homeopathic hcg being pulled off the market?

[mermaid]

There are some major sellers that have pulled off their homeopathic hcg and are now selling products that state they contain none of the hormone. I had a hard time finding it on a google search today. Netrition seems to be selling it still.

This is a heads up to stock up or you may not be able to find it soon. I'm really bummed.

[torim]

This is alarming. Has the FDA banned it? I'm in little ol New Zealand and HCG is hard to get here anyway. I've just finished a round and lost 20 pounds and stable on P3. This is the only diet that has worked for me and I've lost in my legs which has never ever happened. If the FDA ban it in the US it won't be long before its banned here. I will cry buckets of tears if that happens.

Just ordered another bottle - even tho' I shouldn't on the credit card just in case.

[minimonkey]

It is so unclear what is going on with this -- some companies state they will still be selling it directly, but apparently others are pulling it altogether?... stock up now!

[mermaid]

Originally Posted by torim

This is alarming. Has the FDA banned it? I'm in little ol New Zealand and HCG is hard to get here anyway. I've just finished a round and lost 20 pounds and stable on P3. This is the only diet that has worked for me and I've lost in my legs which has never ever happened. If the FDA ban it in the US it won't be long before its banned here. I will cry buckets of tears if that happens.

Just ordered another bottle - even tho' I shouldn't on the credit card just in case.

Send me a plane ticket and I'll hand-deliver as much HHCG as you want, deal?

Seriously, all of the homeopathic stuff that I saw was being produced here. So if it's pulled here, it probably won't be available anywhere.

That being said, I think this is totally just a bully tactic by the FDA, and there may be companies who have the guts to stand up against them. I really hope so.

[mermaid]

Don't despair if you run out and can't get more. Here is an article on making your own homeopathic remedy! If you are new to the concept, you may find the whole concept baffling, but if you have tried HHCG and want to keep using it, then the directions are pretty clear how to make it. Not only that, but it can potentially make a very large amount cheaply that you can share with your friends.

How To Make Your Own Remedy | HPATHY.COM

[ravenrose]

please don't flame me for this, but the whole POINT of homeopathy is that it's so diluted it doesn't really contain any active ingredients anyway. there is some idea of the water molecules learning from the substance they once were with? in any case, if they are just saying it doesn't contain anything active, that's a creative way around the new rulings. I'm sure it's the same stuff! good luck with it.

read mermaid's link... this is totally valid within the world of homeopathy. this is what the companies do to make your drops!

see how the way they tell you at the end that to increase the potency even more is to dilute it 1000 times with water? this is the basic concept of homeopathy. that the more diluted something is the more effective it is. so just take your drops and do this and you can make a gallon of it that will last basically forever, right?

do you understand?

[minimonkey]

I will take a look at that link -- I am willing to give a try to making more with some of my current drops... I do have a bit of a backstock, so am ok for now -- but I really hate the FDA for doing this.

[minimonkey]

I think maybe there is a difference between the ones that contain minute amounts of hcg, and the ones that don't -- you at least need a starter dose of the substance, right?

In any case, I will try doing that technique for the drops I have remaining from my first round and see how that goes!

[ravenrose]

Originally Posted by minimonkey

I think maybe there is a difference between the ones that contain minute amounts of hcg, and the ones that don't -- you at least need a starter dose of the substance, right?

In any case, I will try doing that technique for the drops I have remaining from my first round and see how that goes!

you would think, but this is the thing with homeopathy that makes most people think it's fraudulent. most of the homeopathic "medicines" you buy have already been diluted so much there is no detectable amount of the original stuff in it. that is what I meant about homeopathic theory saying that the water has "learned" from the original substance even though there is none left in there...

[mermaid]

Some people do dilute to make more, but I am not a fan of doing it this way unless you absolutely have to. It could lead to contamination and lessening of potency.

Now, if you are trying to create a higher potency, and do the mixing in just the right way, being sure to succuss properly, then that does work. Just a word of caution, though, higher potencies may have far different reaction in the body than the lower potencies. Normally, without a practitioner's guidance, you don't mess with potencies over 200c.

Since the 3x through 60x potencies are typically what is being used, then I would stick with that. With homeopathy, generally, a substance acts in the OPPOSITE way than if you used the straight substance. So far it seems that lower potencies of HCG act the same way as the straight HCG so it breaks that generalization, but if you were to experiment with higher potencies you might end up with a substance that causes weight gain and hunger rather than helping you lose weight.

That is just speculation though. Nobody really knows because this has not been studied and never will because there is no money in it for pharma.

[kaylem]

Hey all,

I am in Colorado, and I went into my local "national" health/vitamin place, and not only did they have the hcg that they were selling two months ago, but they also had two more brands. So, it hasn't been pulled off the shelves here, yet. (Thank heaven!)

I've also found it several places online...not sure what's happening, but so far, I've had luck! (Maybe everyone should move to Colorado???)

[torim]

Originally Posted by mermaid

Send me a plane ticket and I'll hand-deliver as much HHCG as you want, deal?

Seriously, all of the homeopathic stuff that I saw was being produced here. So if it's pulled here, it probably won't be available anywhere.

That being said, I think this is totally just a bully tactic by the FDA, and there may be companies who have the guts to stand up against them. I really hope so.

Haha - if they did, I'd probably seriously consider it. Plus the weathers beautiful here right now. Sunny sunday been sitting outside reading a book :-)

[torim]

Originally Posted by ravenrose

you would think, but this is the thing with homeopathy that makes most people think it's fraudulent. most of the homeopathic "medicines" you buy have already been diluted so much there is no detectable amount of the original stuff in it. that is what I meant about homeopathic theory saying that the water has "learned" from the original substance even though there is none left in there...

Oh my goodness Homeopathy is just bizarre. But it works! I tried the diet (with larger amts of food) without HCG Homeopathic felt dreadful bf % went up. Then did the right amnt of food with drops and lost weight bf % went down.
So if you have a bottle of HCg that is 60% potency and you start a starter from that - it will have a higher potency? Someone should give this a go and report back. Homeopathy messes with my head

[minimonkey]

I will stick with what I know works, for now -- I love the drops I have been using-- as long as I can still get ithem. Homeopathy baffles me, but I am very convinced it can work (now that it HAS worked for this skeptic!)

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by ravenrose

please don't flame me for this, but the whole POINT of homeopathy is that it's so diluted it doesn't really contain any active ingredients anyway. there is some idea of the water molecules learning from the substance they once were with? in any case, if they are just saying it doesn't contain anything active, that's a creative way around the new rulings. I'm sure it's the same stuff! good luck with it.

read mermaid's link... this is totally valid within the world of homeopathy. this is what the companies do to make your drops!

see how the way they tell you at the end that to increase the potency even more is to dilute it 1000 times with water? this is the basic concept of homeopathy. that the more diluted something is the more effective it is. so just take your drops and do this and you can make a gallon of it that will last basically forever, right?

do you understand?

exactly

i honestly think it is being pulled because it WORKS!

[Gibby]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

exactly

i honestly think it is being pulled because it WORKS!

Amen! The weight loss companies that use hcg injections are angry because we can do this ourselves and not spend a fortune going to them. It works for me. The only thing that has in over 30 years of trying to lose weight. I'm glad I found it!

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by Gibby

Amen! The weight loss companies that use hcg injections are angry because we can do this ourselves and not spend a fortune going to them. It works for me. The only thing that has in over 30 years of trying to lose weight. I'm glad I found it!

and she has had an AMAZING first round!! I AM SOO PROUD OF YOU MARILEE!!:high5 :

[Lost and Found]

Yeah. AND just think of how much money the big pharms would lose if everyone lost their weight. (All of the drugs that people would be able to quit buying if they lost their weight, and weight induced diseases would decrease.)

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Yeah. AND just think of how much money the big pharms would lose if everyone lost their weight. (All of the drugs that people would be able to quit buying if they lost their weight, and weight induced diseases would decrease.)

don't forget they are making lap band surgery easier to get as well

[C'Marie]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

don't forget they are making lap band surgery easier to get as well

which is really sad - how is that safe or effective? basically starving.

[peki31]

My plan is to stock up this week on the pellets. This is the first diet that has worked for me. It seems I am pretty resistant to losing weight since I've never been thin.

Me and DH saved up enough for me to get lapband surgery (insurance said no, because to them I'm not fat enough). That's what I planned to do right about now. Then I heard of HCG and did several months of reasearching. Decided to try it before taking such a huge and expensive step. So here I am 30 days later and more than 20 pounds lighter. I'm losing less then many probably(I honestly haven't been as strict as I should have). But I'm still ecstatic that it's working. So now all the money I planned to spend on lapband will wait and see if I need some tightening and a definitely breast reduction and lift (yay...lol).

I will be so sad to see this off the market. I think that doctors are hating the hHCG because they are losing patients.

[mermaid]

What is sad is that part of this is the fault of the HPUS--Homeopathic Pharmacopia of the United States. The FDA said in the USA Today article that they were basing their decision on the HPUS rejecting HHCG as a tested homeopathic substance. To me that's just plain snotty since they have 2,000 accepted homoeopathic substances and are usually interested in adding more. It was being produced by an approved lab for about three years. When they do a proving, it's a fairly easy process, not at all like a pharmaceutical drug testing, so I think they've just been inflitrated and/or bought off by pharma.

Okay, I admit I'm shooting from the hip on this one. That's because they're not a very transparent organization and it's hard to know their politics. It just smells fishy to me. And I'm mad.

[lovingthrill]

I got an email from my supplier saying all of his auctions were pulled so I have to buy direct from a new site. who knows how long that'll last. I wasn't planning on doing another round but I will probably buy a few more bottles just in case. Though I am curious about these pellets I keep hearing about.

[Gibby]

I bought 6 bottles of drops and they are being delivered any day now. Hopefully that will be enough to help me lose the 150 pounds I need to lose.

[kaylem]

Whew! I was able to order a bottle of Yavonae brand and received confirmation that it has shipped. I ordered it from a large site, but the site said that it was the last bottle. Whether that is TRUE or just a clever marketing scheme, I don't know! But, at least I am set for my next (and last) round. I guess we will know in a few weeks if it is still on the shelves or if it all disappears....scary!

[dawnyama]

See....we were talking about this thing just a year ago. Glad they didn't pull it last year, but dam if they did it this year.

[eastbruce]

I was in Walmart this week and they had a large display set up in the pharmacy aisle selling "HCG" $19.98

Think it was the real thing?

[msgirl]

I would be curious if that in Walmart is the real thing!

That's a great price.....if anyone is game to try it and share your results

[dazygyrl]

Originally Posted by eastbruce

I was in Walmart this week and they had a large display set up in the pharmacy aisle selling "HCG" $19.98

Think it was the real thing?

I saw a display in Walmart too and looked at the box. there was no hcg in it, just a bunch of amino acids. so misleading....

[Jenn_in_NJ]

Subscribing because I have read that the FDA is cracking down and I want to get more information. I was going to do another round, but I want a formula that works. I tried the Nigen and had good results, but I think the Intermountain was better.