Simeons Protocol -- P2 Week of 6/27/11

[TurnNBurn]

Originally Posted by 1moretry

If you haven't read P&I regarding the program (or Kevin Trudeau's version of it), that might be helpful to you in getting the results you want from doing this approach. Just a suggestion and totally up to you.

Thanks for the info on the crystal light: I am dropping it for awhile. Yes, I printed out and read P&I. I keep a copy inside my desk drawer.

Well it is mid-day and after a slight headache this morning, I feel pretty good. 1 melba toast for breakfast and coffee. Lunch was a lemon pepper chix breast and some salad for lunch (with the dreaded french dressing :blush I saw a thread with recipes for salad dressings and will check that out. I have an apple here but will probably skip it. Apples always make me hungry.

I have an office job and am finding that varying the days routine, finding an excuse to put on a hard hat and walk about the plant is very helpful.

Drinking lots of water and diet coke, I seem pretty thirsty. Hungry? Not at all. But the late afternoon is usually the worst.

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by vli1127

I guess since I am NOT following Simeon protocol 100% I should maybe leave this thread. I am one who believes that if a little bit of tweaking of a program is what is needed to personalize a WOE, go for it. I know what works for me.

I'm one of those "tweakers" haha. I agree with you Vicki!

[chicamala]

Originally Posted by Sunny7

i will be starting p3 tomorrow, scared and excited at the same time---i was going to do it 1 more day, but decided to call it quits----i did though this morning use my regular shower gel, i sure missed it---i believe tomorrow i am going to have a good burger on one of my oopsie rolls and a salad with mixed veggies and good dressing-----i'm sure i will be full before its finished, will see

enjoy p3---i am thinking about doing pellets next round, do you like them better than the drops

Good luck with P3...have fun....it's well deserved! I ordered pellets this round rather than my drops. Gonna give it a try. Figured it can't hurt.

Originally Posted by Viola De Lesseps

I <3 oopsies on P3... only 15 days!! I love the results, but P2 kills me. My inner foodie is offended at the lack of choices.

Mine too!!

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

I'm one of those "tweakers" haha. I agree with you Vicki!

Tweaker alert!!!.......What's a narc gonna do???

[LaraSuzz]

I just went back and read a little of the manuscript, but I don't remember ever seeing this....

The weight registered by the scale is determined by two processes not necessarily synchronized under the influence of HCG. Fat is being extracted from the cells, in which it is stored in the fatty tissue. When these cells are empty and therefore serve no purpose, the body breaks down the cellular structure and absorbs it, but breaking up of useless cells, connective tissue, blood vessels, etc., may lag behind the process of fat-extraction. When this happens the body appears to replace some of the extracted fat with water which is retained for this purpose. As water is heavier than fat the scales may show no loss of weight, although sufficient fat has actually been consumed to make up for the deficit in the 500-Calorie diet. When such tissue is finally broken down, the water is liberated and there is a sudden flood of urine and a marked loss of weight. This simple interpretation of what is really an extremely complex mechanism is the one we give those patients who want to know why it is that on certain days they do not lose, though they have committed no dietary error.

Makes sense when people say the scale isn't moving but they are losing inches, right?

[Solstyce]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

I just went back and read a little of the manuscript, but I don't remember ever seeing this....

The weight registered by the scale is determined by two processes not necessarily synchronized under the influence of HCG. Fat is being extracted from the cells, in which it is stored in the fatty tissue. When these cells are empty and therefore serve no purpose, the body breaks down the cellular structure and absorbs it, but breaking up of useless cells, connective tissue, blood vessels, etc., may lag behind the process of fat-extraction. When this happens the body appears to replace some of the extracted fat with water which is retained for this purpose. As water is heavier than fat the scales may show no loss of weight, although sufficient fat has actually been consumed to make up for the deficit in the 500-Calorie diet. When such tissue is finally broken down, the water is liberated and there is a sudden flood of urine and a marked loss of weight. This simple interpretation of what is really an extremely complex mechanism is the one we give those patients who want to know why it is that on certain days they do not lose, though they have committed no dietary error.

Makes sense when people say the scale isn't moving but they are losing inches, right?

I'm not seeing inches gone when the scale doesn't move. When I don't see the scale move (which is often for me), I measure myself and it is the exact same.

I am thinking maybe I am losing so slowly because I don't have that much to lose?

On average I am losing .5 pounds per day. Some days I am the exact same. Some days, it is just a fraction of a pound. Twice during this month I lost 2 pounds in one day, but that is very rare.

I've lost 11.5 pounds so far (not including load weight- I didn't weight myself- I was too scared), which I guess is not so bad for 22 days of dieting when I had a total of 35 I wanted to lose. 23 pounds to go . . .

[jabbok]

Originally Posted by Solstyce

I'm not seeing inches gone when the scale doesn't move. When I don't see the scale move (which is often for me), I measure myself and it is the exact same.

I am thinking maybe I am losing so slowly because I don't have that much to lose?

On average I am losing .5 pounds per day. Some days I am the exact same. Some days, it is just a fraction of a pound. Twice during this month I lost 2 pounds in one day, but that is very rare.

I've lost 11.5 pounds so far (not including load weight- I didn't weight myself- I was too scared), which I guess is not so bad for 22 days of dieting when I had a total of 35 I wanted to lose. 23 pounds to go . . .

If you are losing .5 pounds per day that is average for a woman, so you are doing good.

You are also close to your goal so that may be why you are having a harder time losing but keep plugging away it will leave.

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by Solstyce

I'm not seeing inches gone when the scale doesn't move. When I don't see the scale move (which is often for me), I measure myself and it is the exact same. I am thinking maybe I am losing so slowly because I don't have that much to lose? On average I am losing .5 pounds per day. Some days I am the exact same. Some days, it is just a fraction of a pound. Twice during this month I lost 2 pounds in one day, but that is very rare. I've lost 11.5 pounds so far (not including load weight- I didn't weight myself- I was too scared), which I guess is not so bad for 22 days of dieting when I had a total of 35 I wanted to lose. 23 pounds to go . . .

Well yes I think that it's slower because you don't have that much to lose. And it says that you see the scale move after losing water weight so that would explain the 2lb loss on occasion Idk... wanna borrow some of my fat? lol

[vli1127]

Thanks gals' tweakers unite. LOL

[Viola De Lesseps]

I was sitting on the couch with my son (4), playing Legos and absentmindedly ate a few of his goldfish. Since I hadn't yet eaten my melba, I am going to consider it my first "toast"... just in case I'm drinking extra water and eating foods I know don't cause me to stall (tilapia, asparagus, apple, strawberries, shrimp and cooked cabbage) & skip my pm toast. Hopefully I didn't throw myself off... :blush:

[Sunny7]

Originally Posted by 1moretry

Thanks for the reminder. I needed that!

See you on the P3 thread soon!

where is the p3 thread, i do not see one, will look again

thanks

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by Sunny7

where is the p3 thread, i do not see one, will look again

thanks

Simeons Protocol -- P3/P4 Week of 6/27/11

[Viola De Lesseps]

I made three servings of P2 chili for future meals... ground the meat, sauteed it up, rinsed it, added fire roasted tomatoes & lots of spices and let it stew for 2 hours. I was going to have shrimp tonight, but it smelled so good... it's delicious!

[chicamala]

Originally Posted by Viola De Lesseps

I was sitting on the couch with my son (4), playing Legos and absentmindedly ate a few of his goldfish. Since I hadn't yet eaten my melba, I am going to consider it my first "toast"... just in case I'm drinking extra water and eating foods I know don't cause me to stall (tilapia, asparagus, apple, strawberries, shrimp and cooked cabbage) & skip my pm toast. Hopefully I didn't throw myself off... :blush:

You probably never touched those suckers....goldfish are known for their jumping skills.

[skyung24]

Originally Posted by Viola De Lesseps

I made three servings of P2 chili for future meals... ground the meat, sauteed it up, rinsed it, added fire roasted tomatoes & lots of spices and let it stew for 2 hours. I was going to have shrimp tonight, but it smelled so good... it's delicious!

YUMM!!!

[skyung24]

Is 40 pounds considered "not much to lose"? Just curious because I have been losing in increments of .2 for most of this diet.

I'm on phase 2 and day 24 and have lost a total of 13 pounds...was kind of expecting to lose more than that.

Is this normal? Anyone have suggestions?

[dbunny]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

I just went back and read a little of the manuscript, but I don't remember ever seeing this....

The weight registered by the scale is determined by two processes not necessarily synchronized under the influence of HCG. Fat is being extracted from the cells, in which it is stored in the fatty tissue. When these cells are empty and therefore serve no purpose, the body breaks down the cellular structure and absorbs it, but breaking up of useless cells, connective tissue, blood vessels, etc., may lag behind the process of fat-extraction. When this happens the body appears to replace some of the extracted fat with water which is retained for this purpose. As water is heavier than fat the scales may show no loss of weight, although sufficient fat has actually been consumed to make up for the deficit in the 500-Calorie diet. When such tissue is finally broken down, the water is liberated and there is a sudden flood of urine and a marked loss of weight. This simple interpretation of what is really an extremely complex mechanism is the one we give those patients who want to know why it is that on certain days they do not lose, though they have committed no dietary error.

Makes sense when people say the scale isn't moving but they are losing inches, right?

Thanks for posting this!

Down .5 pounds today. If I continue with the average, I will lose 10.5 more of these rotten pounds before P3~ woot! that would put me down with a 24 pounds loss. And I am OK with that! Then on to another round in late August, early September. Of course, I could also stay on for 40 days...

[TurnNBurn]

Originally Posted by Viola De Lesseps

I made three servings of P2 chili for future meals...

I did the same thing! DH had heated up the beef and cabbage leftovers; but I cooked up the chili while he was outside mowing. It was so good! I have 2 or 3 portions left and will have it for lunch tomorrow.

[Viola De Lesseps]

Originally Posted by skyung24

Is 40 pounds considered "not much to lose"? Just curious because I have been losing in increments of .2 for most of this diet.

I'm on phase 2 and day 24 and have lost a total of 13 pounds...was kind of expecting to lose more than that.

Is this normal? Anyone have suggestions?

Women, on average, lose .5#s a day, which about what your average is. Good job!

Originally Posted by dbunny

Thanks for posting this!

Down .5 pounds today. If I continue with the average, I will lose 10.5 more of these rotten pounds before P3~ woot! that would put me down with a 24 pounds loss. And I am OK with that! Then on to another round in late August, early September. Of course, I could also stay on for 40 days...

Nice loss! Longer rounds are possible... something to think about!

[Viola De Lesseps]

Originally Posted by chicamala

You probably never touched those suckers....goldfish are known for their jumping skills.

That's EXACTLY what happened

[Debbiec58]

Originally Posted by amylou

I do want to add a personal little victory...my hobby on the side is cake/cookie decorating. I know...it's not a good hobby for one that does best doing a low-carb way of eating lol. BUT I love doing it, and I am good at it, and it actually keeps my mind off of things and keeps me busy. Well, I have an order in for some baby shower cookies...and typically I end up eating a couple cookies to "sample". This time I haven't had one...or even any dough! The only thing I did try was my icing...just a drop of it to test the flavor since I always wing it (really!). This is profound for me...b/c usually the smells make me succumb to more testings of everything. I told myself..."self, you have made this recipe many times before...you know how it tastes, you know how it comes out...you don't need to test taste any dough or any cookies!"...and it's true. I had hubby sample and as long as his reaction is good, I know they're good to go! I also have come to the point in the past several months that I either have to totally give up this hobby or I have to not let it derail me. I enjoy this too much to give up...so my only option is to let it be like any other hobby. Anytime I feel an urge coming on I take a big swig of water. Guess the lesser evil would be to chew some gum too!

I'm sorry in advance for the multiple posts that are coming. I want to respond to some others...and I want to get my posts up to 25 so I can start blogging

~Amy

Amy, I am a professional cake decorator/baker. I work for a large bakery supply corporation and I train cake decorators/bakers for a major grocery store chain...so I know how hard it can be to resist the goodies surrounding us. I always have my black coffee and water close by and so far I am not having any problems. I also have my food packed with me. Being thin is WAY more important to me that eating my "wares" Would love to see some of your cakes/cookies!

[C'Marie]

Ladies, I just want to say I'm honored to be among you all - hard working, beautiful, dedicated women bettering themselves is exactly where I want to be !

I'm enjoying reading your thread and wishing for my next P2..... but still maintaining!

[LilacBruze]

Happy Thursday, everyone!

VLCD55 for me, had a nice whoosh of 2.4 lbs which including the 1 lb I was up from yesterday. Total loss on hHCG so far has been 38.2 lbs, I am less than 7 lbs away from ONEderland and wore my new size 16 jeans yesterday. Hard to believe that 4 months ago I was in a size 24.

I must admit that I am freaking out a little as the inevitable P3 approaches. I have said here and there since my VLCDs began that I am afraid of P3. This was actually the original reason I went from 23 to 40 days, and now am stretching it out to 60 days (or however long until I reach 199 lbs). I know P3 is the most important phase and I am really and truly afraid of mucking things up. I've come SO far in my journey!

But back to P2 - I know that this has been a LONG round, especially for it being my first and for it being clean. Aside from my re-feed meal last month, I have been on strict protocol. It hasn't been easy but I have thrown myself into the discipline as a necessary part of my lifestyle change. I think of it as a sort of Lent for my body. I don't think I would have learned new habits on a short round - I am stubborn and I know the mindgames I like to play with myself! This long round was totally necessary for my mental progress.

Having said that, I will tell you that after almost 60 days on protocol, you know what I daydream about? Not cakes or cookies or junk food - SALAD! Massive Cobb salads! With bacon and avocado and cheese and grilled chicken, piled high to the heavens!!

[Sleepy]

Originally Posted by Debbiec58

Amy, I am a professional cake decorator/baker. I work for a large bakery supply corporation and I train cake decorators/bakers for a major grocery store chain...so I know how hard it can be to resist the goodies surrounding us. I always have my black coffee and water close by and so far I am not having any problems. I also have my food packed with me. Being thin is WAY more important to me that eating my "wares" Would love to see some of your cakes/cookies!

im with you girls. i work for a snack food manufacturer by day and i own an ice cream shop and work there at nite. around food all of the time.
i constantly have a water bottle in my hand warding off the bad stuff

[Sleepy]

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

Happy Thursday, everyone!

VLCD55 for me, had a nice whoosh of 2.4 lbs which including the 1 lb I was up from yesterday. Total loss on hHCG so far has been 38.2 lbs, I am less than 7 lbs away from ONEderland and wore my new size 16 jeans yesterday. Hard to believe that 4 months ago I was in a size 24.

I must admit that I am freaking out a little as the inevitable P3 approaches. I have said here and there since my VLCDs began that I am afraid of P3. This was actually the original reason I went from 23 to 40 days, and now am stretching it out to 60 days (or however long until I reach 199 lbs). I know P3 is the most important phase and I am really and truly afraid of mucking things up. I've come SO far in my journey!

But back to P2 - I know that this has been a LONG round, especially for it being my first and for it being clean. Aside from my re-feed meal last month, I have been on strict protocol. It hasn't been easy but I have thrown myself into the discipline as a necessary part of my lifestyle change. I think of it as a sort of Lent for my body. I don't think I would have learned new habits on a short round - I am stubborn and I know the mindgames I like to play with myself! This long round was totally necessary for my mental progress.

Having said that, I will tell you that after almost 60 days on protocol, you know what I daydream about? Not cakes or cookies or junk food - SALAD! Massive Cobb salads! With bacon and avocado and cheese and grilled chicken, piled high to the heavens!!

you really have to be proud of yourself
youve done fantastic


id give a million dollars right now for that salad right now
thats exactly what i dream about too

[Sleepy]

vlcd 20 down 20
tomorrow is my birthday
looks like ill be 6 lbs away from the goal i set
i wonder if i would have made it if i didnt have the TOM from h$@# this month
and didnt slip up at the wedding last weekend
either way im proud of myself, ive been trying to accomplish that goal for 10 years :blush:
ill make it by next week for sure
ill be on vacation for 10 straight days
im prepared
and looking forward to alot of relaxation and pool time
2 weeks ago i was so worried and about to just do LC for vacation
but why set myself back, p3 will come soon enough
the thing that has really saved me lately is that i was reading alot of people have 1 bag of the 100 cal smartsnacks popcorn instead of their bread
this is a lifesaver at nite and you can get those flavorings to put on it that are zero calories, just use a little
and im still losing 1 lb a day
its just a little something to look forward to at the end of the day

[jabbok]

Originally Posted by skyung24

Is 40 pounds considered "not much to lose"? Just curious because I have been losing in increments of .2 for most of this diet.

I'm on phase 2 and day 24 and have lost a total of 13 pounds...was kind of expecting to lose more than that.

Is this normal? Anyone have suggestions?

Congrats on the loss you are above average for the weighloss, women usually average .5 pounds per day so you are doing great.

Originally Posted by dbunny

Thanks for posting this!

Down .5 pounds today. If I continue with the average, I will lose 10.5 more of these rotten pounds before P3~ woot! that would put me down with a 24 pounds loss. And I am OK with that! Then on to another round in late August, early September. Of course, I could also stay on for 40 days...

wtg on the loss.

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

Happy Thursday, everyone!

VLCD55 for me, had a nice whoosh of 2.4 lbs which including the 1 lb I was up from yesterday. Total loss on hHCG so far has been 38.2 lbs, I am less than 7 lbs away from ONEderland and wore my new size 16 jeans yesterday. Hard to believe that 4 months ago I was in a size 24.

I must admit that I am freaking out a little as the inevitable P3 approaches. I have said here and there since my VLCDs began that I am afraid of P3. This was actually the original reason I went from 23 to 40 days, and now am stretching it out to 60 days (or however long until I reach 199 lbs). I know P3 is the most important phase and I am really and truly afraid of mucking things up. I've come SO far in my journey!

But back to P2 - I know that this has been a LONG round, especially for it being my first and for it being clean. Aside from my re-feed meal last month, I have been on strict protocol. It hasn't been easy but I have thrown myself into the discipline as a necessary part of my lifestyle change. I think of it as a sort of Lent for my body. I don't think I would have learned new habits on a short round - I am stubborn and I know the mindgames I like to play with myself! This long round was totally necessary for my mental progress.

Having said that, I will tell you that after almost 60 days on protocol, you know what I daydream about? Not cakes or cookies or junk food - SALAD! Massive Cobb salads! With bacon and avocado and cheese and grilled chicken, piled high to the heavens!!

wtg I am impressed that you are on day 55 you are doing so good.

Originally Posted by Sleepy

vlcd 20 down 20
tomorrow is my birthday
looks like ill be 6 lbs away from the goal i set
i wonder if i would have made it if i didnt have the TOM from h$@# this month
and didnt slip up at the wedding last weekend
either way im proud of myself, ive been trying to accomplish that goal for 10 years :blush:
ill make it by next week for sure
ill be on vacation for 10 straight days
im prepared
and looking forward to alot of relaxation and pool time
2 weeks ago i was so worried and about to just do LC for vacation
but why set myself back, p3 will come soon enough
the thing that has really saved me lately is that i was reading alot of people have 1 bag of the 100 cal smartsnacks popcorn instead of their bread
this is a lifesaver at nite and you can get those flavorings to put on it that are zero calories, just use a little
and im still losing 1 lb a day
its just a little something to look forward to at the end of the day

way to go sleepy

[jabbok]

I am down .4 today so I have some wiggle room for P3 which I start tomorrow, this is my 2nd day with no drops and I am not hungry.

[LaraSuzz]

Day 300 on the Starship Enterprise... no it's just day 30 of my hcg diet, lol.

Last night I promised myself that if my weight went down a significant amount that I would keep going these last 13 days. (I only have 13 syringes left and about that much in my vial) So, I got on the scale this morning and lo and behold, I'm down 1.8 lbs. I was actually mad because it would give me a reason to stop for a few weeks, so I tossed the idea around in my head while I got ready for work. I even filled the syringe, packed it with ice and took it with me just in case I decided what to do in between. Then I got to work and told my friends and they said just stick with it you can do it.

So here I am, on the 13 day countdown. Actually 12 days plus 72 hours so I have a potential of losing somewhere in the range of 5-10 lbs more. With my body there is a difference between 246 and 236 lbs, and if anything I will get some cushion.

Now I understand what people meant by refeeding, but it's so easy to become derailed on the emotional rollercoaster when you do go off plan. It takes forever to get back but when you do I am thinking that it helps you get bigger losses. I hope anyway.

Last night I couldn't eat my last apple of the day. I decided to have a breadstick instead. I know that you're not supposed to do that but at this point I'm even sick of apples and I have a million left in my fridge.

[jabbok]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Day 300 on the Starship Enterprise... no it's just day 30 of my hcg diet, lol.

Last night I promised myself that if my weight went down a significant amount that I would keep going these last 13 days. (I only have 13 syringes left and about that much in my vial) So, I got on the scale this morning and lo and behold, I'm down 1.8 lbs. I was actually mad because it would give me a reason to stop for a few weeks, so I tossed the idea around in my head while I got ready for work. I even filled the syringe, packed it with ice and took it with me just in case I decided what to do in between. Then I got to work and told my friends and they said just stick with it you can do it.

So here I am, on the 13 day countdown. Actually 12 days plus 72 hours so I have a potential of losing somewhere in the range of 5-10 lbs more. With my body there is a difference between 246 and 236 lbs, and if anything I will get some cushion.

Now I understand what people meant by refeeding, but it's so easy to become derailed on the emotional rollercoaster when you do go off plan. It takes forever to get back but when you do I am thinking that it helps you get bigger losses. I hope anyway.

Last night I couldn't eat my last apple of the day. I decided to have a breadstick instead. I know that you're not supposed to do that but at this point I'm even sick of apples and I have a million left in my fridge.

congrats on the loss.

When I was deciding whether to continue on P2 or move to P3 I did the same thing as you if I was losing I would continue but for me I only lost the .4 that I gained the day before so I decided to move into P3. If you can get through the visit and stay on plan you will be much further ahead. If you are tired of eating apples can you have the oranges or grapefruit it will be a nice change or have some unsweetened apple sauce.

[Solstyce]

Down .5 today.