Your thoughts on Re-feed days? - Page 7

pacetbostic · 04-09-2011, 07:22 AM

Because I'm a glutton for punishment, I got on the scale this morning. After 2 slices of extra cheese deep dish pizza, 3 hot wings and 2 real cokes I was down .4

cookie34 · 04-09-2011, 07:23 AM

Loosin, Your stats are close to me.. how long have you been on P2?

cookie34 · 04-09-2011, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pacetbostic

Because I'm a glutton for punishment, I got on the scale this morning. After 2 slices of extra cheese deep dish pizza, 3 hot wings and 2 real cokes I was down .4

lucky....

kaylem · 04-09-2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CherylB

Hi, Pumpkin. (Love your new Avi, BTW.) From looking at your graph, my personal opinion is the refeeds didn't make much of a difference in your case. I don't see anything dramatic there. It looks like the same pattern all the way through, pretty much. Don't you agree?

For me to believe that a refeed made enough of a difference for me to do it more than once, I'm going to have to see a nice dip in my graph a few days (and hopefully for a few consecutive days) after I've returned to the VLCD plan. In other words, an acceleration rather than just a continuation.

I agree with you, Cheryl. Just losing what I gained during the re-feed will NOT make it worth it. That will only mean that I have prolonged the experience instead of accelerating it.

So, in line with that, I am down to 148 this morning, which is where I was when I began the re-feed. So, tomorrow will really reveal to me if this sped things up at all, because as of right now, my net losses for this past week are ZERO. (But I do admit that eating with few restrictions on Wednesday was really nice!)

I'm going to have a few tbsp of ACV today w/ water and stevia to see if that helps move things along a bit, too.

I will let you know tomorrow how it goes!

CherylB · 04-09-2011, 08:34 AM

Great news, ladies! You're doing wonderfully. Pace, what a bonus that was, to lose after a little food fest! It may be perplexing, but who cares!

I have decided to postpone my refeed. I am in a losing phase, which I have waited for, for more than a week. I'm dropping lbs doing the regular (albeit rogue) hhcg plan I'm on. So, I'm going to wait until my next stall to refeed. Knowing my body, I won't have to wait very long.

KUTGW!

catjrow3 · 04-09-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CherylB

Great news, ladies! You're doing wonderfully. Pace, what a bonus that was, to lose after a little food fest! It may be perplexing, but who cares!

I have decided to postpone my refeed. I am in a losing phase, which I have waited for, for more than a week. I'm dropping lbs doing the regular (albeit rogue) hhcg plan I'm on. So, I'm going to wait until my next stall to refeed. Knowing my body, I won't have to wait very long.

KUTGW!

Great job Cheryl, is this 2 lbs since yesterday again??? whooo HOOO!! You will be in the 170s in no time at this rate!!!!

CherylB · 04-09-2011, 08:41 AM

Cathy, I can't say for sure because I changed scales. But even my former scale says I'm under 190 today. It said 189.4, the new scale says 187.6. That's close to the 2 lb difference that there was between the scales yesterday, so I'm going to trust it and go with the new scale's number. I won't keep going back and forth between the two scales, but I thought it was wise for a day or two, just to compare.

I hit stalls and plateaus that last a week at a time, so even though it's whooshing right now, it will stop abruptly and hang up at a certain weight and I'll feel confidant in doing that refeed then. It wouldn't be much of an experiment to do it now, plus I don't want to mess up my body's rhythm.

ColleenMA66 · 04-09-2011, 08:49 AM

I do this. I get my "official" weigh in today (saturday) and I was down 2lbs from last week. I will eat today...pretty much what I want but I do try not to completely pig out. I eat the things I've been craving during the week. I may or may not weigh tomorrow....when I do I can be up anywhere from 1 to 3 lbs over my lowest weight. I usually take 2 days to get back to my low and then on to new territory.

I've been losing 1.5 - 2.2 consistently per week doing this and it works for me. I am not setting any records for weight loss but the overall direction is down and it's more consistent then I've ever had doing anything else.

I think I've been losing about 7 - 9 lbs in a month which is very acceptable to me. The big up tomorrow will suck and I always get scared that what if I don't get it off by the end of the week and nothing new but so far other than a few weeks where I completely lost my mind (TOM) I've been pretty consistent.

I don't know if this will get me all the way to goal but that's part of the process I guess....figuring out what is working today.

dina123 · 04-09-2011, 09:02 AM

Bump -

julieboolie · 04-09-2011, 02:29 PM

Thanks for updating us you brave re-feeders!! I agree w/ others, the ongoing trend is where we'll see if the re-feed really jump starts the losses.

Hope it goes well for you all!!

(not only b/c I'd love to do it myself one day, but also so you can enjoy success!!)

emel · 04-09-2011, 05:00 PM

I keep staring at this thread and topic whenever I visit the board.
I have mixed thoughts on refeeding.

I think it might be a valid option for breaking a stall or a lull in weight loss. It makes sense physiologically. Shocking the body with carbs mixes it up and might break us out of starvation mode weight-holding.

On the other hand, it seems to be a slippery slope in that we may be considering the option just because we miss off-plan foods and we're using this as rationalization for going off plan.

I guess I support the idea IF one's body gives signals that it needs a boost. I had a bad time of it during my last days of R1P2 --- I felt ill and weak. Perhaps a refeed might have kept me going on P2 instead of entering P3 after 30-ish days of P2 when I planned on doing 40.

I think I'll file this idea away for now, since today is my second load day for R2. If I feel badly in a few weeks, I might guinea pig it for the group.

CherylB · 04-09-2011, 06:20 PM

If someone is inclined to find ways to undermine their efforts, they will find those ways no matter what. I am so hell-bent on success with this plan that the only way I'd do a refeed is if it was in an attempt to kick-start things.

I know what you mean about feeling weak. I hadn't felt that way but for the past 2 days, I feel listless and weak as a kitten. I'm losing well these past 2 days, too. So I'm wondering if I am in need of a refeed for wellness sake more than for speed sake.

If I don't feel more energetic in the next two days, I don't care what the scale says. I'll do that refeed and see how I feel.

I actually feel sorry for anyone who would jump on this kind of "band wagon" just because they wanted to eat things they knew were off plan. Where does that get you? Right back to where you were, and where you want so desperately to never be again.

LoosinItNow · 04-09-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cookie34

Loosin, Your stats are close to me.. how long have you been on P2?

I started R1 on March 20th. My overall wt loss has been great, about 22 lbs for the whole round - but I started a stall last Sunday (well, sort of a "hover", really). Because of how very weak I was, I am not sorry that I did the 6 hour refeed. I lost 1.6 last night, and hope to loose more tonight, but I had a wacky day and will just have to see.

I didn't get to eat lunch, except the apple and melba, so was SO starving at dinner - around 7:30 pm. I was so hungry that while I was preparing dinner, I talked myself into 4 peices of chocolate crack. So we will see if that hurt me tomorrow!

I'm considering P3 on Wed, but really want to hit 230 this round, so if I see some movement the next few days, I will probably stick with it until that goal is met.

You are doing great, as well! Rock on!

obraxton · 04-09-2011, 06:43 PM

They (re-feeds) work but you have to have your head in the game, ready to go back to work the next day.
I've done one successful, one not-successful. The successful one when I was deliberate and planned the re-feed ahead of time gave me a week one type of success. Again, tho the other time my head wasn't in the right place. It wasn't deliberate, but it happened.

PiDevil · 04-10-2011, 04:49 AM

obraxton - Tell us more about your successful attempt. Was it a 24 hr refeed, a single meal or more? Did you eats lots of carbs? fats?

Inquiring minds need to know!

LoosinItNow · 04-10-2011, 06:17 AM

HAH! I'm down 2.4 lbs this morning!!!!!! That's what I'm talking about!!!! I'm back to my week one losses!!! I don't know if it was the refeed, or if my body just needed a break, but whatever, Wooo-wooo!!! I am 5.2 lbs to my first goal, which is 230. I'm going to stay in P2 until I meet it, as it is so close I can taste it! Go me!!

If I can hit 230 I will have lost 29 lbs in R2. I'm so psyched!

kaylem · 04-10-2011, 06:41 AM

Here's the whoosh I was looking for! 2.5 pounds gone as of this morning! Here are the facts:

Tues. 4/5: 148 (that was up .5 from a two day mini-stall of 147.5)
Began "re-feed" at 8pm that night

Weds. 4/6: 150.5 refeed all day. Ate what I wanted, limiting the amount of extra sugar. Felt bloated and had an upset stomach after eating. Continued with hhcg drops.

Thurs. 4/7: 151 Returned to VLCD. Hunger wasn't as bad, energy felt improved. Bernice was nice to me again

! (This WOULD have been my last dosing day on my original plan)

Fri. 4/8: 149.5 Continue with VLCD. Again, hunger didn't seem as bad. I FELT like I had shrunk, but the scales didn't reflect that.

Sat. 4/9: 148 Continue with VLCD. Not in virgin territory yet, but at least the scale is moving DOWN. Eat out tonight w/ hubby, had a salad with grilled chicken, fajita onions and salsa. I also drank two cups of yerba mate tea and had two doses of ACV today.

Sun. 4/10: 145.5 VIRGIN TERRITORY--as in, "I was 17 years old the last time I weighed this and now I am 37" virgin territory!!

NOW. In the interest of Full disclosure and unbiased examination, would I have reached 145.5 by today if I had NOT done the re-feed? There is a very good possibility that I would have. I think the real value of the re-feed for me was purely psychological because I FELT like I was in some way controlling something. Eating "normally" for a day was a nice mental break, and then also waking up to losses for three days after returning to VLCD was also pleasing. So, in all likelihood, this experiment didn't speed up my loss, but gave my mind a much needed re-juvenation. (Of course, I will change my opinion if I show two pound losses for the next couple of days!

BUT I WILL TAKE IT EITHER WAY!

Have a beautiful Sunday, ladies!

(And, Nicely done, Loosin' It now!)

2011me · 04-10-2011, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kaylem

Here's the whoosh I was looking for! 2.5 pounds gone as of this morning! Here are the facts:

Tues. 4/5: 148 (that was up .5 from a two day mini-stall of 147.5)
Began "re-feed" at 8pm that night

Weds. 4/6: 150.5 refeed all day. Ate what I wanted, limiting the amount of extra sugar. Felt bloated and had an upset stomach after eating. Continued with hhcg drops.

Thurs. 4/7: 151 Returned to VLCD. Hunger wasn't as bad, energy felt improved. Bernice was nice to me again

! (This WOULD have been my last dosing day on my original plan)

Fri. 4/8: 149.5 Continue with VLCD. Again, hunger didn't seem as bad. I FELT like I had shrunk, but the scales didn't reflect that.

Sat. 4/9: 148 Continue with VLCD. Not in virgin territory yet, but at least the scale is moving DOWN. Eat out tonight w/ hubby, had a salad with grilled chicken, fajita onions and salsa. I also drank two cups of yerba mate tea and had two doses of ACV today.

Sun. 4/10: 145.5 VIRGIN TERRITORY--as in, "I was 17 years old the last time I weighed this and now I am 37" virgin territory!!

NOW. In the interest of Full disclosure and unbiased examination, would I have reached 145.5 by today if I had NOT done the re-feed? There is a very good possibility that I would have. I think the real value of the re-feed for me was purely psychological because I FELT like I was in some way controlling something. Eating "normally" for a day was a nice mental break, and then also waking up to losses for three days after returning to VLCD was also pleasing. So, in all likelihood, this experiment didn't speed up my loss, but gave my mind a much needed re-juvenation. (Of course, I will change my opinion if I show two pound losses for the next couple of days!

BUT I WILL TAKE IT EITHER WAY!

Have a beautiful Sunday, ladies!

(And, Nicely done, Loosin' It now!)

Nice!!!

julieboolie · 04-10-2011, 07:21 AM

YAY for Kay and Losin!! WTG!! So, the refeed is working for you!!

Kay-I always do the "what if's" too. I had a 7 day stall in R1 and debated upping cals the whole time. I just stayed the course and never really did start losing well again. I think for us long time losers our bodies start to figure it out and become quite efficient at low calories. I think the re-feed reassures our body that it's all ok! Congrats!! Hope the rest of your week goes well too!!

sarah6176 · 04-10-2011, 07:43 AM

Kaylem - that's awesome!!! I'm so glad to hear.

Well, checking in after my crazy refeed yesterday. What a day....I started out trying not to overdo it. I had turkey sausage, eggs, and 2 regular muffins that I made. The plan was to have a small sandwich for lunch. My daughter talked me into Chic-fil-A. So, I had a 8pc, small fry, & diet lemonade. Dinner or evening was kind of a blur. My sister had a housewarming party and my brother-in-law made some gourmet food. I somehow got stuck frying lumpia for 2 hours. During this time, my brother-in-law had me trying all sorts of stuff. I have no idea of exactly how much I ate. By the time we left at 10pm, my ribs felt like they were being forced apart because even the top of my stomach was so full.

I fell asleep because I was so tired and I've not slept better in the entire 30 days on P2. Back on the scale and I almost cried......5lb gain. I know most of that will be gone tomorrow because I'm now probably stopped up. So, we shall see what the days ahead bring. Yikes!!! I hope this works at least to be back to 145 by the end of my shots. I have 10 days left.

Good luck everyone else!!!

CherylB · 04-10-2011, 09:29 AM

Yea, Kay! Don't forget to update your ticker! Claim that number! It's yours.

Sarah, hope you have good results from your refeed, too!

mermaid · 04-10-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by julieboolie

YAY for Kay and Losin!! WTG!! So, the refeed is working for you!!

Kay-I always do the "what if's" too. I had a 7 day stall in R1 and debated upping cals the whole time. I just stayed the course and never really did start losing well again. I think for us long time losers our bodies start to figure it out and become quite efficient at low calories. I think the re-feed reassures our body that it's all ok! Congrats!! Hope the rest of your week goes well too!!

Yeah, Julie. I think that's it in a nutshell! I am feeling so much better after just one meal off plan. Of course, TOM was ending at that time too, but I still think the refeed was good psychologically and physically. Both of those aspects are very important for us "long-time losers."

Have a great Sunday in your size 4 jeans!!!

mermaid · 04-10-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by obraxton

They (re-feeds) work but you have to have your head in the game, ready to go back to work the next day.
I've done one successful, one not-successful. The successful one when I was deliberate and planned the re-feed ahead of time gave me a week one type of success. Again, tho the other time my head wasn't in the right place. It wasn't deliberate, but it happened.

I totally agree! I don't believe in cheating, but I do believe in refeeds, which are two different things. One is controlled and the other is not. Keeping control and getting right back to business is the key to success.

mermaid · 04-10-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LoosinItNow

HAH! I'm down 2.4 lbs this morning!!!!!! That's what I'm talking about!!!! I'm back to my week one losses!!! I don't know if it was the refeed, or if my body just needed a break, but whatever, Wooo-wooo!!! I am 5.2 lbs to my first goal, which is 230. I'm going to stay in P2 until I meet it, as it is so close I can taste it! Go me!!

If I can hit 230 I will have lost 29 lbs in R2. I'm so psyched!

WOW!!! You go girl!

KOO · 04-10-2011, 10:16 AM

Congrats Kay!

pacetbostic · 04-10-2011, 10:27 AM

I was up .8 this morning after eating conservatively yesterday.

I had 2 pieces of bacon, 2 pancakes w/SF syrup and some scrambled eggs w/cheese (hubby was going for the margerine to make the eggs and I told him to use coconut oil instead

...baby steps for him) for breakfast, 1 slice of leftover pizza and a handfull of lightly salted potato chips at lunchtime and for dinner we had Philly CheeseSteak sandwiches with steak fries. I also drank Coke most of the day.

Today I have had the last piece of pizza and for dinner we are having spaghetti made with lean ground beef and I got whole wheat pasta for myself.

Tomorrow, it's back to protocol and lots of chicken. Lets hope I have a nice whoosh early in the week!

CherylB · 04-10-2011, 10:32 AM

losingIt! I'm so sorry I forgot to mention you in my last post! I am not up to par these last 3 days and probably NEED a refeed, but haven't done one yet. Wooohoooo, girlfriend! WTG!

Best of luck, Pace! Sounds yummy, BTW.

obraxton · 04-10-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PiDevil

obraxton - Tell us more about your successful attempt. Was it a 24 hr refeed, a single meal or more? Did you eats lots of carbs? fats?

Inquiring minds need to know!

Lunch and dinner refeed for me, usually a weekend day. The article you refer to above, it actually had a different article and was replaced by this, and that was the one I followed. I didn't overindulge in carbs, and for extra kick, I drank a laxative tea on my very last bite. Kind of the thing you would do on a Saturday night and plan to go back to on Sunday morning. The old article had a slow refeed process making lunch P3 style and the dinner more liberal, and with lots of water. If you plan to eat lots of carbs then definitely not past 24 hours. I did drink Michelob ultras I remember. I think I gained like a pound the next day after I went right back to P2 I started losing back again pretty steadily. (I was in a stall phase, so for me it was worth it).

But you've gotta be very careful. I have emotional eating issues so it didn't do me any good the second time. If I ever do hcg again and its a long round I would plan 14 day interval refeeds.

I guess if it works for you, if you're stalling but don't want to quit hcg then go for it. I don't think that people that try something different are deliberatly sabatoging themselves, just trying to find out what works for them. It's not easy, Lord knows if it was I wouldn't be here. Me personally I don't think that going past a day of refeed is a good idea, b/c your body begins to return to the habits that held the weight on. But a day, just a day of refeed if your head is right for it, it will give you good results.

rorita · 04-10-2011, 11:40 AM

I'm on Atkins, not HCG, but I'm doing a refeed today. I saw this list of low leptin symptoms:

"1) you have reached a weight where in the past it has been very difficult, if not impossible, to progress past, even when you decrease calories or exercise a little more (this is a sign of you being at a set point, and your body thinks losing any more body fat threatens your future existence so it slows down all metabolic processes to compensate for any further calorie cuts from diet, or increases in energy expendature from exercise)
2) before this point, you were losing weight nicely (if you have been having trouble losing since the begining, this points to another problem, such as not having your calories low enough or not exercising enough, in otherwords your calorie deficit is not large enough)
3) you have suddenly developed a much larger appetite (low leptin relative to baseline makes you hungry)
4) you have suddenly developed low body temp and other signs of hypothyroid. (low leptin levels signal to your body to cut back on metabolic processes to conserve energy, and your body will induce hypothyroidism for this reason)
5) you are fatigued, your muscles and body aches (non-exercise related).
6) you have been losing more muscle mass (you have become "flabbier"). (again, to cut down on metabolic processes when your body senses starvation, it begins to save the fat but canabalize its own protein, as protein is very metabolically active)"

and that is me to a tee! I weigh 145 now, which is a few pounds lower than what I've ever been able to get to with diet and exercise since I was in middle school and passed it up (stopped at 189 sophomore year). I just ate a handful of chocolate chips. I already feel like crap. I'll probably eat more bagels than candy; sugar makes my face itch. I don't really feel like I need this mentally- I'm enjoying Atkins- but I do feel like I need it physically. I've been circling 145 lbs for 2 weeks now, feeling tired and sore and voraciously hungry... and I'm ready to lose some weight. If it works, I don't think it will be as easy to see as with the hcg diet but I'll still report.

CherylB · 04-10-2011, 12:08 PM

I've done Atkins (1972 version) for months and months prior to the hhcg experience. But I don't think you can do a refeed on Atkins. The body is merely going to see it as a cheat and your losses will stop for about a week. Been there, done that.

Prove me wrong, okay?

04-09-2011, 08:41 AM	#187
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,070 Gallery: CherylB	Cathy, I can't say for sure because I changed scales. But even my former scale says I'm under 190 today. It said 189.4, the new scale says 187.6. That's close to the 2 lb difference that there was between the scales yesterday, so I'm going to trust it and go with the new scale's number. I won't keep going back and forth between the two scales, but I thought it was wise for a day or two, just to compare. I hit stalls and plateaus that last a week at a time, so even though it's whooshing right now, it will stop abruptly and hang up at a certain weight and I'll feel confidant in doing that refeed then. It wouldn't be much of an experiment to do it now, plus I don't want to mess up my body's rhythm. __________________ What we sow today, we will certainly reap tomorrow. Spend your time wisely. Make it count. There are no do-overs in life. And the clock is ticking.

04-09-2011, 05:00 PM	#191
emel Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: VA Posts: 16,354 Gallery: emel	I keep staring at this thread and topic whenever I visit the board. I have mixed thoughts on refeeding. I think it might be a valid option for breaking a stall or a lull in weight loss. It makes sense physiologically. Shocking the body with carbs mixes it up and might break us out of starvation mode weight-holding. On the other hand, it seems to be a slippery slope in that we may be considering the option just because we miss off-plan foods and we're using this as rationalization for going off plan. I guess I support the idea IF one's body gives signals that it needs a boost. I had a bad time of it during my last days of R1P2 --- I felt ill and weak. Perhaps a refeed might have kept me going on P2 instead of entering P3 after 30-ish days of P2 when I planned on doing 40. I think I'll file this idea away for now, since today is my second load day for R2. If I feel badly in a few weeks, I might guinea pig it for the group. __________________ It's just a box of rain, I don't know who put it there Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare But it's just a box of rain or a ribbon for your hair Such a long long time to be gone and a short time to be there.

04-09-2011, 06:43 PM	#194
obraxton Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South Carolina gal livin in South Jersey Posts: 3,485 Gallery: obraxton Stats: 260/189/142 WOE: bariatric sleeve/high protein-low sugar Start Date: WLS/Sleeve/5-9-11	They (re-feeds) work but you have to have your head in the game, ready to go back to work the next day. I've done one successful, one not-successful. The successful one when I was deliberate and planned the re-feed ahead of time gave me a week one type of success. Again, tho the other time my head wasn't in the right place. It wasn't deliberate, but it happened. Last edited by obraxton; 04-09-2011 at 06:45 PM..

04-10-2011, 06:41 AM	#197
kaylem Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 384 Gallery: kaylem Stats: R6:176.5/159/140; 5'8" WOE: hhcg R6P2 Start Date: 2/10/13	There must be Something in the WATER! Here's the whoosh I was looking for! 2.5 pounds gone as of this morning! Here are the facts: Tues. 4/5: 148 (that was up .5 from a two day mini-stall of 147.5) Began "re-feed" at 8pm that night Weds. 4/6: 150.5 refeed all day. Ate what I wanted, limiting the amount of extra sugar. Felt bloated and had an upset stomach after eating. Continued with hhcg drops. Thurs. 4/7: 151 Returned to VLCD. Hunger wasn't as bad, energy felt improved. Bernice was nice to me again! (This WOULD have been my last dosing day on my original plan) Fri. 4/8: 149.5 Continue with VLCD. Again, hunger didn't seem as bad. I FELT like I had shrunk, but the scales didn't reflect that. Sat. 4/9: 148 Continue with VLCD. Not in virgin territory yet, but at least the scale is moving DOWN. Eat out tonight w/ hubby, had a salad with grilled chicken, fajita onions and salsa. I also drank two cups of yerba mate tea and had two doses of ACV today. Sun. 4/10: 145.5 VIRGIN TERRITORY--as in, "I was 17 years old the last time I weighed this and now I am 37" virgin territory!! NOW. In the interest of Full disclosure and unbiased examination, would I have reached 145.5 by today if I had NOT done the re-feed? There is a very good possibility that I would have. I think the real value of the re-feed for me was purely psychological because I FELT like I was in some way controlling something. Eating "normally" for a day was a nice mental break, and then also waking up to losses for three days after returning to VLCD was also pleasing. So, in all likelihood, this experiment didn't speed up my loss, but gave my mind a much needed re-juvenation. (Of course, I will change my opinion if I show two pound losses for the next couple of days! BUT I WILL TAKE IT EITHER WAY! Have a beautiful Sunday, ladies! (And, Nicely done, Loosin' It now!)

04-10-2011, 10:32 AM	#207
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,070 Gallery: CherylB	losingIt! I'm so sorry I forgot to mention you in my last post! I am not up to par these last 3 days and probably NEED a refeed, but haven't done one yet. Wooohoooo, girlfriend! WTG! Best of luck, Pace! Sounds yummy, BTW. Last edited by CherylB; 04-10-2011 at 10:34 AM..

04-09-2011, 07:22 AM	#181
pacetbostic Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Murfreesboro, Tennessee Posts: 85 Gallery: pacetbostic Stats: 132/132/115 WOE: HHCG Start Date: March 26, 2011	Because I'm a glutton for punishment, I got on the scale this morning. After 2 slices of extra cheese deep dish pizza, 3 hot wings and 2 real cokes I was down .4

04-09-2011, 07:23 AM	#182
cookie34 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lake Elsinore, Ca Posts: 3,912 Gallery: cookie34 Stats: 273/186/150 WOE: VSG/Low Carb Start Date: 5/20/2012	Loosin, Your stats are close to me.. how long have you been on P2?

04-09-2011, 08:34 AM	#185
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,070 Gallery: CherylB	Great news, ladies! You're doing wonderfully. Pace, what a bonus that was, to lose after a little food fest! It may be perplexing, but who cares! I have decided to postpone my refeed. I am in a losing phase, which I have waited for, for more than a week. I'm dropping lbs doing the regular (albeit rogue) hhcg plan I'm on. So, I'm going to wait until my next stall to refeed. Knowing my body, I won't have to wait very long. KUTGW!

04-09-2011, 08:49 AM	#188
ColleenMA66 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MA Posts: 504 Gallery: ColleenMA66 Stats: 227/???/147ish I think? WOE: HCG/Hunger Scale WLA Start Date: December 1 2008	I do this. I get my "official" weigh in today (saturday) and I was down 2lbs from last week. I will eat today...pretty much what I want but I do try not to completely pig out. I eat the things I've been craving during the week. I may or may not weigh tomorrow....when I do I can be up anywhere from 1 to 3 lbs over my lowest weight. I usually take 2 days to get back to my low and then on to new territory. I've been losing 1.5 - 2.2 consistently per week doing this and it works for me. I am not setting any records for weight loss but the overall direction is down and it's more consistent then I've ever had doing anything else. I think I've been losing about 7 - 9 lbs in a month which is very acceptable to me. The big up tomorrow will suck and I always get scared that what if I don't get it off by the end of the week and nothing new but so far other than a few weeks where I completely lost my mind (TOM) I've been pretty consistent. I don't know if this will get me all the way to goal but that's part of the process I guess....figuring out what is working today.

04-09-2011, 09:02 AM	#189
dina123 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SC Posts: 53 Gallery: dina123 Stats: 238/203(atkins)160/150ish Start Date: Atkins 6/2010-SimeonsP&I 10/17/10	Bump -

04-09-2011, 02:29 PM	#190
julieboolie Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunny AZ Posts: 7,114 Gallery: julieboolie Stats: 272/147.6/140something Size 24/4-6-8/4-6 :) WOE: one day at a time!! LC! Start Date: July 14, 2003 - every day!!	Thanks for updating us you brave re-feeders!! I agree w/ others, the ongoing trend is where we'll see if the re-feed really jump starts the losses. Hope it goes well for you all!! (not only b/c I'd love to do it myself one day, but also so you can enjoy success!!)

04-09-2011, 06:20 PM	#192
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,070 Gallery: CherylB	If someone is inclined to find ways to undermine their efforts, they will find those ways no matter what. I am so hell-bent on success with this plan that the only way I'd do a refeed is if it was in an attempt to kick-start things. I know what you mean about feeling weak. I hadn't felt that way but for the past 2 days, I feel listless and weak as a kitten. I'm losing well these past 2 days, too. So I'm wondering if I am in need of a refeed for wellness sake more than for speed sake. If I don't feel more energetic in the next two days, I don't care what the scale says. I'll do that refeed and see how I feel. I actually feel sorry for anyone who would jump on this kind of "band wagon" just because they wanted to eat things they knew were off plan. Where does that get you? Right back to where you were, and where you want so desperately to never be again.

04-10-2011, 04:49 AM	#195
PiDevil Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,757 Gallery: PiDevil Stats: 243.8/183.8/New Goal - 155 WOE: Atkins 72/hhcg R1 started 1/30/11 Start Date: 3/4/2002	obraxton - Tell us more about your successful attempt. Was it a 24 hr refeed, a single meal or more? Did you eats lots of carbs? fats? Inquiring minds need to know!

04-10-2011, 06:17 AM	#196
LoosinItNow Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 168 Gallery: LoosinItNow Stats: 305/287/180 goal WOE: Lost 30 w/HCG to 230, Sick 1yr, back to 305! Start Date: This time, Jan 28, 2013	HAH! I'm down 2.4 lbs this morning!!!!!! That's what I'm talking about!!!! I'm back to my week one losses!!! I don't know if it was the refeed, or if my body just needed a break, but whatever, Wooo-wooo!!! I am 5.2 lbs to my first goal, which is 230. I'm going to stay in P2 until I meet it, as it is so close I can taste it! Go me!! If I can hit 230 I will have lost 29 lbs in R2. I'm so psyched!

04-10-2011, 07:21 AM	#199
julieboolie Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunny AZ Posts: 7,114 Gallery: julieboolie Stats: 272/147.6/140something Size 24/4-6-8/4-6 :) WOE: one day at a time!! LC! Start Date: July 14, 2003 - every day!!	YAY for Kay and Losin!! WTG!! So, the refeed is working for you!! Kay-I always do the "what if's" too. I had a 7 day stall in R1 and debated upping cals the whole time. I just stayed the course and never really did start losing well again. I think for us long time losers our bodies start to figure it out and become quite efficient at low calories. I think the re-feed reassures our body that it's all ok! Congrats!! Hope the rest of your week goes well too!!

04-10-2011, 07:43 AM	#200
sarah6176 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Southeast Virginia Posts: 6 Gallery: sarah6176 Stats: 165/144/140 WOE: HCG Injection Start Date: 3/11/2011	Kaylem - that's awesome!!! I'm so glad to hear. Well, checking in after my crazy refeed yesterday. What a day....I started out trying not to overdo it. I had turkey sausage, eggs, and 2 regular muffins that I made. The plan was to have a small sandwich for lunch. My daughter talked me into Chic-fil-A. So, I had a 8pc, small fry, & diet lemonade. Dinner or evening was kind of a blur. My sister had a housewarming party and my brother-in-law made some gourmet food. I somehow got stuck frying lumpia for 2 hours. During this time, my brother-in-law had me trying all sorts of stuff. I have no idea of exactly how much I ate. By the time we left at 10pm, my ribs felt like they were being forced apart because even the top of my stomach was so full. I fell asleep because I was so tired and I've not slept better in the entire 30 days on P2. Back on the scale and I almost cried......5lb gain. I know most of that will be gone tomorrow because I'm now probably stopped up. So, we shall see what the days ahead bring. Yikes!!! I hope this works at least to be back to 145 by the end of my shots. I have 10 days left. Good luck everyone else!!!

04-10-2011, 09:29 AM	#201
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,070 Gallery: CherylB	Yea, Kay! Don't forget to update your ticker! Claim that number! It's yours. Sarah, hope you have good results from your refeed, too!

04-10-2011, 10:16 AM	#205
KOO Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 20,759 Gallery: KOO Stats: Starting 183(2/06)now below.... WOE: Hcg 9/12/12...142.5/134/130	Congrats Kay!

04-10-2011, 10:27 AM	#206
pacetbostic Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Murfreesboro, Tennessee Posts: 85 Gallery: pacetbostic Stats: 132/132/115 WOE: HHCG Start Date: March 26, 2011	I was up .8 this morning after eating conservatively yesterday. I had 2 pieces of bacon, 2 pancakes w/SF syrup and some scrambled eggs w/cheese (hubby was going for the margerine to make the eggs and I told him to use coconut oil instead ...baby steps for him) for breakfast, 1 slice of leftover pizza and a handfull of lightly salted potato chips at lunchtime and for dinner we had Philly CheeseSteak sandwiches with steak fries. I also drank Coke most of the day. Today I have had the last piece of pizza and for dinner we are having spaghetti made with lean ground beef and I got whole wheat pasta for myself. Tomorrow, it's back to protocol and lots of chicken. Lets hope I have a nice whoosh early in the week!

04-10-2011, 11:40 AM	#209
rorita Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: South Suburbs, IL Posts: 148 Gallery: rorita Stats: (189) 152/145/130 5'5" WOE: hcg subq Start Date: 8/20/11	I'm on Atkins, not HCG, but I'm doing a refeed today. I saw this list of low leptin symptoms: "1) you have reached a weight where in the past it has been very difficult, if not impossible, to progress past, even when you decrease calories or exercise a little more (this is a sign of you being at a set point, and your body thinks losing any more body fat threatens your future existence so it slows down all metabolic processes to compensate for any further calorie cuts from diet, or increases in energy expendature from exercise) 2) before this point, you were losing weight nicely (if you have been having trouble losing since the begining, this points to another problem, such as not having your calories low enough or not exercising enough, in otherwords your calorie deficit is not large enough) 3) you have suddenly developed a much larger appetite (low leptin relative to baseline makes you hungry) 4) you have suddenly developed low body temp and other signs of hypothyroid. (low leptin levels signal to your body to cut back on metabolic processes to conserve energy, and your body will induce hypothyroidism for this reason) 5) you are fatigued, your muscles and body aches (non-exercise related). 6) you have been losing more muscle mass (you have become "flabbier"). (again, to cut down on metabolic processes when your body senses starvation, it begins to save the fat but canabalize its own protein, as protein is very metabolically active)" and that is me to a tee! I weigh 145 now, which is a few pounds lower than what I've ever been able to get to with diet and exercise since I was in middle school and passed it up (stopped at 189 sophomore year). I just ate a handful of chocolate chips. I already feel like crap. I'll probably eat more bagels than candy; sugar makes my face itch. I don't really feel like I need this mentally- I'm enjoying Atkins- but I do feel like I need it physically. I've been circling 145 lbs for 2 weeks now, feeling tired and sore and voraciously hungry... and I'm ready to lose some weight. If it works, I don't think it will be as easy to see as with the hcg diet but I'll still report.

04-10-2011, 12:08 PM	#210
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,070 Gallery: CherylB	I've done Atkins (1972 version) for months and months prior to the hhcg experience. But I don't think you can do a refeed on Atkins. The body is merely going to see it as a cheat and your losses will stop for about a week. Been there, done that. Prove me wrong, okay?

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