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[MagieDen]

[LilacBruze]

I have to say that I'm a little distressed.

NOT because I gained 3.5 lbs in one day. I expected that and braced myself for it.

But my blood sugar went from an average of 150 (I'm diabetic) to an all time high of 318 last night. I was beside myself and SO upset. It was a horrible way to wrap up my birthday.

I didn't even have any birthday cake and the only sweets I had yesterday were cheesecake in the afternoon and ONE mango margarita at dinner. Even before starting Induction when I was regularly eating sweets, my blood sugar has never went above 208 so this REALLY concerns me. I know that if I call my doctor and tell him, he will tell me to stop the diet immediately (even if it's not related).

I've said it before in various threads here that a low carb WOE HAS to become a WOL for me in order to manage my diabetes, and this was hit home yet AGAIN for me last night. I don't think I went "hog wild" in carbs either as my main focus was fat. But my body obviously freaked out over what carbs (I had some mac 'n cheese, cheesecake, and tortilla chips with my guacamole) I DID consume, and my mind followed suit as soon as I saw that number.

I hope today is better. I woke up with my blood sugar at 174, still high but at least not freak out high.

[MagieDen]

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

I have to say that I'm a little distressed.

NOT because I gained 3.5 lbs in one day. I expected that and braced myself for it.

But my blood sugar went from an average of 150 (I'm diabetic) to an all time high of 318 last night. I was beside myself and SO upset. It was a horrible way to wrap up my birthday.

I didn't even have any birthday cake and the only sweets I had yesterday were cheesecake in the afternoon and ONE mango margarita at dinner. Even before starting Induction when I was regularly eating sweets, my blood sugar has never went above 208 so this REALLY concerns me. I know that if I call my doctor and tell him, he will tell me to stop the diet immediately (even if it's not related).

I've said it before in various threads here that a low carb WOE HAS to become a WOL for me in order to manage my diabetes, and this was hit home yet AGAIN for me last night. I don't think I went "hog wild" in carbs either as my main focus was fat. But my body obviously freaked out over what carbs (I had some mac 'n cheese, cheesecake, and tortilla chips with my guacamole) I DID consume, and my mind followed suit as soon as I saw that number.

I hope today is better. I woke up with my blood sugar at 174, still high but at least not freak out high.

Are you on medication for your Diabetes? If you are I wouldn't stop your medication just yet. I would continue to take your medication and monitor you BS very closely for the first few weeks. When I say monitor I mean monitor very closely than usual. You ate things that make many of us Diabetics have high readings. I had the same thing but not as high as your readings, I am also a Diabetic. I take Meteformin abd still am taking it but my problem is morning fasting sugar readings. Since starting hHCG Diet my morning readings have gone from anywhere between 140-135 to 110's and have even seen 100. I am on med's and montior daily. Walking is good to bring those high readings down as well as plenty of water, it will get better I promise and if not than this WOE is not for you(I think you will be surprised at your readings, just give it a week at least).

[LilacBruze]

I take Metformin and Onglyza and no I did not stop taking it. What I did not take yesterday was my additional supplements of banaba leaf, bitter melon, and mulberry/cinnamon/gymnestra complex because I was going to cut out the additional supplements I take so as to not interfere with the hHcg, you should see the fistful of pills I usually choke down in the morning!

I am trying to tell myself that it was just my body reacting to the flood of carb/sugar intake after 9 weeks of 20 carbs a day and no sugar. I am calmer this morning as it went down but you should have heard/seen me last night, I was telling my family if I didn't wake up in the morning that I loved them very much, etc. Ugh, I was a mess.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

I have to say that I'm a little distressed.

NOT because I gained 3.5 lbs in one day. I expected that and braced myself for it.

But my blood sugar went from an average of 150 (I'm diabetic) to an all time high of 318 last night. I was beside myself and SO upset. It was a horrible way to wrap up my birthday.

I didn't even have any birthday cake and the only sweets I had yesterday were cheesecake in the afternoon and ONE mango margarita at dinner. Even before starting Induction when I was regularly eating sweets, my blood sugar has never went above 208 so this REALLY concerns me. I know that if I call my doctor and tell him, he will tell me to stop the diet immediately (even if it's not related).

I've said it before in various threads here that a low carb WOE HAS to become a WOL for me in order to manage my diabetes, and this was hit home yet AGAIN for me last night. I don't think I went "hog wild" in carbs either as my main focus was fat. But my body obviously freaked out over what carbs (I had some mac 'n cheese, cheesecake, and tortilla chips with my guacamole) I DID consume, and my mind followed suit as soon as I saw that number.

I hope today is better. I woke up with my blood sugar at 174, still high but at least not freak out high.

There is/was someone else who did this as a diabetic. I have PMed her back and forth and she helped me tremendously with my DD who is a new diabetic. Let me see if I can have her come in and help you out. Do you take insulin--injected that is? My DD has type 1 and has been on the injected insulin to cover her blood sugar as well as her food. Makes it easy to lower her blood sugar

[LilacBruze]

No, the whole reason I began my diet in march was my doc told me if I did not do something soon, I would have to go on insulin. I am type II but it's relatively new, diagnosed in 2007 but in 2006 (and prior) my glucose was normal. But I have battled with it for 4 years now, and Onglyza is the 3rd medication in conjunction with Metformin that my doc is trying, previous attempts with Amaryl and Byetta were unsuccessful.

What my doc REALLY wants me to take for it is Avandia, but considering all the attention it is getting lately due to congestive heart failure... um... no thanks. I flat out refused to try it. Unfortunately, it is one of few diabetes meds that targets my specific diabetic problem of insulin resistance. My body MAKES enough insulin but doesn't USE it properly.

[dawnyama]

OK. Good to have that info. I will see what she thinks.

[MagieDen]

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

I take Metformin and Onglyza and no I did not stop taking it. What I did not take yesterday was my additional supplements of banaba leaf, bitter melon, and mulberry/cinnamon/gymnestra complex because I was going to cut out the additional supplements I take so as to not interfere with the hHcg, you should see the fistful of pills I usually choke down in the morning!

I am trying to tell myself that it was just my body reacting to the flood of carb/sugar intake after 9 weeks of 20 carbs a day and no sugar. I am calmer this morning as it went down but you should have heard/seen me last night, I was telling my family if I didn't wake up in the morning that I loved them very much, etc. Ugh, I was a mess.

Scarey feeling I know, glad to hear it is back down and I am sure it will get better and that does make sense that you would get a reading like that. The truth of the matter is that I didn't want to see my reading after my load days, mind you I didn't go crazy on the sugar because of being Diabetic. I made sure to eat plenty of fat and had a few carby things. I took my reading a day or 2 later and kept on with my med's. Glad you're feeling better about it but please montior very closely.

BTW- I am insul resistant as well and I have seen on other hHCG threads of others having success with this diet, praying it is the same for the both of us

[catjrow3]

Lilac, sounds a bit scary... but the good thing is ... it will probably dramatically improve on the VLCD part... so hold tight and if you are not done loading, take it easy on the second day and chin up, it will improve, I am sure of it!! And the weight loss will be another bonus!! Good luck!

[LilacBruze]

I put a call in to my doctor just to be safe. The truth is - I've been on very low carb and went off my diet to celebrate for my birthday, no more, no less. I am not going to mention HCG because it's irrelevant in my eyes. :blush:

[CherylB]

Lilac, I'm an RN and I just want to reassure you. It's only natural that your sugar jumped up after a day of gorging. Your medications are prescribed to be able to handle the amount of calories in your typical daily diet. Since your body is impaired (metabolically speaking) it has no choice but to go way up when the calories go way up and the meds stay the same.

By the same token, if your meds are the same when you get to the VLCD days, your sugar may go low and your meds may have to be adjusted to compensate for the lack of calorie intake.

Please don't check your sugar tonight, if you do another load day. If you don't load properly you will regret it with hunger that will last for days on end in the VLCD round. Eat and forget about your sugar for tonight. Check it in the morning and go from there. But watch for your sugar to go on the low side from now on and make sure to let your Dr know that it's low because of the diet you are on. He/she will adjust your meds to match your diet plan.

You really can't do this without the Dr knowing what you are doing, because he is the one providing you with the right dose of meds. He may or may not approve of your plan, but he will want you to be safe and will adjust your meds accordingly.

Don't freak out! One or two days of a very high blood sugar reading (that is directly related to eating a bunch of food) will not hurt you one little bit. I promise!

[HexaTheAmazon]

Hi Lilac,

How are you? My name is Hexa and Dawn told me a little about you. I will need to take time and read your post but I can tell you just from reading the first few lines the reason why your blood glucose spiked so high was the cheesecake and mango margarita. Anything with the word mango will make the blood sugar sit up on its hind legs and shoot for the stars.

I use an insulin pump and it is a life saver but, even with the insulin pump I don't eat cheesecake.

You are a brave one.

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

I have to say that I'm a little distressed.

NOT because I gained 3.5 lbs in one day. I expected that and braced myself for it.

But my blood sugar went from an average of 150 (I'm diabetic) to an all time high of 318 last night. I was beside myself and SO upset. It was a horrible way to wrap up my birthday.

I didn't even have any birthday cake and the only sweets I had yesterday were cheesecake in the afternoon and ONE mango margarita at dinner. Even before starting Induction when I was regularly eating sweets, my blood sugar has never went above 208 so this REALLY concerns me. I know that if I call my doctor and tell him, he will tell me to stop the diet immediately (even if it's not related).

I've said it before in various threads here that a low carb WOE HAS to become a WOL for me in order to manage my diabetes, and this was hit home yet AGAIN for me last night. I don't think I went "hog wild" in carbs either as my main focus was fat. But my body obviously freaked out over what carbs (I had some mac 'n cheese, cheesecake, and tortilla chips with my guacamole) I DID consume, and my mind followed suit as soon as I saw that number.

I hope today is better. I woke up with my blood sugar at 174, still high but at least not freak out high.

[HexaTheAmazon]

The issue is that you are loading with carbs. I use insulin and I never load with carbs. There are other things you can use to load like cheese, greek yogurt, meats, nuts, half and half, etc. All of these things are healthy and have some fat but are low in carbs. Eat salmon, eggs, eggsalad... etc. Be creative but forget the carbs. Yes, please take care to test your BG before bedtime. My insulin requirements were literally cut in half. Sometimes I took less than 19 units a day. My A1C has dropped significantly. Diabetics do not have normal metabolisms so, we cannot load like the others. If you are going to have fruit eat gala apples. Diabetics have to be extra creative and you will reap great benefits.

Stop the carb loading. It is not beneficial for you,

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

I put a call in to my doctor just to be safe. The

truth is - I've been on very low carb and went off my diet to celebrate for my birthday, no more, no less. I am not going to mention HCG because it's irrelevant in my eyes. :blush:

[HexaTheAmazon]

By the way, I have lost 28 pounds on this diet. In June I will do another round to lose 20 pounds.

[LilacBruze]

Thank you so much for your advice!

I don't really feel that I loaded on high carbs per se, I really made the effort to concentrate on fats (bacon, eggs, cheese, no sugar added peanut butter) while the small piece of crustless cheesecake and small mango margarita were splurges because it was my birthday. Plus these were things that I ate/drank prior to Atkins Induction that, while they DID raise my blood sugar a bit, it NEVER went above 208.

I was super busy at work today so I did not read the post about not checking my blood sugar today until - oops - I already had. It was 165 after dinner so I am MUCH calmer and saner today than I was yesterday. Confession - I ate another piece of cheesecake today but there was NO mango margarita involved. :blush:

My doctor said it was my body freaking out on the increased carb intake since I had been doing 20 carbs a day for the past 9 weeks. Even if I had only had 100 grams (I probably had at least double that) it would have spiked my blood sugar regardless. He was not worried as long as it did not continue to do so, and I made sure to tell him yesterday and today were aberrations and would not happen again.

Today's fasting and after meal readings - while still a bit higher than I am used to since doing Induction - were okay.

Thanks again for the advice and concern. I am so glad I found this forum for SO many reasons!

On a side note, it was harder for me to eat today and I felt a bit green when doing so. I ate mostly low carb fat (bacon, eggs, cheese, no sugar added peanut butter again, and macadamia nuts). I did have my deep dish pizza but found I could only eat one piece. I definitely did not eat as much today as I did yesterday. I couldn't.

[Ravenj9]

If it's any consolation, my doctor just recently took me off of metformin. I started out a few years ago on 1000 mg twice a day. So hang in there. Things will definitely get better.

[LilacBruze]

Originally Posted by Ravenj9

If it's any consolation, my doctor just recently took me off of metformin. I started out a few years ago on 1000 mg twice a day. So hang in there. Things will definitely get better.

Raven, that is music to my ears! I started dieting because he said I would have to go on insulin if my A1C didn't improve significantly. I am on my third combo with Metformin because it has not really improved much in the 4 years since being diagnosed. I don't want insulin. I already have to take daily injections for my MS and with testing my blood on top of that I would be sticking myself with needles 5+ times a day - DEPRESSING.

Congrats to you on multiple levels!

[HexaTheAmazon]

Once your body adjusts to low carb foods it does become really sensitive to carbs. That's the good thing. I will forever take insulin however, the dosage is better than what I started with 20+ years ago. When I was first diagnosed I took about 75 units a day. Now, I take less than 28 units a day and that's on a bad day. When on HCG I take less than 20 units a day. Please be very careful to take your blood glucose as your insulin requirements will drop as the fat from your body is targeted and the medication is release when the fat is depleted. Insulin stores itself in the fat and when the fat cell is depleted, whatever insulin is left in it is released in the blood stream. Give it a couple of days and you will see for yourself. Good luck

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

Thank you so much for your advice!

I don't really feel that I loaded on high carbs per se, I really made the effort to concentrate on fats (bacon, eggs, cheese, no sugar added peanut butter) while the small piece of crustless cheesecake and small mango margarita were splurges because it was my birthday. Plus these were things that I ate/drank prior to Atkins Induction that, while they DID raise my blood sugar a bit, it NEVER went above 208.

I was super busy at work today so I did not read the post about not checking my blood sugar today until - oops - I already had. It was 165 after dinner so I am MUCH calmer and saner today than I was yesterday. Confession - I ate another piece of cheesecake today but there was NO mango margarita involved. :blush:

My doctor said it was my body freaking out on the increased carb intake since I had been doing 20 carbs a day for the past 9 weeks. Even if I had only had 100 grams (I probably had at least double that) it would have spiked my blood sugar regardless. He was not worried as long as it did not continue to do so, and I made sure to tell him yesterday and today were aberrations and would not happen again.

Today's fasting and after meal readings - while still a bit higher than I am used to since doing Induction - were okay.

Thanks again for the advice and concern. I am so glad I found this forum for SO many reasons!

On a side note, it was harder for me to eat today and I felt a bit green when doing so. I ate mostly low carb fat (bacon, eggs, cheese, no sugar added peanut butter again, and macadamia nuts). I did have my deep dish pizza but found I could only eat one piece. I definitely did not eat as much today as I did yesterday. I couldn't.

[LilacBruze]

Fasting blood sugar was 147 this morning, a much more "normal" reading for me.

Weight gain for 2 loading days has been 3.6 lbs. And seeing how much water I'm retaining in my ankles, I'm good with knowing a big portion of it is water weight.

Had my cup of plain tea this morning. I can't drink coffee without cream and sweetener so I will be doing my round without coffee. Heaven help all those around me!

My 3 oz of chicken breast, cucumber, apple, and melba toast is all set and waiting for me for lunch.

I will say this again, this is the FIRST diet I'm actually looking forward to doing!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

Fasting blood sugar was 147 this morning, a much more "normal" reading for me.

Weight gain for 2 loading days has been 3.6 lbs. And seeing how much water I'm retaining in my ankles, I'm good with knowing a big portion of it is water weight.

Had my cup of plain tea this morning. I can't drink coffee without cream and sweetener so I will be doing my round without coffee. Heaven help all those around me!

My 3 oz of chicken breast, cucumber, apple, and melba toast is all set and waiting for me for lunch.

I will say this again, this is the FIRST diet I'm actually looking forward to doing!

Girl I so hear you on the coffee thing. I too did a round without (my first) and like you said "heaven help those around me" But I did really really well. You will too!!! Is your blood sugar that high in the AM? Amy's has been in the 80s upon wakening. But she is on insulin for the rest of her life and won't be getting away from it. I guess that is the difference--the insulin we give her at night is still working 12 hours later. She will be sticking herself many times a day and won't ever get away from that. Unlike Hexa, her insulin needs change from day to day with what she eats. It isn't so bad, after that first frustrating month where we didn't know what the he** we were doing. I wish you much luck this round. Like I said you will get amazing results....and they are so quick too

[LilacBruze]

Grrrr yes it is that high in the AM, a serious thorn in my side because I of course want those numbers lower. Before I started Induction, my fasting blood sugar was around 190 so believe me, it IS an improvement. I am insulin resistant so it is a battle to lower my numbers.

I use a daily tracker that also has an averaging feature, this is a snapshot of the past 6 weeks:

By week:
Fasting: 145, - over the last week - from 30 Apr, 2011 to 7 May, 2011
Fasting: 157, - the previous week - from 23 Apr, 2011 to 30 Apr, 2011
Fasting: 154, - 3 weeks ago - from 16 Apr, 2011 to 23 Apr, 2011
Fasting: 161, - 4 weeks ago - from 9 Apr, 2011 to 16 Apr, 2011
Fasting: 165, - 5 weeks ago - from 2 Apr, 2011 to 9 Apr, 2011
Fasting: 179, - 6 weeks ago- from 26 Mar, 2011 to 2 Apr, 2011

As you can see, it IS trending in the right direction! Just a slow and laborious process.

[dawnyama]

I see! Great improvement. We were thrilled to see that Amy's A1C had dropped 4 points in the 1 month since she was diagnosed. I am thinking though that since Amy is only 10 that is the reason!!! But the insulin helps. I am glad you are doing the hcg. It will help change your body and how it functions, not just with the weight loss but on a hormonal level too!! Cannot beat that!!

[LilacBruze]

The funny thing is... my blood sugar is lower in the evening than when I wake up! I take Metformin 1000mg twice a day and Onglyza 5mg once a day. I have tried switching the Onlgyza dose to other times of the day too and nothing matters. Fasting numbers are ALWAYS higher.

Does anyone know why that is?

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

The funny thing is... my blood sugar is lower in the evening than when I wake up! I take Metformin 1000mg twice a day and Onglyza 5mg once a day. I have tried switching the Onlgyza dose to other times of the day too and nothing matters. Fasting numbers are ALWAYS higher.

Does anyone know why that is?

You are the opposite of Amy!!! She is higher in the evening because by then her 24 hour acting insulin is out of her system. It boggles the mind to see the numbers get higher when you eat nothing. Just proves that it is hormones and not what you eat that most influences the blood sugar numbers. At least that is my conclusion after dealing with type 1 for only a month!! I know absolutely nothing about diabetes too, just the little bit I have seen with my DD. So don't go by what I state, not at all

[HexaTheAmazon]

Good Morning,

Technically, when you are sleeping you BG should be going down. At 3am the body gives an additional boost of insulin so, you should be lower in the morning. I guess it depends on how late you eat and what you eat before bedtime. Good to see your BG is dropping. It will continue to do so as the diet progresses. In addition, if you are supper hungry you can always use one of your fruits or melba toast as a snack at 1000 and that will hold you over until lunch. Remember to make you food interesting. I used to have strawberries with splenda sprinkled on top for my fruit and it was realllllyyyyyy good.

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

The funny thing is... my blood sugar is lower in the evening than when I wake up! I take Metformin 1000mg twice a day and Onglyza 5mg once a day. I have tried switching the Onlgyza dose to other times of the day too and nothing matters. Fasting numbers are ALWAYS higher.

Does anyone know why that is?

[HexaTheAmazon]

Hi Dawn,

Good to see you. The reason why your daughter's BG goes up as the 24 hour insulin wears out is because her body does not produce any insulin. For me, the pump gives me little continuous doses through out the day so, it does vary. With the pump if you don't eat you must lower your basal rate however, if you do eat you give yourself some insulin. I was watching television the other day and saw a 7 year old on the pump!!! Go figure. He was doing well with it.

Originally Posted by dawnyama

You are the opposite of Amy!!! She is higher in the evening because by then her 24 hour acting insulin is out of her system. It boggles the mind to see the numbers get higher when you eat nothing. Just proves that it is hormones and not what you eat that most influences the blood sugar numbers. At least that is my conclusion after dealing with type 1 for only a month!! I know absolutely nothing about diabetes too, just the little bit I have seen with my DD. So don't go by what I state, not at all

[LilacBruze]

Hexa,

I don't eat past 7pm and my dinners are usually no more than 7-10 net carbs. It's something that perplexes my doctor too, he went so far once as to ask me if perhaps I was sleepwalking and eating in my sleep! The answer to that is no.

[Missy's Journey]

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

Had my cup of plain tea this morning. I can't drink coffee without cream and sweetener so I will be doing my round without coffee. Heaven help all those around me!

It scares me how much this is ME! how could i possibly put watery milk in coffee? blech. and i don't like tea either...ive tried...i really have tried. so its just diet pepsi for my breakfast.

[HexaTheAmazon]

Now, that's a good one.

Originally Posted by LilacBruze

Hexa,

I don't eat past 7pm and my dinners are usually no more than 7-10 net carbs. It's something that perplexes my doctor too, he went so far once as to ask me if perhaps I was sleepwalking and eating in my sleep! The answer to that is no.

[CherylB]

Originally Posted by Missy's Journey

It scares me how much this is ME! how could i possibly put watery milk in coffee? blech. and i don't like tea either...ive tried...i really have tried. so its just diet pepsi for my breakfast.

After eating LC for almost 2 years and indulging in light whipping cream and DaVinci syrup in my coffee, I never thought I would adjust to coffee without cream. But I did! I drink it black now with three drops of liquid Splenda (aka Ez Sweetz) and it's very satifying. If you love coffee, you will adjust if you keep trying it. Your taste buds will come around!