Simeons Protocol -- P3/P4 Week of 6/27/11

[Majerus]

Originally Posted by porkfatrules

On the subject of measuring vs. not measuring, I totally respect those who do it by instinct, but for me, that doesn't work because I'm a master of fooling myself. If I don't measure (and that means entering foods into ****** and weighing daily) I'm so able to delude myself that "it wasn't that much" ,"it was just two bites of that cheesecake," "Just one bag of popcorn at midnight, no biggie," and, "I probably haven't gained any weight." If I weren't so great at lying to myself, and so gullible when I listen to myself, I would try for the "eat until satisfied" rule. Strangely, as we've seen in the past week, when I eat until satisfied, as long as the foods are clean, I'm undereating. Go figure. But, normally it's a recipe for waking up one morning, 30 pounds heavier.

I do know what you are saying here. It has certainly happened to me. I am really hoping I can stay connected to myself (via the scale and how I'm feeling) enough to not let one day of indulgence turn into a year of indulgence (like I have in the past). I'm only still learning how to do this. I know a lot of it has to do with "staying clean" as you put it. I know once I head down the Sugar Road, I tend to get a little giddy and my memory fails me. Just say no to sugar. <----my motto

[Cruzcrzy]

Originally Posted by porkfatrules

On the subject of measuring vs. not measuring, I totally respect those who do it by instinct, but for me, that doesn't work because I'm a master of fooling myself. If I don't measure (and that means entering foods into ****** and weighing daily) I'm so able to delude myself that "it wasn't that much" ,"it was just two bites of that cheesecake," "Just one bag of popcorn at midnight, no biggie," and, "I probably haven't gained any weight." If I weren't so great at lying to myself, and so gullible when I listen to myself, I would try for the "eat until satisfied" rule. Strangely, as we've seen in the past week, when I eat until satisfied, as long as the foods are clean, I'm undereating. Go figure. But, normally it's a recipe for waking up one morning, 30 pounds heavier.

Same here! Since entering P3 I am using ******, and I feel more in control and empowered. I love it. This is the first time EVER on any plan I've remained consistent in keeping track of things.

[catkin]

Thanks for the cheers! Back atcha!

WTG Marocka! So very happy for you!

[Angel In TN]

Originally Posted by NeekoM

Hey everyone! Not much time but I had to share my little victory...

MY HIPS DIDN'T EVEN TOUCH BOTH SIDES!!!!! Sorry, done shouting.

You GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Girl! Shout all you want to!!

Originally Posted by Majerus

Thanks! And thanks to you, too, for paving the way for me.

You are welcome, but I am just fumbling along like you and many others

[Marocka]

I've come to the conclusion....I don't enjoy loading....AT ALL.....I'm not even hungry...I haven't been HUNGRY since I started loading on my first round...no hunger during P2...no hunger during P3....and now I'm loading for R2P2 and I'M NOT HUNGRY!!! It sucks!!

[RedsSkinnyJeans]

NEEKO - Not so much junk in your trunk huh? :-)

Porkfat: Not only are you hysterical, but you also type quite admirably while lying on the floor

But, enough about you, let's talk about me.

As if I didn't have enough problems, today I fell in love with a dead guy.
You heard me. Dead. Gone. History.

Cloistered once again in my home and recuperating, I decided to read an autobiography that's been sitting on my shelf for a couple of years. Benjamin Franklin. Now THAT was a man!! Spent the day with him. Positively brilliant!

On the food topic, I have been noticing a trend. I'm really loving the agave syrup, but I'm using it more and more. (Cravings? sorta) Anyway, tonight, I found myself catapulting out of my recliner to go find something sweet. Without a recipe, I threw together a mixture of the following: Ricotta cheese, tablespoon of agave syrup, some shavings of unsweetened chocolate, and some walnut halves. YYUUUMMMM!!

Having not yet achieved the pinnacle of naughtiness I sought, I then poured myself a glass of non-fat milk. My FIRST since March. (I really love milk). I swear, I have become sugar-paranoid. I'm always looking at sugar and carb amounts on labels, and up until now, I stayed away.

My snack was wonderous, (although I did not pass out, like Porkfat, I did feel time stand still while my taste buds did backflips). After finishing though, I have this sense that there is NO WAY I can eat this without seeing a gain. A FULL glass of milk???? That's a freakin' lotta sugar!!! PLUS I had agave syrup twice today.

Yeah - I do believe in pushing the calorie envelope, but not with SUGAR!!! Why don't I just go roll in a hill of confectioners sugar with my mouth open while I'm at it?

I vividly remember being afraid of P3.

I'm in P4 - but haven't done much exploring back in the world of carbs and sugar at all. Did I just eat clean? Or not? Heck, I don't even know!!!

But, it doesn't matter now, because I have about 30 more pages with Benjamin. I love Benjamin's brain. :-) I would so totally jump him right now. LOL EEeuuuuwww!!! I just grossed myself out Hahahahaha.

Night everybody :-)

[VEEnVEGAS]

[QUOTE=RedL.I.;14791651]Before I forget:

THANK YOU Sunny7 for posting the Ricotta Pancakes Recipe!

Cat: Cannot WAIT to try PB2 - in chocolate too. THANK YOU!!!

Vee: I just moved from Vegas! Miss my friends there very much. I lived in Anthem - south area.

Seriously, this is the first time in my entire life I have had to make myself EAT.[QUOTE=RedL.I.;14791651]


Well, you and I were pretty much neighbors then! I live off Eastern, right before it forks off and becomes Anthem...maybe a fifth of a mile from the Von's there.

Same for me...I feel satisfied with much less food than normally and am counting calories just to make sure that I am getting in enough calories in these first days of P3.

Never thought of myself as a Type A personality, but I can definitely relate to the "all or nothing" thinking. A bit of a perfectionist, I never do anything halfassed...whether it's housework or a diet. And if I'm not taking care of it at the moment, I'm quite adept at ignoring it!

Unlike you I never counted calories in my life. Always thought I couldn't do Weight Watchers because of that and for the same reason didn't believe I could do the Hcg protocol when my daughter tried for weeks to get me to try it with her. Now I am counting and weighing just to see how far I can push them. So far I've gone a bit over 1700 with no change in my weight since LDW.

I have totally adopted your philosophy as my own and continue to be amazed at how much I can eat without the scales moving at all.
I totally appreciate yours and PFR's posts in this thread for helping me wrap my mind around this idea.

Absolutely love seeing all you other ladies posts of your progress too.Thanks all!

[VEEnVEGAS]

Just read your last post, Red, and YES!!! If you are in P4 you should most definitely be exploring sugar! I plan on it and can hardly wait. If Dr. Simeon is correct, you should feel totally confident stepping on the scale in the morning.

Goodnight and enjoy Mr. Franklin

[dazygyrl]

so what do you think will happen if you push that calorie limit on the first day of p3. :blush: with say, 1847 cal.

[catkin]

[quote=VEEnVEGAS;14794030][QUOTE=RedL.I.;14791651]Before I forget:

THANK YOU Sunny7 for posting the Ricotta Pancakes Recipe!

Cat: Cannot WAIT to try PB2 - in chocolate too. THANK YOU!!!

Vee: I just moved from Vegas! Miss my friends there very much. I lived in Anthem - south area.

Seriously, this is the first time in my entire life I have had to make myself EAT.

Originally Posted by RedL.I.

Well, you and I were pretty much neighbors then! I live off Eastern, right before it forks off and becomes Anthem...maybe a fifth of a mile from the Von's there.

Same for me...I feel satisfied with much less food than normally and am counting calories just to make sure that I am getting in enough calories in these first days of P3.

Never thought of myself as a Type A personality, but I can definitely relate to the "all or nothing" thinking. A bit of a perfectionist, I never do anything halfassed...whether it's housework or a diet. And if I'm not taking care of it at the moment, I'm quite adept at ignoring it!

Unlike you I never counted calories in my life. Always thought I couldn't do Weight Watchers because of that and for the same reason didn't believe I could do the Hcg protocol when my daughter tried for weeks to get me to try it with her. Now I am counting and weighing just to see how far I can push them. So far I've gone a bit over 1700 with no change in my weight since LDW.

I have totally adopted your philosophy as my own and continue to be amazed at how much I can eat without the scales moving at all.
I totally appreciate yours and PFR's posts in this thread for helping me wrap my mind around this idea.

Absolutely love seeing all you other ladies posts of your progress too.Thanks all!

I tried the chocolate a while ago and to me, it tasted just like the plain peanut butter But it was still good!

[VEEnVEGAS]

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

so what do you think will happen if you push that calorie limit on the first day of p3. :blush: with say, 1847 cal.

I did over 1700 on my first day in P3 and the only movement I saw on my scales was a -.3. Did a bit less the second day...maybe 1400.
I should probably say also that I went directly from last drops day to that 1700 calories. Since I am doing drops that don't call for doing the 2-3 days of 500 calories after stopping the drops I just jumped right in.
Also, I haven't tried to keep my calories low at all...on the contrary, I feel as though I am having to force feed myself at times.

Betting you have a pleasant surprise in the morning!

[VEEnVEGAS]

Originally Posted by Marocka

I've come to the conclusion....I don't enjoy loading....AT ALL.....I'm not even hungry...I haven't been HUNGRY since I started loading on my first round...no hunger during P2...no hunger during P3....and now I'm loading for R2P2 and I'M NOT HUNGRY!!! It sucks!!

Are you doing the drops or injections? While I'm not hungry at all, I still dream of being able to load up on doughnuts before my next round!!

[RedsSkinnyJeans]

Originally Posted by VEEnVEGAS

Are you doing the drops or injections? While I'm not hungry at all, I still dream of being able to load up on doughnuts before my next round!!

LOL
I know what you mean!!!

Vee! I lived around the corner from you! Uphill, on Reunion, around the corner from the school. :-)

Lesson learned today:

Just as I had sensed yesterday, pushing the calorie envelope is good - but the content is vital. I WENT UP THREE POUNDS!!! Whoa!!!! Here's what I ate: First, I didn't eat until 11am. Then I scarfed down some mouthgasmic ricotta pancakes, topped with vanilla agave syrup because I didn't have any sugar free maple syrup. (Also, I 'hoovered' quite a lot of them)

Lunch was leftover steak and a big salad, (normal)
Dinner was more steak, salad, and then I had a craving so around 9pm I made the dessert that was similar to cannoli filling, sweetened with agave syrup, and a full glass of milk. SUGAR SUGAR SUGAR - and lots of ricotta cheese. I felt over-full and bloated going to bed. Like when you stuff with chocolate chip cookies and milk.

I normally eat really heavy on the protein, fruits and veggies, but add IN lots of butter and avocado and whipped/sour cream. So that's the big difference. I love ricotta - but it's on probation, and need to go a few days without my beloved agave syrup.

So tired of being sick - my cold is now in full swing.

Sincerely
Mucous Brain Honker Blower

[1moretry]

New thread for the week is at Simeons Protocol -- P3/P4 Week of 7/4/11. Shelbyla said she'd be out of town, so I put one up.

[dazygyrl]

Originally Posted by VEEnVEGAS

I did over 1700 on my first day in P3 and the only movement I saw on my scales was a -.3. Did a bit less the second day...maybe 1400.
I should probably say also that I went directly from last drops day to that 1700 calories. Since I am doing drops that don't call for doing the 2-3 days of 500 calories after stopping the drops I just jumped right in.
Also, I haven't tried to keep my calories low at all...on the contrary, I feel as though I am having to force feed myself at times.

Betting you have a pleasant surprise in the morning!

i know there is a new thread, but just replying here since this is where this conversation started.....i was up 0.8, but still under my LDW a little. bernice never shows up before i weigh, so don't know if that affects it. she never showed up before weighing all of p2.

going to keep it lighter today. i just felt too full yesterday. thanks for your input.

[Marocka]

Originally Posted by VEEnVEGAS

Are you doing the drops or injections? While I'm not hungry at all, I still dream of being able to load up on doughnuts before my next round!!

Rx Inj.

Loading day one down....up 1 lb this morning...

Wish me luck for todays LOAD.....trust me....I'm GOING TO NEED IT!!!