Fiber?

Ginja · 02-06-2011, 04:56 PM

Ok this ain't working for me. I do NOT like having to use a cleanse to get Bernice to visit. It's not healthy, and really it means I'll have to keep buying stuffs and I'm on a budget. And I know from experience, the less vegetables I eat, the less chance she comes. Soooooo I know about the magnesium, I've used it and nope nada nein zilch. I used to use Benefiber in my water bottle, does anyone have any input on Fiber on protocol?

This is just freaking uncomfortable

minimonkey · 02-06-2011, 05:16 PM

I think it should be fine to use fiber -- and of course vitamin C can help in that department, too -- sorry you are having these troubles! I do find that -- although I am surprisingly regular on this plan -- there just isn't much to eliminate... we don't eat enough food to create much bulk.

I find the apples help with digestion a lot, for me.

Ginja · 02-06-2011, 05:21 PM

No I know there isn't much to eliminate but I spend most of the time feeling bloated and I'm pretty sure that isn't normal :/ I am not hungry though LOL the last thing in the world I am is hungry! I have to go in the kitchen right now and force myself to eat some cucumbers and fish.

Maybe i'll open a can of spinach tomorrow...but I hate canned greens just don't think that eating them the way we make them is on plan...maybe in p3 but not p2

shelbyla · 02-06-2011, 10:57 PM

Ginja - two questions... are you using magnesium CITRATE? The other magnesiums often don't work as well.

The other thing you can try (as weird as it sounds), is an abdomen massage. Lay on your back on a firm surface, press down into your abdomen, starting about 2 inches above your belly button, and massage in small circles, for 5 seconds. Moving in a clockwise direction, continue massaging in small circles all the way around your belly button. I do this first thing every morning and within about 15 minutes Bernice makes an appearance.

I guess the other thing you can try is coconut oil (a tablespoon or two) although it's a toss up about whether it will impact the weight loss or not.

Hugs to you! I know it's uncomfortable...

Ginja · 02-06-2011, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Ginja - two questions... are you using magnesium CITRATE? The other magnesiums often don't work as well.

The other thing you can try (as weird as it sounds), is an abdomen massage. Lay on your back on a firm surface, press down into your abdomen, starting about 2 inches above your belly button, and massage in small circles, for 5 seconds. Moving in a clockwise direction, continue massaging in small circles all the way around your belly button. I do this first thing every morning and within about 15 minutes Bernice makes an appearance.

I guess the other thing you can try is coconut oil (a tablespoon or two) although it's a toss up about whether it will impact the weight loss or not.

Hugs to you! I know it's uncomfortable...

Heya Shelby! Yes Magnesium Citrate. This abdomen massage sounds promising i'll give it a try tomorrow the last of my cleansing herbs should be out of my system...thank you!

I have some coconut oil but I'm allergic, won't eat it...I just use it for my hair right now

Viollet · 02-07-2011, 06:57 AM

Hi,
I have been using Stevia sweetener which I bought off eBay - it has fiber in it from something called inulin - it has no cals and you have to stir it in properly in a hot drink. I think it is 3 sachets a day is the equivilent fiber to a bowl of bran?

I have had no probs yet with log jams.

Viollet

Laurel88 · 02-07-2011, 07:03 AM

Psyllium husks!

fembomb · 02-07-2011, 08:54 AM

i decided Before i started this..
to trade the 2 melba for 2 Tblspoons flax seed meal..
i also have 1-3 fiber choice tablets every day
with lots of water..
i know you drink tons of water..
so you should have no issues with whatever fiber you choose..
my body is fickle with fibers..
the Only reliable way for me is ..
at least 4 Eight(8) oz cups of coffee every day
and that 2 Tblspoons of flax seed meal..
i have internal hemmroids very bad since i was 18 ..
and if i dont actively protect them..
i get anemic again...
so this is what i am committed to..
works Great for me

julieboolie · 02-07-2011, 09:31 AM

I've had a similar issue, but with P3 for me. In P2 the coffee and magnesium was enough to keep me moving along. Now that I'm eating more it's becoming more of an issue.

I added probiotics and they seem to be helping. I'm still not eating tons of fiber. I don't do well on fiber supplements - flax meal doesn't agree w/ me either.

I haven't tried a senna or other laxative yet, and hope not to have to resort to that. It's improving daily, but not where it should be. Need to be consisitent w/ the probiotics to see if they're truly effective.

Hope it gets straightened out soon!!

Ginja · 02-07-2011, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fembomb

i decided Before i started this..
to trade the 2 melba for 2 Tblspoons flax seed meal..
i also have 1-3 fiber choice tablets every day
with lots of water..
i know you drink tons of water..
so you should have no issues with whatever fiber you choose..
my body is fickle with fibers..
the Only reliable way for me is ..
at least 4 Eight(8) oz cups of coffee every day
and that 2 Tblspoons of flax seed meal..
i have internal hemmroids very bad since i was 18 ..
and if i dont actively protect them..
i get anemic again...
so this is what i am committed to..
works Great for me

Maybe this is where my problem is, I was regularly taking flax seed oil supplements before I started but I stopped for the plan. I do have some flax seeds in the cupboard, I may try to get them in my foods....awesome suggestion thanks!

Ginja · 02-07-2011, 10:44 AM

Thanks everyone for your suggestions, i'm going to keep trying stuff till I get this right cause man this bloated feeling seems counterproductive to the plan

LowCarbinPA · 02-08-2011, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginja

Thanks everyone for your suggestions, i'm going to keep trying stuff till I get this right cause man this bloated feeling seems counterproductive to the plan

Ginja, thanks for starting this thread. I'm dealing with the same problem. I took mag a week ago with success....and again Saturday with nothing. I just had 160mg mag in some tea. If I don't have any success today, I'll try the flax seed too. Fortunately, I'm not bloated, but I know this needs correcting. Keep us posted.

I've GOT to increase my water intake. I can only get hot tea in me when it's this cold!!

Week 1: -4.2
Week 2: -3.4
Week 3: -2.2
R1P2VLCD19:139.6

minimonkey · 02-08-2011, 04:07 PM

Inulin is great stuff -- it is a pre-biotic, meaning that it helps the growth of beneficial bacteria in the gut.

I tend to go the, uh.. other direction with bowel issues than most of you. Probiotics, in my opinion, are something we should all take regularly. We just don't get enough of them in all of our chemically treated food, and they do help immensely with the gut....

Gut health is SO important to our overall functioning, too... not only is a tremendous amount of the immune system dependent on a healthy gut, but actually our brain neurotransmitters are also largely manufactured there... serotonin, dopamine, etc.... so our mood states are dependent on gut health as well.

Ginja · 02-08-2011, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowCarbinPA

Ginja, thanks for starting this thread. I'm dealing with the same problem. I took mag a week ago with success....and again Saturday with nothing. I just had 160mg mag in some tea. If I don't have any success today, I'll try the flax seed too. Fortunately, I'm not bloated, but I know this needs correcting. Keep us posted.

I've GOT to increase my water intake. I can only get hot tea in me when it's this cold!!

Week 1: -4.2
Week 2: -3.4
Week 3: -2.2
R1P2VLCD19:139.6

Well just to keep you guys posted, I haven't incorporated the flax seeds yet, I decided to go back to my trusty benefiber because it's a lot easier to mix with my food. I know I have problems specifically digesting red meat, I was hoping the magnesium would help with that but it really hasn't. I had fiber yesterday and today with my p2 chili (I mixed it right in the pan).

I haven't had another visit from bernice since the last day of my cleanse but the fiber has taken the bloated uncomfortable feeling away so I am having relief in that sense.

@ MM Inulin, I will look into this thanks

LowCarbinPA · 02-10-2011, 05:53 AM

The 160mg mag powder in tea worked for me that day.

Hang in there Ginja - something will work for you.

Joy2UnMe · 02-10-2011, 08:35 AM

One thing that moves me along EVERYTIME, and sometimes within 30 minutes of taking it, is a healthy dose of Natural Calm (a magnesium supplement you drink hot) -- then it is absorbed immediately in your body. I don't take this supplement for this particular reason, however, it can be a welcomed side effect. I prefer the sweet lemon flavor (all organic and sweetened with stevia).

halebop · 02-10-2011, 08:53 AM

How about the smooth move tea? Does anyone use that? I've heard about it but never tried. I do know it isn't good to drink it every day but maybe when you really "need" to?

Hope you're feeling better.

02-06-2011, 04:56 PM	#1
Ginja Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 243 Gallery: Ginja Stats: 212/171/150 WOE: hHcg 'Ginja-style' Start Date: January 24 2011	Fiber? Ok this ain't working for me. I do NOT like having to use a cleanse to get Bernice to visit. It's not healthy, and really it means I'll have to keep buying stuffs and I'm on a budget. And I know from experience, the less vegetables I eat, the less chance she comes. Soooooo I know about the magnesium, I've used it and nope nada nein zilch. I used to use Benefiber in my water bottle, does anyone have any input on Fiber on protocol? This is just freaking uncomfortable

02-07-2011, 08:54 AM	#8
fembomb Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Coronado, CA. Posts: 1,085 Gallery: fembomb Stats: Highest 210/198/118 WOE: Atkins + HHCG (Fishy Vegetarian) Start Date: Atkins since 1998	i decided Before i started this.. to trade the 2 melba for 2 Tblspoons flax seed meal.. i also have 1-3 fiber choice tablets every day with lots of water.. i know you drink tons of water.. so you should have no issues with whatever fiber you choose.. my body is fickle with fibers.. the Only reliable way for me is .. at least 4 Eight(8) oz cups of coffee every day and that 2 Tblspoons of flax seed meal.. i have internal hemmroids very bad since i was 18 .. and if i dont actively protect them.. i get anemic again... so this is what i am committed to.. works Great for me __________________ ~i dont do taxi cabs..i Do Limos~ __________________

02-07-2011, 09:31 AM	#9
julieboolie Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunny AZ Posts: 7,111 Gallery: julieboolie Stats: 272/147.6/140something Size 24/4-6-8/4-6 :) WOE: one day at a time!! LC! Start Date: July 14, 2003 - every day!!	I've had a similar issue, but with P3 for me. In P2 the coffee and magnesium was enough to keep me moving along. Now that I'm eating more it's becoming more of an issue. I added probiotics and they seem to be helping. I'm still not eating tons of fiber. I don't do well on fiber supplements - flax meal doesn't agree w/ me either. I haven't tried a senna or other laxative yet, and hope not to have to resort to that. It's improving daily, but not where it should be. Need to be consisitent w/ the probiotics to see if they're truly effective. Hope it gets straightened out soon!! __________________ Julie Prov. 3:5-6 - "He shall direct (my) paths" Daily updates in my journal. Maintenance in the 140's http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/we...s-journal.html

02-08-2011, 04:07 PM	#13
minimonkey Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,029 Gallery: minimonkey Stats: 5'0" -- very small frame WOE: Clean eating, whole foods	Inulin is great stuff -- it is a pre-biotic, meaning that it helps the growth of beneficial bacteria in the gut. I tend to go the, uh.. other direction with bowel issues than most of you. Probiotics, in my opinion, are something we should all take regularly. We just don't get enough of them in all of our chemically treated food, and they do help immensely with the gut.... Gut health is SO important to our overall functioning, too... not only is a tremendous amount of the immune system dependent on a healthy gut, but actually our brain neurotransmitters are also largely manufactured there... serotonin, dopamine, etc.... so our mood states are dependent on gut health as well. __________________ Rogue p2 cycling: 8/28:128.6 .... 10/7 118.4 ....10/20: 115.8

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02-06-2011, 05:16 PM	#2
minimonkey Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,029 Gallery: minimonkey Stats: 5'0" -- very small frame WOE: Clean eating, whole foods	I think it should be fine to use fiber -- and of course vitamin C can help in that department, too -- sorry you are having these troubles! I do find that -- although I am surprisingly regular on this plan -- there just isn't much to eliminate... we don't eat enough food to create much bulk. I find the apples help with digestion a lot, for me.

02-06-2011, 05:21 PM	#3
Ginja Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 243 Gallery: Ginja Stats: 212/171/150 WOE: hHcg 'Ginja-style' Start Date: January 24 2011	No I know there isn't much to eliminate but I spend most of the time feeling bloated and I'm pretty sure that isn't normal :/ I am not hungry though LOL the last thing in the world I am is hungry! I have to go in the kitchen right now and force myself to eat some cucumbers and fish. Maybe i'll open a can of spinach tomorrow...but I hate canned greens just don't think that eating them the way we make them is on plan...maybe in p3 but not p2

02-06-2011, 10:57 PM	#4
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	Ginja - two questions... are you using magnesium CITRATE? The other magnesiums often don't work as well. The other thing you can try (as weird as it sounds), is an abdomen massage. Lay on your back on a firm surface, press down into your abdomen, starting about 2 inches above your belly button, and massage in small circles, for 5 seconds. Moving in a clockwise direction, continue massaging in small circles all the way around your belly button. I do this first thing every morning and within about 15 minutes Bernice makes an appearance. I guess the other thing you can try is coconut oil (a tablespoon or two) although it's a toss up about whether it will impact the weight loss or not. Hugs to you! I know it's uncomfortable...

02-07-2011, 06:57 AM	#6
Viollet Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 35 Gallery: Viollet	Hi, I have been using Stevia sweetener which I bought off eBay - it has fiber in it from something called inulin - it has no cals and you have to stir it in properly in a hot drink. I think it is 3 sachets a day is the equivilent fiber to a bowl of bran? I have had no probs yet with log jams. Viollet

02-07-2011, 07:03 AM	#7
Laurel88 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 9 Gallery: Laurel88 Stats: 155/146.2/130 5'6" WOE: Atkins Start Date: Jan. 1, 2011	Psyllium husks!

02-07-2011, 10:44 AM	#11
Ginja Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 243 Gallery: Ginja Stats: 212/171/150 WOE: hHcg 'Ginja-style' Start Date: January 24 2011	Thanks everyone for your suggestions, i'm going to keep trying stuff till I get this right cause man this bloated feeling seems counterproductive to the plan

02-10-2011, 05:53 AM	#15
LowCarbinPA Junior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 49 Gallery: LowCarbinPA Stats: HW:159 R1P2(149.6/133.2/115) WOE: Atkins, hHcg Start Date: Atkins(Feb '09); hHcg (Jan '11)	The 160mg mag powder in tea worked for me that day. Hang in there Ginja - something will work for you.

02-10-2011, 08:35 AM	#16
Joy2UnMe Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 218 Gallery: Joy2UnMe Stats: 245/237/140 WOE: Alternative P2 Start Date: Mar 7, 2012 245 / Mar 14, 2012 237	One thing that moves me along EVERYTIME, and sometimes within 30 minutes of taking it, is a healthy dose of Natural Calm (a magnesium supplement you drink hot) -- then it is absorbed immediately in your body. I don't take this supplement for this particular reason, however, it can be a welcomed side effect. I prefer the sweet lemon flavor (all organic and sweetened with stevia).

02-10-2011, 08:53 AM	#17
halebop Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 365 Gallery: halebop Stats: 195/180/135	How about the smooth move tea? Does anyone use that? I've heard about it but never tried. I do know it isn't good to drink it every day but maybe when you really "need" to? Hope you're feeling better.