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Old 04-16-2011, 09:21 AM   #301
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I'm sorry it didn't work out for you Julie. My refeed went pretty well, I think. I was stalled at about 144.5 and I finally came down to 143 today. I'm also feeling less fatigue in my muscles.

I can see how you would want to avoid refeeds from now on, Julie, but to keep the facts straight for everyone else, one meal of chicken chili, salad, and chocolate chips does not a refeed make. At any rate, don't get discouraged, I would LOVE to be in some size 4s right now.


I want to point out that I'm not doing hcg, though.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:46 AM   #302
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Well ladies, here's my update post refeed:

4/10/11 182.2 lbs Refeed Day 11AM to 8PM
4/11/11 185.5 lbs 3.3 lb Gain
4/12/11 184.2 lbs 1.3 lb Loss
4/13/11 183.0 lbs 1.2 lb Loss
4/14/11 180.8 lbs 2.2 lb Loss
4/15/11 180.3 lbs .5 lb Loss
4/16/11 179.3 lbs 1.0 lb Loss

A net loss for the 6 days post refeed of 2.9.
My one day refeed included fats as well as proteins and high dose of carbs. I went by an article someone posted about refeeds and Hcg diets saying NOT to limit fats and proteinsor carbs. I did not eat to capacity as with loading days but did eat to satisfaction and my food included a few cookies but not much else in the way of refined sugar.

I consider the refeed a sucess in my case simply because it's been consistant losses rather than the up and down pattern that started about 2 weeks into my first round and lasted for 2 weeks until I went to P3. I was beginning to see that happen again in this round and that was the main reason I decided to do the refeed.

Another factor to consider is that I am still considerably overweight with 50-60 lbs or so yet to lose so I definately do not fall into the lean category that some say the refeed is designed for.

Make no mistake, it does prolong the round as it takes time for the body to lose the weight gained from the refeed plus I lost a day from the refeed day itself but I personally would rather have that than the roller coaster ride I had in round one where I stayed on protocol. I'm just happy I broke into a new decade today! Haven't been here for about 7-8 years! Whoo Hoooo!!
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I'm sorry it didn't work out for you Julie. My refeed went pretty well, I think. I was stalled at about 144.5 and I finally came down to 143 today. I'm also feeling less fatigue in my muscles.

I can see how you would want to avoid refeeds from now on, Julie, but to keep the facts straight for everyone else, one meal of chicken chili, salad, and chocolate chips does not a refeed make. At any rate, don't get discouraged, I would LOVE to be in some size 4s right now.


I want to point out that I'm not doing hcg, though.
Do you mean you quit doing hcg for the refeed period or you are not doing hcg at all?
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That's wonderful news, Jodarina! No, I think she doesn't do hcg at all. That is kind of confusing to some of us, since this is on the hcg forum and is technically a hcg thread. I hope people will try to remember who is who and what is what, so we can gather the data we need for our own plans.

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Old 04-16-2011, 01:08 PM   #305
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That's wonderful news, Jodarina! No, I think she doesn't do hcg at all. That is kind of confusing to some of us, since this is on the hcg forum and is technically a hcg thread. I hope people will try to remember who is who and what is what, so we can gather the data we need for our own plans.

Congrats on the new decade!!!

That's why I'm trying to mention it on each post but I'm sorry if I'm confusing people. :blush: My mom and I will be starting hcg next month, so I haunt the threads a lot. The only reason I'm still replying was because I posted that I wasn't doing hcg but I wanted to try it with ya'll anyway and someone said they didn't think the refeed would work for me. But it did.
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I'm sorry it didn't work out for you Julie. My refeed went pretty well, I think. I was stalled at about 144.5 and I finally came down to 143 today. I'm also feeling less fatigue in my muscles.

I can see how you would want to avoid refeeds from now on, Julie, but to keep the facts straight for everyone else, one meal of chicken chili, salad, and chocolate chips does not a refeed make. At any rate, don't get discouraged, I would LOVE to be in some size 4s right now.


I want to point out that I'm not doing hcg, though.
Oh, you're NOT doing hcg? I didn't realize that. Thought this refeed suggestion was specifically targetted toward the very low calorie hcg plan . So, to keep the facts straight - doing a heavy carb re-feed during Atkins could certainly have a different result. I do suspect when you're only eating 500-800 cals (hcg) and then do a "refeed" (which we've seen means different things to different people) your body will probably react differently than coming from a higher calorie diet. Even going from P2 to P3 adding in more food you gain, which is to be expected. It's the "losing that follows should improve" part that I'm still waiting for. Thanks for your input though. I've been an Atkins girl for the past 8 years, and know my body is happiest on Atkins. The extreme calorie restriction of hcg plan is effective, but very hard to stick with.

Jodarina-yeah!! So glad to hear it's working well for you!! WTG!!
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Oh, you're NOT doing hcg? I didn't realize that. Thought this refeed suggestion was specifically targetted toward the very low calorie hcg plan . So, to keep the facts straight - doing a heavy carb re-feed during Atkins could certainly have a different result. I do suspect when you're only eating 500-800 cals (hcg) and then do a "refeed" (which we've seen means different things to different people) your body will probably react differently than coming from a higher calorie diet. Even going from P2 to P3 adding in more food you gain, which is to be expected. It's the "losing that follows should improve" part that I'm still waiting for. Thanks for your input though. I've been an Atkins girl for the past 8 years, and know my body is happiest on Atkins. The extreme calorie restriction of hcg plan is effective, but very hard to stick with.

Jodarina-yeah!! So glad to hear it's working well for you!! WTG!!
The guidelines for refeeds are based more on your caloric intake to maintain weight than lose, which would be similar across most diets. hcg-ers in fact, would technically need to do more refeeds because of their very low caloric intake, but the hcg is minimizing your need to do it that often (imagine being that low calorie without the hcg ).
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Old 04-17-2011, 04:27 AM   #308
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I'm back on VLC today!! Like many folks have stated, I am looking forward to woe now. I have put on a hefty 8 pounds, but I do believe a lot of it is water weight. I didn't go super crazy, but I did allow myself to indulge obviously. I still feel a lil sad because dh and I were planning on a late celebration with a bottle of wine, but DD got in the way of that!
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Another loss this morning of .7 Have had consistant losses since the refeed. No gains, no stalls. That alone was worth it for me. My net loss for week 2 was 3, net loss for week 3 (includes refeed)was 3.6. Today would have been my last dose day if I had not done the refeed but now I'll extend P2 at least 4 days, maybe more if my body is still willing to lose.
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Awesome! I'm so happy for you! Keep it up and see how far it takes you. Keep us posted!

Day 6 post refeed and I'm still above my pre refeed weight, but I'm happy just to be back below 190 again.
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I've lost 4 pounds in the last 6 days since my refeed!
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Old 04-17-2011, 08:16 PM   #313
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Just popping in to say I'm joining the ranks of our brave guinea pigs. I'm having a refeed tonight (a bit of an extended dinner), as I'm at VLCD 43, and planning on going straight through until I'm at goal (probably another 20 lbs).

I lost really well the first 5 weeks...but then completely stalled in the 6th, going up and down the same darned pound at a previous setpoint. (ARRRRRGGGHHHH!)

I felt really depleted this past week. Muscle fatigue for no real reason, that kind of thing. And having a more difficult time with cravings, too. I eat yogurt 2x a day as my protein...and while I adore yogurt, I'm definitely a little bored with it after 40+ days. So...I decided tonight would be the night for a mini-refeed.

I'm not going crazy eating as much of anything that I want. I AM having a little of a bunch of things I've been wanting, making for a fairly unconventional refeed meal.

So far, I've had:
2 combos (wow, I missed them)
a piece of pizza (I wanted to eat 6 pieces when I saw the pizza! But found after one, I was pleasantly full)
2 nutter butters
1/3 lb salmon with mayo/lemon/dill topping
a few slices of cheddar and monterey jack cheese, a few crackers
6 pieces of sushi (avocado roll...which has rice, avocado, seaweed, and low sodium soy sauce)

I may also have some yogurt before bed. Just because it's good for me, and I know my bod will be happy for the protein.

I'll be very happy if any refeed weight comes off within a couple of days and I have renewed commitment to a VLC diet. I definitely want to keep going, but mentally...I really needed a little break.

I'll post again when I have an idea of how it went!
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That sounds like a smart way to do it, GSW. I hope it makes you feel more like yourself. You've been on a long rounds so far, and if you want to go straight through, that's going to be quite a bit longer. If you can refeed every now and then and boost things up a little, then that would be wonderful!

I am finally below my refeed weight today, by 0.4 lbs. It's day 7 so it's not something I would call a revelation. And the past 2 days I've been very strict (I'm rogue, but strict on my plan; no fruit or grain.) I'm going to stay strict for today and possibly tomorrow and see what happens.

Easter is still something that I'm undecided upon. If I do a one-day refeed (aka cheat) it will be a full 2 weeks since the first one. I will NOT be eating a ton of food or calories though, if I do that. If not, I'll be eating P3 foods, so Atkins.
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Old 04-18-2011, 07:56 AM   #315
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This is crazy! I've been losing a pound almost every day since my refeed. Unfortunately, I'm running out of the HCG due to spills and getting used to the needle in the beginning...
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A quick update about the refeed...and going to recap what I ate so it's all together for anyone new trying to keep track.

I did an unconventional refeed meal (unconventional because of the weird food I ate that I wouldn't ordinarily put together in a meal!) and included some of my favorite things that I haven't been able to eat in the last 40+ days.

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2 combos
a piece of pizza (I wanted to eat 6 pieces when I saw the pizza! But found after one, I was pleasantly full)
2 nutter butters
1/3 lb salmon with mayo/lemon/dill topping
a few slices of cheddar and monterey jack cheese, a few crackers
6 pieces of sushi (avocado roll...which has rice, avocado, seaweed, and low sodium soy sauce)
1/2 an apple
1 reese's peanut butter cup

After eating all of that over several hours...I didn't feel sick to my stomach, or gassy or bloated. I felt ....very full, though. And happy! It was nice to indulge a little. Everything was delicious; I didn't go overboard on anything I ate as far as amounts.

And as of this morning, I am UP 1.8 lbs.
I'm totally good with that! And feel that for 1.8 lbs...an amount I could sometimes go up overnight with no real understandable explanation...it was just totally worth it to me. Having spent the last 8 days bouncing around the same pound...mentally it was just nice to have a break. I already can feel that the muscle and mental fatigue I'd been feeling is definitely lifting!

I'll post again when I have more info. Trying to eat pretty clean today (my version of clean, since I'm a rogue-er). I definitely feel re-committed to VLC eating!
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Glad you're feeling rejuvinated! Looking forward to see how it affects your stall.
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That's great Girlsaidwhat! I experienced the same thing. I became re-committed to the VLC eating again, which made the whole thing worth it for me.

Once I lost the pounds gained on the refeed, I've been losing a pound almost every day now and I really feel the inches coming off!
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That's great Girlsaidwhat! I experienced the same thing. I became re-committed to the VLC eating again, which made the whole thing worth it for me.

Once I lost the pounds gained on the refeed, I've been losing a pound almost every day now and I really feel the inches coming off!
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I think I'm going to do a refeed meal every 2 weeks. This way I will gain less and I will be able to enjoy myself more often. I just have to really work on discipline.
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Lucky~ I think that's what's I'll do on my next round too. The 24 hr refeed kept me going when I was ready to quit but I think just a really good meal would have done the same thing.
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Ok...I think I'm going to declare my refeed a success, beyond what I had hoped.

I said going in that for me, if I felt renewed energy and also renewed commitment toward VLC days, and any weight gained during the refeed was back off within two or three days, I would feel it was successful.

I gained 1.8 lbs the morning after the refeed meal...another .4 the next morning (I did eat something off plan the day after the refeed meal out of necessity, so I wasn't really surprised at the additional gain). Four days after my refeed meal, I'm down not just the 1.8 lbs I gained from the refeed, but also the .4 from the day after, *plus an additional 1.2 lbs*. So, since my refeed meal, I am down 3.4 lbs!

I'm soooo glad I did it. I'm at VLCD47 (OMG, I honestly was so proud of myself that I made it ten days in, can't believe I'm at day 47!) I do think that either from this point out, I'll do a refeed meal every two weeks (as Luckychee mentioned she thinks she'll do) OR I may eventually do something like P3 eating on the weekends and P2 during the week.

Hope this helps folks! : )
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Ok...I think I'm going to declare my refeed a success, beyond what I had hoped.

I said going in that for me, if I felt renewed energy and also renewed commitment toward VLC days, and any weight gained during the refeed was back off within two or three days, I would feel it was successful.

I gained 1.8 lbs the morning after the refeed meal...another .4 the next morning (I did eat something off plan the day after the refeed meal out of necessity, so I wasn't really surprised at the additional gain). Four days after my refeed meal, I'm down not just the 1.8 lbs I gained from the refeed, but also the .4 from the day after, *plus an additional 1.2 lbs*. So, since my refeed meal, I am down 3.4 lbs!

I'm soooo glad I did it. I'm at VLCD47 (OMG, I honestly was so proud of myself that I made it ten days in, can't believe I'm at day 47!) I do think that either from this point out, I'll do a refeed meal every two weeks (as Luckychee mentioned she thinks she'll do) OR I may eventually do something like P3 eating on the weekends and P2 during the week.

Hope this helps folks! : )
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OR I may eventually do something like P3 eating on the weekends and P2 during the week.

Hope this helps folks! : )
That is what I do...although I find I have to eat maintenance calories or less on the weekends or I'll gain outrageously. Generally takes till Wednesday or Thursday until I'm into 'fresh' weight when I keep my calories around 1400-1800.

So glad your refeed meal worked!
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Monday will be me 21st treatment day, and was to be my first planned carb day (refeed)... but am moving it up to today (reason for this is in my journal).

Anyhow... will post my results both in my journal and here...
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Best of luck, 2011me! Are you doing the kind where you eat whatever, or more of a high carb/low fat?

I think it works better when you eat a bunch of carbs. My official refeed was everything and anything, but since then I've had a day where I ate only diet microwaved popcorn (like 5 bags) with butter spray and popcorn cheese powder, along with about a six pack of O'Douls (n/a beer) and I've seen a definite increase in weight loss after that kind of day.

I had a "mini day" of the popcorn day mentioned above, but fewer bags and ate crackers and same weight whoosh a few days later. Could be that I've stumbled onto something! Others have said to eat a higher carb refeed and I believe they are right.

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I've done various "refeeds" on hcg and other diet plans. Some were high carb, low fat, low sugar, low protein (which isn't as much fun as it seems), and some were like loading days...high sugar, high fat, high carbs, and moderate protein (a lot more fun!). Personally, I always gain the same amount of weight (5-7 lb) despite which type of refeed day I do, and I always lose the refeed weight within 3 days, and then my weight loss picks up after that. So, for me, both "types" of refeeds work equally well.

With the high fat+carb+sugar+protein refeeds I always feel more satisfied with getting right back on plan, whereas the high carb, low everything else refeeds leave me unhappy and feeling unsatisfied. If I'm going to go off plan, I'd rather eat as much of the foods I enjoy as possible.
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Best of luck, 2011me! Are you doing the kind where you eat whatever, or more of a high carb/low fat?
Thanks CherylB. Today was mostly carbs. Buffet lunch with breaded fish, seafood newburgh and butter bread.. a little steak and water to drink. Ended with sugar free desserts; chocolate cookie, blueberry pie and vanilla/strawberry swirl cake. The desserts were soooo sweet, hard to believe they were sugar free... was said they were... hope so!

Dinner was milk and grilled cheese.

Will follow up in the next few days... daily updates will be in my log.

Oops... forgot to add that I had a few bites of rotisserie chicken too... was way tooo salty, but good.

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If I were going to refeed it would have to start with starbucks I love me a bagel with creme cheese and a mocha. I won't buy bagels because I don't want them sitting around afterward LOL I feel i could use a refeed now but I am too close to P3. going to start P3 by the end of the week.
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