Here I go again!! Time for another Round-p1D1

[1BellaDonna]

Well I'm cutting P4 a little short so I can start another round. I think it may be good timing since today I am 1.4 lbs above my LDW and up until this past week had been maintaining pretty well, especially in P3!

I have 31.6 lbs to go and have some big events coming where I want to be at goal and not in P2 ( i did P2 At a wedding and it sucked!!)...two rounds?

Anyway, it's time to do this...and to be accountable, so I will post stats and details here. Btw, I'm avoiding Melba toasts this round, since they are a trigger. :-(

I can do this! (i hope.)

[Stevie Renee]

Wishing you well. I start a new round Weds.

See you in the new threads of P2!

I dont do melba either.

[txchic]

Good Luck!! I hope I am as successful as you have been

[1BellaDonna]

well, i'm not too thrilled with the numbers i'm seeing right now but will PRAY it's a water weight issue. I will not freak out. I will not freak out. I will not.... :-(

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1- 178.8

[1BellaDonna]

Thanks you guys! Trying to stay strong but my weights are kooky as heck (see below)! I am now planning to do 40 days. Sigh. Anyway, here's hoping that that today's weight is a good indicator for things to come and that these weights that are all over the place will stop!

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1 (4/25/11)- 178.8
P2D2- 179.0 ---WTH?? I was adhering to protocol strictly yesterday!
P2D3-175.4 --- I guess the guzzling of water helped yesterday?

[BigBravesGirl]

Good luck! You've done well so far. You can do this.

[1BellaDonna]

Thanks, Lisa! From your stats, you've been kicking @$$ on this protocol! Keep up with your great work!! Btw, I love your signature!

[1BellaDonna]

I know that nobody is checking this but I'm trying to make myself accountable. :-)

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1 (4/25/11)- 178.8
P2D2- 179.0 ---WTH?? I was adhering to protocol strictly yesterday!
P2D3-175.4 --- I guess the guzzling of water helped yesterday?
P2D4 -173.6 ---Wheatthin binge/purge yesterday. Like this number but hope it's not temp.

[tinatina]

Originally Posted by 1BellaDonna

I know that nobody is checking this but I'm trying to make myself accountable. :-)

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1 (4/25/11)- 178.8
P2D2- 179.0 ---WTH?? I was adhering to protocol strictly yesterday!
P2D3-175.4 --- I guess the guzzling of water helped yesterday?
P2D4 -173.6 ---Wheatthin binge/purge yesterday. Like this number but hope it's not temp.

today was day 4 for me also, first round tho!

[halebop]

Originally Posted by 1BellaDonna

I know that nobody is checking this but I'm trying to make myself accountable. :-)

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1 (4/25/11)- 178.8
P2D2- 179.0 ---WTH?? I was adhering to protocol strictly yesterday!
P2D3-175.4 --- I guess the guzzling of water helped yesterday?
P2D4 -173.6 ---Wheatthin binge/purge yesterday. Like this number but hope it's not temp.

I've been following. Hang in there!

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by 1BellaDonna

I know that nobody is checking this but I'm trying to make myself accountable. :-)

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1 (4/25/11)- 178.8
P2D2- 179.0 ---WTH?? I was adhering to protocol strictly yesterday!
P2D3-175.4 --- I guess the guzzling of water helped yesterday?
P2D4 -173.6 ---Wheatthin binge/purge yesterday. Like this number but hope it's not temp.

I am here to follow and encourage too! You can do it!! We will all do it together. Keep it up!!

[1BellaDonna]

Awww! Thank you guys for saying hi and sharing! Feel free to add yours, if it will help you stay on track better. I wasn't going to post things like my binge/purge issue (I have a history of bulimia) but I'm trying to keep it honest. I'm not sure why I've been craving carbs and feeling starved around 5pm when I have been taking my 2nd dose around 2:30pm. I will continue to work on this and am *trying* not to beat myself up too much on it.

Good luck to you all! Thanks for your support!!

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1 (4/25/11)- 178.8
P2D2- 179.0 ---WTH?? I was adhering to protocol strictly yesterday!
P2D3-175.4 --- I guess the guzzling of water helped yesterday?
P2D4 -173.6 ---Wheatthin binge/purge yesterday. :-( Like this number but hope it's not temp.

P2D5-172.0 ---I ate a whole papa john's breadstick and then purged last night. :-(

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by 1BellaDonna

Awww! Thank you guys for saying hi and sharing! Feel free to add yours, if it will help you stay on track better. I wasn't going to post things like my binge/purge issue (I have a history of bulimia) but I'm trying to keep it honest. I'm not sure why I've been craving carbs and feeling starved around 5pm when I have been taking my 2nd dose around 2:30pm. I will continue to work on this and am *trying* not to beat myself up too much on it.

Good luck to you all! Thanks for your support!!

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1 (4/25/11)- 178.8
P2D2- 179.0 ---WTH?? I was adhering to protocol strictly yesterday!
P2D3-175.4 --- I guess the guzzling of water helped yesterday?
P2D4 -173.6 ---Wheatthin binge/purge yesterday. :-( Like this number but hope it's not temp.

P2D5-172.0 ---I ate a whole papa john's breadstick and then purged last night. :-(

Oh Donna, I hope you can overcome the purge part especially. I binge, but never purge...ugh, cannot stand to be sick! I watched a girl who lived with my daughter who would cook all day long,(she weighed 90 lbs) and eat it all just so she could purge... she wrote in her "journal" that she enjoyed the feeling, and I cant wrap my head around that. Is that how most "bulemics" feel? Being I hate to get sick, I just binge! LOL If you ever need to talk more about it, I am here to listen! Good luck and nice number today though..

[Empress]

I started R1P1 on 4/29/11. Has anyone with Thyroid disease had success with with hcg injections?

[1BellaDonna]

Thanks, Cathy! Unfortunately, I've been dealing with Bulimia for well over a decade. Then again, I don't think that if you have an eating disorder that you're ever fully over it. I've gone through periods where I didn't do it (eg. pregnancies) and times (horrible periods in my life) where I would do it as many as 10 times/day, for any food that went into my mouth. Purging is awful and scary bc it ruins your tooth enamel and could cause death if the esophagus ruptures. It's not a "fun" feeling by any means. However, I think your daughter's friend means that she enjoys the release it causes. If you think of it as a physical way of stuffing down emotions then think of how great it feels to just SCREAM your head off at someone who has done you wrong over and over...It's kind of like that kind of whole body release. It's hard to explain. Needless to say, bulimics are generally people who hold things in and don't express their feelings (often people pleasers, etc.). Oh the psychology of it all! ;-)

Anyhoooooooo, I *DO* appreciate your concern and offer to talk. Since having kids, I don't purge much but find myself doing it when I feel "guilty" for eating too much/wrong stuff (E.g., beyond my 500 calories). Hcg has been interesting for me. I really enjoy the food structure and want to use the time to lose the weight quickly and to learn about how my body responds to food. However ,at the same time, it also encourages my all or nothing type of personality/mentality and the occasional bouts of hunger cause me to deal with binge/purge behaviour again. It's a win-lose situation but I am hoping that in the end I'll lose all the weight, understand my body, and be more focused on properly and quickly correcting any fluctuations in weight, so that I don't feel the desire to purge because of my weight (psychological/stress/etc. is a whoooooooole other issue!). :-)

How are YOU doing on the program? Below are my latest stats...Happy to see the 160's, even if just barely...for now:

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1 (4/25/11)- 178.8
P2D2- 179.0 ---WTH?? I was adhering to protocol strictly yesterday!
P2D3-175.4 --- I guess the guzzling of water helped yesterday?
P2D4 -173.6 ---Wheatthin binge/purge yesterday. :-( Like this number but hope it's not temp.

P2D5-172.0 ---I ate a whole papa john's breadstick and then purged last night. :-(
P2D6-171.0
P2D7-170.2 - despite not being able to resist occasional bites of my kids' healthy but carby snacks, sides last night/yesterday ---Why am I so hungry this round?????
P2D8-169.2- Hello 160's!!!!! Let's keep going!

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by Empress

I started R1P1 on 4/29/11. Has anyone with Thyroid disease had success with with hcg injections?

Hi Empress. I think this is a thread that the OP started as kind of a journal. You might want to check out the weekly threads for P2 (there really isn't a "P1") as well as the Simeons Protocol and Alternate Plan threads. There is also a thread for people doing injections called Injector's Place or something like that. I WILL say that I am hypothyroid and hypoadrenal and on meds for both and have lost almost 50 pounds in the last 4 months (2 rounds) on HCG (although I am using homeopathic and not injections). Welcome and good luck!

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by 1BellaDonna

Thanks, Cathy! Unfortunately, I've been dealing with Bulimia for well over a decade. Then again, I don't think that if you have an eating disorder that you're ever fully over it. I've gone through periods where I didn't do it (eg. pregnancies) and times (horrible periods in my life) where I would do it as many as 10 times/day, for any food that went into my mouth. Purging is awful and scary bc it ruins your tooth enamel and could cause death if the esophagus ruptures. It's not a "fun" feeling by any means. However, I think your daughter's friend means that she enjoys the release it causes. If you think of it as a physical way of stuffing down emotions then think of how great it feels to just SCREAM your head off at someone who has done you wrong over and over...It's kind of like that kind of whole body release. It's hard to explain. Needless to say, bulimics are generally people who hold things in and don't express their feelings (often people pleasers, etc.). Oh the psychology of it all! ;-)

Anyhoooooooo, I *DO* appreciate your concern and offer to talk. Since having kids, I don't purge much but find myself doing it when I feel "guilty" for eating too much/wrong stuff (E.g., beyond my 500 calories). Hcg has been interesting for me. I really enjoy the food structure and want to use the time to lose the weight quickly and to learn about how my body responds to food. However ,at the same time, it also encourages my all or nothing type of personality/mentality and the occasional bouts of hunger cause me to deal with binge/purge behaviour again. It's a win-lose situation but I am hoping that in the end I'll lose all the weight, understand my body, and be more focused on properly and quickly correcting any fluctuations in weight, so that I don't feel the desire to purge because of my weight (psychological/stress/etc. is a whoooooooole other issue!). :-)

How are YOU doing on the program? Below are my latest stats...Happy to see the 160's, even if just barely...for now:

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1 (4/25/11)- 178.8
P2D2- 179.0 ---WTH?? I was adhering to protocol strictly yesterday!
P2D3-175.4 --- I guess the guzzling of water helped yesterday?
P2D4 -173.6 ---Wheatthin binge/purge yesterday. :-( Like this number but hope it's not temp.

P2D5-172.0 ---I ate a whole papa john's breadstick and then purged last night. :-(
P2D6-171.0
P2D7-170.2 - despite not being able to resist occasional bites of my kids' healthy but carby snacks, sides last night/yesterday ---Why am I so hungry this round?????
P2D8-169.2- Hello 160's!!!!! Let's keep going!

Wow Donna, yes, I dont claim to even understand her "thinking" on the purging, but boy, I sure felt sorry for the girl, so young, so sickly looking!

Now I can completely relate to the hunger causing the binging you speak of though, as I also have the all or nothing mentality and do the same thing... once I have a gain, and I am hungry, boy, I want to go all out and eat!! I hate it when I "self-sabatoge" myself, and try very hard not to do it. I am about to say "HELLO" to the 140s!!! They are teasing me terribly though! 0.2, 0.4, 0.6.... I am now 150.2, so tomorrow just to tease more, will probably be 150.0 (UGH!!) but its movement right? I have a tendency to "taste/sample" as well, and I find if I do not do it too much, its not the end all. I am a slower loser though, so this round, I have dropped 3.2 *net* in the first week and on day 4 of the second week and 1.4 so far... but its slow progress...

If you are hungry, are you on HHCG or RX hcg? maybe your dose is not right this round and thats why hunger. This is actually my R2 redo.. as the last time I started, I was soo hungry i wanted to eat my arm off and was not getting anywhere but up, so I went to p3 for a few weeks and came back again, and am much better this time.

[1BellaDonna]

Not feeling so happy right now...I have been good with water intake and I stopped the cheating and binging/purging and am back up in the 170's, after having seen a glimpse of the 160's. :-( I'm not sure what the problem is. I will keep going though.

PS- I have a feeling that I will never eat another cucumber or strawberry after all of this!

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1-7: 178.8, 179.0, 175.4, 173.6, 172.0, 171.0, 170.2
VLCD8-14: 169.2, 170.2, 170.0 <--- 5/4/11- not liking that I am not losing :-(

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by 1BellaDonna

Not feeling so happy right now...I have been good with water intake and I stopped the cheating and binging/purging and am back up in the 170's, after having seen a glimpse of the 160's. :-( I'm not sure what the problem is. I will keep going though.

PS- I have a feeling that I will never eat another cucumber or strawberry after all of this!

LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1-7: 178.8, 179.0, 175.4, 173.6, 172.0, 171.0, 170.2
VLCD8-14: 169.2, 170.2, 170.0 <--- 5/4/11- not liking that I am not losing :-(

You can do it Donna, just trust the protocol! Its hard, but once you hit the groove, you will be all set!!! Once you start losing again, you will be all good!!

[1BellaDonna]

aww, thanks, cathy! I'm trying to be positive about it. I'm glad that 1. I didn't binge or binge/purge again 2. that I'm not increasing a ton and 3. My hunger is not so crazy like it had been.

How are you doing today with your journey?

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by 1BellaDonna

aww, thanks, cathy! I'm trying to be positive about it. I'm glad that 1. I didn't binge or binge/purge again 2. that I'm not increasing a ton and 3. My hunger is not so crazy like it had been.

How are you doing today with your journey?

Well, I finally hit a new decade today! My losses are usually slow, but lost a whole pound today and down to 149.2, finally after a year into the 140s!!! Feel pretty good today thanks!!

Great idea to stay positive, it will only help the process of healing and getting over the "humps"

[1BellaDonna]

Congratulations on entering your new decade!!!

I like your attitude and realism about goals and expectations. I am working on adjusting my attitude. Today I was down to 169.6, so I'm happy to not be back in the 170's, after having seen a quick glimpse of the 160's the other day. We shall see if it continues to decrease. I'm being a "good girl" though. I swear! lol

I just realized that it should be TOM very soon. Perhaps I'll have a nice little drop at the end...or not. I'm thinking I'm about to start my typical period of .2and .4 losses. I'm only on day 11 of VLCD. I didn't want to start the slow down so soon, as I wanted to make this a 40 day round and the next (last?) the 25 day round (due to family trips, special occasions, etc.). Wish me luck.
Again, congratulations on your success, Cathy!

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by 1BellaDonna

Congratulations on entering your new decade!!!

I like your attitude and realism about goals and expectations. I am working on adjusting my attitude. Today I was down to 169.6, so I'm happy to not be back in the 170's, after having seen a quick glimpse of the 160's the other day. We shall see if it continues to decrease. I'm being a "good girl" though. I swear! lol

I just realized that it should be TOM very soon. Perhaps I'll have a nice little drop at the end...or not. I'm thinking I'm about to start my typical period of .2and .4 losses. I'm only on day 11 of VLCD. I didn't want to start the slow down so soon, as I wanted to make this a 40 day round and the next (last?) the 25 day round (due to family trips, special occasions, etc.). Wish me luck.
Again, congratulations on your success, Cathy!

Donna, thats the best we can do right, keep trying to improve!! Yay for the 160s!!! You can keep it going, I know you can. I find that exercising helps me to keep moving and feeling better. If you are not normally one who exercises, you can try taking a walk... get your metabolism moving a bit to help with the slow down and also midol is great for not gaining as much weight with TOM. (well for me anyway)... I am wishing you lots of luck!! You can do it!!

[1BellaDonna]

I'm down .8 lbs today...168.8!! Woot woot!! How are you doing today, Cathy?
By the way, I can't believe that I did not pay attention to your stats before yesterday. OMG!!!!! What an amazing job you have done. Good for you!! Congratulations! Congratulations! Congratulations!!!

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by 1BellaDonna

I'm down .8 lbs today...168.8!! Woot woot!! How are you doing today, Cathy?
By the way, I can't believe that I did not pay attention to your stats before yesterday. OMG!!!!! What an amazing job you have done. Good for you!! Congratulations! Congratulations! Congratulations!!!

Nice job Donna, I am down 0.8 as well!! So 147.0

We are working it girl!

Yes, mine was not all on HCG though, I did Nutrisystems and lost down to about 165 and then started HCG!

[1BellaDonna]

Go Cathy!!!!! 147??!!!??!!
Today I was 166.6, so I'm thrilled! So nice not to teeter on the brink of the 170's and 160's again...and it's TOM time too! Who'da thunk it?

I must say that I'm absolutely obsessed with watching the Food Network and looking at recipes right now though. Uggh!



LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1-7: 178.8, 179.0, 175.4, 173.6, 172.0, 171.0, 170.2
VLCD8-14: 169.2, 170.2, 170.0,169.6, 168.8, 168.4, 167.0
VLCD15-21: 166.6,

[tinatina]

Originally Posted by 1BellaDonna

Go Cathy!!!!! 147??!!!??!!
Today I was 166.6, so I'm thrilled! So nice not to teeter on the brink of the 170's and 160's again...and it's TOM time too! Who'da thunk it?

I must say that I'm absolutely obsessed with watching the Food Network and looking at recipes right now though. Uggh!



LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1-7: 178.8, 179.0, 175.4, 173.6, 172.0, 171.0, 170.2
VLCD8-14: 169.2, 170.2, 170.0,169.6, 168.8, 168.4, 167.0
VLCD15-21: 166.6,

great job on the 166!!!!

[catjrow3]

Originally Posted by 1BellaDonna

Go Cathy!!!!! 147??!!!??!!
Today I was 166.6, so I'm thrilled! So nice not to teeter on the brink of the 170's and 160's again...and it's TOM time too! Who'da thunk it?

I must say that I'm absolutely obsessed with watching the Food Network and looking at recipes right now though. Uggh!



LDW from previous round -173.2
Day 1 Load-176.6
Day 2 Load - 174.8
VLCD1-7: 178.8, 179.0, 175.4, 173.6, 172.0, 171.0, 170.2
VLCD8-14: 169.2, 170.2, 170.0,169.6, 168.8, 168.4, 167.0
VLCD15-21: 166.6,

Nice job on the 166... I actually got to 146, but screwed up yesterday at family BBQ and then did a mini binge! UP three this morning! UGH!! Darn it, I was on a good roll too...well...lets hope I get rid of it quick and dont do it again!

[1BellaDonna]

I'm sure you'll drop it quickly, Cathy. Make sure you drink plenty of water just in case you had extra sodium that your body isn't used to right now.

I'm a bit scared of social events right now. With my current program, I will be finishing P2 on my last day of work. Of course, before this happens, I have an end of the year happy hour, a surprise graduation party, and a visit with an out of town guest. This past friday was the retirement party for my old assistant and it was at a mexican restaurant. I wanted to eat a chip soooooooo badly but just sat there with my BORING water. :-( Gotta stay strong though. The biggest challenge will be the graduation party, because we will be going out of town for the day and staying at a hotel. I swear this couple has bad timing bc I was in P2 at their wedding last year and I sat there with a plate of cucumbers for my meal as everyone else ate yummy dinner and cake and had drinks. Sigh. I have to make it!!! I deserve it for all the %(%#~@# cucumbers I've eaten, as I watch my family eat PASTA!! lol

[catjrow3]

Yup....thats hard to take. If I had stayed home last night and not gone for the BBQ, I would be sitting pretty this morning and probably down another 0.6 or so... but noooo..... and I could not behave after either! UGH! Well, here are to better tomorrows!!!