Simeons Protocol -- P3/P4 Week of 7/4/11

[LaraSuzz]

Aaahhhh P3 at last.

Mmmm, bacon I love you. C'mere lip gloss I've missed you!

Made bacon at 6am while getting ready for work. I dropped a piece on the floor but packed it for work anyway, lol. 5 second rule!!!
Picked up an iced sugar free vanilla latte breve at my fav coffee place.

My tummy is in shock right now. I think it's the coffee. Ow.

Beezer~ I'm sure that she knew you would have to cook everything if you all ate low carb, that's really crappy on her part. Go stay at her house soon, lol.

1Moretry and Lilac~ Amazing difference in your faces you look awesome ladies!

[MaryMouse49]

Originally Posted by RedL.I.

Hey Mary
Are you thinking you gained all six pounds from those almonds? Or your up six? Either way, we can get you back down. I think you're comeback plan is perfect. Steak day, clean day, easy on the cheese/nuts/HWC.

This is stuff we learn from! I had a beer today and a tortilla; along with the regular P3 food. It feels weird. And my usual strong level of confidence in what I am doing is way low. Hubby wanted to make some dessert and I said, "No, please. I had a beer today! And a tortilla! It'll all go to my butt!" (He meant a P3 dessert).

Mary: I went to Amazon and did a search for "travel bathroom scale" to find mine.
Jabbok: Awesome to be in your window!!
Catkin: You too!! :-)

Hi red,

I am not sure what happened, could be tom, even though I only have ovaries left. I lost 2 so far, so only 4 above now, doing correction day today, so hope scale is down , if not went to publix and bought greek yogurt and strawberries for saturday if I need another one. I load next sat/sun so only have another week. What did you eat on load days? Mary

[Angel In TN]

Originally Posted by 1moretry

Checking in with a slight loss of 0.4 lbs and a slight drop in blood sugar, but these might just be normal, day-to-day variations. P3D8 and holding pretty steady, just 1 lb above LIW. I started adding more veggies whch meant slightly more carbs, so my ketones dropped down and I started getting hungry 2 hours after a meal instead of 4, and was much more hungry at that. I must be incredibly sensitive to carbs, even from non-starch veggies. I can't say that thought exactly thrills me in terms of what my future holds. It will be what it will be.

To the rest of you, it seems you are doing well. Congrats!

Just a quick question... Do you always eat protein with your fruits/veggies? The doctor confirmed that it is the only way for it not to metabolize too quickly. I eat just a slice or ounce of cheese, cottage cheese, or some nuts with mine.

[RedsSkinnyJeans]

Originally Posted by MaryMouse49

Hi red,

What did you eat on load days? Mary

Hey :-)

I did the steak day. I thought it would be a nightmare to go all day without eating. Every time I was hungry, I guzzled water with lemon. It TOTALLY wasn't as bad as I thought it would be!

Then at 5pm I had a big rib eye steak with melted gorgonzola cheese on top and a fat beefsteak tomato. Worked pretty good!

Hope it goes well for you. :-)

[shelbyla]

Down another 1.2 this morning to land me just below LDW. Wine for the next two nights though so I fully expect to be trying to get this weight off again early next week!

Happy Friday, all!

[1moretry]

Originally Posted by Angel In TN

Just a quick question... Do you always eat protein with your fruits/veggies? The doctor confirmed that it is the only way for it not to metabolize too quickly. I eat just a slice or ounce of cheese, cottage cheese, or some nuts with mine.

I eat protein with every meal or snack. I am not eating fruit at all right now, in keeping with the no sugar part of P3 according to Simeons, and I am not sure I will be able to ever eat fruit again because of my diabetes. However, I am still having my husband stock up on cherries today at one-day sale at our local market because they freeze well, are usually so expensive, and are the lowest fruit on the GI. In the past 8 years, I ate only fruits that were low GI, but my blood sugar still crept up and that's a big concern for me right now.

My doctor and Taubes both say that there's no such thing as an "essential carbohydrate" (like there are essential fatty acids and essential amino acids). I am trying to sort out how (or IF) I can get my blood sugar down to 100 or below without medications and this whole thing is an experiment for me, as nothing I tried in the past has worked, either to get rid of the fat OR to get my diabetes under control. Massive food allergies only complicated things for me, and so far I am making good progress with those using the lasering technique and the basic allergy kit.

Checking in with a slight gain today in both weight (up 0.6 lb, but still within window) and blood sugar (146 again), and these both seem to be normal day-to-day fluctuations and basically level. I am welcoming the respite from P2 and enjoy experimenting with new foods, but want to get back to losing fat again at the same time. It is clear my body needs this break and the reshaping continues. I can see that there are good reasons other than the dreaded "immunity" for waiting several weeks between rounds.

I have lost another inch in my waist and the fat is redistributing itself in all the right places. I was somewhat disturbed by how haggard I looked at the end of P2, but those places that were all sunken and lumpy have now smoothed out and I am seeing muscle mass coming back that had been lost, too. There were places where there was almost no fat at all under my skin (I could see coloration from the tissue under the skin), so it has me wondering why Simeons said that HCG did not touch normal fat, only the abnormal fat. What I am observing in myself suggests otherwise, but now that the reshaping is redistributing what's left in ways that look good to me, I don't really care about the theory as much. It seems to be working, and that's what counts in the end. I still have way too much visceral fat and my husband keeps reminding me that that will be addressed in my next round of P2.

So far I seem to not be having large swings up or down, and that suggests to me that I have a new set point that is just above my LIW, so all in all, it feels like things are working as they should. The diabetes question MAY be resolved when I lose the rest of this fat, but that is still months away for me, so only time will tell.

[dazygyrl]

good morning!

i soooooo enjoyed my beloved medium chicken wings from BWW with my even more favoritest ranch last night!! (even if i am up 0.6 from yesterday ) still well within my window.

i told ds i can't believe i used to eat 12-18 of those wings!! i was stuffed after a small side salad and 6 wings!! which is kinda cool. and BWW DOES indeed have the best.ranch.ever.

[Angel In TN]

Originally Posted by 1moretry

I eat protein with every meal or snack. I am not eating fruit at all right now, in keeping with the no sugar part of P3 according to Simeons, and I am not sure I will be able to ever eat fruit again because of my diabetes. However, I am still having my husband stock up on cherries today at one-day sale at our local market because they freeze well, are usually so expensive, and are the lowest fruit on the GI. In the past 8 years, I ate only fruits that were low GI, but my blood sugar still crept up and that's a big concern for me right now.

Ok, I see. I hope you find success in getting balanced. I know everything I thought was correct about eating was completely backwards. Just hang in there and keep going like you are. All of us are definitely healthier than when we began the journey. I keep my eyes on where I have come and know that now nothing is impossible that I once thought I was doomed to for life.

I am off on vacation for 10 days to Alabama then Panama City Beach. This will be the first real test. I have been very stable and am praying it continues while out of my comfort zone of structured eating/cooking. But relaxation and fun are going to happen.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Beezer Louisiana

I might be more likely to do that. Now if I could only figure out how to have my heavy whipping cream too . . . !!!! LOL!

For every single CD I have done (and in 7 rounds I have done my fair share ) I have had my usual 3 cups of coffee and I guzzle mine with heavy whipping cream. No matter which CD I choose to do, either the GY day, egg day or steak day I cannot do without my coffee. I also have tried doing a CD without the coffee to see if I lost better. I didn't so I continue drinking my cups of joe without guilt! Do not fear the heavy whipping cream on a CD!!!

[dazygyrl]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

For every single CD I have done (and in 7 rounds I have done my fair share ) I have had my usual 3 cups of coffee and I guzzle mine with heavy whipping cream. No matter which CD I choose to do, either the GY day, egg day or steak day I cannot do without my coffee. I also have tried doing a CD without the coffee to see if I lost better. I didn't so I continue drinking my cups of joe without guilt! Do not fear the heavy whipping cream on a CD!!!

a coffee lover after my own heart

[Dreamchaser]

Pardon me, I am a P2 lurker

1moretry - I know you said before that you weren't sure if your hcg had been ineffective the whole time. Have you now come to the conclusion that it was OK since your reshaping is coming along better now?

[porkfatrules]

welcome, Dreamchaser! I lurked in the P3 thread for a few weeks before I started, also -- it's a big help!

Today, down another half pound, which is really weird since I had BBQ ribs for dinner (Memphis style, so pretty salty!) and I thought I'd be up. I'm now under my window again, so will have to suffer through another one of my cream cheese/strawberry/stevia concoctions. Oh, the things we do . . . .

Seeing the doctor in an hour or so -- getting bloodwork back from right smack in the middle of P2. This should be interesting to see whether anything was elevated, as others have found. But, I'm 6 pounds less than when he saw me last, so he'll like that --

Have a great day, everybody!

[RedsSkinnyJeans]

Morning all,
Just checking in. Haven't weighed, but let me tell you I ate a record amount of calories yesterday. And, I just didn't care. I made sure I didn't mix in any carby stuff like tortillas, (or beer), so I was unabashedly free. At one point, I mixed a wonkin' lotta whipped cream with agave syrup and mascarpone cheese together and heaped it, in all it's glorious moundage, over some strawberries. Later in the evening, my husband wanted to make some "cocoa crack". Ordinarily I would opt out, because I already had like a million calories. "Sure! Who cares?", I said. (Bad attitude day - sick of being sick stuff). So - then had some cocoa crack. Stayed P3 foods all day, and it'll be interesting to see if THIS ends up in a gain.

[porkfatrules]

OOO-ga-ooo-ga-OOO-ga-ooo-ga-OOO-ga-oo-ga . . .

Guess who just had a blue ribbon visit with the doctor?

Cholesterol is beautiful -- he just said to quit the statin. And, this is a man who LOVES Lipitor, so this was a big deal!

Blood pressure is still down, so he wants to give it one more month just to be sure, and then I come off the BP meds.

I demanded a weigh-in (he says, "You're the only patient who insists on getting on the scale here . . . ") and I was down another 6 pounds since I saw him last --

He asked how I did it -- this guy is a serious AMA straight arrow, rolls his eyes at anything alternative, so I just said, "Low carb." Someday, I may tell him about HCG. Maybe.

[LaraSuzz]

Hi all on my first p3 day I'm up a little but that always happens so imma wait and see. still under my liw.

[catkin]

143.4 this morning.
Bernice spent the night last night, can you say holy s#%t?
Have a great weekend!

[RedsSkinnyJeans]

Originally Posted by porkfatrules

Cholesterol is beautiful --

Blood pressure is still down, ....

I was down another 6 pounds since I saw him last --

.

:c lap:
AWESOME!!!!

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Hi all on my first p3 day I'm up a little but that always happens so imma wait and see. still under my liw.

Originally Posted by catkin

143.4 this morning.
Bernice spent the night last night, can you say holy s#%t?
Have a great weekend!

Cat,
I'm not sure what you mean by "spent the night."
How exactly would that happen?
Does she not arrive, and then promptly exit?

[catkin]

Originally Posted by RedL.I.

:c lap:
AWESOME!!!!







Cat,
I'm not sure what you mean by "spent the night."
How exactly would that happen?
Does she not arrive, and then promptly exit?

No! She wouldn't leave till early this morning! Sheesh!

[porkfatrules]

Red, what happened after your calorie-fest? Did the scale treat you nicely or not?

[porkfatrules]

Originally Posted by catkin

143.4 this morning.
Bernice spent the night last night, can you say holy s#%t?
Have a great weekend!

You know, I love a good Bernice visit as much as anyone . . . but a sleepover? No thanks!

[catkin]

Originally Posted by porkfatrules

You know, I love a good Bernice visit as much as anyone . . . but a sleepover? No thanks!

No kidding! Plus, she hogged the bathroom all night!

[MaryMouse49]

Happy I lost 2 pounds on my steak correction day yesterday, eating clean today and see what scale say, I am 5 ounces above, so will do a gy correction day saturday if I am the same. P2 starts monday the 13th, hmmm hopefully not a friday the 13th scenario LOL

[porkfatrules]

Originally Posted by catkin

No kidding! Plus, she hogged the bathroom all night!

"Dear Bernice,

Please pack up your toothbrush, your fuzzy slippers, and your David Cassidy album -- I love having you over for playdates, but not for pajama parties.

Your friend,
Catkin

[dazygyrl]

[dazygyrl]

Originally Posted by MaryMouse49

Happy I lost 2 pounds on my steak correction day yesterday, eating clean today and see what scale say, I am 5 ounces above, so will do a gy correction day saturday if I am the same. P2 starts monday the 13th, hmmm hopefully not a friday the 13th scenario LOL

but monday is the 11th,

[RedsSkinnyJeans]

Originally Posted by porkfatrules

Red, what happened after your calorie-fest? Did the scale treat you nicely or not?

Today was the same as every day. 148. My weight in the past was ALWAYS all over the place. That's what is so amazing to me. Up and down by like 5 pounds, all the time. It drove me nuts!! (Ok, short drive - like, as long as my driveway, but that's beside the point.....)

I think I'm supposed to give it 2 days to see if I gained - will let you know tomorrow.

Originally Posted by porkfatrules

"Dear Bernice,

Please pack up your toothbrush, your fuzzy slippers, and your David Cassidy album -- I love having you over for playdates, but not for pajama parties.

Your friend,
Catkin

BLUE RIBBON POST OF THE DAY!!!

[Sunny7]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

For every single CD I have done (and in 7 rounds I have done my fair share ) I have had my usual 3 cups of coffee and I guzzle mine with heavy whipping cream. No matter which CD I choose to do, either the GY day, egg day or steak day I cannot do without my coffee. I also have tried doing a CD without the coffee to see if I lost better. I didn't so I continue drinking my cups of joe without guilt! Do not fear the heavy whipping cream on a CD!!!

Dawn, how much cream do you use in a day---do you use more when you are in p3---or do you keep it about the same

thanks

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Sunny7

Dawn, how much cream do you use in a day---do you use more when you are in p3---or do you keep it about the same

thanks

There was a CD where I did have to measure how much HWC I used for the day. It was limited to 1/4 of a cup and that got me through 2 cups of coffee. So by that estimation, I am thinking that I use about not quite 1/2 cup a day on a regular day. Now in P2.....that is another story. I do try my best to limit the HWC/half and half as much as possible on P2.

[ellenalesa]

Hi Ladies, pardon me for jumping in here. I have a quick question for Beezer Louisiana. Did you follow the S. protocol when you got started, or did you do low carb from the beginning? Do you have to do low fat when you do low carb? I was thinking of using Pam cooking spray and ICBINB spray on my fish.

Ellen

[catkin]

Originally Posted by porkfatrules

"Dear Bernice,

Please pack up your toothbrush, your fuzzy slippers, and your David Cassidy album -- I love having you over for playdates, but not for pajama parties.

Your friend,
Catkin

Bernice!