P2 Simeons protocol weekly thread for 5/23

[catrightsell]

I'm up one LB today... expected... I tried to only eat 300 cals (since I had already had 200 for the day) at Golden Corral at my stepsons Birthday dinner. Fail. But thought because I did 12 zip lines and hiked a good stretch maybe I burned enough calories to make up for it... not so... so I am going to be very strict again, and just get back on track. I ate mostly vegetables but they are greasy. And I had the crabmeat salad, but it did have white something er other on it... prolly mayo...

[1moretry]

Am down only 0.2 today, blood sugar going down again from an uptick yesterday. Was very hungry last night (ate 3/4 grapefruit at dinner instead of 1/2, and won't do that again!), but felt great when I woke up this morning. Despite the small loss, my body is feeling slimmer to me and seems to want to stand more erect.

C'Marie, thank you for that detailed information on starting P3. It is very helpful and helps me know how to plan for it. I am going to stay low-glycemic on all fruits, adding in blueberries, blackberries (am allergic to raspberries) and cherries when/if I can get them. Apples, peaches and pears are too high in sugar for me.

I hope I have a better loss tomorrow, but so far, so good.

[Dnoake]

C'Marie (or anyone) - I gave up bootcamp 4x a week to start hcg. I'd been doing it for 9 months. So in my case, I was hoping to start working out again in P3.

Any suggestions? I'm confused after reading your post below, especially since working out has always been part of my regular routine.

Originally Posted by C'Marie

Read through the P3 threads. You are supposed to maintain within a 4-pound window, 2 pounds above your Last Dose Weight, and 2 pounds below your LDW. No more or less. That is what "sets" your weight, really. P3 is not the time to gain or lose. It's probably more important to follow the guidelines here than even when doing the dieting part. No starch/sugars, not even your grissini or melba.

You could start to work out, but if you're like me and starting from zero, take it very slowly. You don't want your weight being set to be dependent upon your workout calories. You want it set on the type of life you normally have led.

How close are you to being done with the diet part?

[Dnoake]

Morning all - in onederland one day, and back out. Today i weighed in +2, totally my fault. Vlcd14, 201.2.

Started yesterday great and pumped whole in onederland, but it was short lived. Went to the baseball game, had 1/2 a Cuban sandwich (while watching my skinny friends eat a whole one!!!), then met some friends at the beach later in the evening and dinner was at an Italian place. Two slices of thin crust margarita pizza was the lesser of all evils.

Back on track already and gonna get back to onederland. No worries for me.

[C'Marie]

Originally Posted by Dnoake

C'Marie (or anyone) - I gave up bootcamp 4x a week to start hcg. I'd been doing it for 9 months. So in my case, I was hoping to start working out again in P3.

Any suggestions? I'm confused after reading your post below, especially since working out has always been part of my regular routine.

Dnoake: I'm not an exerciser currently. I had to stop physical therapy for the hcg diet because my doc said I wasn't having enough protein to rebuild muscle. Now that I am done with my R5, I am starting up again next week. It is my UNDERSTANDING that you can of course workout some, lightly, if your body is used to it, even in P2. The whole idea of not doing it until you're stable at least in P3 is so that your body doesn't need it to be stable - that your maintenance isn't dependent upon you working out, that it burns what you eat without it, and if you do workout, it considers it "extra" -
Hope that helps.

There is a whole hcg exercisers thread that minimonkey and others are on. They usually tell people on hcg to up their protein if they're going to work out hard. Otherwise, just walking or some light swimming is what's ok per Dr. Simeons.

[nmbnancy]

Originally Posted by C'Marie

When you get closer, we will walk you through it. Just read all you can. In the short version, these are my P3 suggestions, at least for the first week to help you stabilize and not have really volatile changes:

1. Immediately double protein for lunch and dinner - 3.5 each becomes at least 7 oz each. You can now eat fattier cuts of meats, and you can mix proteins.
2. Add eggs, 2 or 3, for breakfast
3. Keep up your veggies, keep to non-starchy ones, but you can mix them and you can add some that aren't on the VLCD.
4. Eat one or two non-starchy, not-too-sweet fruits. I go to the same VLCD ones but add maybe peaches, etc - they're the same chemical composition of apples. A few grapes, but not a bunch of mangos, pineapple, etc.
5. Add a few healthy fats, olive oil in a homemade dressing with just spices, no sugars or starches or msg in them that way. Avocado slices, a bit of butter, maybe a little heavy whipping cream in your coffee if you tolerate it. Dairy and nuts can be problematic for some people in the first week. If you eat too much fat right away, you can have tummy issues. A few olives for garnish of your salad, egg yolks now unrestricted, etc.
6. Keep up your water intake
7. Don't eat super late. Give your body some time to process food before gong down for the night. That one thing makes a huge difference for me.

You want your weight to set at a higher calorie intake than you were before. Google a chart that will give you the calories you need to maintain your weight at its current weight once you stop.

I try to do that kind of a plan for at least the first several days. Then I will add in bigger amounts of fats, dairy, etc a little at a time to make sure I have no lurking food sensitivities. Since we've been restricted and clean eating on the VLCD, it is a perfect time to listen to our bodies and pay attention if there is a problem.

Thank you so much for these tips. Also for the personal one you sent re: anniversary.

[catrightsell]

Today I had
Breakfast - Coffee & water
Snack - half a grapefruit
Lunch - a lean beef patty and broccoli
Dinner - Boiled chicken in chicken broth & chives
Snack - 6 wheat thin crackers.
have a lot of work on the computer tonight and will try and get all my water intake...

[Dnoake]

Back down in onederland... 199.6. I'll take it!! Vlcd14 (or 15) and I'm down 11.6.

[catrightsell]

Originally Posted by Dnoake

Back down in onederland... 199.6. I'll take it!! Vlcd14 (or 15) and I'm down 11.6.

I was up one for a restaurant slip up... but up 2 more today. I think the extreme outdoor adventure day... may have some impact, as my muscles are sore... I didn't veer off plan yesterday and will stay on track today... and see if a woosh (multi-lb loss) comes soon. Hope this isn't a trend... I was really losing good! Oh well... not complaining...

[catrightsell]

back to 260 but waiting to see if it's a 'real' stall (of at least 4 days)... or will come back down with good protocol behavior!

[shelbyla]

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P2 Simeons Protocol Week of 5/30/11