HCG Alternative Plans week of 1/10/11

[Somewhat Damaged]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

SD-I don't really know if the HCG really does all Simeon's claims it does. I'm not sure the homeopathic is even the same type as the Rx. As a scientist I really wrestled with that for a while. Does it really "reshape" me? Will it heal my "hypothalmus"? Then I tried it and realized, I don't need to know or understand all of that. It's worked for me. Whether being strict, starving, the hormone, or whatever- it works!! I'm 32lbs thinner since Labor Day weekend, after losing 100lbs on Atkins 7 years ago and bouncing up and down not being able to really lose this last 30lbs any other way (diet, exercise etc). I'm thrilled!!

Great job Julie! I started Labor Day weekend too and am down 34 as of this morning. It's the only thing that's worked for me and even though I'm struggling with some questions about it right now, I am also thrilled

Originally Posted by Danceruk

If anyone has any little items I could get tonight that might help ... Stuck!..Know I need more tea..

Ready to rock and roll

For me, Natural Calm magnesium has been a lifesaver in keeping things moving along in my digestive tract. I have the lemon flavor and love it... if I need more 'help' I take more, or I can take a lower dose if I need less 'help'.

Also, Electro-mix by Alacer (the company that makes Emergen-c). If I feel crappy during the week and don't know why, I mix up a packet with a liter of water and it has me feeling better almost instantly.


So, after yesterday's fat binge (1000 cals of almond butter, whoa!) I decided to take a couple maintenance days. I'm ignoring the 72 hour wait and have stopped my drops and am eating normally today. This morning I was 'rewarded' (?) with a .6 lb loss on the scale, so I'm at 152.6. My goal is to just maintain through the weekend and get back on VLCD on Monday.

[mermaid]

You all are like beautiful angels come to rescue me from my fat prison! I know that's a little over the top, but I am seeing such wisdom and frankness here, from people who have been through it all like I have and have succeeded. I feel now like this has a very good chance of working for me and I really needed that hope after gaining 25 pounds this winter.

I am just finishing loading, and boy did I do it good! Pizza and pudding and burritos and hash browns and cookies. I intentionally wanted to be a little sick to give myself a negative feeling about those fattening foods. For right now, it sure has worked.

Tomorrow is VLCD #1, and I am excited and a little scared. I am also confident that whatever comes up I have lots of good advice from all of you about things to try.

I really appreciate the information about leptin and also about staying on the homeopathic through P3 as well. I think this rogue stuff is so cool! I still have a lot of questions, and maybe a thing or two to share, but I'll try to hold back and not post a book each time, LOL.

Just one more thing though--I love the Jon Gabriel CD too! I really wish I could be like him and magically have 200 pounds disappear, but that hasn't happened so here I go on VLC!

[nitenurse]

I am off the drops/pellets for a few days, eating medium-(actually I think I wasn't eating enough, overestimating the calories I was eating, because I am feeling stronger). I think maybe I have been undereating too much. Which is not a good idea, either.
Will see later how long a vacation I am going to take from the drops. Guess maybe I should weigh my food until I get a better idea of what "portions" really are.
I am so impressed by everyone's progress.

[minimonkey]

SomewhatD: I feel the same way -- I'm a scientist as well (a social scientist, but with a lot of research experience). I came to the same conclusion: This works, and I don't really need to understand exactly why. I have a bear of a time with this last bit of weight, and if I can get, and keep, it off this way, then I will be forever grateful!

[lisaislosingit]

This is such an interesting thread! I lost a bunch of weight over a 1 1/2 yr period. Mostly it was calorie counting/healthy food. I was anxious to get to my goal weight before summer and I did a round of hhcg and lost 20lbs. But it was brutal. I had a big cheat because I felt so awful, just awful, not able to function. But I know it did work. So after that I have been VLC maintenance over the summer and fall. I still would like to lose 10-20lbs and it's being very difficult. I'm at a weight that I always get stuck at. I'm working out though and don't want to give that up. I have been seriously considering trying a rogue round with just bumping up the protein.

My big question for you guys is....ARE YOU EATING FAT??? I keep seeing posters say they are doing hhcg on Atkins but that is high fat, no? How can you lose on hhcg eating fat?

Ok, educate me please!

[minimonkey]

Welcome Lisa!!!!!

Some folks are eating fat, and doing okay with it. Others, like me, are sticking pretty close to protocol. I don't find it too terribly difficult most days, but I have had a couple of really hard ones.

Congratulations on your great success so far! Maybe a round of hcg is just what you need to get the last of the weight off... that is always the hardest part to lose.

[Danceruk]

mini you look so cute

Woohoo first day VLCD

Had a huge mug of tea

not sure whats on the menu just yet... oranges for sure... I got some quorn mince, so probably cook that with some chopped tomatoes and chilli

Have a portion of cottage cheese that needs eating, so will have that at somepoint!

Super excited Hopefully can get all abs showing by end of the round... am shall we say..puffy after loading..lol

Hope everyone has a good weekend

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by minimonkey

Paula -- I forgot to say "congratulations" on the size 12 jeans! Whoohoo!

Thanks! It's amazing to me...took about 20 pounds to change sizes when I started, and now they change every 10 pounds or maybe faster.

Originally Posted by Lil Donna

Thank you to everyone who responded!!! I went rogue and have lost 2 lbs in 3 days!!! I was stuck for at least 4 days and starving!! Thanks again

Glad it helped! You've got to do what works!

Originally Posted by jolenethequeen

VLCD 7: 286.0
VLCD 8: 287.2
VLCD 9: 286.6
VLCD 10: 284.0
VLCD 11: 283.0
VLCD 12: 283.0

Did 30 minutes on the elliptical last night... but no loss )= Should i just skip the elliptical?

If you like it I would keep it up. Staying the same weight from day to day gets more common as you are on your second week (just my opinion). Sometimes exercises positive effects just don't show up right away.

Originally Posted by Somewhat Damaged

So, after yesterday's fat binge (1000 cals of almond butter, whoa!) I decided to take a couple maintenance days. I'm ignoring the 72 hour wait and have stopped my drops and am eating normally today. This morning I was 'rewarded' (?) with a .6 lb loss on the scale, so I'm at 152.6. My goal is to just maintain through the weekend and get back on VLCD on Monday.

Yes, if almond butter is tempting you, sounds like a weekend off is a great idea. I definitely find the 500 calories easier knowing it's just a few days, and I can have lowcarb foods on the weekend.

Originally Posted by mermaid

I feel now like this has a very good chance of working for me and I really needed that hope after gaining 25 pounds this winter.

We're totally rooting for you!

Originally Posted by nitenurse

I think maybe I have been undereating too much. Which is not a good idea, either.
Will see later how long a vacation I am going to take from the drops. Guess maybe I should weigh my food until I get a better idea of what "portions" really are.

Oh yeah, I cannot estimate anything, I always have to weigh. Some people have a knack for it but not me! Enjoy your break.

Originally Posted by lisaislosingit

I have been seriously considering trying a rogue round with just bumping up the protein.

My big question for you guys is....ARE YOU EATING FAT??? I keep seeing posters say they are doing hhcg on Atkins but that is high fat, no? How can you lose on hhcg eating fat?

Some people are eating atkins with lots of fat. I basically do protocol but let myself eat any meat, no fruit melba, tons of protein. I generally get 20-30 grams of fat a day. When I need it, I have a coconut oil treat. But since I am aiming for maximum protein for the calories, I do avoid anything other than smidgeon's!

Originally Posted by Danceruk

Super excited Hopefully can get all abs showing by end of the round... am shall we say..puffy after loading..lol

Wow, what a goal! Even when thin mine never showed...but then I never worked at it! I can't wait to hear your progress!

Finally had good movement on scale. Down 1.6 this morning and had a nice .5 % drop in body fat too. So, overall 1.2 pounds lost from last Saturday (finally caught up with it!). That pulls my average loss up to .46, which is getting closer to normal. Phew!

[Deb294evr]

Wow, I missed a whole day of good stuff!!.. work got in the way and then my DD's 18th birthday, so busy...

Glad to see so many people here having such a great discussion! I love being able to discuss, debate and see what is working for everyone! EXCITING!!! and remember how many people you are helping today, by talking about it. Struggles, success, everything is open for all to learn from. How I wish I had something like this years ago... who knows..?

Anyway! My week of JUDDD eating on HHCG is almost up.. I weigh in tomorrow. I did an up day yesterday and the thing I am learning is when I am on a DOWN day... I want so many things... yet when I am on an UP day.. and have that choice, I don't want it... SOOOOOOOOOOOO conclusion?... I don't know...

I do believe so much of it is in the mind. When you are restricted in some way, you rebel against it.. ( OR I DO!!) some love restriction... I guess it is my makeup that I resist it... On my unrestricted days, I don't crave. I eat what I truly want.. and leave it at that...

Now my question to myself is... why not just have all UN restricted days? Why doesn't that work for me? I don't know. So many things to figure out for myself, which is why my life is a constant experiment!....

I know I am heading down the scales though, and a year ago I was 282... so I am grateful to have found HCG.. and all the wonderful people who add their experiences and ideas... I thank you!!!!

[j4Christ]

Great Saturday morning to you all! I am so impressed with those of you staying at 500 cals daily, whether strict protocol or otherwise. My head is just not in that game right now, although I wish it was! BUT I pulled off another 500 cal. day yesterday, YES even on a Friday!! I must have almost thrown in the towel 3-4 times, since Friday I usually have a few glasses of wine! I was so looking forward to a loss this morning, but I am up 2 lbs. Not sure why, even my UP day on Thurs. was nothing out of the ordinary, just good LC eating. Oh well, onward...

My down day menu was:
B-black coffee, 1 egg sprinkled w/ small amount bacon bits, 1/2 grapefruit, small mug cabbage/tandoori soup (this is really for dinner, but had to sample)
L-celery/caul., 3 oz. chic breast
D-salad w/ Wishbone spritzer, rest of cabbage/tandoori soup, but I added 3 oz. sirloin strips and 1 pkg. miracle noodles

It was rather easy and maybe in the future I could get back to more 500 cal. days.

I am so excited for all of you that are getting close to your goals! It gives this 49 yr. old gal some hope of getting close to goal by 50!

to all the newbies. I love all the new excitement!

[julieboolie]

Good morning all!!

Deb-that's interesting. The "forbidden fruit is always sweeter" thing is so true!! We do always want what we can't have, in more areas of life than just dieting. I have found that hcg has made me appreciate my normal LC WOE that I used to feel a tad deprived in. . Now, bacon and eggs, cheeseburgers etc. look decadent and forbidden to me. An odd perspective thing. I agree, so much of weight loss, and maintenance is a mindset.

Paula- Woo-hoo!! you are so faithful and patient, and your body rewarded you!! WTG!! I agree, it's odd that in smaller sizes less weight between them. I lost 32lbs and 3 sizes, which shocked me. Kinda' counting on that little bit more to get me down another size. we'll see.

Jolene-if you feel good on the exercise, keep it up. It always makes me hungrier so I am waiting until I'm done.

SD-really? That's very interesting. Good for you listening to your body. Not sure what my weekend eating will look like. I feel like upping my cals, but I'm still losing well and know I will stall soon. I don't want to waste this little window of loss my body allows on up calorie days.

Nitenurse-you're probably right. The scale, although annoying, is quite helpful. It'd be nice to have to UP your food intake to lose though, right?

Mermaid-you can do it!! Trust me, if it works for me, it'll work for you too!

Lisa-I don't pursue fat, but I don't completely eliminate it either. I trim it from my meat, and skim it off my broth, but I don't cook only in water, or skip the lotions etc. I do have half/half in my coffee, that's my true indulgence. I do try to choose lower fat options. I wouldnt' say that Atkins is a high fat plan either. Many people have made it into that, but his original plan is about HEALTHY fats, not all fat, no carb as has become the reputation. I do admit though that the "fat is ok" idea is what made me decide to give it a try 8 years ago . So glad i did!!

Dancer-take some "before" pictures. You'll be so glad you did!!

Have a great day all. I am down to 154.4 today, virgin weight territory!! Quite pleased. Ate a bit higher yesterday, around 1000 calories, but feel like I'm in the "losing zone". A bit afraid to mess up this small window of losing this weekend, but torn. If I don't up my cals a bit will I stall out sooner? If I up them, will I gain and have to work twice as hard next week to get back here? Grr, wish I came with a handbook!! I'll likely decide and try to listen to my body. It's not usually right, so I may engage my mind too .

[j4Christ]

Oh, and BTW, I am trying to follow Jon Gabriel's nutritional guidlines on my UP days. It's not too far off what I normally try to eat. Good protein (although I don't/can't buy organic), fresh vegies (also not organic), cooked vegies, little fruit, adding in the flax and Omega 3s, staying away from processed junk. I ask myself is this food live or dead? It puts a better picture in my head as to what I'm putting in my mouth. He doesn't really address wine, but I do enjoy wine on UP days.

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by j4Christ

Great Saturday morning to you all! I am so impressed with those of you staying at 500 cals daily, whether strict protocol or otherwise. My head is just not in that game right now, although I wish it was! BUT I pulled off another 500 cal. day yesterday, YES even on a Friday!! I must have almost thrown in the towel 3-4 times, since Friday I usually have a few glasses of wine! I was so looking forward to a loss this morning, but I am up 2 lbs. Not sure why, even my UP day on Thurs. was nothing out of the ordinary, just good LC eating. Oh well, onward...

My down day menu was:
B-black coffee, 1 egg sprinkled w/ small amount bacon bits, 1/2 grapefruit, small mug cabbage/tandoori soup (this is really for dinner, but had to sample)
L-celery/caul., 3 oz. chic breast
D-salad w/ Wishbone spritzer, rest of cabbage/tandoori soup, but I added 3 oz. sirloin strips and 1 pkg. miracle noodles

It was rather easy and maybe in the future I could get back to more 500 cal. days.

I am so excited for all of you that are getting close to your goals! It gives this 49 yr. old gal some hope of getting close to goal by 50!

to all the newbies. I love all the new excitement!

I hear you on why in the world would you gain weight? My opinion is that it is the fiber holding water for you... once your body adjusts to the wonderful foods you are allowing yourself, your losses will be steady and sweet!..

Menu looks good, they did say on the down days is when you lose... and you lock it in with the up days.. just give it some time... I am sure your body is loving that healthy food!! Keep it guessing on the amount .. love it...

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Good morning all!!

Deb-that's interesting. The "forbidden fruit is always sweeter" thing is so true!! We do always want what we can't have, in more areas of life than just dieting. I have found that hcg has made me appreciate my normal LC WOE that I used to feel a tad deprived in. . Now, bacon and eggs, cheeseburgers etc. look decadent and forbidden to me. An odd perspective thing. I agree, so much of weight loss, and maintenance is a mindset.

Have a great day all. I am down to 154.4 today, virgin weight territory!! Quite pleased. Ate a bit higher yesterday, around 1000 calories, but feel like I'm in the "losing zone". A bit afraid to mess up this small window of losing this weekend, but torn. If I don't up my cals a bit will I stall out sooner? If I up them, will I gain and have to work twice as hard next week to get back here? Grr, wish I came with a handbook!! I'll likely decide and try to listen to my body. It's not usually right, so I may engage my mind too .

Julie I agree with you 100% that after protocol, LC looks like a slice of heaven!! I think this is why I am eating this way now... I naturally am choosing low carb foods..

CONGRATS on VIRGIN TERRITORY!!!! that is wonderful! I know you have struggled being down in the 50's so I am very happy for you girl!.. You have done so well!! Such a hard decision when you are losing to change it ... and as for your body will stall out sooner... who knows? It has before, but will it again? I'd say if you have some true hunger, up it some... 1000 seems pretty low to me!... You know what to do if it does go up some, but keeping your body guessing is a good thing... you don't want to get to goal, and never be able to eat more than 1000 cals or so a day... uggggg. Best of luck to ya hon!!

Originally Posted by j4Christ

Oh, and BTW, I am trying to follow Jon Gabriel's nutritional guidlines on my UP days. It's not too far off what I normally try to eat. Good protein (although I don't/can't buy organic), fresh vegies (also not organic), cooked vegies, little fruit, adding in the flax and Omega 3s, staying away from processed junk. I ask myself is this food live or dead? It puts a better picture in my head as to what I'm putting in my mouth. He doesn't really address wine, but I do enjoy wine on UP days.

EXCELLENT ADVICE!!!! now wine was live at one time, right?....

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by paulabob

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Finally had good movement on scale. Down 1.6 this morning and had a nice .5 % drop in body fat too. So, overall 1.2 pounds lost from last Saturday (finally caught up with it!). That pulls my average loss up to .46, which is getting closer to normal. Phew!

WOW PAULA!! congrats to you too!! wonderful loss for such a little girl!..

[j4Christ]

Lostfox-can you drink the Bonjenmi Tea all day? For example make a concentrated brew of 3 teabags (or whatever the daily suggestion is) and then dilute it w/ my daily amount of water (about 70oz.) and drink cold all day? I'm going to look for some today and will also look into the African Mango. Thanks for all your info!

Wow! 3 posts in a row from me! I'm on a roll.

[j4Christ]

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

I hear you on why in the world would you gain weight? My opinion is that it is the fiber holding water for you... once your body adjusts to the wonderful foods you are allowing yourself, your losses will be steady and sweet!..

Menu looks good, they did say on the down days is when you lose... and you lock it in with the up days.. just give it some time... I am sure your body is loving that healthy food!! Keep it guessing on the amount .. love it...








EXCELLENT ADVICE!!!! now wine was live at one time, right?....

Thanks, I didn't think of that. I have been eating more fiber in the form of flaxmeal/PB energy balls. I've always gotten in my chia seed. But hopefully you're right about retaining water. Also, Bernice came for a nice visit AFTER I weighed so maybe that will help. Thanks for encouragement!


Hee-hee, I'll go along with wine being live at one point!!

[mermaid]

Day 1 of round 1 phase 1:
Going rogue right from the get-go with a small cup of coffee and cream. It was cold and dark in the house and I was trying to work and I just needed it. I can't stand hot tea or coffee without cream or I would just do that.

I think I will be doing something similar to Paula with no fruit or bread, but veggies and more protein and tiny bits of fat when needed (correct me if I got it wrong Paula). We'll see how that works. And also congrats Paula on your weight drop!

Hubby seems to be on board with the plan, and he will be cooking for himself and DD for the next six weeks.

Thanks for posting your menu, J4Christ. I like the idea of an egg in the morning and I may try that when I'm hungry. I may also mix an egg in broth/soup once in a while. They are only 60 calories even though they have some fat.

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by mermaid

Day 1 of round 1 phase 1:
Going rogue right from the get-go with a small cup of coffee and cream. It was cold and dark in the house and I was trying to work and I just needed it. I can't stand hot tea or coffee without cream or I would just do that.

I think I will be doing something similar to Paula with no fruit or bread, but veggies and more protein and tiny bits of fat when needed (correct me if I got it wrong Paula). We'll see how that works. And also congrats Paula on your weight drop!

Hubby seems to be on board with the plan, and he will be cooking for himself and DD for the next six weeks.

Thanks for posting your menu, J4Christ. I like the idea of an egg in the morning and I may try that when I'm hungry. I may also mix an egg in broth/soup once in a while. They are only 60 calories even though they have some fat.

You have a great plan!! I drank coffee with cream from day one in my first round and lost 21 in 21 days... good luck to ya!!!...

[mermaid]

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

You have a great plan!! I drank coffee with cream from day one in my first round and lost 21 in 21 days... good luck to ya!!!...

Sweet! Thanks!

[baugherk]

Jolene--we are just about the same days in and this week two has been up and down and up and down for me. Week 2 seems to be that way for most people. I wouldn't blame the elliptical--I think those even numbered weeks seem to be your body adjusting to the larger losses on weeks 1-3-5 and so forth. Let's both keep our fingers crossed that we'll get a whoosh and next week will be better.

So, that's my report everyone. Week two has been really up and down. Made it to a new decade and then right back up out of it. I'm sitting right ON the dividing line this morning and visuallizing my new number Keeping my fingers crossed for more losses and a great week three.

[lostfox]

Originally Posted by j4Christ

Lostfox-can you drink the Bonjenmi Tea all day? For example make a concentrated brew of 3 teabags (or whatever the daily suggestion is) and then dilute it w/ my daily amount of water (about 70oz.) and drink cold all day? I'm going to look for some today and will also look into the African Mango. Thanks for all your info!

Wow! 3 posts in a row from me! I'm on a roll.

Hey J4 - doesn't it feel great just to pull that one low 500 day - that's what I love about JUDDDing, one day at a time, you do that one VLCD day, then you're done, by the time another one comes around, you're more than ready. And even if you by chance have 2000 calories on your up day, you're still only at 1250 calories as a daily average, which is sweet!

Yeah I would do that with the Bojenmi tea, 3 bags a day is about what it recommends, so making it all up in advance sounds like a good idea too.

Can't wait for this African Mango to come. I have the three clinical studies, don't think I can link to them though b/c they're on a site that maybe sells something, but this is good science around this stuff. Can't wait to be a part of the experiment on this one.

Ach, woke up with laryngitis this morning. I added some oregano oil to my cold defense plan... should have done that before, though I have been gargling a bit. I was looking all over Walmart last week for the EmergenC but couldn't find it. I just want to feel better so I can exercise... I guess with this cold lingering, it's my body's way of telling me to take it easy and relax - I'm all revved up to exercise and I know I can't - or shouldn't - the fat will shed in its own good time anyway. There's no way it cannot at this point! I just gotta get in some good, non-synthetic vitamins and minerals, I've been dependent on the synthetic vitamins for too long. But at the same time, maybe it's time for a B12 shot.

DD today. I gotta make some more nice soup (beet, carrot and lentil, sounds kinda gross, but with the flavorings it was really nice last time and it's all the veggies I have in the house right now). Probably just soup and a smoothie today, maybe one slice of almond bread.

[lostfox]

Originally Posted by mermaid

Day 1 of round 1 phase 1:
Going rogue right from the get-go with a small cup of coffee and cream. It was cold and dark in the house and I was trying to work and I just needed it. I can't stand hot tea or coffee without cream or I would just do that.

I think I will be doing something similar to Paula with no fruit or bread, but veggies and more protein and tiny bits of fat when needed (correct me if I got it wrong Paula). We'll see how that works. And also congrats Paula on your weight drop!

Hubby seems to be on board with the plan, and he will be cooking for himself and DD for the next six weeks.

Thanks for posting your menu, J4Christ. I like the idea of an egg in the morning and I may try that when I'm hungry. I may also mix an egg in broth/soup once in a while. They are only 60 calories even though they have some fat.

Egg in broth or soup - that sounds nice, good idea, thanks! I made some garlic soup last night and ate it all. I had consulted a few recipes and one of them actually involved whisking the hot soup into a beaten egg. Maybe I'll try that next time. Strange thing about garlic soup, seems kind of like an appetite suppressant. All it was, was once bulb of garlic, all peeled, lightly roasted for about 15 min. @ 400 degrees (not fully roasted), then blended together with a couple cups of water and a hunk of miso - about 1/4 cup, and then added to about 2 cups of veggie or chicken broth. Easy - and probably good for viruses too. Next time, I'll add the egg and make a light meal out of it.

[mermaid]

Originally Posted by lostfox

Egg in broth or soup - that sounds nice, good idea, thanks! I made some garlic soup last night and ate it all. I had consulted a few recipes and one of them actually involved whisking the hot soup into a beaten egg. Maybe I'll try that next time. Strange thing about garlic soup, seems kind of like an appetite suppressant. All it was, was once bulb of garlic, all peeled, lightly roasted for about 15 min. @ 400 degrees (not fully roasted), then blended together with a couple cups of water and a hunk of miso - about 1/4 cup, and then added to about 2 cups of veggie or chicken broth. Easy - and probably good for viruses too. Next time, I'll add the egg and make a light meal out of it.

Here's another recipe for ya:
light broth with basil, parsley, and garlic, a pinch of veggies, pinch of meat, half a lemon's juice, pinch of parmesan, one beaten egg drizzled into very hot broth to make ribbons. Can be thickened with non-starch thickener.

I'm allergic to chicken so I have to use alternatives like turkey and veggie broth, but most would use chicken and chicken broth in this.

Should be excellent for that cold!

[Danceruk]

I will deffo be taking some ab shots..lol not sure I want to look today..lol I have 2 puffy ones lol

Gonna make something with Quorn mince and tomato for tonight, be nice and warming with a lot of chilli flakes

So far so good...dont feel hungry...so far lol

[minimonkey]

Way to go, everyone! Julie -- virgin weight -- whoooohoooo!

Dancer -- your goal and mine are similar (I think I am dropping mine to 105) -- how tall are you?

[Danceruk]

I am 5ft 5 and a little bit...though I am sure thats wrong!!! ...The doctor measured me at that

Think am 5'4 more likely!!

Have a consultation for breast reduction in 5 weeks, hoping I can loose some more off there by then so I wont need as much surgery done! May mean going down weightwise a bit more than I would like but save me money in the long run!!!

Seem to have found the secret to fruit tea...2 teabags..omg..its so good ....trying to put off having dinner for another hour...not hungry..more bored than anything lol

Ordered a load of celestial seasonings tea off ebay... hope they are good

[lostfox]

Originally Posted by mermaid

Here's another recipe for ya:
light broth with basil, parsley, and garlic, a pinch of veggies, pinch of meat, half a lemon's juice, pinch of parmesan, one beaten egg drizzled into very hot broth to make ribbons. Can be thickened with non-starch thickener.

I'm allergic to chicken so I have to use alternatives like turkey and veggie broth, but most would use chicken and chicken broth in this.

Should be excellent for that cold!

Love it, thanks! Inspiring and I'm whipping up something like that right now to try. I shredded up 2/3 of a zucchini. I always like zucchini and eggs. I may use nutritional yeast instead of parmesan. I love the idea of the lemon, too!

[minimonkey]

Nitenurse -- I think part of my current stall is that I have been undereating, as well. I am trying to fix that with more protein. I never thought I'd say that on a 500/cal day plan, but there it is.

[minimonkey]

Dancer: good luck with the surgery consultation! I am sorry you need to have that done, but I hope you are happy with the results. Darned genetics!

You are quite a bit taller than I am... you must have a tiny build to be able to carry 105 at that height and not look emaciated.

[Somewhat Damaged]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Have a great day all. I am down to 154.4 today, virgin weight territory!! Quite pleased. Ate a bit higher yesterday, around 1000 calories, but feel like I'm in the "losing zone". A bit afraid to mess up this small window of losing this weekend, but torn. If I don't up my cals a bit will I stall out sooner? If I up them, will I gain and have to work twice as hard next week to get back here? Grr, wish I came with a handbook!! I'll likely decide and try to listen to my body. It's not usually right, so I may engage my mind too .

I'd ride that pony til it dies! lol Congrats on virgin territory, I love that feeling!

Originally Posted by j4Christ

Oh, and BTW, I am trying to follow Jon Gabriel's nutritional guidlines on my UP days. It's not too far off what I normally try to eat. Good protein (although I don't/can't buy organic), fresh vegies (also not organic), cooked vegies, little fruit, adding in the flax and Omega 3s, staying away from processed junk. I ask myself is this food live or dead? It puts a better picture in my head as to what I'm putting in my mouth. He doesn't really address wine, but I do enjoy wine on UP days.

This is a good reminder for me, thanks! I eat primarily unprocessed foods, but my last couple days adventure with the almond butter has shown me I just need to stay away from processed stuff altogether. And I think that means nut butters, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by paulabob

Yes, if almond butter is tempting you, sounds like a weekend off is a great idea. I definitely find the 500 calories easier knowing it's just a few days, and I can have lowcarb foods on the weekend.

Finally had good movement on scale. Down 1.6 this morning and had a nice .5 % drop in body fat too. So, overall 1.2 pounds lost from last Saturday (finally caught up with it!). That pulls my average loss up to .46, which is getting closer to normal. Phew!

Nice drop this morning... I love days like that!

Originally Posted by lostfox

Can't wait for this African Mango to come. I have the three clinical studies, don't think I can link to them though b/c they're on a site that maybe sells something, but this is good science around this stuff. Can't wait to be a part of the experiment on this one.

Very interested to hear how it goes with the african mango. I'll have to look up those studies... did you just google for them?


Well, I went wild on the almond butter *again* yesterday *palmface*. I got this Costco sized jar at... Costco a month ago and have really dipped into it this week. It was about half full when I hit it on Wednesday and it's been almost nonstop ever since. Luckily it's almost gone (I think? luckily... lol) I think I'm going to have to not buy almond butter anymore, at least until I've finished a full p3 after my last round without it. My body is just really craving fats. I know partly it's emotional (a little rough at home lately), but there's definitely a craving behind it too.

I had a pretty high calorie day yesterday, about 2200 calories, and was up .8 this morning. Not entirely surprised since i supposedly ate 50g of fiber. I'll see what the scale holds for me tomorrow.