lose this weight.

[doxielove]

Originally Posted by paulabob

Are you getting at least 500 calories? I find I have to eat either extra protein or fat when dropping the fruit, because the vegetable calories are a lot lower than either of those. Just a thought...



It once took me till day 6 to lose my load weight...very depressing!

Do you mean eat the protein instead of the extra veg or along with it? How would I add fat - isn't fat not allowed? Sorry to sound stupid, I'm just not sure...and thank you!

[Balance101]

This is my first round and I am using hHcg drops, so I don't know how to help you. I know though, if you are hungry you should be able to do an increase. Maybe someone with more knowledge on the subject can help. Hang there hon, you'll figure it out!

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by doxielove

I'm trying the shots this time for the first time - not through a weight loss clinic, just on my own. So far I'm not impressed. What do you think would happen if I kept taking the morning shot but added the hhcg in the afternoon and evening? Overload? And I am thinking about maybe adding an egg in the morning since I'm so hungry and seeing if the extra protein might help. It's very like me to get discouraged and give up (done that soooo many times) but I really want to lose this weight.

i have done that when my shots were not as potent on OCCASION. you can still tweak your dose for shots if you mixed 10 ml of fluid with a 5000 ius vial i believe i have a chart saved somewhere that you can adjust the dose
also test them with a PG test no not the regular way just put a couple of drops on the test well and if it turns positive the RX is still good if not than it is a bad batch this is only for RX! HHCG in any form will not turn a PG test positive

[doxielove]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

i have done that when my shots were not as potent on OCCASION you can still tweak your dose for shots if you mixed 10 ml of fluid with a 500 ius vial i believe i have a chart saved somewhere that you can adjust the dose
also test them with a PG test no not the regular way just put a couple of drops on the test well and if it turns positive the RX is still good if not than it is a bad batch this is only for RX! HHCG in any form will not turn a PG test positive

Oh that's interesting! I will buy one today (haha never thought I'd do that again!) and be sure to throw it away before my husband sees it and has a heart attack! (Our kids are 27, 23, and 9 - we already had our surprise!) Thank you!

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by doxielove

I'm trying the shots this time for the first time - not through a weight loss clinic, just on my own. So far I'm not impressed. What do you think would happen if I kept taking the morning shot but added the hhcg in the afternoon and evening? Overload? And I am thinking about maybe adding an egg in the morning since I'm so hungry and seeing if the extra protein might help. It's very like me to get discouraged and give up (done that soooo many times) but I really want to lose this weight.

Doxie, last round, my first with shots, I was hungry too, so I did the injection in the morning and then did drops in the afternoon and evening and it took the hunger away. Then I started just doing it in the afternoon, and then did not need them anymore. This round I did not need them at all, just injections. So yes, it will not hurt you at all, and will likely help with the hunger!

[BigBravesGirl]

Originally Posted by doxielove

Oh that's interesting! I will buy one today (haha never thought I'd do that again!) and be sure to throw it away before my husband sees it and has a heart attack! (Our kids are 27, 23, and 9 - we already had our surprise!) Thank you!

I was 19 1/2 when my baby brother was born.

Mom and Dad had kids:: 20 1/2, 19 1/2, almost 12 and a newborn. They had two surprises.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by doxielove

Do you mean eat the protein instead of the extra veg or along with it? How would I add fat - isn't fat not allowed? Sorry to sound stupid, I'm just not sure...and thank you!

Well, extra protein is no more allowed than extra fat or extra veggies. If you eat extra protein, you are eating extra fat, because no protein is 100% fat free. My advice is definitely from the rogue camp. I've seen a lot of folks who have dropped the fruit/melba tend to do better when they are sure to get a minimum of 500 calories. Sometimes thru extra protein, sometimes thru extra fat (like butter with their shrimp or a little coconut oil, etc). You probably can get your calories to 500 with extra veggies...but it's much harder because Simeon's list...except for onions, is pretty low calorically.

I also found my first round, with shots, to be my hungriest round ever! Hope you feel no hunger soon!

[doxielove]

Originally Posted by paulabob

Well, extra protein is no more allowed than extra fat or extra veggies. If you eat extra protein, you are eating extra fat, because no protein is 100% fat free. My advice is definitely from the rogue camp. I've seen a lot of folks who have dropped the fruit/melba tend to do better when they are sure to get a minimum of 500 calories. Sometimes thru extra protein, sometimes thru extra fat (like butter with their shrimp or a little coconut oil, etc). You probably can get your calories to 500 with extra veggies...but it's much harder because Simeon's list...except for onions, is pretty low calorically.

I also found my first round, with shots, to be my hungriest round ever! Hope you feel no hunger soon!

I'm already following the Omaha suggestions (mixing veg, etc. - just trying to stay away from grains) and I am completely open to any rogue suggestions - not a stickler for Simeons at all. Thanks for your help!

[doxielove]

Originally Posted by catjrow3

Doxie, last round, my first with shots, I was hungry too, so I did the injection in the morning and then did drops in the afternoon and evening and it took the hunger away. Then I started just doing it in the afternoon, and then did not need them anymore. This round I did not need them at all, just injections. So yes, it will not hurt you at all, and will likely help with the hunger!

I'm going to order drops today! Thank you for sharing - it's a big help!

[doxielove]

Originally Posted by BigBravesGirl

I was 19 1/2 when my baby brother was born.

Mom and Dad had kids:: 20 1/2, 19 1/2, almost 12 and a newborn. They had two surprises.

Wow! That's too funny!

[debkeversole]

here is this just in case it is good and you want to adjust your dose up or down

Below are the mixing directions for the different doses of hCG Vials.

* 1,000iu vial - Add 2 ml bac water
* 1,500iu vial - Add 3 ml bac water
* 2,000iu vial - Add 4 ml bac water
* 5,000iu vial - Add 10 ml bac water
*10,000iu vial - Add 20 ml bac water


And here is the amount you would draw for your daily dose. It is the same no matter what size vial you started with.

.25cc = 125iu HCG
.30cc = 150iu HCG
.35cc = 175iu HCG
.40cc = 200iu HCG



* One of the reasons we use 5,000iu ampoules is because we want to make sure the HCG maintains it's potency--which is good for at least 30 days...but no one is sure how much longer than that.
* If you use 125iu (Dr. Simeon's recommendation) these proportions give you approximately 40 doses with a 5,000iu vial.

[Lildrew]

Originally Posted by doxielove

Wow, congratulations everyone on all the fantastic losses!! I wish I could report the same thing, but I was only down 0.6 this morning for a total of only 1.8 (today is VLCD3). I gained 3 lbs loading so I haven't even lost my load weight yet. I'm not cold at all, and I'm VERY hungry - I know everyone is different but I am very discouraged already. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I have been exchanging one fruit for an extra vegetable since I am a Type 2 and want to watch the glucose, but otherwise I haven't done any "tweaking" - sigh...I guess it's still more than I would have lost on Atkins. Keep calm and carry on!

You could have taken the words right out of my mouth! You are definitely not alone!

I am going to make your "keep calm and carry on" as my mantra!!

[Balance101]

Have you measured Drew? It's likely you are losing inches. And if you stall (I think it's) 4 days or more, you can do an apple day to break the stall. Again, I'm a newb, so you may want a second opinion!

[catjrow3]

Drew, another thing, some people just stay the same for a few days and then "swoosh" all at once... it could be that, or TOM coming maybe??

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by doxielove

I'm going to order drops today! Thank you for sharing - it's a big help!

Or pellets too. I did pellets as well...

[Lildrew]

Originally Posted by Balance101

Have you measured Drew? It's likely you are losing inches. And if you stall (I think it's) 4 days or more, you can do an apple day to break the stall. Again, I'm a newb, so you may want a second opinion!

I am seriously contemplating an "apple day" for Saturday, if I haven't started to lose by then. I started keeping a log of EVERYTHING, so hopefully that will help me narrow down what the issues are.

[Lildrew]

Originally Posted by catjrow3

Drew, another thing, some people just stay the same for a few days and then "swoosh" all at once... it could be that, or TOM coming maybe??

OH, how I am hoping and praying for a significant woosh!!! Definitely not TOM, makes me scared of what will happen when it is.

[doxielove]

Originally Posted by Lildrew

I am seriously contemplating an "apple day" for Saturday, if I haven't started to lose by then. I started keeping a log of EVERYTHING, so hopefully that will help me narrow down what the issues are.

I bet you'll lose before Saturday...good luck!

[BigBravesGirl]

New avatar. Not a great comparison, but it's something.

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[Zbunny]

Love your av, Lisa! Awesome!

Deb, congrats on the loss! Woooooohooooo!

Hang in there, Drew and Doxie! I am the queen of slow losers (so you'll need to tell me the same pretty soon, ok?).

[doxielove]

Originally Posted by BigBravesGirl

New avatar. Not a great comparison, but it's something.

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Pretty!!!

[doxielove]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

here is this just in case it is good and you want to adjust your dose up or down

Gosh, it just doesn't look like there's enough in the bottle to dose that much (I ws told 17 on an insulin needle would last 28 days or I could do 20 for 21) - I'm starting to think I didn't buy from the most reputable supplier! Thanks for posting this!

[Lildrew]

Originally Posted by BigBravesGirl

New avatar. Not a great comparison, but it's something.

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Love the new avatar and I can TOTALLY see the difference in your face!!!

[Lildrew]

Originally Posted by Zbunny

Love your av, Lisa! Awesome!

Deb, congrats on the loss! Woooooohooooo!

Hang in there, Drew and Doxie! I am the queen of slow losers (so you'll need to tell me the same pretty soon, ok?).

You got it ZBunny!!!!

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by doxielove

Gosh, it just doesn't look like there's enough in the bottle to dose that much (I ws told 17 on an insulin needle would last 28 days or I could do 20 for 21) - I'm starting to think I didn't buy from the most reputable supplier! Thanks for posting this!

you can buy it from overseas and probably save a bundle and not go through a doctor for the shots...

[Ravenj9]

Originally Posted by doxielove

Gosh, it just doesn't look like there's enough in the bottle to dose that much (I ws told 17 on an insulin needle would last 28 days or I could do 20 for 21) - I'm starting to think I didn't buy from the most reputable supplier! Thanks for posting this!

I did 20 on the insulin needle the last two times and I didn't have enough to make it to 23 days. I ended up using some old hcg that I kept in the freezer that was no longer potent. That caused all kinds of issues. I had to buy some drops from GNC just to finish the round. So this time I am doing 17 on the insulin needle to make sure I get through the 23 days. I am hungrier than I was last round so I may use the drops I bought along with the Rx until the hunger subsides.

[shannashimmers]

I did injections through a clinic and I was hungry alot on them. I have seen where they should adjust the dose and they never did that. I have never done this diet and been hunger free but it does get alot better.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by doxielove

Gosh, it just doesn't look like there's enough in the bottle to dose that much (I ws told 17 on an insulin needle would last 28 days or I could do 20 for 21) - I'm starting to think I didn't buy from the most reputable supplier! Thanks for posting this!

ok do you know how it was mixed?? if less liquid was used i have heard of the 17 draw before i always have mixed my own