anyone not eat fruit/carb?? short 200-250 calories

[lovebeingmom]

i'm insulin resistant and when not doing HCG i only eat veggies, protein and fats

I dont eat fruit
so the first three days I didn't have the carb or fruit just the protein and veggie

i did have the apples today but i felt shaky and cravings came pouring back

i didn't like it at all

the thing is, without those two i'm short about 200-250 calories

anyone else with this problem?

i'm also wondering if thats why i didn't lose and the scale as of right now puts me at not losing tomorrow either.

[CMac]

I'm no pro but could you eat more protein to make up loss? Why won't you do the carb makes you crave ? I have to do the fruit and carb 2x a day or I will get low blood sugar. I'm still short about 50 cals a day.

[lovebeingmom]

yeah i haven't had breads or fruit in a while and my blood sugar has stabilized nice. when not on HCG i eat a lot of fat a day too

and I felt fine the first two days, just thought the apple would be good and satisfying but it wasn't

[C'Marie]

You can increase your veggies (it would take a lot, LOL) to up your calories if you aren't going to eat the fruit or the melba. Try another fruit. Some of us do very well on strawberries, some of us have problems with the apples and oranges.

[lovebeingmom]

thanks will try the strawberries.

cheap now in NJ

[LilacBruze]

I second the strawberries. They are lower on the glycemic index than apples are. I am insulin resistant type II diabetic and my blood sugar does not react as much to them as to apples.

[halebop]

I have found that I have to eat my fruit with or right after a meal or I wind up hungrier than I was before I had it. Not sure if that is true for anyone else but figured I'd mention it in case it might help.

[catjrow3]

I dont eat the fruit or the melba/grissini this round and I upped my protein in place of it. I am doing okay! I miss the fruit, but not the results of cravings and urges either (candida issues, and probably insulin issues too)

[nurseypoo5]

the apples are the highlight of my day. Im insulin resistant also (pcos) but honestly it didnt bring on cravings infact i find its the one time of the day i get the most energy, and it totally helps with bernice...big time...im almost sure thats the reason i see bernice every now and again.

That being said everyone is different...i have cravings, but its for mexican food, i dont think anything is gonna help with that bad boy except a giant margarita and an enchilada!

i agree, try berries. almost any berry is very low glycemic and shouldnt affect insulin resistant people. Blue berries are probably the lowest but also the most tasteless, but black berries and raspberries are good too and yummo but $$$$ strawberries are good right now and cheap go for it. See what happens. I do not think berries are any worse than tomato.

[torister]

I eat strawberries and grapefruit....YUM!

[babihuey]

Originally Posted by lovebeingmom

i'm insulin resistant and when not doing HCG i only eat veggies, protein and fats

I dont eat fruit
so the first three days I didn't have the carb or fruit just the protein and veggie

i did have the apples today but i felt shaky and cravings came pouring back

i didn't like it at all

the thing is, without those two i'm short about 200-250 calories

anyone else with this problem?

i'm also wondering if thats why i didn't lose and the scale as of right now puts me at not losing tomorrow either.

Just started the Hcg diet and read your post, was wondering if you did ok on weightloss while not eating fruit.??

[buttah]

Had the same issue being under in calories w/out bread/fruit. Upped my veggies quite a bit (most nutritionally similar to bread/fruit anyway) and then started having just one fruit, no breads. That's been my sweet spot.

None of it really altered weight loss that I could tell, though. And I think it's good to have a bit of everything, so your body's used to it by P3.

[Felina]

I always have my two fruits. I have one in the am about 10:30. I really enjoy the fruits and the Melba. I eat them so slowly to make them last.

Even with the fruits and Melba, I stay in ketosis, so I don't think it's spiking my blood sugar.

I'm on day 11 and only had one day that I ate both meals. So I eat the fruit and one Melba, but only one meal because I am not hungry. My round is going well so far.

[babihuey]

Originally Posted by Felina

I always have my two fruits. I have one in the am about 10:30. I really enjoy the fruits and the Melba. I eat them so slowly to make them last.

Even with the fruits and Melba, I stay in ketosis, so I don't think it's spiking my blood sugar.

I'm on day 11 and only had one day that I ate both meals. So I eat the fruit and one Melba, but only one meal because I am not hungry. My round is going well so far.

I thought that I read that if you took in less than 500 calories that the body would go into starvation mode , instead of burning its own fat reserve ? I have been eating a 100 calorie serving of a veg. to replace the fruits, but not because I am hungry, are you saying your still losing fat(weight) and not muscle under 500 calories as well.

[buttah]

Simeons said it was NOT required to eat all the food if patients were not hungry for it. The body does not go into starvation mode on HCG because during it, the body is getting calories from stored fat. For any other diet, 500 calories WILL put you into starvation mode.

[manders]

I don't eat either the fruits or the melba. but I do eat quite a bit of tomato so that has sugars in it.

[babihuey]

Originally Posted by buttah

Simeons said it was NOT required to eat all the food if patients were not hungry for it. The body does not go into starvation mode on HCG because during it, the body is getting calories from stored fat. For any other diet, 500 calories WILL put you into starvation mode.

I don't know where I read it because I have done so much research , I remember that when your on hcg you don't go into starvation mode because the hcg releases 1500 to 2000 calories from fat into your system as long as you consume 500 calories, but that the body needed 500 to use in order to make it do that with hcg ?? I didn't read the entire book that Simeon's wrote , but read this in other research ?? So it is ok then to go under 500 calories because I am not eating the Melba toast and the fruits and I can replace one with veggies but really just was not hungry for any more and I know it was under 500 , also is the Juice of a Lemon figured into that 500 count?

[cocoapeanut]

It's fine to eat fewer than 500 calories, especially if you're not hungry for it. I counted calories my first round and was consistently between 375-475 almost every day. It didn't really make a difference. Also I'm pretty sure the juice of the lemon factors in, but it's not a whole lot of calories anyways.

I wouldn't think that your body would require exactly 500 calories in order to do anything. I'm of the opinion that we are not computers and don't function like bank accounts.. Eat the food if you're hungry, because your body does actually need it if you're hungry. If you're not..don't worry about it Simeons warned against focusing on the specific amount of calories and coming up with crazy ways to make them up if you fell short, but he was totally fine with his patients not eating their full allotment if they didn't want to..in fact, many of them didn't!

HTH

[buttah]

Originally Posted by babihuey

I don't know where I read it because I have done so much research , I remember that when your on hcg you don't go into starvation mode because the hcg releases 1500 to 2000 calories from fat into your system as long as you consume 500 calories, but that the body needed 500 to use in order to make it do that with hcg ?? I didn't read the entire book that Simeon's wrote , but read this in other research ?? So it is ok then to go under 500 calories because I am not eating the Melba toast and the fruits and I can replace one with veggies but really just was not hungry for any more and I know it was under 500 , also is the Juice of a Lemon figured into that 500 count?

Actually, that is against everything I've read. What you may be confusing you that HAS been written...is that if you eat MORE than 500 calories, according to Simeons, your body may not use the stored fat. But it's up to you what you want to do. Simeons, my clinic, and Robin Woodall, author of Weight Loss Apocalypse ALL say the 500 calories is a max, not a minimum. In fact, Simeons calls the VLCD a 500 calorie diet, but he never really says to count the calories. He even writes that all calories are not equal. If you eat those foods in those amounts, you will always be at or below 500.

As most are telling you here, YES, it is okay to eat below 500 calories if you are not hungry for them.

[babihuey]

Originally Posted by buttah

Actually, that is against everything I've read. What you may be confusing you that HAS been written...is that if you eat MORE than 500 calories, according to Simeons, your body may not use the stored fat. But it's up to you what you want to do. Simeons, my clinic, and Robin Woodall, author of Weight Loss Apocalypse ALL say the 500 calories is a max, not a minimum. In fact, Simeons calls the VLCD a 500 calorie diet, but he never really says to count the calories. He even writes that all calories are not equal. If you eat those foods in those amounts, you will always be at or below 500.

As most are telling you here, YES, it is okay to eat below 500 calories if you are not hungry for them.

Thank you for the information , you are very knowledgeable , starting week 2 and going strong , I am loving the energy I have , may be the green tea I am drinking because I have never drank it before.

[babihuey]

Originally Posted by cocoapeanut

It's fine to eat fewer than 500 calories, especially if you're not hungry for it. I counted calories my first round and was consistently between 375-475 almost every day. It didn't really make a difference. Also I'm pretty sure the juice of the lemon factors in, but it's not a whole lot of calories anyways.

I wouldn't think that your body would require exactly 500 calories in order to do anything. I'm of the opinion that we are not computers and don't function like bank accounts.. Eat the food if you're hungry, because your body does actually need it if you're hungry. If you're not..don't worry about it Simeons warned against focusing on the specific amount of calories and coming up with crazy ways to make them up if you fell short, but he was totally fine with his patients not eating their full allotment if they didn't want to..in fact, many of them didn't!

HTH

Thank you , good information , appreciate it !

[C'Marie]

You may find on occasion a piece of the allowed fruits will be really yummy.... just saying! They are allowed, so if you want it, eat it! I usually ended up with one a day. Sometimes I ate it with a meal, sometimes completely by itself like a dessert or a bedtime snack. I made a frosty drink out of frozen strawberries, a little water, and some spinach and stevia. Also lemon celery smoothies are really good.