**HCG Alternative Plans for the week of 6/20/11**

[mdolph]

Dazy- I have the same issue... I lose better with more calories, within reason, lol! I try to get about 800 calories in and that seems to keep me and the scale happy. Today I only got about 500 calories in, if that, and while I know I'll see a loss I know that if I keep this up I'll stall out so I'm already planning the rest of the week's menu!

[dazygyrl]

((hug)) hope you feel better in the morning, maggie.

[PiDevil]

Originally Posted by CherylB

Pat, I'm sorry things are moving so slowly. I had great results from Apple Days when I got stuck for 3-4 days in a row. I know you said you don't eat fruit or melba, so that may not be a good idea for you. Have you tried any of the other CD's? I know there is a thread just about those and all the various ways we can get moving again.

Cheryl - I do eat melba and at least one fruit a day. I was just commenting that on Sunday when I went off plan a little, I didn't eat those 2 items. I have never done a CD in either P2 or P3 - I will consider it for tomorrow but I have always felt like tomorrow, the scale the move. Not yet....

Best of luck as you start round 2!

[mdolph]

Morning all, down 3 pounds and back in the 150's! Only 9 pounds to goal and I've got 13 more 13 more weigh-ins. I totally don't expect to hit it as I'm just not that fast of a loser on this plan (or any plan.) We're going on vacation the week of the 4th and are staying at a water park hotel for 3 days so I've gotta get myself bathing suit worthy!

Maggie, sorry for a bad day! Hope today is better!

[vli1127]

Hmmmm, I guess I missed this new thread and was still posting on the old one. I must have missed the new link to this new thread off of the old one?????????

Woot, woot. Down 2 lbs today. I feel thinner and lighter too. I walked outside this morning and actually felt like I had a bit of a spring in my step and could go a bit faster than the last time I walked.

I had supper out last night and the salad I ordered with grilled chicken comes with ranch dressing already on it. This was posted in the menu and I asked the waiter to bring vinegar on the side instead. He told me they only had balsamic and I said that was fine. When the salad came, I took a bite and the ranch dressing was on it. I sent it back and he apologized. The 2nd salad came and there was a small pitcher with what I assume was balsamic vinegar, yet it didn't look as clear as vinegar should, kind of cloudy. I poured it on any ways. I am wondering now if there was oil with it? I had a good loss anyways. But, I guess I did the best I could. Maybe next time I should just aske for lemon wedges to squeeze on top instead. That way I know what it is.

Maureen, I was on Diet Center many, many years ago (early 80's). I lost 85 lbs on that plan. Of course, as with my past experiences, I yo-yo'd back up after my first pregnancy. Have you used Wasa crackers recently in place of Melba toast?

Tracy, your goal wt is 99? How tall are you? I have been experiencing real hunger too. But usually between meals, not during.

Paula, what is LDW and CD? I am guessing that adding yogurt you are wanting to gain wt?

Dazy, love the OMMs

Cheryl, thanks for starting new thread. I too am sober. I celebrated 7 yrs May 30.

Melanie, welcome back even though I snuck in while you were gone.

Everyone else, hi.

[PiDevil]

Originally Posted by vli1127

Paula, what is LDW and CD? I am guessing that adding yogurt you are wanting to gain wt?

I'm not Paula but LDW is last dosage weight (your wt the morning of your last dosages) and CD is correction day (apple for P2, steak for P3).

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by vli1127

Paula, what is LDW and CD? I am guessing that adding yogurt you are wanting to gain wt?

PiDevil answered the acronyms, but I'm in P3. When you are more than 2 pounds over your LDW, you do a correction day. The Greek yogurt is one... I lost 3.4 pounds overnight.

[vli1127]

Thanks Pat, I hope you are doing better today.

[dazygyrl]

awesome job on the CD loss, paula!!

i was down 0.2 from my first weight yesterday. just 0.2 from low a few days ago. i was a bit surprised i wasn't down more as many times as i was in the bathroom <blush>. BUT dh and i ate at hu hot on sun so maybe i had some water retention from that (sodium). i'm good with where i am, i know it will keep going down. i was going to make today my last dosing day and move on to p3, but i don't *want* today's weight to be my LDW...lol! so on i go! will just have an interruption meal on our anniversary and cont on with p2 after that s well.

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by mdolph

Jumping in after being gone a few weeks! I decided to do 2 weeks of hhcg rogue before I go on vacation in 2 weeks. I've been doing great during the week staying very low carb although eating a good 2500 calories, but then the weekend hits and I go crazy. Right now I'm starting at 162, which is 10 pounds over my ldw and 12 pounds from goal. I'm hoping to at least get the 10 pounds gained off by the 4th of July. We shall see!

Many new faces here since I last posted just 2 weeks ago!

Melanie, good to see you again!! I am still recovering from Jamaica trip too, I hate it when I go backwards!! I am still up from my lowest too!!

Originally Posted by paulabob

PiDevil answered the acronyms, but I'm in P3. When you are more than 2 pounds over your LDW, you do a correction day. The Greek yogurt is one... I lost 3.4 pounds overnight.

Yeah Paula, glad it worked so well for you!! Love GY CD!!!! My FAV!

[Bierarsch]

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

((hug)) hope you feel better in the morning, maggie.

Originally Posted by mdolph

Morning all, down 3 pounds and back in the 150's! Only 9 pounds to goal and I've got 13 more 13 more weigh-ins. I totally don't expect to hit it as I'm just not that fast of a loser on this plan (or any plan.) We're going on vacation the week of the 4th and are staying at a water park hotel for 3 days so I've gotta get myself bathing suit worthy!

Maggie, sorry for a bad day! Hope today is better!

Thank you both! Today is a new day, and other than the Benadryl making me sleepy, I'm doing okay. Just had a meltdown yesterday and comforted myself with food. Something that I've been working on, and this was the first time in 4 rounds that I used food as a comfort, so I think that's a small victory in a way.

I was up .3 today. Back on protocol.

MDolph, what a great loss! I hope you have a fabulous time on your vacay! That sounds like a blast!

Have a great day everyone!

[Violet_Dream]

Down .2 this morning...for a total of 12.2 pounds in only twelve days. I hope everyone else is doing great and has a great day!

[MM2011]

Originally Posted by vli1127

Hmmmm, I guess I missed this new thread and was still posting on the old one. I must have missed the new link to this new thread off of the old one?????????

Woot, woot. Down 2 lbs today. I feel thinner and lighter too. I walked outside this morning and actually felt like I had a bit of a spring in my step and could go a bit faster than the last time I walked.

I had supper out last night and the salad I ordered with grilled chicken comes with ranch dressing already on it. This was posted in the menu and I asked the waiter to bring vinegar on the side instead. He told me they only had balsamic and I said that was fine. When the salad came, I took a bite and the ranch dressing was on it. I sent it back and he apologized. The 2nd salad came and there was a small pitcher with what I assume was balsamic vinegar, yet it didn't look as clear as vinegar should, kind of cloudy. I poured it on any ways. I am wondering now if there was oil with it? I had a good loss anyways. But, I guess I did the best I could. Maybe next time I should just aske for lemon wedges to squeeze on top instead. That way I know what it is.

Maureen, I was on Diet Center many, many years ago (early 80's). I lost 85 lbs on that plan. Of course, as with my past experiences, I yo-yo'd back up after my first pregnancy. Have you used Wasa crackers recently in place of Melba toast?

Tracy, your goal wt is 99? How tall are you? I have been experiencing real hunger too. But usually between meals, not during.

Paula, what is LDW and CD? I am guessing that adding yogurt you are wanting to gain wt?

Dazy, love the OMMs

Cheryl, thanks for starting new thread. I too am sober. I celebrated 7 yrs May 30.

Melanie, welcome back even though I snuck in while you were gone.

Everyone else, hi.

Hi Vicki!
Good job on the loss! I haven't tried Wasa-never did like it on DC. I will stick to the melba toast and grissini (love them, only one store around here carries them!).

So I am "stuck" at my current weight of 263.2 - 263.6 for the last four days. I am thinking it is my TOM. I think I will see if I am down tomorrow (will behave really well today-took some chicken out of the freezer), and if I am not down tomorrow, wonder if I should do an apple day? I want to be down a few more pounds before I go to P3. What do you all think?

On a positive note, somebody I hadn't seen in a while asked me yesterday if I was losing weight. Yahoo! I didn't think it was noticeable to anyone!

Just spoke to my sis in MA. Told her how much I was down-she was excited for me, asking lots of questions. She is doing WW with her daughters. I think she might come "lurk" on these boards-I've piqued her curiosity! She probably needs to lose 100 pounds or so, as do I.

Ok, get me to the (2)50s!! Onward and downward! You all have a great day!!

[MM2011]

Oh! I forgot! I just heard an ad on the radio about KetoMist. Has anyone tried this or researched it much? Just curious...love my eHCG!!

[CherylB]

Originally Posted by mdolph

Jumping in after being gone a few weeks! I decided to do 2 weeks of hhcg rogue before I go on vacation in 2 weeks. I've been doing great during the week staying very low carb although eating a good 2500 calories, but then the weekend hits and I go crazy. Right now I'm starting at 162, which is 10 pounds over my ldw and 12 pounds from goal. I'm hoping to at least get the 10 pounds gained off by the 4th of July. We shall see!

Many new faces here since I last posted just 2 weeks ago!

Hey, Melanie! That's so weird. I just thought of you yesterday. Sometimes I wonder where the old regulars have gone. It would be great if more of you came back! I hope you have a great round and a great vacation, too.

Originally Posted by Bierarsch

I had a rough day today and strayed for dinner. Immediately after I ate lunch, I had some sort of freak allergic reaction to something. I have never had that happen before, and it was a pretty swift and severe reaction, so it upset me. I have no idea what I might have eaten or come into contact with because to my knowledge I don't have allergies. I ate my normal protocol foods. So weird! I got sent home from work and dinner was my comfort. I had a salad with bacon, egg, grated cheese, with fried chicken and low fat ranch dressing. So, I'll be up tomorrow. I am going to head to bed because I am physically and emotionally tired today. Maybe some sleep will help the scale.

Everyone is doing so great! I hope y'all have a wonderful morning and the Whoosh Fairy visits!

Maggie, I'm sorry you had that allergic reaction! I'm glad you are feeling better today, though. It surely would be nice to know what it was you ate, so you can be more aware in the future. What did you eat? Some people develop food allergies as they get older.

Originally Posted by PiDevil

Cheryl - I do eat melba and at least one fruit a day. I was just commenting that on Sunday when I went off plan a little, I didn't eat those 2 items. I have never done a CD in either P2 or P3 - I will consider it for tomorrow but I have always felt like tomorrow, the scale the move. Not yet....

Best of luck as you start round 2!

Okay. Misunderstood! Then I would definitely do an apple day. I don't like to go more than 3-4 days without a loss of some kind. Apple days work well for me, and I love them. Thanks for the well-wishes for my R2! I hope it is a good one, too.

Originally Posted by vli1127

Hmmmm, I guess I missed this new thread and was still posting on the old one. I must have missed the new link to this new thread off of the old one?????????

Woot, woot. Down 2 lbs today. I feel thinner and lighter too. I walked outside this morning and actually felt like I had a bit of a spring in my step and could go a bit faster than the last time I walked.

Tracy, your goal wt is 99? How tall are you? I have been experiencing real hunger too. But usually between meals, not during.

Dazy, love the OMMs

Cheryl, thanks for starting new thread. I too am sober. I celebrated 7 yrs May 30.

Melanie, welcome back even though I snuck in while you were gone.

Everyone else, hi.

Congrats on sobriety! Today is 5 months for me. I don't count the days, but I do count the months, on the 21st. Yip-yip! Sorry you missed the post I put on the old thread that had the new thread's link. I tried to make it stand out! I even gave the post a title. That sucks about the salad dressing at the restaurant. Maybe next time ask for oil and vinegar so they will bring the two cruets and you can see that they are indeed separate. On the 2 lb loss and feeling lighter!

Originally Posted by paulabob

PiDevil answered the acronyms, but I'm in P3. When you are more than 2 pounds over your LDW, you do a correction day. The Greek yogurt is one... I lost 3.4 pounds overnight.

Awesome CD results!

Originally Posted by MM2011

Oh! I forgot! I just heard an ad on the radio about KetoMist. Has anyone tried this or researched it much? Just curious...love my eHCG!!

I don't know what that is. ???

I am pooped out today, after helping, one of my sisters move some boxes and crap (and I do mean CRAP) into her new apartment. They don't actually move in until the end of July, but the guy is letting them move in boxes and smaller items, just not their furniture. And it was sooooo hot today! We were cooked.

Got the results from yesterdays blood work back and the Dr's assistant called with concerns. Cholesterol is high (240's), liver enzymes are high and my Thyroid is in a hyper-mode. I have Hashi's so maybe that is to be expected. I've heard that our thyroid goes into hyper/hypo phases on its way to complete death, due to the antibodies attacking it. I will remind them of that when they call me again to tell me what they are wanting to change.

I stopped taking my Statin months ago, too. I read on LCF that statins do nothing for women and can be harmful. So, Doc is probably looking at the statin he ordered for me and thinking that I'm taking that and will want to increase the dang dose. If only I could actually talk to HIM and not have all the middle-men! It takes 10 times longer to get things straightened out this way. I'm going to look into more natural ways to drop the cholesterol.

Didn't weigh today because of being mid-load. Will weigh on the morning of my first VLCD, which may or may not be tomorrow. I haven't decided yet.

Congrats to all the LOSERS!

[Bierarsch]

Originally Posted by CherylB

Maggie, I'm sorry you had that allergic reaction! I'm glad you are feeling better today, though. It surely would be nice to know what it was you ate, so you can be more aware in the future. What did you eat? Some people develop food allergies as they get older.Got the results from yesterdays blood work back and the Dr's assistant called with concerns. Cholesterol is high (240's), liver enzymes are high and my Thyroid is in a hyper-mode. I have Hashi's so maybe that is to be expected. I've heard that our thyroid goes into hyper/hypo phases on its way to complete death, due to the antibodies attacking it. I will remind them of that when they call me again to tell me what they are wanting to change.

I stopped taking my Statin months ago, too. I read on LCF that statins do nothing for women and can be harmful. So, Doc is probably looking at the statin he ordered for me and thinking that I'm taking that and will want to increase the dang dose. If only I could actually talk to HIM and not have all the middle-men! It takes 10 times longer to get things straightened out this way. I'm going to look into more natural ways to drop the cholesterol.

I have no idea what it could have been. I hate chicken with caribbean jerk seasoning, sliced cucumber, melba toast, and an apple. I've had this meal several times. It was so weird! I am thinking of getting allergy testing done to see if that helps pinpoint what it was.

I have had elevated liver enzymes while on this diet. My doctor said it was because of the body burning the fat so quickly. I have also been hyperthyroid while on the diet. My guess was because HCG stimulates the hypothalamus. I am Hashis, too. I would not take the statin because your cholesterol should drop as your weight goes down. You can always take fish oil if you get to goal weight and it's still high.

[CherylB]

Yeah. I am going to find ways to bring it down without Statins. I am on so many dang pills! You would not believe it if I told you. Talk about a reason for your liver to be over-worked! If I cut down on these pills, that would give it a good rest. I'm going to talk to him about THAT matter.

In the meantime, I'm going to see if I can cut back on some of the over-the-counter crap I take. Maybe it's time to just see if less really is more.

I am also going to drink more water. I haven't been drinking nearly enough, relying more on diet sodas (and before that, coffee and diet iced tea.) I used to drink more water, but I have gotten away from it. I have a big full bottle beside me right now, and I will be guzzling it soon. (Brain freeze coming up! I put lots of ice in it.)

Thanks for the help, ladies. I appreciate it! I hope you all (we all) have a peaceful evening and sweet dreams.

PS: R2P2VLCD1 tomorrow! I didn't eat half the stuff I intended to on my load, but time to get crackin'!

[WomanOfGod]

Originally Posted by CherylB

This is the beginning of a brand new week, and for me, a new round! Wooohooo! Let's kick some serious butt! Let's set some new records! All you roguers, whoever you are (and you know who you are ), come join in the fun!

Hi Cheryl! I wanted you to know because of you, I've tried the popcorn and am totally enjoying it! Do you eat the whole bag and count it as your 2 servings of melba or grissini? I have only eaten half of the bag. I also enjoy the kettle corn one better because I love sweet and salty!!!!!!

[CherylB]

I use one bag for the daily grain dose. Sometimes I've been naughty and had more than one bag, but then I get into sodium troubles, from the butter spray and popcorn cheese powder. I've never tried the Kettle Corn one yet. I'll have to see if I like it, too. Do you add anything to the kettle corn?

[WomanOfGod]

Originally Posted by CherylB

I use one bag for the daily grain dose. Sometimes I've been naughty and had more than one bag, but then I get into sodium troubles, from the butter spray and popcorn cheese powder. I've never tried the Kettle Corn one yet. I'll have to see if I like it, too. Do you add anything to the kettle corn?

Yes! I added the ICBINB and the white chedder flavoring to my kettle corn! I went out and bought every flavoring I could find in the stores here (Ranch, Nacho Cheese, White Chedder, Jalepeno and Butter).

I actually dont want the regular box of 100 cal butter one now that I've tried the 100 cal kettle corn. I will only be purchasing the kettle corn from now on ~ maybe I'll give the regular box to a friend!

[Missouri_Librarian]

Good evening lovelies...

Just got in from our anniversary day trip...

Just a quick minute to say hello to all and a big CONGRATS to everyone for your losses and successful day...


I was down 1 pd this morning which made it 12 pds in 9 days, will sure take it..

Cheryl, i was also on statins and also 4 prescription strength omega 3 for my cholesterol also finally just stopped taking them after the numbers were not getting any better with meds after 2 years ,,,,figured, diet, exercise and niacin would do most help...my sis who is a doc said heredity is my biggest culprit and nothing will really help that...

WomanofGod, I have also been wanting to try the kettle corn, thanks for the heads up, I am loving my nightly treat

have a great night all, and may we see great losses in the morning...

[mdolph]

6 down and 6 to go! I lost another 3 overnight, which, while I find this amazing, my husband lost 6 overnight. He always has to be a showoff, lol! Anyway, 6 pounds to goal. I'm already growing bored of eating this way after indulging in cocoa covered almonds and peanut butter the last few weeks. I only gained what I did from an over indulgence of pizza and Mexican food, lol! Anyway, making me a big pot of cabbage and beef in hopes that keeps me motivated as its my favorite p2 meal!

I love the popcorn too but everytime I eat it I get a slight gain. I still keep it around, just in case! Gotta put lots of crap on it though to make it edible!

As for all the statins talk, I have nothing to say! While just about everyone in my family has high cholesterol and blood pressure I never have. My blood pressure actually gets too low at times. I did have insullin resistance and took metaformin but not anymore! I don't take any meds normally but have started to double does a multivitamin as my nails and hair have really suffered from all this dieting and my potassium and iron were low on my pre-surgery results.

[mdolph]

Cathy- how was your trip? How bad did you gain? We're just going about 3 1/2 hours south to Indy. That's about as far as I think the kids are ready for, but we're staying at a water park hotel, going to the zoo and to the children's museum. Oh, and we're going on a Diner's Drive-through and Dives tour for our meals. Yeah, I'm guessing there's gonna be a gain on the scale, lol!

[PiDevil]

Mornin'

OK, an apple day for me after a 9 day stall. I will check in tomorrow with results.

Have a happy mid-week!

[dazygyrl]

morning!

i am up 0.4 today....but it's hormonal....my ovaries feel like they're about to explode!

so i checked my body fat the first day i loaded on 5/23....29.8%! rechecked it this morning, 6/22....26.4%!! dropped 3.4% in a month! how cool is that? BMI is in "normal" range on my little machine thingy.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by PiDevil

Mornin'

OK, an apple day for me after a 9 day stall. I will check in tomorrow with results.

Have a happy mid-week!

I'm doing a second GY day. I bounced up after eating normally yesterday on P3.

Enjoy your apples...I'll try to enjoy my yogurt.

Hope we both get a good loss that STICKS! I want to enjoy my weekend!

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

so i checked my body fat the first day i loaded on 5/23....29.8%! rechecked it this morning, 6/22....26.4%!! dropped 3.4% in a month! how cool is that? BMI is in "normal" range on my little machine thingy.

That is absolutely a fantastic improvement! I usually drop 2% or so per round...you've done AMAZING!

[dazygyrl]

thanks, paula! feels good and kinda motivates to keep at my original plan of doing a 40 day round. i was wavering about stopping at 30, but this helps the motivation.

hope your CD is successful.

[PiDevil]

Originally Posted by paulabob

Hope we both get a good loss that STICKS! I want to enjoy my weekend!

From your lips to the-big-guy-up-above's ears!

Is your GY day a CD for P3? Can you have any fruit with the GY?

[dazygyrl]

anyone ever done a strawberry CD instead of an apple day? just thinking out loud if i ever decide to do one.