What is the biggest change going from p2 to p3

CMac · 05-19-2011, 11:10 AM

I see lots of people saying they eat over 2000 cals a day and eat things I only dream I could eat right now.

is the rule only no sugar no carbs? What else is the difference and how do I keep from gaining if I actually eat a big huge rack of ribs and beans lol or a ton of queso.

BigBravesGirl · 05-19-2011, 11:14 AM

Basically, that's it. No "white poisons" as my doctor calls them (sugar, rice, potatoes, bread, etc) and no starchy veggies / fruits.

Be careful with the sugar in the sauce on those ribs, otherwise, have at it.

emel · 05-19-2011, 11:21 AM

Ribs with sugar free sauce are fine. Beans are starchy and are a P4 choice.

I started out carefully monitoring calories and ratio of fat, carb, and protein.
After a few days I just ate to satisfaction, choosing reasonable foods within the rules of the phase.

I think choosing reasonable foods and enjoying them is better because it retrains me to eat healthful foods. Yes, I still eat some sugar free dessert or a cheesy veggie or pork rind crusted chicken now and then, but most days I eat moderately with cleaner cooking styles.

LaraSuzz · 05-19-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CMac

I see lots of people saying they eat over 2000 cals a day and eat things I only dream I could eat right now.

is the rule only no sugar no carbs? What else is the difference and how do I keep from gaining if I actually eat a big huge rack of ribs and beans lol or a ton of queso.

I would be careful with salt and stay away from beans and nuts except almonds too. There's a great reference page here, its yahoo hcg diet page lots of great info... sign up and click on "files" HcgDieters : The #1 site for the HCG Diet Protocol

CherylB · 05-19-2011, 11:29 AM

Thanks for posting that link. I've never been on that website before! I am at the tail-end of my R1P2, so this thread is appreciated. What's wrong with "pork rind-encrusted chicken"? Isn't that okay for P3?

emel · 05-19-2011, 11:39 AM

Yes, CherylB.... pork rinds are allowed on P3. I'm just saying I personally only use them occasionally. I build my menus around good protein and good veggies, toss in a fruit or two, and then decide if I want to add something more for flavor than for nutrition, such as a cheesy sauce or a pork rind coating, or a sugar-free dessert.

All are allowable, but there's more nutrition in broccoli with a little olive oil and sea salt than there is in a piece of cocoa crack.

dawnyama · 05-19-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CMac

how do I keep from gaining if I actually eat a big huge rack of ribs and beans lol or a ton of queso.

You don't eat them

You silly!!! Beans are a NO NO for P3. Save them for P4. Ribs are fine in P3, however make sure they are not slathered in sugary BBQ sauce. There are great recipes for sugar free recipes for all sorts of P3 foods right here at LCFs. This is the link to our recipe forum with tons of great recipes:
Lowcarb Recipe Help & Suggestions - Low Carb Friends

Happy cooking!!

CherylB · 05-19-2011, 01:40 PM

I hear ya, Emel. I totally agree. Nutrition is important, not just losing weight and maintaining the loss. Quality food rawks!

emel · 05-19-2011, 02:46 PM

IMO, maintaining = eating for nutrition with occasional treats.

barbie · 05-21-2011, 10:36 AM

Isn't it strange (nervous) suddenly Eating again?? It will be for me!!

LaraSuzz · 05-21-2011, 10:51 AM

Mmm ribs sound good, lol.

Lbibclc · 05-21-2011, 11:29 AM

I have done the best in P3 when I double what I eat in P2 and add fats. This would include mixing veggies and more kinds of veggies. The two times I start out that way I stabilized really well.
eggs for breakfast with salsa cooked in oil
big salad with chicken for lunch including avocado and full fat dressing.
Meat and hot veggies for dinner
Snacks 1-2 fruits a day, pork rinds, deer jerky or veggies.

Since we make our own deer jerky I can control what is on it. Dry rubbed smoked meat help with that BBQ desire!

05-21-2011, 11:29 AM	#12
Lbibclc Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 428 Gallery: Lbibclc Stats: 231.8/132 54/5-6 WOE: Primal/HHCG Start Date: August 2009	I have done the best in P3 when I double what I eat in P2 and add fats. This would include mixing veggies and more kinds of veggies. The two times I start out that way I stabilized really well. eggs for breakfast with salsa cooked in oil big salad with chicken for lunch including avocado and full fat dressing. Meat and hot veggies for dinner Snacks 1-2 fruits a day, pork rinds, deer jerky or veggies. Since we make our own deer jerky I can control what is on it. Dry rubbed smoked meat help with that BBQ desire! __________________ Liz B "It's not important if you win 100% of the time, just that you try 100% of the time"

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05-19-2011, 11:10 AM	#1
CMac Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 230 Gallery: CMac Start Date: 05/10/11	What is the biggest change going from p2 to p3 I see lots of people saying they eat over 2000 cals a day and eat things I only dream I could eat right now. is the rule only no sugar no carbs? What else is the difference and how do I keep from gaining if I actually eat a big huge rack of ribs and beans lol or a ton of queso.

05-19-2011, 11:14 AM	#2
BigBravesGirl Plastic Wrap Ninja Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: moving to TWOterville Posts: 43,159 Gallery: BigBravesGirl Stats: 397 / hanging on / 2?? WOE: My way! Start Date: today	Basically, that's it. No "white poisons" as my doctor calls them (sugar, rice, potatoes, bread, etc) and no starchy veggies / fruits. Be careful with the sugar in the sauce on those ribs, otherwise, have at it.

05-19-2011, 11:21 AM	#3
emel Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: VA Posts: 16,601 Gallery: emel	Ribs with sugar free sauce are fine. Beans are starchy and are a P4 choice. I started out carefully monitoring calories and ratio of fat, carb, and protein. After a few days I just ate to satisfaction, choosing reasonable foods within the rules of the phase. I think choosing reasonable foods and enjoying them is better because it retrains me to eat healthful foods. Yes, I still eat some sugar free dessert or a cheesy veggie or pork rind crusted chicken now and then, but most days I eat moderately with cleaner cooking styles.

05-19-2011, 11:29 AM	#5
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,345 Gallery: CherylB Stats: [235] 214 -- 135 WOE: Figuring it out as we speak Start Date: Every day	Thanks for posting that link. I've never been on that website before! I am at the tail-end of my R1P2, so this thread is appreciated. What's wrong with "pork rind-encrusted chicken"? Isn't that okay for P3?

05-19-2011, 11:39 AM	#6
emel Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: VA Posts: 16,601 Gallery: emel	Yes, CherylB.... pork rinds are allowed on P3. I'm just saying I personally only use them occasionally. I build my menus around good protein and good veggies, toss in a fruit or two, and then decide if I want to add something more for flavor than for nutrition, such as a cheesy sauce or a pork rind coating, or a sugar-free dessert. All are allowable, but there's more nutrition in broccoli with a little olive oil and sea salt than there is in a piece of cocoa crack.

05-19-2011, 01:40 PM	#8
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,345 Gallery: CherylB Stats: [235] 214 -- 135 WOE: Figuring it out as we speak Start Date: Every day	I hear ya, Emel. I totally agree. Nutrition is important, not just losing weight and maintaining the loss. Quality food rawks!

05-19-2011, 02:46 PM	#9
emel Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: VA Posts: 16,601 Gallery: emel	IMO, maintaining = eating for nutrition with occasional treats.

05-21-2011, 10:36 AM	#10
barbie Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Wi Posts: 169 Gallery: barbie WOE: Atkins to HCG	Isn't it strange (nervous) suddenly Eating again?? It will be for me!!

05-21-2011, 10:51 AM	#11
LaraSuzz Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,777 Gallery: LaraSuzz Stats: baby steps WOE: Dr. Atw Simeons Protocol Start Date: restart 3/5/2012 multiple rounds	Mmm ribs sound good, lol.