Simeons Protocol -- P3/P4 Week of 6/27/11

[VEEnVEGAS]

Love your messages PorkFatRules and Red! Thanks so much for making this subject so easy to understand!

[RedsSkinnyJeans]

Before I forget:

THANK YOU Sunny7 for posting the Ricotta Pancakes Recipe!

Cat: Cannot WAIT to try PB2 - in chocolate too. THANK YOU!!!

Vee: I just moved from Vegas! Miss my friends there very much. I lived in Anthem - south area.

PFR: Okay - how far are you from New London? <I'm thinking ferry> I'm starting to think I should meet my twin one day over margaritas - or something. :-)

Onward:

I am starting to wonder if Zycam (for the cold my husband so kindly brought home), is affecting my appetite. Yesterday was the 4th day that I could have taken or left food. But - my brother took me to a place with a band playing outside on a wharf and after drinking, I managed to eat wonkin' calories. After that, hubby made me something he whipped up in the blender that included ricotta, and agave syrup, and chocolate powder and vanilla. It was good - so I'm pretty sure I got my calories over 2000.

Seriously, this is the first time in my entire life I have had to make myself EAT. (Of course, hubby, who is 4 pounds under LDW, sat next to me and had a giant burger and onion rings....I swear...SO ridiculous). On a serious note, though, I'm really grateful and proud of him for doing HCG with me, and dropping 20; so I'm not complaining......much. It's just astounding.

RUMINATIONS

I am wondering what the percentage of we HCGers are type A people. And, of those that are, I'm wondering about the prevalence of "all or nothing" thinking. I know I have a lifelong battle with that, and a lot of my parenting was trying to help my son avoid that pitfall too. Either his room was obliterated, or every drawer was alphabetized. My entire adult life, either my weight was on the way up, or on the way down. Almost never stable, unless I hit a new set point. That set point was always ten pounds higher every 5 or so years.

There is a saying I really like:
"START AS YOU MEAN TO GO ON" This saying has served me well.

In P3 - I started as I meant to go on. I've been micro-managing my weight - or had it no where NEAR my focus for so long, that I want to be done with that. For me, personally, (and I totally get that others need to pay attention to calories and count them), that means not counting. I was a Weight Watchers leader for years. I HAD to count my points. Write them down. Gotta walk the walk if you're gonna talk the talk. I dearly want to be done with that forever!!!

I know that I am destined to continue my search for balance for the rest of my life. 40 years from now, I can just imagine pushing my walker around my house cleaning my sink with a toothbrush, or having a houseful of dust bunnies the size of poodles.

Minding the "START AS YOU MEAN TO GO ON" principle for me means always pushing the calorie envelope. Watching the scale to find the ceiling instead of a tally. I NEVER WOULD HAVE BELIEVED THIS WAS POSSIBLE: (eating so much, and so high in calories). Indeed, my posts coming out of P2 reflect that in quite an opinionated way. But, like so many other HCG results, it seems to be true.

And, after all that drivel - I have absolutely no idea what continuing on P4 will hold for me. I bought some steel cut oatmeal. I know whole grain cereals have to come back into my life. Ezekiel bread. Whole grain pasta. What will my body do? I have no clue. But this is one mind-blowing adventure, that's for sure.

[dazygyrl]

ahhh.....heavy cream in my coffee....eggs cooked in butter....favorite minute muffin. yep, mr brekky is yummo!!

i didn't weigh yesterday morning, which was day2 of vlcd without hcg to know how day1 w/o hcg went. after having more than 500 calories on day1 i made sure to drink lots yesterday and keep it right at 500 cal. which i did.

weigh this morning, day one of p3 eating...1.2 below LDW. soooo, here we go!

hope you all have a fabulous relaxing sunday.

[Sunny7]

scale is still going my way----i had so much fat yesterday, i was a little scared of getting on, but still the same, hope it continues---planning on a sirloin steak today with lots of melted butter, haven't had one in so long---with some mushrooms and onions

happy sunday everyone

[1moretry]

Checking in this morning and well inside my window, but blood sugar still headed up a tad even though I am eating low carb (only 16g carbs yesterday, which 6g were fiber). Finally had a normal BM (the increased magnesium worked) and am around 0.6 under LIW. Total calories yesterday were 1116, according to ****** and I had chicken for the first time in years. Still a challenge to keep proteins down and calories up without adding carbs.

I was not hungry throughout the day and will continue experimenting to see what works and doesn't. Have a nice day, everyone!

RedL: I WAS a "Type A" person most of my life, and gradually worked my way out of that driven behavior, but am still very much an "alpha" (leader type) woman. I also learned that my all or nothing orientation was a classic symptom of an anxiety disorder (BPD) and was treated for that. I have worked through a number of psychological issues but am by no means perfect and still working on speaking my truth without stepping on tender toes. I am in my third marriage and that is providing the catalyst for rubbing off the rough spots that are still left.

I am scientifically trained and did medical research the first 8 years out of college, so have a tendency to watch numbers and measure like my life depends on it, but in a way, it really does because I have to get my blood sugar under control or go on meds to control it if I can't. I don't want to go on meds for anything because of what they do to the body, so am treating all of this as my own experiment to see if I can break out of the patterns of the past, regain some semblance of health and a slimmer profile. I actually like using a scale and so does my husband, but am hoping that at some point in time, all of this new stuff will be routine (P2 is that way for me now), once I have worked out the details. I don't want to spend the rest of my life watching the numbers so minutely, but am willing to devote a great deal of time and attention to it now, so I won't have to later. I look at it as an experiment and an investment in my overall well-being, which is my longer term goal.

[RedsSkinnyJeans]

1more try:

I admit what I said in my above post probably came out dogmatically. (Again - all or nothing thinking). If I had consequences, you BET I'd be measuring and counting! I should have said that.

While my personality can be strong, and I'm also an alpha female, I am told I'm humble. I hope that true; I never want to be the opposite. What good is it to be right if you alienate people? None. I'd rather be wrong. So, while I'm a person of strong opinions, I react well when I'm told to "jump in a lake"
:blush:

Anyway - if I did step on toes with my post - I apologize :-)
We all have to find our own path to success with this - and I think we're doing a really great job!!

[Marocka]

OK.....I can't remember when I last posted but here is my update.....

TODAY is my 1st load day...round 2.....weight...are you ready??? 212.6 lbs!! YEA BABY!! Exactly at my LIW I didn't have to do one single CD Thank you everyone for your support!!

Onward weight-loss soldiers!!!

Have a great, safe holiday!!

[Angel In TN]

Thank you all for posting all that you do. I makes me take a look at myself in many ways. I have never counted calories but always looked at fat content. I have learned from all of this that fat is good. Wow! you want to talk about a real change to wrap my brain around!!! I am an accountant, so number are my game. I am now keeping track of everything for a while to make sense to my brain through my eyes that it is okay and working. I don't plan on doing it for life, but for now it keeps me going so I don't repeat the same pattern of listening to the low-fat hype and go into being unhealthy gaining weight. I feel so balanced now and never have before. So far HCG has corrected my 20+ year hormone problem. It has been so wonderful to have a normal TOM without toxic drugs that were killing my metabolism and hypothalomus. I am praying that it continues. If not I will only medicate with all natural hormones. I can not tell you what a miracle all of this was for me. I am down another .2 this morning. I have never even come close to the top of my window.

Anywhooooo, thank you everyone for sharing your lives and stories. I don't post much but I do read all of it. You help and support me so much. Happy 4th of July!

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by Marocka

TODAY is my 1st load day...round 2.....weight...are you ready??? 212.6 lbs!! YEA BABY!! Exactly at my LIW I didn't have to do one single CD Thank you everyone for your support!!

Originally Posted by Angel In TN

I am down another .2 this morning. I have never even come close to the top of my window.

Wow, two success stories in a row! Congrats ladies!

I am loading today...glad P3 is over, cause I had a TON of CDs to do this round. Woke up at the very top of my range (146.8). But at least it's in the window.

[Angel In TN]

Originally Posted by paulabob

Wow, two success stories in a row! Congrats ladies!

I am loading today...glad P3 is over, cause I had a TON of CDs to do this round. Woke up at the very top of my range (146.8). But at least it's in the window.

Thank you, Paula!!

I am sure this round is going to be a great one for you. It will be old school. Good luck!

[MaryMouse49]

Thank you guys for the info, yesterday had to drive 3 hours one way to get pup, so ate way below, also had 2 diet sodas, we were gone almost 8 hours total, so only ate a lunchable with no crackers, 2 wendys cheeseburgers, no bun or ketchp and left over chicken stuff I made. I feel for anyone who travels, it was very hard. I will eat clean today, and will do a gy yogurt correction day on the 4th if I have to. Happy Fourth Everyone!!!! Mary

[catkin]

Originally Posted by 1moretry

Stable is GOOD! That will stand you in good stead no matter what you do. If you do end up doing another round, that will act as a good platform from which to dive in.

I had hoped to only need two rounds, but didn't lose enough on Round 1 and have accordingly adjusted my expectations for Round 2 downward. It looks like there is a Round 3 in my future unless some kind of miracle happens, my insulin resistance disappears and I can get to where I want to get with lo-carb on its own (but really want that reshaping and don't want to look like a hag at the end). My crystal ball is not clear, so taking it one day at a time.

Thanks for that!

[catkin]

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

ok, can someone e'splain to my confused pea brain how we train our bodies to love more calories than our BMR WITHOUT gaining weight??? paaawweeeeeeezzze!!

For me, it's simple. I need no training because I've eaten basic low carb for years. I have long since abandoned the low fat eating mind set although sugar has given me fits.
I love fat and that makes it much easier.
If you have dieted in the past, were the plans low fat or low carb? A solod understanding of low carb eating, if you have not read much about it, will help. You could check out other forums here to get the scoop and read an Atkins book.
Hang in there!

[catkin]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

That is the one I have. I love chocolate anything. I have only tried it on my finger though. Not had the chance to try it with anything. I cannot wait though.

Cool! for some reason chocolate yogurt does not ring my chimes. I'll most likely try it in HWC somehow!

[catkin]

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

thanks, dawn. see siggy. 3 yrs LC. i would say strict LC. never had bites here and there of any carbs...gotta a lot of grief for being so strict.

my biggest concern.

i got to a couple above where i am right now eating strict ZC. decided i didn't really want to eat only meat the rest of my life, so began adding in more LC stuff. gained 10lbs. whut up with THAT??? i don't want that to happen when i get back to eating regular LC.

Sorry, I had not read through before my last answer to you!

[catkin]

145.2 this morning! Woohoo! Down a little over a pound and a half!
Check ya later, off to work!

[Angel In TN]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy, Cat!!!!

[RedsSkinnyJeans]

Originally Posted by Marocka

...are you ready??? 212.6 lbs!! YEA BABY!! Exactly at my LIW I didn't have to do one single CD Thank you everyone for your support!!

GREAT WORK!!!!!
Isn't it exciting??!!??

Originally Posted by Angel In TN

..... you want to talk about a real change to wrap my brain around!!!....... ......... I am down another .2 this morning.

Angel:
I liked your post.
From ten years on Weight Watchers, I was a "fat is bad, eat low fat" - "saturated fat is from the devil" person. LOL (I'm being dramatic, but you get the idea) :-) I was on Atkins before - but then it worked less well for me and less well. I went back and forth.

I still have to do more research to figure out what's going to happen with my blood test results. My family doc is an old friend, and if my numbers are up, I'll get an earful!

Anyway - congrats on your loss, and glad you're with us!

Originally Posted by paulabob

Wow, two success stories in a row! Congrats ladies!

I am loading today...glad P3 is over, cause I had a TON of CDs to do this round. Woke up at the very top of my range (146.8). But at least it's in the window.

We'll miss you. Have fun loading!!!

Originally Posted by catkin

145.2 this morning! Woohoo! Down a little over a pound and a half!
Check ya later, off to work!

Yyyaaaaaayyyyyy!!!!

[Majerus]

Originally Posted by RedL.I.

Onward:

I am starting to wonder if Zycam (for the cold my husband so kindly brought home), is affecting my appetite. Yesterday was the 4th day that I could have taken or left food. But - my brother took me to a place with a band playing outside on a wharf and after drinking, I managed to eat wonkin' calories. After that, hubby made me something he whipped up in the blender that included ricotta, and agave syrup, and chocolate powder and vanilla. It was good - so I'm pretty sure I got my calories over 2000.

Seriously, this is the first time in my entire life I have had to make myself EAT. (Of course, hubby, who is 4 pounds under LDW, sat next to me and had a giant burger and onion rings....I swear...SO ridiculous). On a serious note, though, I'm really grateful and proud of him for doing HCG with me, and dropping 20; so I'm not complaining......much. It's just astounding.

RUMINATIONS

I am wondering what the percentage of we HCGers are type A people. And, of those that are, I'm wondering about the prevalence of "all or nothing" thinking. I know I have a lifelong battle with that, and a lot of my parenting was trying to help my son avoid that pitfall too. Either his room was obliterated, or every drawer was alphabetized. My entire adult life, either my weight was on the way up, or on the way down. Almost never stable, unless I hit a new set point. That set point was always ten pounds higher every 5 or so years.

There is a saying I really like:
"START AS YOU MEAN TO GO ON" This saying has served me well.

In P3 - I started as I meant to go on. I've been micro-managing my weight - or had it no where NEAR my focus for so long, that I want to be done with that. For me, personally, (and I totally get that others need to pay attention to calories and count them), that means not counting. I was a Weight Watchers leader for years. I HAD to count my points. Write them down. Gotta walk the walk if you're gonna talk the talk. I dearly want to be done with that forever!!!

I know that I am destined to continue my search for balance for the rest of my life. 40 years from now, I can just imagine pushing my walker around my house cleaning my sink with a toothbrush, or having a houseful of dust bunnies the size of poodles.

Minding the "START AS YOU MEAN TO GO ON" principle for me means always pushing the calorie envelope. Watching the scale to find the ceiling instead of a tally. I NEVER WOULD HAVE BELIEVED THIS WAS POSSIBLE: (eating so much, and so high in calories). Indeed, my posts coming out of P2 reflect that in quite an opinionated way. But, like so many other HCG results, it seems to be true.

And, after all that drivel - I have absolutely no idea what continuing on P4 will hold for me. I bought some steel cut oatmeal. I know whole grain cereals have to come back into my life. Ezekiel bread. Whole grain pasta. What will my body do? I have no clue. But this is one mind-blowing adventure, that's for sure.

My goodness gracious. I think I love you. :blush: I know you don't know me from Adam, but I've been lurking around here for quite a while...about 6 weeks to be exact. Tomorrow starts p3 for me. I just had to comment on HOW MUCH this post speaks to me. I have ZERO desire to count calories. My goal is to figure out how to pay attention to what my body is telling me. You are my HERO. I'm so grateful you have come before me to help me to see that it's possible.

I'll stop my gushing now...

PS...you look hot in your jeans...

[RedsSkinnyJeans]

You are very kind. Thank you! But in the interest of fairness, I must remind you that the "race" does not always go to the...um.....swiftest of mouth, (or something).

I'm saying that time and experience are wiser than I am. And there are several posters here that have been low carbing, or on HCG for WAY WAY longer than I have. (I'm just opinionated and have the self-righteousness of the newly converted!)

And, on a serious note, for all I know, 6 months from now, the rules of my body will change and I'll have to keep track of what I eat. But for now, for this glorious, ecstatic, euphoric moment in time, I do not. And I shall revel in it.

Welcome to the group! Glad to have you with us :-)

[Angel In TN]

Originally Posted by RedL.I.

Angel:
I liked your post.
From ten years on Weight Watchers, I was a "fat is bad, eat low fat" - "saturated fat is from the devil" person. LOL (I'm being dramatic, but you get the idea) :-) I was on Atkins before - but then it worked less well for me and less well. I went back and forth.

I still have to do more research to figure out what's going to happen with my blood test results. My family doc is an old friend, and if my numbers are up, I'll get an earful!

Anyway - congrats on your loss, and glad you're with us!

I was eating so healthy over the past five years everyone that knows me was saying, "I just don't understand why you aren't a pencil! You eat so healthy." Over the years, my body's metabolism had stalled and no matter what I ate or how I exercised I would either stay the same or gain. My HCG doctor looked at me straight in the eyes the first day after telling my life's story and said. "Where you are right now you will never be able to correct it. Fat does not make you fat. Sugar, chemicals and processed foods do! If you do this program, your body will show you that I am telling you the truth." I have experimented a little and wow one tiny bit of sugar and the cravings are back for a couple of days. We are fed so much garbage to sell processed foods (even low fat ones) to get us hooked for more. If we listened to our bodies, we would know what we need. I am sixty days sugar (except and accidental few drops vanilla extract with sugar) and artificial sweeter-free and feel better than when I was a teenager. If I am hungry I eat!!!

Thank you, Red! I am so happy that I stumbled across this site while researching. I hope you are pleasantly surprised that you are exacting numberwise where you should be.

[Majerus]

Originally Posted by RedL.I.

You are very kind. Thank you! But in the interest of fairness, I must remind you that the "race" does not always go to the...um.....swiftest of mouth, (or something).

I'm saying that time and experience are wiser than I am. And there are several posters here that have been low carbing, or on HCG for WAY WAY longer than I have. (I'm just opinionated and have the self-righteousness of the newly converted!)

And, on a serious note, for all I know, 6 months from now, the rules of my body will change and I'll have to keep track of what I eat. But for now, for this glorious, ecstatic, euphoric moment in time, I do not. And I shall revel in it.

Welcome to the group! Glad to have you with us :-)

Thanks for the welcome.

I'm not new to the numbers game, and I vowed to myself to never diet again about a year ago. It becomes an obsession for me and I end up tying my self-esteem to the scale. But I got tired of being fat. About 6 yrs ago, I was doing something similar to p4 in my life and my body was changing for the better. Then Mom died and all hell broke loose. I've been wanting to get back to that "feeding my body what it needs" thing for a long time. Sugar and processed crap (as much as I KNOW it's bad for me) had a hold on me. Now I say "See ya sucka!!!" ...and you can probably see from the # of my posts that I've been around the lc thing for a while now...I know the counting of carbs and calories thing is not something I will do. I just won't. P2 for me has not been at all about calories or counting. I eat about a palm (plus)-sized pc of meat (usually chicken) and a bunch of veggies and a pc of fruit. I've never accurately measured anything...and I don't plan on starting now. I plan to follow "protocol" with P3 by doing what he says: eating what I want until I'm satisfied and staying away from starches and sugars.

Wish me luck!

[Angel In TN]

Good luck!!!

[NeekoM]

Hey everyone! Not much time but I had to share my little victory...

SIL and I went to an old movie theater last night that I haven't been to since the beginning of the year. The thing about old theaters is that the seats are pretty narrow and last time I was there I had to squeeze in a little sideways. Well yesterday, MY HIPS DIDN'T EVEN TOUCH BOTH SIDES!!!!! Sorry, done shouting. Things like that help keep on track on weekends like this. Hope you are all doing well and enjoying lovely weather this holiday weekend! Ta-ta for now peeps!

[Majerus]

Originally Posted by Angel In TN

Good luck!!!

Thanks! And thanks to you, too, for paving the way for me.

Neeko--AWESOME non-scale victory. Yell all you want.

[porkfatrules]

Good afternoon, all!

Today, I'm -- bafflingly -- down another pound. (yes, even more below my window) I swear, I'm eating, I'm eating! So, today I had two little tubs of FAGE full-fat, then a huge plate of pork (carnitas -- yum!) fajitas with all the fixings (guac, cheese, sour cream, and more guac) (threw away the tortilla, of course!), and then ****** said that this was only going to be 1300 calories. So, I just (based on all your great advice upthread) made a bowl of smooshed up strawberries, cream cheese, HWC, and stevia. Oh my. This is better than sex. It's like ice cream, only more decadent. Like a shake, but more intense. I'm still lying on the floor, having passed out from the outrageous goodness of it.

On the subject of measuring vs. not measuring, I totally respect those who do it by instinct, but for me, that doesn't work because I'm a master of fooling myself. If I don't measure (and that means entering foods into ****** and weighing daily) I'm so able to delude myself that "it wasn't that much" ,"it was just two bites of that cheesecake," "Just one bag of popcorn at midnight, no biggie," and, "I probably haven't gained any weight." If I weren't so great at lying to myself, and so gullible when I listen to myself, I would try for the "eat until satisfied" rule. Strangely, as we've seen in the past week, when I eat until satisfied, as long as the foods are clean, I'm undereating. Go figure. But, normally it's a recipe for waking up one morning, 30 pounds heavier.

Too many posts to reply to all, but gotta say:
Neeko -- LOL on your hips not touching the sides of the seat! What a victory!

Red -- Absolutely! I'm about 90 minutes from there, great for a fun day trip -- so when I get back from vacation we should definitely plan a P-whatever-stage-we're-in-friendly meal! The waiters will be going, "Who are those two women singing "Spam spam spam spam . . ."? Bartender, cut them off . . ."

[1moretry]

Originally Posted by RedL.I.

1more try:

I admit what I said in my above post probably came out dogmatically. (Again - all or nothing thinking). If I had consequences, you BET I'd be measuring and counting! I should have said that.

While my personality can be strong, and I'm also an alpha female, I am told I'm humble. I hope that true; I never want to be the opposite. What good is it to be right if you alienate people? None. I'd rather be wrong. So, while I'm a person of strong opinions, I react well when I'm told to "jump in a lake"
:blush:

Anyway - if I did step on toes with my post - I apologize :-)
We all have to find our own path to success with this - and I think we're doing a really great job!!

No, I didn't take it that way at all. I thought you were telling yourself what you needed to hear. Our "declarations" tend to be that -- our "pep talk" and "cheerleading" for ourselves.

I had to work my way into humility (life helped me by pulling the rug out from under me a few times) and sometimes still come across as too preachy or pedantic, but early on someone on these forums called me on that and I have tried to not do that since then. I actually was coming from fear about behaviors I saw in others that I knew were harmful and wanted to "save them" from making the same mistakes I have. I also am quite a hermit and talking with people I don't know brought up a feeling of being like a fish out of water at the beginning. Now that I have completed a round, I don't feel like such a newbie re- P2, but P3 (and being on this thread for the next 6 weeks) is a whole new ball game and I am just feeling my way into it.

Thank you for your openness. It helps me feel closer to you.

[1moretry]

Originally Posted by Marocka

OK.....I can't remember when I last posted but here is my update.....

TODAY is my 1st load day...round 2.....weight...are you ready??? 212.6 lbs!! YEA BABY!! Exactly at my LIW I didn't have to do one single CD Thank you everyone for your support!!

Onward weight-loss soldiers!!!

Have a great, safe holiday!!

That's great! I was there when you were going through some challenges, and am glad you are doing so well now.

[1moretry]

Originally Posted by porkfatrules

Good afternoon, all!

Today, I'm -- bafflingly -- down another pound. (yes, even more below my window) I swear, I'm eating, I'm eating! So, today I had two little tubs of FAGE full-fat, then a huge plate of pork (carnitas -- yum!) fajitas with all the fixings (guac, cheese, sour cream, and more guac) (threw away the tortilla, of course!), and then ****** said that this was only going to be 1300 calories. So, I just (based on all your great advice upthread) made a bowl of smooshed up strawberries, cream cheese, HWC, and stevia. Oh my. This is better than sex. It's like ice cream, only more decadent. Like a shake, but more intense. I'm still lying on the floor, having passed out from the outrageous goodness of it.

On the subject of measuring vs. not measuring, I totally respect those who do it by instinct, but for me, that doesn't work because I'm a master of fooling myself. If I don't measure (and that means entering foods into ****** and weighing daily) I'm so able to delude myself that "it wasn't that much" ,"it was just two bites of that cheesecake," "Just one bag of popcorn at midnight, no biggie," and, "I probably haven't gained any weight." If I weren't so great at lying to myself, and so gullible when I listen to myself, I would try for the "eat until satisfied" rule. Strangely, as we've seen in the past week, when I eat until satisfied, as long as the foods are clean, I'm undereating. Go figure. But, normally it's a recipe for waking up one morning, 30 pounds heavier.

What a great post! I broke up laughing from the vision of you lying on the floor having a cellgasm (that's when your cells are org*smic (the built in editor didn't like how I spelled the word for a sexual climax and put in a bunch of asterisks) because of something you ate and were transported into ecstasy) over that dessert, and then I really heard you in the second paragraph. You have learned a lot and it shows! Good for you!

[nmbnancy]

Found a quick Stuffed Mushroom Recipe

12 meduim mushroom caps
1/2 cup cream cheese
1/4 cup grated cheddar cheese
Chives
Black Pepper

Mix softened cream cheese with grated cheese and chives. Lightly oil a baking dish or pan with olive oil. Stuff the mushroom caps with cream cheese mixture and sprinkle with pepper. Broil in the oven until lightly brown and bubbly. Serve warm.

Because I didn't have all the ingredients, I didn't use chives, I used grated cheese that had a mixture of cheeses and I just put them on a pan lined with foil, but they were still delicious.

My weight is still stable, so I am a happy camper