My HCG Journal. Looks like I need to start one! - Page 18

RedsSkinnyJeans · 06-20-2011, 02:55 AM

Good morning Cheryl :-)

Wishing you all the best on P2!

dazygyrl · 06-20-2011, 05:45 AM

welcome back to p2, cheryl!

now i'm not sure i want to do my plan of p2 for 30 days (which would end tomorrow for dosing), p3 for 15, back to p3 for 30. i'm sooooo indecisive....lol! so for the time being...i'm staying in p2.

CherylB · 06-20-2011, 10:24 AM

Good afternoon, ladies! Thanks for all the well-wishes for my next round!

Dessa, I use Vox brand pellets. I have heard that there are only two makers of pellets but people put their own lables on them and sell them at many different sites. I've been told there are blue bottles and brown bottles. Vox is the blue bottle variety.

I got all my errands done this morning, so that's why I'm only just now writing and getting caught up on LCF. I had my lab work drawn (had the order since the first week of R1! Held off on having the labs done because of what my cholesterol would have looked like while on Hcg.) Then I stopped at a couple stores and bought some stuff for my loading days.

I'm eating my first thing of the day (12:30 pm) and it's crunchy Cheetos! I'm having a hard time keeping my hand out of the bag so that I can type!

It ain't easy being cheesy.

I've got O'Douls that I just chilled in the freezer, and I bought some of my favorite Kaiser Rolls to made a couple of really good sandwiches with. (I had a lot of plans for eating out, but money is tight and I have so much stuff left over from my P3 shopping spree.)

I am tempted now to do 3 loading days, simply because it's going to take that long to eat what I bought today. I didn't buy a lot, either. I got 4 cases of diet soda, 2 bottles of n/a wine, a six pack of O'Douls in the bottle, a bag of crunchy cheetos, lays chips and white cheddar popcorn, two Cadbury chocolate bars with almonds, and 4 Kaiser rolls. I will be making tuna salad sandwiches, deli meat and cheese sandwiches and maybe grill a hot dog or two and have those on a Kaiser, too.

I will order pizza at least once. Later today I'll order a medium x-cheese for delivery. Then tomorrow we'll have to see what happens when out with sisters and moving boxes into Robin's new place.

In case y'all are wondering, I love hcg! To be able to lose weight and then eat LC for a few weeks and then have a couple days of *PARTY* before kicking off the next round, what could be better? This beats the Hell out of Atkins!

So, I am going to be enjoying the next few days and then I will be jumping into day one of VLCD, R2! And I will be just as excited about that as I am about today, because it's all a part of the plan (think Dan Fogelberg.)

Dazy, do what you want! That's what's so great about hcg. You can rogue it all the way to goal. If it's working, just keep on workin' it!

Oh, yeah. I re-did my measurements this morning, and the fat calliper thingy (hip area.) I pretty much stayed the same over the 15 days on P3, but my forearm is down 1/4", my waist is down 1/4", my abdomen is down 1/2" and my calves are UP 1/4".

Fat percentage is hard to get exactly right because where you measure is so variable. But I'm about 28.6% fat now, down from 30.1 just 15 days ago! So, things really do keep changing somewhat in P3.

jabbok · 06-20-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CherylB

Good afternoon, ladies! Thanks for all the well-wishes for my next round!

Dessa, I use Vox brand pellets. I have heard that there are only two makers of pellets but people put their own lables on them and sell them at many different sites. I've been told there are blue bottles and brown bottles. Vox is the blue bottle variety.

I got all my errands done this morning, so that's why I'm only just now writing and getting caught up on LCF. I had my lab work drawn (had the order since the first week of R1! Held off on having the labs done because of what my cholesterol would have looked like while on Hcg.) Then I stopped at a couple stores and bought some stuff for my loading days.

I'm eating my first thing of the day (12:30 pm) and it's crunchy Cheetos! I'm having a hard time keeping my hand out of the bag so that I can type!

It ain't easy being cheesy.

I've got O'Douls that I just chilled in the freezer, and I bought some of my favorite Kaiser Rolls to made a couple of really good sandwiches with. (I had a lot of plans for eating out, but money is tight and I have so much stuff left over from my P3 shopping spree.)

I am tempted now to do 3 loading days, simply because it's going to take that long to eat what I bought today. I didn't buy a lot, either. I got 4 cases of diet soda, 2 bottles of n/a wine, a six pack of O'Douls in the bottle, a bag of crunchy cheetos, lays chips and white cheddar popcorn, two Cadbury chocolate bars with almonds, and 4 Kaiser rolls. I will be making tuna salad sandwiches, deli meat and cheese sandwiches and maybe grill a hot dog or two and have those on a Kaiser, too.

I will order pizza at least once. Later today I'll order a medium x-cheese for delivery. Then tomorrow we'll have to see what happens when out with sisters and moving boxes into Robin's new place.

In case y'all are wondering, I love hcg! To be able to lose weight and then eat LC for a few weeks and then have a couple days of *PARTY* before kicking off the next round, what could be better? This beats the Hell out of Atkins!

So, I am going to be enjoying the next few days and then I will be jumping into day one of VLCD, R2! And I will be just as excited about that as I am about today, because it's all a part of the plan (think Dan Fogelberg.)

Dazy, do what you want! That's what's so great about hcg. You can rogue it all the way to goal. If it's working, just keep on workin' it!

Oh, yeah. I re-did my measurements this morning, and the fat calliper thingy (hip area.) I pretty much stayed the same over the 15 days on P3, but my forearm is down 1/4", my waist is down 1/4", my abdomen is down 1/2" and my calves are UP 1/4".

Fat percentage is hard to get exactly right because where you measure is so variable. But I'm about 28.6% fat now, down from 30.1 just 15 days ago! So, things really do keep changing somewhat in P3.

I love your loading day foods, have a great party.

CherylB · 06-20-2011, 01:48 PM

Yep! Me too. I eat whatever I feel like, obviously. I just don't gorge because I hate to feel over-fed. I used to love that feeling, but I think hcg has cured me of that.

CherylB · 06-20-2011, 06:22 PM

This is rough.

C'Marie · 06-20-2011, 08:12 PM

Hi Cheryl!!!

Hope your P2 is all you want it to be, and MORE!

Cruzcrzy · 06-21-2011, 03:50 AM

Hi Cheryl,

you are SO funny

. Have a good moving day with your sisters.
I had a loss yesterday, but, still the same today. I had popcorn at 8:15pm so that may have done it. I am still thinking about moving onto P3. I want the variety of food(and fruits!!), but, have worked so hard to get through P2 I am reluctant to give it up.

RedsSkinnyJeans · 06-21-2011, 04:42 AM

Cheryl,
Loved that picture. LOL Have a great day :-)

CherylB · 06-21-2011, 11:51 AM

Quickie, cause I'm tired. I helped sister move some things into her apartment today, as you all know. It was hot and no breeze whatsoever. I was miserable and hot with all the effort and being out in the direct sun so many times. It was not an efficient affair at all. Some trips upstairs, one or more of my sisters had next to nothing in their arms.

The hand truck was locked into my sister Donna's truck bed because, for the first time ever, it decided to not open. We finally got it open when we arrived at her new apartment.

I'm glad it's over! But there is much more for them to do. This is just the beginning. The inside of the apartment is nice. It's very quiet. I really hope they like it there. They signed a 2 year lease.

We stopped for pizza afterward and it was just okay. It didn't hit the spot the way it often does. But it was nice to be able to eat it! Good day to load.

Then, I got a call from my Dr's office. They got my lab results back already and they are concerned about my Cholesterol level and they say that my Thyroid is hyperactive right now. "Are you taking 2 Cytomels per day?" Also my liver function test is elevated. Frankly, I feel great and I'd prefer that nobody try and "fix me" right now.

I used to take a Statin until I read on LCF that it is a bad idea for women to take them. Ineffective and possibly harmful. But now he's going to want me to take it again. (In fact he'll probably think I'm still taking it and want to double the dose.) I will look into natural ways to bring it down. (It's in the 240's.) I am also going to compare what the levels were with the last set that was done. I want to see what the trend is. I hate not seeing the labs for myself.

I didn't weigh today because of being in the midst of my loading days. Tomorrow I'll weigh, or the next day (if I choose to do 3 days this time. I'm considering it.)

That's about all the news right now. I need to kick back and chill right now! Storm's brewing, so that will cool us down a little bit.

martiangurll · 06-21-2011, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shelbyla

If you guys would hang out on the general P3/P4 thread you'd hear all about this stuff!

Peggy Torister has had a LOT of luck with this (as has Raven) getting rid of multiple allergies. There is a lady on the regular P2 thread too who has had MANY food allergies for years and seems to also be having luck with it (1moretry? 1lasttry? something like that). I am not sure about the science behind it (if there is any

). For me, I was having some issues gaining weight when I had HWC, even if it was just a couple of tablespoons. I also occasionally had some digestive upset. I did the laser thing and haven't had issues since then. I figured, I have a cat so I have a laser, it takes 2 minutes and avoiding the food for a little while. Why NOT give it a try? Maybe it's mental, maybe it's junk science, but I think for the minimal investment of time, it will be worth it if I can eat almond butter or drink wine or maybe even eat SUGAR without a 2-3 pound gain. It doesn't always work or doesn't always work the first time but it might be worth it if you really like the CO.

Okay, I know I am totally butting in here, but does the laser thing work by activating your root chakra? It seems so weird but I believe in that stuff...

shelbyla · 06-21-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CherylB

Then, I got a call from my Dr's office. They got my lab results back already and they are concerned about my Cholesterol level and they say that my Thyroid is hyperactive right now. "Are you taking 2 Cytomels per day?" Also my liver function test is elevated. Frankly, I feel great and I'd prefer that nobody try and "fix me" right now.

I used to take a Statin until I read on LCF that it is a bad idea for women to take them. Ineffective and possibly harmful. But now he's going to want me to take it again. (In fact he'll probably think I'm still taking it and want to double the dose.) I will look into natural ways to bring it down. (It's in the 240's.) I am also going to compare what the levels were with the last set that was done. I want to see what the trend is. I hate not seeing the labs for myself.

They probably think your thyroid is "hyper" because of a low TSH--which any fool (doctor) should know is where your TSH is SUPPOSED to be if you are on T3 therapy. YOU are in charge Cheryl! Let 'em have it!!!! Btw, I just read on one of the older threads that taking hcg can elevate liver enzymes during or right after the course of treatment because of the amount of fat we are releasing. Something about the liver working extra hard to try and process it all. FWIW anyway...

CherylB · 06-21-2011, 01:14 PM

Thanks, Shelby. I will make sure I bring all this stuff up when they call back. I really want to see what the old labs were, compared to the new labs. I hate them just saying something is high or something is low. I'm a nurse. Show me the dang labs, please! I like to see them with my own eyes.

I will get the actual numbers of the labs they are talking about so I can look into this stuff more closely. The liver enzyme stuff makes perfect sense. And the Dr knows I've been doing Hcg and usually follow a LC plan. He said that I should wait until I was off the Hcg (P2) to get the labs done. He said my cholesterol would be sky-high if I had them drawn in P2, but he said it was the "large, fluffy" kind of cholesterol that would be floating around in my blood, and that it wasn't the harmful type.

How do you know if it's light and fluffy or heavy and sticky? I will see what I can find out the next time they call back. I am not going to just follow new orders for meds, though. I feel great and want to stay this way!

CherylB · 06-21-2011, 01:39 PM

Okay. Just talked to the Dr's office person. Dr actually wants to see me on Friday because of the labs. Guess he wants to see if I'm turning yellow or something. I got the lady to read me the lab values so I can look into things before the appointment.

TSH- > 0.01 (that's what she said, but that sounds odd.)
FT4- 1.4 (in range; 0.8-1.8)
T3 Total- 249 (76-181)
(They did not draw a FT3.)

Cholesterol Total- 241
LDL- 170 (< 130) [I wrote down > 130, but I think I wrote the wrong symbol.]
(Didn't tell me HDL)

Liver
AST- 70 (10-35)
ALT- 157 (6-40)
ALK Phos- 130 (33-115)

So now I'm going to go do a little research.

Cruzcrzy · 06-21-2011, 01:50 PM

Cheryl,

I have my labs out, and your cholesterol does seem pretty high. Of course, you need the ranges to know for sure, but, according to my ranges it is high. I've read the same thing you have about statin only.

porkfatrules · 06-21-2011, 02:10 PM

Cheryl -- I can't comment on the thyroid or liver part, but on the cholesterol I do know that there's a huge difference between *measured* values and the regular way they do it -- which is based on some measurements and a formula. Basically, the formula takes the total cholesterol, "good" (HDL) cholesterol and your triglycerides to calculate an estimated "bad" (LDL) cholesterol -- so people with low triglycerides will have what looks like an elevated bad cholesterol level. (TC = LDL + HDL + Triglycerides/5 -- where TC, HDL, and Triglycerides are measured, LDL is calculated).

I always ask for a measured LDL test now (drives my doctor nuts) -- and even better is the VAP test which measures all components and gives you particle size. As you mentioned earlier, large fluffy cholesterol particles can be high, but they're pretty harmless -- it's the small dense ones that are truly bad for you.

CherylB · 06-21-2011, 02:21 PM

I am going to ask him to order more lab tests. (Better ones.) Though the fact that I'm in the midst of a new hcg round is a problem. I wish I had done the blood work earlier in P3. I was eating a very fatty diet full of dairy at the very end of P3. In fact, the day before the labs I had more than I usually did. I also had taken my first dose of hcg pellets a few hours before the draw, although I was fasting.

I can only share this stuff with you, because I only have one member of my family that I confided in about Hcg, and if I tell her these labs, she's going to go nuts. I will have to just sit on this and see if I can get it worked out by myself.

OH! And since I'll be weighing-in at the Dr's this Friday, I'm definitely on R2P2VLCD1 tomorrow. I want to be as slim as I can be for that occasion. I wasn't supposed to see him for a month, so there goes my big entrance! That will give me 3 days to hopefully get into the 160's. Now THAT would be cool.

CherylB · 06-21-2011, 07:12 PM

I have been doing a lot of thinking since the talk with the Dr's office lady today. I know that all pills we take are metabolized through our livers and I take a bunch of meds. Some prescription, many over-the-counter. So, I'm cutting back on things like Motrin and I'm going to cut out the Mag O7's I've been taking for a colon cleanse.

I do have digestive issues, so I'm going to take fiber daily for a while to see if I can get away from all the other things. I have been taking pills without really giving it much thought, but now I'm going to be more cautious what I put in my body. If I'm not in pain, why take Motrin on a regular basis? My nightime pill dispenser just got a lot roomier!

I'm also going to make sure I get my daily dose of raw ACV. Between that and the fiber capsules and the increase in water consumption, I think I'll get my cholesterol down a bit and give my liver a rest.

shelbyla · 06-21-2011, 08:12 PM

Cheryl, just fyi, milk thistle is great for both improving cholesterol AND cleansing the liver. If you're giving up one supplement, why not try another?

RedsSkinnyJeans · 06-22-2011, 02:59 AM

I've done milk thistle - I've also read it's really good for the liver.

Good morning Cheryl. Thunder storm alerts for later today!!

Glad to see you're going after good health. Me too! Nobody can fight for us, or think for us like we ourselves. And we need INFORMATION! I am often surprised by people with a health condition who don't research, learn about it, and learn what THEY can do. It's so important to go to the doctor as someone who educates herself and is proactive! I respect that you're doing that.

Have a good day my friend :-)

paulabob · 06-22-2011, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RedL.I.

I've done milk thistle - I've also read it's really good for the liver.

I've taken it before too. It is also...high fiber too - at least the whole herb itself is. And an herb that's got a lot of research behind it for people trying to bring down their liver numbers.

Good luck with those labs Cheryl!

CherylB · 06-22-2011, 08:34 AM

Thanks, ladies. I'll check into that Milk Thistle. I know, right? I can't seem to get the hell away from pills in one way or another, even when I try!

First day of VLCD for round 2. I'm up 3.6 lbs from my load, but I'm dealing with a load of another kind. I took MOM this morning to rid myself of that problem. Starting clean after that.

Stormy day from the morning onward. Looks like Cisco will lose a lb or two today, as well!

PS: Milk Thistle interacts with meds that are metabolized in the liver and may inhibit their effectiveness. I take at least one of the meds they list, so Milk Thistle is out for me. I'm not surprised, since something as benign as Saint John's Wort can't be taken when taking Lexapro. (So can't take that, either.)

obraxton · 06-22-2011, 10:00 AM

That load weight will be outta here

so your last weight before loading was 170! wow!

Cruzcrzy · 06-22-2011, 10:11 AM

Cheryl - you will have that load weight off in no time.

I decided today I am starting P3. I could go longer, but, I am ready for more variety. Today will be my last hcg dose.

CherylB · 06-22-2011, 10:16 AM

No, I wish. The 170.0 was the lowest I got down to in P3 before I started to level-off near my official last dose weight of 172.8. I was 173.6 pre-load and now I'm 177.2 post load.

CherylB · 06-22-2011, 10:17 AM

Good luck, Marie! P3 is nice in a way. Enjoy being there! Hope all goes well for you in stabilization-land.

Cruzcrzy · 06-22-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CherylB

Good luck, Marie! P3 is nice in a way. Enjoy being there! Hope all goes well for you in stabilization-land.

Thanks, Cheryl. I'm really looking forward to it. I am going to be careful about introducing new foods carefully so I can more easily trouble shoot the problem if one occurs.

CherylB · 06-22-2011, 10:44 AM

There ya go! That's the way to do it, sister. I also had trouble eating lots of calories in the beginning (actually, all the way through P3.) I increased the calories over the first four or five days. It was hard, after eating so little and being so satisfied!

TerriMM · 06-22-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CherylB

No, I wish. The 170.0 was the lowest I got down to in P3 before I started to level-off near my official last dose weight of 172.8. I was 173.6 pre-load and now I'm 177.2 post load.

Don't you worry for a second girl! You've done just exactly what you're supposed to do and are text book perfect

I can't wait to see how well you do next round. You're truly and inspiration and a whole bunch of fun too!

CherylB · 06-22-2011, 05:11 PM

Awww! Thanks so much, Terri. I hope I can rock it this time, because the first round was so long. When I think of how many lbs I lost over how many days, it ain't so impressive! But this time, I got 36 days total and I have to squeeze them for all they're worth.

I was just cleaning an old sewing machine that I have, to give it to my sister for her mother-in-law. I found lots of stuff that I didn't expect to find (mice had made a comfy little home inside of it, when I had it outside on the screened-in porch a few years ago). Anyway, got it all clean and stuff but it needs some kind of tune-up or something, and inside the machine, there is a broken plastic do-hickey that has teeth in it, to drive something to rotate around.

Well, they don't want it now, but I have a clean Sears Kenmore sewing machine in a nice, sturdy cabinet now! I think I'll keep it and see if it can be oiled up or something someday and maybe get some use out of it. Even the little light at the needle worked!

It wasn't a total loss. I know how to take a sewing machine apart now and the wing nuts in the table legs are nice and tight now! It will make a nice end table, if nothing else.

I hope everyone has an excellent night, and I hope that those of you who are praying for rain can get what you need. Why is it raining so much in places that don't need anymore, and no rain in places that are so parched? Things are so completely screwy these days. No balance whatsoever! Lord, have mercy on us, please!

06-20-2011, 10:24 AM	#513
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	Good afternoon, ladies! Thanks for all the well-wishes for my next round! Dessa, I use Vox brand pellets. I have heard that there are only two makers of pellets but people put their own lables on them and sell them at many different sites. I've been told there are blue bottles and brown bottles. Vox is the blue bottle variety. I got all my errands done this morning, so that's why I'm only just now writing and getting caught up on LCF. I had my lab work drawn (had the order since the first week of R1! Held off on having the labs done because of what my cholesterol would have looked like while on Hcg.) Then I stopped at a couple stores and bought some stuff for my loading days. I'm eating my first thing of the day (12:30 pm) and it's crunchy Cheetos! I'm having a hard time keeping my hand out of the bag so that I can type! It ain't easy being cheesy. I've got O'Douls that I just chilled in the freezer, and I bought some of my favorite Kaiser Rolls to made a couple of really good sandwiches with. (I had a lot of plans for eating out, but money is tight and I have so much stuff left over from my P3 shopping spree.) I am tempted now to do 3 loading days, simply because it's going to take that long to eat what I bought today. I didn't buy a lot, either. I got 4 cases of diet soda, 2 bottles of n/a wine, a six pack of O'Douls in the bottle, a bag of crunchy cheetos, lays chips and white cheddar popcorn, two Cadbury chocolate bars with almonds, and 4 Kaiser rolls. I will be making tuna salad sandwiches, deli meat and cheese sandwiches and maybe grill a hot dog or two and have those on a Kaiser, too. I will order pizza at least once. Later today I'll order a medium x-cheese for delivery. Then tomorrow we'll have to see what happens when out with sisters and moving boxes into Robin's new place. In case y'all are wondering, I love hcg! To be able to lose weight and then eat LC for a few weeks and then have a couple days of PARTY before kicking off the next round, what could be better? This beats the Hell out of Atkins! So, I am going to be enjoying the next few days and then I will be jumping into day one of VLCD, R2! And I will be just as excited about that as I am about today, because it's all a part of the plan (think Dan Fogelberg.) Dazy, do what you want! That's what's so great about hcg. You can rogue it all the way to goal. If it's working, just keep on workin' it! Oh, yeah. I re-did my measurements this morning, and the fat calliper thingy (hip area.) I pretty much stayed the same over the 15 days on P3, but my forearm is down 1/4", my waist is down 1/4", my abdomen is down 1/2" and my calves are UP 1/4". Fat percentage is hard to get exactly right because where you measure is so variable. But I'm about 28.6% fat now, down from 30.1 just 15 days ago! So, things really do keep changing somewhat in P3. __________________ What we sow today, we will certainly reap tomorrow. Spend your time wisely. Make it count. There are no do-overs in life. And the clock is ticking.

06-21-2011, 03:50 AM	#518
Cruzcrzy Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 9,444 Gallery: Cruzcrzy Stats: 183/130/128-131(5'5, FABULOUS 50!!)	Hi Cheryl, you are SO funny. Have a good moving day with your sisters. I had a loss yesterday, but, still the same today. I had popcorn at 8:15pm so that may have done it. I am still thinking about moving onto P3. I want the variety of food(and fruits!!), but, have worked so hard to get through P2 I am reluctant to give it up.

06-21-2011, 02:21 PM	#527
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	I am going to ask him to order more lab tests. (Better ones.) Though the fact that I'm in the midst of a new hcg round is a problem. I wish I had done the blood work earlier in P3. I was eating a very fatty diet full of dairy at the very end of P3. In fact, the day before the labs I had more than I usually did. I also had taken my first dose of hcg pellets a few hours before the draw, although I was fasting. I can only share this stuff with you, because I only have one member of my family that I confided in about Hcg, and if I tell her these labs, she's going to go nuts. I will have to just sit on this and see if I can get it worked out by myself. OH! And since I'll be weighing-in at the Dr's this Friday, I'm definitely on R2P2VLCD1 tomorrow. I want to be as slim as I can be for that occasion. I wasn't supposed to see him for a month, so there goes my big entrance! That will give me 3 days to hopefully get into the 160's. Now THAT would be cool. Last edited by CherylB; 06-21-2011 at 02:26 PM..

06-22-2011, 08:34 AM	#532
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	Thanks, ladies. I'll check into that Milk Thistle. I know, right? I can't seem to get the hell away from pills in one way or another, even when I try! First day of VLCD for round 2. I'm up 3.6 lbs from my load, but I'm dealing with a load of another kind. I took MOM this morning to rid myself of that problem. Starting clean after that. Stormy day from the morning onward. Looks like Cisco will lose a lb or two today, as well! PS: Milk Thistle interacts with meds that are metabolized in the liver and may inhibit their effectiveness. I take at least one of the meds they list, so Milk Thistle is out for me. I'm not surprised, since something as benign as Saint John's Wort can't be taken when taking Lexapro. (So can't take that, either.) Last edited by CherylB; 06-22-2011 at 08:44 AM..

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06-20-2011, 02:55 AM	#511
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	Good morning Cheryl :-) Wishing you all the best on P2!

06-20-2011, 05:45 AM	#512
dazygyrl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,538 Gallery: dazygyrl	welcome back to p2, cheryl! now i'm not sure i want to do my plan of p2 for 30 days (which would end tomorrow for dosing), p3 for 15, back to p3 for 30. i'm sooooo indecisive....lol! so for the time being...i'm staying in p2.

06-20-2011, 01:48 PM	#515
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	Yep! Me too. I eat whatever I feel like, obviously. I just don't gorge because I hate to feel over-fed. I used to love that feeling, but I think hcg has cured me of that.

06-20-2011, 06:22 PM	#516
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	This is rough.

06-20-2011, 08:12 PM	#517
C'Marie Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,047 Gallery: C'Marie Stats: 270/down 110-ish/ goal 147 WOE: hCG Rx shots/JUDDD maintain Start Date: 1/4/2010 Now R9 P2	Hi Cheryl!!! Hope your P2 is all you want it to be, and MORE!

06-21-2011, 04:42 AM	#519
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	Cheryl, Loved that picture. LOL Have a great day :-)

06-21-2011, 11:51 AM	#520
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	Quickie, cause I'm tired. I helped sister move some things into her apartment today, as you all know. It was hot and no breeze whatsoever. I was miserable and hot with all the effort and being out in the direct sun so many times. It was not an efficient affair at all. Some trips upstairs, one or more of my sisters had next to nothing in their arms. The hand truck was locked into my sister Donna's truck bed because, for the first time ever, it decided to not open. We finally got it open when we arrived at her new apartment. I'm glad it's over! But there is much more for them to do. This is just the beginning. The inside of the apartment is nice. It's very quiet. I really hope they like it there. They signed a 2 year lease. We stopped for pizza afterward and it was just okay. It didn't hit the spot the way it often does. But it was nice to be able to eat it! Good day to load. Then, I got a call from my Dr's office. They got my lab results back already and they are concerned about my Cholesterol level and they say that my Thyroid is hyperactive right now. "Are you taking 2 Cytomels per day?" Also my liver function test is elevated. Frankly, I feel great and I'd prefer that nobody try and "fix me" right now. I used to take a Statin until I read on LCF that it is a bad idea for women to take them. Ineffective and possibly harmful. But now he's going to want me to take it again. (In fact he'll probably think I'm still taking it and want to double the dose.) I will look into natural ways to bring it down. (It's in the 240's.) I am also going to compare what the levels were with the last set that was done. I want to see what the trend is. I hate not seeing the labs for myself. I didn't weigh today because of being in the midst of my loading days. Tomorrow I'll weigh, or the next day (if I choose to do 3 days this time. I'm considering it.) That's about all the news right now. I need to kick back and chill right now! Storm's brewing, so that will cool us down a little bit.

06-21-2011, 01:14 PM	#523
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	Thanks, Shelby. I will make sure I bring all this stuff up when they call back. I really want to see what the old labs were, compared to the new labs. I hate them just saying something is high or something is low. I'm a nurse. Show me the dang labs, please! I like to see them with my own eyes. I will get the actual numbers of the labs they are talking about so I can look into this stuff more closely. The liver enzyme stuff makes perfect sense. And the Dr knows I've been doing Hcg and usually follow a LC plan. He said that I should wait until I was off the Hcg (P2) to get the labs done. He said my cholesterol would be sky-high if I had them drawn in P2, but he said it was the "large, fluffy" kind of cholesterol that would be floating around in my blood, and that it wasn't the harmful type. How do you know if it's light and fluffy or heavy and sticky? I will see what I can find out the next time they call back. I am not going to just follow new orders for meds, though. I feel great and want to stay this way!

06-21-2011, 01:39 PM	#524
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	Okay. Just talked to the Dr's office person. Dr actually wants to see me on Friday because of the labs. Guess he wants to see if I'm turning yellow or something. I got the lady to read me the lab values so I can look into things before the appointment. TSH- > 0.01 (that's what she said, but that sounds odd.) FT4- 1.4 (in range; 0.8-1.8) T3 Total- 249 (76-181) (They did not draw a FT3.) Cholesterol Total- 241 LDL- 170 (< 130) [I wrote down > 130, but I think I wrote the wrong symbol.] (Didn't tell me HDL) Liver AST- 70 (10-35) ALT- 157 (6-40) ALK Phos- 130 (33-115) So now I'm going to go do a little research.

06-21-2011, 01:50 PM	#525
Cruzcrzy Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 9,444 Gallery: Cruzcrzy Stats: 183/130/128-131(5'5, FABULOUS 50!!)	Cheryl, I have my labs out, and your cholesterol does seem pretty high. Of course, you need the ranges to know for sure, but, according to my ranges it is high. I've read the same thing you have about statin only.

06-21-2011, 02:10 PM	#526
porkfatrules Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,506 Gallery: porkfatrules Stats: 223/183.5/110 WOE: HCG R3 Start Date: Re-re-re-start 5/8/11	Cheryl -- I can't comment on the thyroid or liver part, but on the cholesterol I do know that there's a huge difference between measured values and the regular way they do it -- which is based on some measurements and a formula. Basically, the formula takes the total cholesterol, "good" (HDL) cholesterol and your triglycerides to calculate an estimated "bad" (LDL) cholesterol -- so people with low triglycerides will have what looks like an elevated bad cholesterol level. (TC = LDL + HDL + Triglycerides/5 -- where TC, HDL, and Triglycerides are measured, LDL is calculated). I always ask for a measured LDL test now (drives my doctor nuts) -- and even better is the VAP test which measures all components and gives you particle size. As you mentioned earlier, large fluffy cholesterol particles can be high, but they're pretty harmless -- it's the small dense ones that are truly bad for you.

06-21-2011, 07:12 PM	#528
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	I have been doing a lot of thinking since the talk with the Dr's office lady today. I know that all pills we take are metabolized through our livers and I take a bunch of meds. Some prescription, many over-the-counter. So, I'm cutting back on things like Motrin and I'm going to cut out the Mag O7's I've been taking for a colon cleanse. I do have digestive issues, so I'm going to take fiber daily for a while to see if I can get away from all the other things. I have been taking pills without really giving it much thought, but now I'm going to be more cautious what I put in my body. If I'm not in pain, why take Motrin on a regular basis? My nightime pill dispenser just got a lot roomier! I'm also going to make sure I get my daily dose of raw ACV. Between that and the fiber capsules and the increase in water consumption, I think I'll get my cholesterol down a bit and give my liver a rest.

06-21-2011, 08:12 PM	#529
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	Cheryl, just fyi, milk thistle is great for both improving cholesterol AND cleansing the liver. If you're giving up one supplement, why not try another?

06-22-2011, 02:59 AM	#530
RedsSkinnyJeans Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,001 Gallery: RedsSkinnyJeans Stats: 170/144/140 Start Date: 4/1/11	I've done milk thistle - I've also read it's really good for the liver. Good morning Cheryl. Thunder storm alerts for later today!! Glad to see you're going after good health. Me too! Nobody can fight for us, or think for us like we ourselves. And we need INFORMATION! I am often surprised by people with a health condition who don't research, learn about it, and learn what THEY can do. It's so important to go to the doctor as someone who educates herself and is proactive! I respect that you're doing that. Have a good day my friend :-)

06-22-2011, 10:00 AM	#533
obraxton Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South Carolina gal livin in South Jersey Posts: 3,485 Gallery: obraxton Stats: 260/189/142 WOE: bariatric sleeve/high protein-low sugar Start Date: WLS/Sleeve/5-9-11	That load weight will be outta here so your last weight before loading was 170! wow!

06-22-2011, 10:11 AM	#534
Cruzcrzy Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 9,444 Gallery: Cruzcrzy Stats: 183/130/128-131(5'5, FABULOUS 50!!)	Cheryl - you will have that load weight off in no time. I decided today I am starting P3. I could go longer, but, I am ready for more variety. Today will be my last hcg dose.

06-22-2011, 10:16 AM	#535
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	No, I wish. The 170.0 was the lowest I got down to in P3 before I started to level-off near my official last dose weight of 172.8. I was 173.6 pre-load and now I'm 177.2 post load.

06-22-2011, 10:17 AM	#536
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	Good luck, Marie! P3 is nice in a way. Enjoy being there! Hope all goes well for you in stabilization-land.

06-22-2011, 10:44 AM	#538
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	There ya go! That's the way to do it, sister. I also had trouble eating lots of calories in the beginning (actually, all the way through P3.) I increased the calories over the first four or five days. It was hard, after eating so little and being so satisfied!

06-22-2011, 05:11 PM	#540
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,080 Gallery: CherylB	Awww! Thanks so much, Terri. I hope I can rock it this time, because the first round was so long. When I think of how many lbs I lost over how many days, it ain't so impressive! But this time, I got 36 days total and I have to squeeze them for all they're worth. I was just cleaning an old sewing machine that I have, to give it to my sister for her mother-in-law. I found lots of stuff that I didn't expect to find (mice had made a comfy little home inside of it, when I had it outside on the screened-in porch a few years ago). Anyway, got it all clean and stuff but it needs some kind of tune-up or something, and inside the machine, there is a broken plastic do-hickey that has teeth in it, to drive something to rotate around. Well, they don't want it now, but I have a clean Sears Kenmore sewing machine in a nice, sturdy cabinet now! I think I'll keep it and see if it can be oiled up or something someday and maybe get some use out of it. Even the little light at the needle worked! It wasn't a total loss. I know how to take a sewing machine apart now and the wing nuts in the table legs are nice and tight now! It will make a nice end table, if nothing else. I hope everyone has an excellent night, and I hope that those of you who are praying for rain can get what you need. Why is it raining so much in places that don't need anymore, and no rain in places that are so parched? Things are so completely screwy these days. No balance whatsoever! Lord, have mercy on us, please!